Nerf of Shadow Form ;

HawkofStorms

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16 Jun 2008 at 03:29 - 121
Quote:
Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
Ok all the people QQing about SF and saying it needs a nerf please each give me at least one way in which it, in its current form, is have a negative affect on you.

e.g. "My wife stabs me every time an ecto drops."

Seriously, how does it affect you?

~A Leprechaun~
It creates inflation by increasing the supply of ectos in the market which in turn makes prices of everything rise as well as further raises the gap between the rich and the poor, ruining the economy over the long term.

That's how it affects me.

Petition suggestion.... A.net please hire an economist to design and balance the game's economy for GW2. If Eve Online could do it, so can you.

Kinn

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16 Jun 2008 at 11:58 - 122
I'm still convinced that the only people that want to nerf this skill are the long-term farmers who have hoarded ectos from these farms, and now they feel threatened that more people can cash in on their old farming spots.

I cannot imagine how anyone who is interested in playing normal PvE (i.e. not farming 24/7) would give a shit, or be affected by the fact that SF has now been buffed.

I'll mention it again - before loot scaling, farming could be massively, massively more profitable than it is now, and yet everyone speaks of those days as "the good old days".

xmancho1

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16 Jun 2008 at 12:04 - 123
This is a QQ .... when u cant handle it , just create an assasin yourself ...

Kanyatta

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16 Jun 2008 at 16:25 - 124
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinn
I'll mention it again - before loot scaling, farming could be massively, massively more profitable than it is now, and yet everyone speaks of those days as "the good old days".
Yes, those were "the good old days" because there was no Ursan and half of the skills used in the SF farm were not invented yet. Back in "the good old days" there was more balance.

@xmancho1: The reason people want it nerfed is not because they think its too hard or they can't use it, it is because the economy is being destroyed. I'd like to see you use the excuse if you're picked up for robbing a 7-11 and you say "Well, if you don't like it, just don't do it, just leave me alone."

Thizzle

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16 Jun 2008 at 16:45 - 125
How are people supposed to milk the ecto supply?

/notsigned.

A Leprechaun

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16 Jun 2008 at 17:00 - 126
Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
It creates inflation by increasing the supply of ectos in the market which in turn makes prices of everything rise as well as further raises the gap between the rich and the poor, ruining the economy over the long term.

That's how it affects me.

Petition suggestion.... A.net please hire an economist to design and balance the game's economy for GW2. If Eve Online could do it, so can you.
How is it making a bigger gap between rich and poor? Ecto price is (supposedly) dropping so rich people with huge stockpiles of ecto are not as rich as they were. Ecto is now available to the casual or just plain bad players and not just the already rich "pros".

It is actually making the poor richer by giving them an easy income and making the rich poorer by dropping the price of the things they make money from (ecto). I think thats a good thing.

~A Leprechaun~

*edit* Anyone who has used Ursan and is complaining about SF should gtfo.

phan

phan

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16 Jun 2008 at 17:03 - 127
Quote:
Originally Posted by xmancho1
This is a QQ .... when u cant handle it , just create an assasin yourself ...

Wow ; congrats .. you just made it to the title "Complete Retard"

Ferret Deathsquad

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16 Jun 2008 at 18:29 - 128
Ok I got the solution to everyone's Problem, Go back to April 1 and make everyone a stick figure, Then NERF EVERY SKILL. Then we will all be on the same playing field and look alike so no one will QQ that someone else has something they don't.

HawkofStorms

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16 Jun 2008 at 18:40 - 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
How is it making a bigger gap between rich and poor? Ecto price is (supposedly) dropping so rich people with huge stockpiles of ecto are not as rich as they were. Ecto is now available to the casual or just plain bad players and not just the already rich "pros".

It is actually making the poor richer by giving them an easy income and making the rich poorer by dropping the price of the things they make money from (ecto). I think thats a good thing.

~A Leprechaun~

*edit* Anyone who has used Ursan and is complaining about SF should gtfo.
Because the people who don't use the SF farming build are being left in the dust. I'm reading some comments from people saying they have earned over 100 ectos a day from this farm. The poor... ie, the average person who doesn't farm 24/7, is getting left behind.

And yes, the value of ectos is going down, but that means the price of EVERYTHING else goes up. Stuff that used to cost 100k+20e will start to creep up in price since ectos aren't as valuable, putting stuff further out of reach of the average player.

Also, note, I'm not rich. I, like Malice, basically started over again. I have less then 300k total in ectos and gold on my account.

