Has anyone ever made you CRY on guildwars.......?

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

no
it's still a game
and if i read the post of the OP i really go wtf
if you turn into a bastard cuz of a game seriously you're mentally insane

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Nope. never cried.

Etta

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

Real men don't cry, we stand in the rain.

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Agree with Etta. The only pain we understand is physical pain, which we will endure.

RiKio

RiKio

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Plato's Cave

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Borat X
My friend and I have been in the same guild for two years now. I met her while pve'ing in Factions. As the weeks go by….we have grown accustomed to our guildies…..our officer…. our leader…and have become close friends…. I believe we all shared an understanding, and also shared many fond moments of joy together….sigh…

So....we decided to start PvP'ing as a guild 3 months ago....it came to a point where one of our guildie that we have known for 2 years…..started blaming my friend for making the team lose....I dont know why....but PvP has literally made him into a monster.....he started yelling on vent....and screaming that she is bad …this made her cry on ventrillo and she left the guild….

It feels like something is missing in our guild now….my question is if this is normal in the PvP world…where pvp has made one of your nicest guildie turn to PvP monster?
Your guildie has a RL problem, he is tired of smeling emotes´ asses and he wants to be elitist.

Conclusion: An overprotected teenager.

payne

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

R/

I've cryed from laughing so hard but thats been it...nah I don't actually really ever cry so I doubt some 12yr old is gonna achieve that on vent :P

Esan

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

Crying is far too extreme a reaction to anything on a mindless hack and slash video game like GW, but I do remember being pretty moved when I first saw the Searing. To this day it is the most dramatic event in GW, and its presentation was almost perfect.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

Never,
I Would Say that PvP doesnt really make people into monsters it just brings out some competition, some are competition freaks, and hate losing, this is jsut one of those cases.

Bet he's the exact same with bowling etc.

on topic:
anyway, nope never

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

The OP has actually really shocked me. I genuinly can't see why anyone (the shouter or the cryer) would get that emotionally involved in Guild Wars, or any other game, it really doesn't click in my head why it happens.

~A Leprechaun~

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

The only thing that made me cry was laughing to hard at what someone said in guild chat to the guild leader who was being a douche. Lets just say no one is in the guild any more.

shadez

shadez

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

OZ

Rt/

Have to say that no matter how unattached to ppl one may try to behave ~ ppl do form attatchments to other gamers. I find myself laughing through the tears.... yes ppl can be hartless @$$3$. Even when u have known ppl 2-3yrs. in game. Along comes a new allie they rage on vent ~ ppl become uncomfotable but yet like u say no one stands up to the douche bag and the guild falls apart so much for "close knit friends'.
So yah internet friends have made me cry ~ but im no angel I made em cry too. ( Paybacks a b!7ch, especially when u are one)..... at least thats what im told I have become.

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

You know what I get sick of hearing in conversations like this?

I'll tell you. (Like you thought I wouldn't.)

I get sick of hearing, "It's only a game."

Yes, the GAME is only a game, but the PEOPLE are actually people.

If you're in a group of people that you think are your friends, and who have acted like your friends for some time, and then they turn on you and become total assholes, it's understandably upsetting.

This is true if the setting it happens in is a school, or a workplace, or in a sports arena, or on the telephone, or in a letter, or on the internet, or in a game.

A game is just a game and isn't real life. True.

However, an asshole in a game IS an asshole in real life. Every time.

Shadey

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Im crying now from laughter just thinking someome would cry over a game to the point of quitting the guild..lol

Quitting because the guy was a prat..sure..but crying?..lol

Call me insensitive but please.

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

Nope, Never lol. Not that weak.

Lord High Pwner

Lord High Pwner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Arizona

KGOA Knights of GOA

D/

Im guilty of rage, but never crying or expressing my rage on anyone, Logging out is far easier.

Esan

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhedd
However, an asshole in a game IS an asshole in real life. Every time.
Internet assholery is cheap. If I tried a tenth of the things I routinely get away with online in real life, I should have had all my teeth knocked out long ago.

longhornrob

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

This is why I won't ever be an elite in this game or any other. I just can't get into a game so much that I'd push myself to anger over dying. I'm fine with being mediocre in the game, so long as I'm still enjoying it. If someone is being an arse to me in game, I just mute them. Even if it's a guildie, I'll just note it in my memory not to play with him anymore.

