Why are ppl pist off, because of a "legal" god mode
Nerf of Shadow Form ;
jbwarrior
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Why are ppl pist off, because of a "legal" god mode
Why are ppl pist off, because of a "legal" god mode
Stockholm
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Originally Posted by jbwarrior
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Because their "ecto studed e-peeeeeeeeeeens" ar shrinking
Bug John
to the op : sorry, but you fail on the whole line
first, perma sf isn't god mode, there are many areas where monsters can kill you and/or you can't outdamage them
perma sf is just another farming build, chaos plains farming can be done by at least half of the other professions
"it's wrong to use a character just for one skill" > are you sure we're playing the same guild wars ?
btw, if you're not jealous or anything, why do you care about that ?
first, perma sf isn't god mode, there are many areas where monsters can kill you and/or you can't outdamage them
perma sf is just another farming build, chaos plains farming can be done by at least half of the other professions
"it's wrong to use a character just for one skill" > are you sure we're playing the same guild wars ?
btw, if you're not jealous or anything, why do you care about that ?
HawkofStorms
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The current perma SF build is more overpowered then 55ing ever was. At least 55s could be beat by enchantment stripping, interupts, or heavy degen. Perma SF can only be beaten by the 4 skills that aren't spells that remove enchantments, and AoE damage (which can often be sidesteped or walked out of).
Yes, perma SFing is fun. Yes it is profitable. Is it good for the game? No.
The current perma SF build is more overpowered then 55ing ever was. At least 55s could be beat by enchantment stripping, interupts, or heavy degen. Perma SF can only be beaten by the 4 skills that aren't spells that remove enchantments, and AoE damage (which can often be sidesteped or walked out of).
Yes, perma SFing is fun. Yes it is profitable. Is it good for the game? No.
count_vidal
Its obious why gw wont nerf ursan or perma sf, the main skill, glyph of swiftness and ursan are both GW:EN, many people buy GW:EN for ursan and perma and we are on america were everithing revolves around getting money.
P.S. I love perma shadowing farmed 175 ectoes in 4 days, I personally enjoy having so much money I dont know what to do with it, its fun going to ascalon dis 1 and handing out money just telling people to do stuff.
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P.S. I love perma shadowing farmed 175 ectoes in 4 days, I personally enjoy having so much money I dont know what to do with it, its fun going to ascalon dis 1 and handing out money just telling people to do stuff.
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munky
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
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The current perma SF build is more overpowered then 55ing ever was. At least 55s could be beat by enchantment stripping, interupts, or heavy degen. Perma SF can only be beaten by the 4 skills that aren't spells that remove enchantments, and AoE damage (which can often be sidesteped or walked out of). Yes, perma SFing is fun. Yes it is profitable. Is it good for the game? No. |
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Age
SF does nothing agianst [shield of judgement]
Sypherious
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Originally Posted by phan
Hello ,
No this is not a QQ thread or a whine thread . Let's assume that Guildwars is devided in 2 parts : PvP & PvE [each 50/50] Why would Anet let 50% just enter godmode by pressing 3 skills . If people can't see that this isn't good for a game .. well then its time for glasses . Guildwars is a team game ; with 8 skills on your bar and 8 players in a team . not 3 skills for Godmode . Reactions I don't want to see ;
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IMO, shadow form is fine. So many people QQ'ing about it "NERF IT, WAHHHH I DUN LIKE THE NEW SF BUFF CUZ I CANT USE IT, EHEHEEHEHEHE ECONOMOY IS RUINED, NOOOOOO WAHHHHH".
Buy factions, make a sin and use it. You won't be QQ'ing then.
God damn, I'm so sick of it.
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Yawgmoth
imba skill is imba and must be nerfed, no matter if it's pve or pvp.
I see most stupid arguments in this thread too:
"If you don't like the skill don't use it"
LOL
because it's just absuridiculous to have that in game.
there are a ton of reasons for nerfing what's imba and not a single reasonable one against.
Yes, after reading 30+ pages of threads about nerfing SF I haven't seen ANY SINGLE good reason NOT to nerf SF. They were only full of qq crybabies who want more easy mode, more fast easy ectoz, who don't care that degenerate playstyles ruin the game, who only care about own easy profit.
/nerf
I see most stupid arguments in this thread too:
"If you don't like the skill don't use it"
LOL
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Originally Posted by jbwarrior
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there are a ton of reasons for nerfing what's imba and not a single reasonable one against.
Yes, after reading 30+ pages of threads about nerfing SF I haven't seen ANY SINGLE good reason NOT to nerf SF. They were only full of qq crybabies who want more easy mode, more fast easy ectoz, who don't care that degenerate playstyles ruin the game, who only care about own easy profit.