Age

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16 Jun 2008 at 22:49 - 130
No.I beleive in nerfing the AI so that every profession can solo the UW nerf rend enchant.

HawkofStorms

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17 Jun 2008 at 01:42 - 131
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10299553


To those who don't believe me... people are noticing the overfarming

Hailey Anne

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17 Jun 2008 at 06:32 - 132
You guys do realize that WE control the prices of ecto right?
Its not the A/E farmers dropping the prices its the people who keep panicing like alot of people here and go and sell the Ectos to trader dropping the price.
Although the price hasnt gone down.
Its still going up and down between 4800 and 5500 like it has for a LONG time.
People just need to quit panicing and quit whining about SF.

DarkGanni

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17 Jun 2008 at 06:37 - 133
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
You guys do realize that WE control the prices of ecto right?
Its not the A/E farmers dropping the prices its the people who keep panicing like alot of people here and go and sell the Ectos to trader dropping the price.
Although the price hasnt gone down.
Its still going up and down between 4800 and 5500 like it has for a LONG time.
People just need to quit panicing and quit whining about SF.
Amen to that ^^

Mad King Corn

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17 Jun 2008 at 06:54 - 134
I will never understand the logic of people. Some of us really enjoy the pve skills, in fact some us us need them, I am handicapped and some of these skills make things a bit easier for me. Please stop trying to take away our enjoyment of guildwars. It is real easy, just equipt the skills you want to use to enjoy guildwars, and I will equipt mine. I could care less what skills you use and would never attempt to condemn you for using skills of your choice, so please do not condemn those of us that appreciate and use our skills.
The community begged Anet for decent skills in PVE as well as PVE/PVP separation, Anet finally gave us those and I am very appreciative of that. It was the best change thay have made to the game. Once again, Anet gave us what we asked for, half of us are happy, and now the other half don't like it, sorry folks, Anet is doing the best they can. Simply stop using the skills you find offensive, there are many skills I hate, and guess what?, I don't use them....Simple really!

Abedeus

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17 Jun 2008 at 07:10 - 135
Mad King - there are so many bugs, dupe methods and botters. I find them offensive, and guess what, I don't use them. Other people ruin their fun by using them, don't like, don't use.

undead living

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17 Jun 2008 at 08:42 - 136
i would say not signed but becuse of them constantly farming chaos planes makes ecto rates go down and pretty soon z keys will be the new from of high end cash payment,

Dograzor

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17 Jun 2008 at 08:45 - 137
/unsigned

I think its a good move from Anet to buff shadow form... Because now the ecto market isnt controlled by the few players who have stacks of ecto's, and keep regular players poor...

I've been playing GW for three years, and ive always seen rich players getting more rich and regular players staying poor...

And it is quite over exaggerated, ive been farming UW for 2 days in a row, and have had 50 ecto drops... so no 100 drops a day lol...

I make 2-3 ecto one run and 5-6 the other run, and lucky runs 7-8 ecto... each run takes ~40-45 minutes, so hey, we spend time farming, its not like we have ecto's raining from heaven!

Ecto prices have not gone down trough the bottom, ive seen it jumping between 4.8-5.5k, 5k avarage.... And i know that most people would not want to flood the ecto market, most people i know and myself are saving ecto's for obsi armor or gloves. So, incase you're still happy whining about SF and ecto's crashing down, either accept it or change your currency to kk + armbraces for trading, armbraces dont depend on ecto supplies... use an alternative currency...

For now, thanks Anet for buffing SF, you finally give regular players a chance!

Angelina Collins

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17 Jun 2008 at 08:50 - 138
GW economy is a perfect example of the world economy today, supply and demand pricing, ectos is like oil for the most part, even if you are to increase production, thus supply, then demand goes up even more and the price rarely moves, it may go up or down by a couple of pionts, but mostly goes up, then when production stops or supplies slows, the price jumps, because the demand stays the same.

Increasing the supply of ectos is not going to change the price, only the demand for them will. Most ectos are used for crafting anyway, the rest are traded to increase an items price.

Nerfing SF is not going to change anything, Nerfing ursans will not change anything other then to drive more people away from the game, then with less people to trade with, the price will just drop natrually. You should be thankful for these skills being in place, they keep you rich.

For all those who do not understand this, my answer is that either you are just to danm greedy, to young to understand, to ignorant, or just to stupid to care. It's a shame too, but understand this, if you were to have it your way, you would be a lone, because most would just move on to another game.