Asplode

Asplode

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Chicago, IL

Rebel Rising [rawr]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yichi
(I apologize in advance if I just made anyone cry...)
Whenever I hear Yichi's voice I shed tears of joy.

...you bastard, apology not accepted!

-edit-

The level of pretentiousness in this thread has officially reached critical levels. Apathy meltdown imminent.

Tender Care

Tender Care

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2008

Blackwater Park

MpF

P/

I found very hard to cry for something happening into a on-line game....that's really stupid imo......and i found also hard to get anrgy if i lose a pvp match, fail an elite mission, bad team players etc etc etc...it's a game, it does not affect my personal feelings......BTW: if i fail an elite mission i can be pissed of, but not angery....i can laugh say someone is a bad player or tell him to review is build, but it won't make me cry, nor get angry......

I wonder how can you cry for something happening on a game.....

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

How can you be pissed off but not angry?

Takekaze

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhedd
You know what I get sick of hearing in conversations like this?

I'll tell you. (Like you thought I wouldn't.)

I get sick of hearing, "It's only a game."

Yes, the GAME is only a game, but the PEOPLE are actually people.

If you're in a group of people that you think are your friends, and who have acted like your friends for some time, and then they turn on you and become total assholes, it's understandably upsetting.

This is true if the setting it happens in is a school, or a workplace, or in a sports arena, or on the telephone, or in a letter, or on the internet, or in a game.

A game is just a game and isn't real life. True.

However, an asshole in a game IS an asshole in real life. Every time.
Well, the people may be actual people, but there is still the distance. They are not "real" real. You know they are there, but you communicate with them either by Vent/TS/whatever or the keyboard. You don't face them. As for "friends"... it takes a long time to be my "friend" (as in "real friend", not as in "acquaintance"). Being in the same game is not enough, not on my side. And I don't really care whether they are real people or not, but that's me. I don't know them, chances that I will ever meet them IRL are pretty much zero, so why care? Their actual impact on my real life is... insignificant (if it exists at all).

It's different in a real game like... icehockey. You scream at me there like some kids behave on Vent in any random computer game and I knock you over... IRL. It's different, very different. You do that at my workplace and I'll challenge you to real duel. Bokken, no armor. Been there, done that (and trust me... it hurts, for real). Those screaming kids on Vent are only strong and dare to do it because they don't have to fear any consequences. Not really impressive. Takes no balls to do that.

And finally... it's only a game.

Innocent

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/

You know, I don't know about you. But when I'm playing basket ball or soccer and a teammate isn't performing up to par, I'm going to let them know about it. If they're holding the team back from the provincials/nationals, I'd straight up be mad at them if they didn't acknowledge it and work on it. Similarly, if I were playing Guild Wars gvg to try and win, I would be expecting others in my team to put out that effort to get better so we can achieve that goal as a team.

Take, I don't know what you play in GW, but it's a bit like having someone in your elite mission/fow/etc/etc group turn out to be someone that is just RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing around. They know how to play Guild Wars, but they are just being a dick, detracting from your team. How would you feel? Not angry? I highly doubt it.

cgruber

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Tryst of Vengenance [ToV]

Mo/Me

Respect is earned. Raising your voice or being a jerk doesn't change that.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

I cry whenever our song comes on, Mhenlo. What does Cynn have that I don't? WHY?!

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

yes....but it wasnt pvp or pve....
(and yes I am female and we do cry---it relieves stress so no idea why men would not do it, but then again women still do live longer-perhaps because we can cry?)...
people can be very rude, very insensitive and very callous, insulting etc....thought I doubt the people who caused my moment of weakness even play or use guru any longer (though I know one of them does and he is unaware of what he did)....

Sai Rith

Sai Rith

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/

Not cry as in sad or angry cry, but I ahve cried to due laughter.