/nerf
BlackSephir
So much hypocrisy. "Nerf SF, but dun nerf mah farmin buildz". How about nerfing ALL farming builds?
Sypherious
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
They were only full of qq crybabies
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Most people who want SF nerfed don't have factions, and are jealous of other people using it.
Use it, then report back here, and tell us your opinion.
DarkGanni
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
So much hypocrisy. "Nerf SF, but dun nerf mah farmin buildz". How about nerfing ALL farming builds?
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Also to the OP: How is this affecting your gameplay? Stop trying to ruin other people's fun, if you don't like SF simply don't play it. And Besides, SF isn't the only farm build around.
it's not harming anyone, except those high end traders with rare weapons. But after all ectoplasm was never meant to be a currency, players made it that way.
I like SF personally, I do UW only when I need some quick cash to buy something and I see nothing wrong with that.
- Ganni
Yawgmoth
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Originally Posted by Sypherious
Hey there, why don't you try using Shadow Form instead of judging it without trying it. Because that's what it really sounds like.
Most people who want SF nerfed don't have factions, and are jealous of other people using it. Use it, then report back here, and tell us your opinion. |
I used it A LOT before the buff, it was a very very powerful and useful skill before the buff, for a lot of tasks. I did my Legendary Cartographer almost entirely on a SF based running build, I ran 6k chests for Treasure Hunter on a SF running build, I farmed a lot of bosses, other specific farms and thousands of raptors, made big money on using this skill, all that before the buff, without the need of infinite maintaining it.
And I DO keep using it now, the imba way! The profits are just crazy, far better than anything in the last year+.
And I easily see that what's going on is just wrong, degenerate, bad for the game.
And I demand a nerf:
Bring it back to old duration and add a "This skill is disabled for 60 seconds", and it will still be an EXCELLENT SKILL for a lot of uses. Just not absuridiculous infinite imba.
And there are more skills that should be looked at and nerfed, not only this. There should be a fine line at what is accepted for solo farming, as solofarming should remain a viable playstyle, but it should require skill and it's effectiveness should be somewhat limited.
Sypherious
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
But i DO use it.
I used it A LOT before the buff, it was a very very powerful and useful skill before the buff, for a lot of tasks. I did my Legendary Cartographer almost entirely on a SF based running build, I ran 6k chests for Treasure Hunter on a SF running build, I farmed a lot of bosses, other specific farms and thousands of raptors, made big money on using this skill, all that before the buff, without the need of infinite maintaining it. And I DO keep using it now, the imba way! The profits are just crazy, far better than anything in the last year+. And I easily see that what's going on is just wrong, degenerate, bad for the game. And I demand a nerf: Bring it back to old duration and add a "This skill is disabled for 60 seconds", and it will still be an EXCELLENT SKILL for a lot of uses. Just not absuridiculous infinite imba. And there are more skills that should be looked at and nerfed, not only this. There should be a fine line at what is accepted for solo farming, as solofarming should remain a viable playstyle, but it should require skill and it's effectiveness should be somewhat limited. |
Yawgmoth
I make no sense in that I see issues much more important than my own profit?
That I actually care about the game as a whole?
I'd rather be poor and play a great balanced game than filthy rich in a bad degenerate game.
That I actually care about the game as a whole?
I'd rather be poor and play a great balanced game than filthy rich in a bad degenerate game.
Alex the Great
i'd be fine if they nerfed all farm, because i'm to lazy to farm for money.
but that's selfish, why would I want to take something away from someone that dosn't affect me?
buddy, THIS DOSN'T AFFECT YOU, OR ME, OR ANYONE ELSE WHO "Isn't jealous".
but that's selfish, why would I want to take something away from someone that dosn't affect me?
buddy, THIS DOSN'T AFFECT YOU, OR ME, OR ANYONE ELSE WHO "Isn't jealous".
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by Sypherious
Buy factions, make a sin and use it. You won't be QQ'ing then.
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BLOODGOAT
Everyone needs to stop shedding so many god damn tears. No one cares if you BAWWWWWW because we use a different godmode to farm as a sin comparative to a monk. Don't virtually all farm builds revolve around the concept of a godmode set of 3 or 4 skills, backed up by 4 or 5 attack skills to destroy what you are attempting to farm? If you want a nerf to SF on the basis that it is a team game, you might as well petition for a nerf to every single solo farming build ever created and still viably used.
pce~ez 55 builds
pce~ez SF builds
pce~ez VwK builds
pce~ez Terra builds
pce~ez farming
And as unrelated as this is, phan, can you please learn typography? I don't like seeing a space before and after every grammatical character in every post you make. In fact, it makes my eyes want to bleed and makes me RAGE when I read anything you have to say. Then again, you may just be a troll. If so, 10/10.