Anet's two biggest mistakes

originally making PvP/PvE together and effecting each other with more focus on PvP

Putting a storage cap on gold

Paul thy god

Paul thy god

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Join Date: Jul 2007

N/Rt

17 Jun 2008 at 09:02 - 139
Quote:
Originally Posted by phan
Why would Anet let 50% just enter godmode by pressing 3 skills .

I don't have them , don't need them and i just played some PvE for fun (I heard PvP was serz bus).I think it's an achievement if I come home ; have 2 hours of spare time and i don't really feel like doing anything , i can load up 6 heroes and try and clear FoW . These new skills just ruined that =)
[/LIST]
Firstly [Ursan Blessing] 1 skill, capable of Team Fow/UW clears.

Secondly [Save Yourselves] And [Dragon Slash]
Again another godmode build

Thirdly NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO USE PERMA SHADOW FORM.

Fourth It is still impossible to clear UW/FoW with perma shadow form alone.

and finally it will still be possible to do Chaos plains clears with [Glyph of Swiftness] and [Obsidian Flesh]
EDIT: I CALL HAX ON THE 6 HEROES

Onyx Blindbow

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17 Jun 2008 at 11:28 - 140
hmm, can we not just have it so we can cast SF once and it stays in place like a bond, this would save me having to recast the SF chain & allow me more fire skills to kill quicker

{>.<}

(obviously this is sarcastic but I am just a little tired of all the QQ threads so thought I would add some levity and start the whiners whining more )

Artisan Archer

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17 Jun 2008 at 12:02 - 141
So, ecto's are cheaper. It has happenend before and it will happen again.

If you bought alot of ecto's: You knew the price wasn't fixed, it can go down, it can go up, no-one guaranteed a fixed price for ecto's.

Alright so smth happenend to make the price go down, USE YOUR BRAIN, sell your ecto's buy smth else or just store it for the time being (unless you are so rich it doesn't fit in your xunlai account, in which case I'd say: buy smth pretty.)

Radeus

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TeG

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17 Jun 2008 at 12:56 - 142
Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Because the people who don't use the SF farming build are being left in the dust. I'm reading some comments from people saying they have earned over 100 ectos a day from this farm. The poor... ie, the average person who doesn't farm 24/7, is getting left behind.

And yes, the value of ectos is going down, but that means the price of EVERYTHING else goes up. Stuff that used to cost 100k+20e will start to creep up in price since ectos aren't as valuable, putting stuff further out of reach of the average player.

Also, note, I'm not rich. I, like Malice, basically started over again. I have less then 300k total in ectos and gold on my account.
Ridiculous.

You speak of the 'poor/average person'. Well speaking as 'the poor/average person', the 'poor/average person' isn't going to be purchasing abundant amounts of items worth 100k+xxe whether it be prior or during this SF farming craze. And if you are purchasing these items, you can hardly be called the 'poor/average person' now, can you.

What this farming is doing however, is creating a positive change.

Formerly 'high end' items with fixed ecto requirements such as FoW armour and Chaos Gloves are now being more accessible to the average player due to the decrease in ecto prices. Even if you're not SF farming, the gold you have will be able to purchase a greater amount of ecto, thus enabling you to reach these goals more quickly.

I don't see anything wrong with the above. I welcome it.

In light of GW2, and movement of people from GW1 to GW2, gold at the moment has no real benefit other than skills, runes and to complete your hall of monuments with armour and weapons. Other than the few 'still exclusive' minipets that are past the 100k mark, the prices of these items will not change with fluctuating ecto price.

I personally believe that the bulk of people whining are those that will lose from this drop in ecto prices. ie, those that have an ecto hoard are seeing their 'stock' depreciate and are panicking and urging for the nerf.

To these people: Get over it. GW2 is on its way and apart from filling your halls with trinkets, your gold will be of no use when the majority of players move on. In addition, the bulk of people farming ecto at the moment will most probably not be selling it at the current 'low' prices, but will be using it for FoW armour/Chaos Gloves as mentioned above.

SF doesn't need a nerf.

How is this affecting me? Well.. this previously 'poor/average person' will be purchasing a set of FoW armour soon.

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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17 Jun 2008 at 13:04 - 143
Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Because the people who don't use the SF farming build are being left in the dust. I'm reading some comments from people saying they have earned over 100 ectos a day from this farm. The poor... ie, the average person who doesn't farm 24/7, is getting left behind.

And yes, the value of ectos is going down, but that means the price of EVERYTHING else goes up. Stuff that used to cost 100k+20e will start to creep up in price since ectos aren't as valuable, putting stuff further out of reach of the average player.

Also, note, I'm not rich. I, like Malice, basically started over again. I have less then 300k total in ectos and gold on my account.
That's a comment that has been around since day 1.

I never bothered to create a 55HP monk because I liked my ranger more. Thus I got left behind in the dust when those damn 55HP farmed Grifons 24/7.

I never bothered to trap in the UW, because I didn't care about ecto's.
Damn, got left behind again.

Should they give me ecto's for free? No, when people decide to farm stuff, they dedicate time to it. Time that I spend in a different way and it gets rewarded in a different way.

The biggest reward GW can give me is: Having a good time.


Screen: And boy did I have fun during the last 34 months. Without much farming.

I'm not rich, I got 50K in storage and a few ectó's which I farmed with a perma-SF assassin which was a mule for 23 months and had a freaking sup. shadow form rune for whatever reason I can't remember.

TheRaven

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17 Jun 2008 at 14:40 - 144
You don't even need to roll a SF Sin to make money with this build. I just sold 2 Sup Shadow Arts runes for 15k a pop last night. Took about 2 minutes of advertising in Kamadan to sell them too.

Targren

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17 Jun 2008 at 14:50 - 145
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRaven
You don't even need to roll a SF Sin to make money with this build. I just sold 2 Sup Shadow Arts runes for 15k a pop last night. Took about 2 minutes of advertising in Kamadan to sell them too.
Only 2 minutes?

Then you sold too low. My price just went to 20.

RotteN

RotteN

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17 Jun 2008 at 14:59 - 146
these threads are pure comedy seriously.

Why would anyone complain prices are dropping ? I mean, the only ones that should complain about that are the sellers (being the SF sins), but instead everyone is yelling OMG ECTO PRICES DROP NERF SF !

As far as i remember from the heap of economics they attempted to shove into my brain during my 5 years of university, more supply = better. It results in fair prices, low costs, and overall a better market for the consumer.

So stop complaining already.

Golgotha

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17 Jun 2008 at 16:10 - 147
I sold ecto for 4.8k three weeks ago and sold over 40 ecto yesterday for 4.5k each. I don't think the economy is going anywhere. All we'll see are more FoW armors and chaos gloves. Anyone think this is to allow more players the chance at FoW armor before GW2 rolls around?

Yawgmoth

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17 Jun 2008 at 16:18 - 148
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul thy god
NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO USE PERMA SHADOW FORM.
This is single most retarded 'argument' i keep seeing everywhere in all threads about overpowered skills.
And I keep hearing crap like this every time there's a balance issue and some crybabies want to keep their easy mode.

If Anet carelessly added some more overpowered stupidity to the game, like a Shadow Form effect in a Consumable or did a 'subtle' buff of Protective Bond removing the energy loss entirely, or did something else that would throw any remnants of balance out of the window, there would still be dumb masses saying "Nobody forces you to use that"...

Golgotha

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17 Jun 2008 at 17:09 - 149
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
This is single most retarded 'argument' i keep seeing everywhere in all threads about overpowered skills.
And I keep hearing crap like this every time there's a balance issue and some crybabies want to keep their easy mode.

If Anet carelessly added some more overpowered stupidity to the game, like a Shadow Form effect in a Consumable or did a 'subtle' buff of Protective Bond removing the energy loss entirely, or did something else that would throw any remnants of balance out of the window, there would still be dumb masses saying "Nobody forces you to use that"...
Well, no one is. The difference between these buffs and others is that these are primarily effecting farming rather than general PvE. No one is forcing you to farm either.

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

17 Jun 2008 at 18:51 - 150
Quote:
Originally Posted by undead living
i would say not signed but becuse of them constantly farming chaos planes makes ecto rates go down and pretty soon z keys will be the new from of high end cash payment,
AGAIN I say its NOT the farming of Chaos Plains that will make the prices drop.
WE control the prices if people would just stay away from the merchant except to buy and only sell to players the prices would never drop.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
crybabies want to keep their easy mode.
The "crybabies" are the ones on here bitching and moaning about ecto prices dropping because of SF when theyre not even dropping.
The ecto prices are still very steady t 4.8-5.5 like they have been for a LONG time.
That and its not even the farming that drops the prices.
Its the people who panic and sell all there ecto to trader that do it.

Snow Bunny

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17 Jun 2008 at 19:03 - 151
For the sole reason that Perma-SF is increasing the buying power of GW players, I'm going to /unsign this.



The economy is up; people can buy more, sell easily.

Sure, this is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing game balance, but at this point, you need to nerf Ursan before you nerf this.

zamial

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17 Jun 2008 at 20:46 - 152
[QUOTE=Snow Bunny]... at this point, you need to nerf Ursan before you nerf this.[QUOTE]

QFT

Why do people start treads like this?