Nevertheless,
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As cliche of a response as it is, no one is forcing you to solo play so stop trying to ruin it for the people who want to. Its not my fault if everyone else sucks and makes 8-man FoW clears an abysmal experience at best. I bet anyone /signing for this is also the kind of person who /unsigned for 7-hero teams, or support the idea of abolishing the hero/henchmen system completely. But that's just an assumption. Who knows, I still might be right.
pce~ez 55 builds
pce~ez SF builds
pce~ez VwK builds
pce~ez Terra builds
pce~ez farming
And as unrelated as this is, phan, can you please learn typography? I don't like seeing a space before and after every grammatical character in every post you make. In fact, it makes my eyes want to bleed and makes me RAGE when I read anything you have to say. Then again, you may just be a troll. If so, 10/10.
Nevertheless,
/unsigned
As cliche of a response as it is, no one is forcing you to solo play so stop trying to ruin it for the people who want to. Its not my fault if everyone else sucks and makes 8-man FoW clears an abysmal experience at best. I bet anyone /signing for this is also the kind of person who /unsigned for 7-hero teams, or support the idea of abolishing the hero/henchmen system completely. But that's just an assumption. Who knows, I still might be right.
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by Sypherious
Hey there, why don't you try using Shadow Form instead of judging it without trying it. Because that's what it really sounds like.
Most people who want SF nerfed don't have factions, and are jealous of other people using it. Use it, then report back here, and tell us your opinion. |
And *gasp* I still think perma-SF is overpowered.
Insulting people as "jealous" or "qqers" or "cry babies" instead of actually addressing the points in the arguement is the worst form of logistical arguement. Ad homenum attacks are the lowest common denominator. Please don't sink that low.
Patsrule711
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Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
I do not know why you play or what you enjoy, but I enjoy playing warrior, buying him items and armour and capping elites.
I use my Sin to farm to earn money to buy things for my warrior, simple as. If Shadow Form was nerfed then it would be harder to earn the amount of money to buy what I want, but it would still be possible it would just take longer. If I had to spend ages and ages farming for the things I want I would, but tbh I am already bored with GW.. To be honest I don't care what you think, I love Shadow Form as it is. How does it actually affect you? ~A Leprechaun~ |
A Leprechaun
Ok all the people QQing about SF and saying it needs a nerf please each give me at least one way in which it, in its current form, is have a negative affect on you.
e.g. "My wife stabs me every time an ecto drops."
Seriously, how does it affect you?
~A Leprechaun~
e.g. "My wife stabs me every time an ecto drops."
Seriously, how does it affect you?
~A Leprechaun~
Sypherious
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
I make no sense in that I see issues much more important than my own profit?
That I actually care about the game as a whole? I'd rather be poor and play a great balanced game than filthy rich in a bad degenerate game. |
Yawgmoth
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Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
Ok all the people QQing about SF and saying it needs a nerf please each give me at least one way in which it, in its current form, is have a negative affect on you.
e.g. "My wife stabs me every time an ecto drops." Seriously, how does it affect you? ~A Leprechaun~ |
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Originally Posted by Sypherious
Well, if that's the case, why don't you just stop playing altogether. Instead of QQ'ing before doing so.
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Stockholm
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
I just want to save it from turning into complete degenerate crap, so I can keep playing it.
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Tyla
Anet don't know what's good for the game either because they don't care.
Why else would they impliment a skill that completely goes against it's original design, and why else would they let PvE be a cakewalk because of carebears who can't complete the first mission?
Why else would they impliment a skill that completely goes against it's original design, and why else would they let PvE be a cakewalk because of carebears who can't complete the first mission?
Squishy ftw
You can nerf SF as soon as someone shoots the bear.
Until then, leave it alone.
Until then, leave it alone.
guevera verreuil
guru admins need to ban people who begin topics like this about whatever skill. all of the QQing makes guru not even worth coming to anymore. do you honestly think that anet doesn't know what shadow form is and how people can use it in game? gw2 is coming out soon (soon, loosely). do you think they maybe did this to encourage people to buy fow armor or other things that they could use the money for, because they need help filling up their hall of monuments? i dunno...to unlock whatever the hell it is it unlocks in gw2.
quit the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing bitching.
if this has any resemblance to some sort of petition, which it does not: /UNRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOINGSIGNED
quit the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing bitching.
if this has any resemblance to some sort of petition, which it does not: /UNRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOINGSIGNED
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by Stockholm
Perhaps your view of the game differs from the other players, and I still have to see an official announcment from A-Net/NC-Soft that states that your view is whats best for GW.