55 monk has not been nerfed.
105 builds have not been nerfed.

RotteN

RotteN

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

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17 Jun 2008 at 21:22 - 153
Quote:
Originally Posted by zamial
55 monk has not been nerfed.
105 builds have not been nerfed.
55 builds have been nerfed (protective bond). The thing is, protective spirit cannot be "nerfed" to destroy 55 builds, because it would destroy the purpose of the skill itself. And since it's one of the most important prot skills, that won't happen.

That being said, seriously, stop QQing already, and go farm some ecto's :P

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

17 Jun 2008 at 21:30 - 154
Quote:

QFT

Why do people start treads like this?

55 monk has not been nerfed.
105 builds have not been nerfed.
They start threads like this because they have a stack of ecto that they are afraid will lose value(which it wont if people leave the merchent alone).
Its basically I dont want others to have what I have. So in other words theyre 10 years old and havent been taught about sharing.

TGgold

TGgold

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17 Jun 2008 at 21:31 - 155
In my opinion, permaSF is a solo build. What people do to play solo with, I can care less about.

If you want to coordinate a team using standard team skills and whatnot, then do that. Nobody is forcing you to play SF.

Lastly, the game's been out 3 years. It's in a stretch now where people are simply left to grind out things until GW2 comes out...I'm glad I can do it faster now.

Master Sword Keeper

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17 Jun 2008 at 22:51 - 156
So lets see. Ol matey wants to nerf shadowform, ruin the game yet again and make enemies with a lot of hardcore farmers...

Godmode? What do you play? Commander Keen? Mate there is no such thing as godmode in Gw's.

SF can still be killed with Signets,traps,touch skill, PbAoe and degen (from traps)

There is no such thing as Godmode. Godmode..Hmm well there is Ursan but you need a monk for that. Just face it. Dont like it, Dont use it.

Hmm.. Oh well. Tough. IF you cant be bothered making a sin and farmin Uw.

GO make a monk and farm CoF. Nuff sed. Stop ruining it for everyone else. No one cares.
/notsigned

Kanyatta

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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R/Mo

17 Jun 2008 at 23:29 - 157
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
some crybabies want to keep their easy mode.
Sums up basically everything that's been said thus far. The only downside I can see to nerfing perma-SF is the 10,000 threads that will arrive "ZOMG! EYE CANT ABUSE CHAOS PLANEZ ANEEMOAR!?!??!!!!"

Because of the whole farming craze, the average player who would like to just play the game the way it was meant to is now near forced to do SF/Ursan farming to try to keep up with the people who already have 2 stacks of ecto. Because of SF/Ursan, the quality of the game has plummeted.

Stockholm

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17 Jun 2008 at 23:41 - 158
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
Because of the whole farming craze, the average player who would like to just play the game the way it was meant to is now near forced to do SF/Ursan farming to try to keep up with the people who already have 2 stacks of ecto. Because of SF/Ursan, the quality of the game has plummeted.
That's a lot of BS, you don't need too keep up with anyone. The average/casual player gets along fine without ectos.
Exception are those that are failures in Real life and are trying to make up for it in a virtual reality.

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

17 Jun 2008 at 23:45 - 159
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
Sums up basically everything that's been said thus far. The only downside I can see to nerfing perma-SF is the 10,000 threads that will arrive "ZOMG! EYE CANT ABUSE CHAOS PLANEZ ANEEMOAR!?!??!!!!"
lol if they DID nerf SF I'll just go on my ele and solo the chaos plains.
A/E is not the only ones that can solo UW.
There have been many solo builds before SF buff and there will be many if its nerfed.
So if they nef SF then they will need to nerf all farm builds.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
Because of the whole farming craze, the average player who would like to just play the game the way it was meant to is now near forced to do SF/Ursan farming to try to keep up with the people who already have 2 stacks of ecto. Because of SF/Ursan, the quality of the game has plummeted.
The game isnt meant for farming ectos thats optional so no one is forced to do anything.
Its their CHOICE to farm ecto or not.
If people want to play the game as its meant to then they will.

Stephen John

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17 Jun 2008 at 23:46 - 160
i have to /unsign the nerf. i was usually always poor never being able to afford anything but i was having fun. now with the perma sf it made farming real easy and worth it. now i am able to still play and have fun but if i want something now i can actually go and farm for it. So what if ecto prices are down? anyone remeber the drop from 10k-5k? that was a big hit to everyone but everyone got over it. so really just deal with it.