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The whole system should be reverted back to release date, because that was the closest we probably ever were to balance.
Stockholm
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Originally Posted by Kanyatta
Well, anyone with half a brain would realize that having half the player base using Ursan PvE, and the other half doing SF PvE is bad for the game. I'd rather have a halfway balanced game than one full of abuses and overpowered skills that is basically like pressing a Get Mega-Rich Right Now button.
The whole system should be reverted back to release date, because that was the closest we probably ever were to balance. |
But you know thats not happening any more than Ursan or SF getting nerfed, so enjoy GW for what it is or take a break, try real life.
Lest121
You guys want SF Nerf then it's only fair that every Class Gets Nerf......Nerf all farming builds across all classes, I say it's a fair trade because Assassin is my favorite class, so if my class gets Nerf why not Nerf yours too, this way the entire game can be one Giant Nerf Ball.
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by underverse_ninja
You guys want SF Nerf then it's only fair that every Class Gets Nerf......Nerf all farming builds across all classes, I say it's a fair trade because Assassin is my favorite class, so if my class gets Nerf why not Nerf yours too, this way the entire game can be one Giant Nerf Ball.
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Just because your favorite class is incredibly overpowered doesn't mean everyone else's should suck monkey f*ck.
Tyla
OH MY GOD THEY NERFED MY FARMING BUILD NOW NERF OTHER CRAP
Carebears are awesome.
Carebears are awesome.
Golgotha
Yes, I definitely see them nerfing a skill less than a month after it's buff. Anet knew what would occur especially since it happened before. The recent buff to Mystic Regeneration more than shows that there will be a lot more farming friendly buffs in the future. Get used to it.
Lest121
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OH MY GOD THEY NERFED MY FARMING BUILD NOW NERF OTHER CRAP
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Maccarelly
Orrrrrr make everything else better, so SF and ursan looks %$*% in comparison.
Lalamika
You know what should be nerfed? QQ'ing on Guru. I swear it's pathetic, everytime something gets nerfed, more people cry about it. Just shut up and play the game, oblivously anet cares enough to do these things to the game. If they didn't then we wouldn't have events, we wouldn't have anything. For god sakes, I'm so tired of these QQ topics on Guru. I'd try to read something else, but all the "crying" topics get in the way. Just enjoy the damn game people. For god sakes.
P.S. anyone wanna sell me a sup rune for SA >.>
P.S. anyone wanna sell me a sup rune for SA >.>
Kinn
I'm utterly confused as to what people want now. Before loot scaling, farmers made a shitload of money. Everyone seemed more or less happy; the world still turned etc. Then anet introduced loot scaling and nerfed farming across the board, in a massive way. 95% of the population of this forum pissed and moaned at loot scaling.
Now, a skill has been buffed that has given farming a bit of a shot in the arm. About bloody time. But has it made farming as profitable as it was before loot scaling? I doubt it.
Now, a skill has been buffed that has given farming a bit of a shot in the arm. About bloody time. But has it made farming as profitable as it was before loot scaling? I doubt it.
Turtle222
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I'm utterly confused as to what people want now. Before loot scaling, farmers made a shitload of money. Everyone seemed more or less happy; the world still turned etc. Then anet introduced loot scaling and nerfed farming across the board, in a massive way. 95% of the population of this forum pissed and moaned at loot scaling.
Now, a skill has been buffed that has given farming a bit of a shot in the arm. About bloody time. But has it made farming as profitable as it was before loot scaling? I doubt it. |
Arkantos
PvE hit the bottom of the hill a long time ago, and nerfing shadow form won't make it climb up again.
PvE has been given to the bad players and the whiners, so ANet can continue working on GW2. Everyone should do themselves a favor and stop trying to make PvE better, because ANet don't care anymore.
Of course, this is just an opinion from an "elitist asshole" ex-GW player.
PvE has been given to the bad players and the whiners, so ANet can continue working on GW2. Everyone should do themselves a favor and stop trying to make PvE better, because ANet don't care anymore.
Of course, this is just an opinion from an "elitist asshole" ex-GW player.
Golgotha
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Of course, this is just an opinion from an "elitist asshole" ex-GW player.
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So any player that enjoys GW is either a bad player or a whiner? Seems half of Guru should be in heaven then as a lot fit in the latter.