Koudelka

Koudelka

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

England

The Khaotic Empire (TKE)

Me/Mo

It's hard to say... when you're reading someone's text it's far more detached then hearing it for yourself. I do not use Vent or Teamspeak, so I wouldn't know if it had that much of a greater effect, but I can see why your friend was upset. High-end PvP really is a no-go zone for me.

Count Feanor

Count Feanor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Hellsing Organization or... RIGHT BEHIND YOU!!

The Royal Priesthood

N/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inde
Hey, I agree. But what you are saying... it doesn't work that way. We all know it. There are "noble and polite" players out there doing PvP. I know many of them, but being in a situation that's competitive and you see someone drop the ball you are going to get frustrated. Take this example for anything competitive: soccer, football, hockey, basketball, gaming, or anything else that involves relying on fellow team mates.

You see cheap shots taken, you see intentional fouls, you see fights on the field, probably don't even want to know what goes on in the locker room (teammates can be extremely harsh, especially the coaches) ... while what you say is certainly encouraged... reality doesn't stack up to it either.
I agree with both of you. Yes, this stuff happens in any competitive arena. However, there is a point where someone needs to take a stand against this type of behavior or it's going to keep happening. Personally, I'm a pretty passive person, and have been battling when it is appropriate and right to confront certain situations and when it is wise to "let it slide". It really just depends on the situation (and I'm not saying I always get it right). As far as whether I personally have cried? No, I can't say I've been close to crying in GW. Some people cry when they are stressed (and this situation seemed pretty stressful); it also hurts when attacked by a "friend". In a perfect world...

Kashrlyyk

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by HuntMaster Avatar
Sorry for the chick who got booted, this will teach her people in general suck and using vent is a bad idea. Who wants to hear the voices or nerd clones and high pitch kiddy talk. No thanks.

Personally I think it takes a very emotionally unstable person to break down over a video game. It also takes an emotionally unstable person to scream into a mic over a video game.

Raging over a game = failed at life.
Crying over a game = need a serious break from video games.
Please, show me in the OP, where someone cried over a video game!! She cried because she was treated badly, not because she lost a PvP match. There are several other people in this thread, that should really read the OP and the question!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhedd
You know what I get sick of hearing in conversations like this?

I'll tell you. (Like you thought I wouldn't.)

I get sick of hearing, "It's only a game."

Yes, the GAME is only a game, but the PEOPLE are actually people.

If you're in a group of people that you think are your friends, and who have acted like your friends for some time, and then they turn on you and become total assholes, it's understandably upsetting.

This is true if the setting it happens in is a school, or a workplace, or in a sports arena, or on the telephone, or in a letter, or on the internet, or in a game.

A game is just a game and isn't real life. True.

However, an asshole in a game IS an asshole in real life. Every time.
He has read the OP. Great post.

Yang Whirlwind

Yang Whirlwind

~ Retired ~

Join Date: Nov 2005

Copenhagen, Denmark (GMT +1)

E/

No! but I'm a mod,- we have no feelings or heart to speak of anyways!

Wait a minute, does crying over stupidity count?

DreamRunner

DreamRunner

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

I actually don't think you can truly socialize on the internet. Many factors that usually have an impact when people socialize such as body language or facial expression are ruled out. Does it have a big impact on people's persona? I say, yes!

I know a few people who seem very secure on the internet, but when it comes into real life... they are very shy people.

Truly strange is it not?

Silent Coyote

Silent Coyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

E/N

Like others in this thread I'm to hardcore to show emotions :P.

Seriously though I've never really had any run-ins with major jerks in this game, guess I'm lucky. Well, I've been in a few pugs (ok, most of em) with jerks but you expect that sort of thing when joining pugs anyway.

Guild wise I've never had problems with members. But I can see why the event in the original post could get to you. It's not nice to be on the receiving end of someones misplaced rage whether you can see them or not.

On a side note, why would it be so bad if a game made somebody cry? Isn't the entire point of entertainment to invoke a wide range of emotional responses in the audience (thus entertaining them)? Personally I would think a game that could move someone to the point of crying would be a strong contender for games as art.

ManMadeGod

ManMadeGod

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Tbh only one person makes me cry.
Isaiah Cartwright.

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamRunner
I know a few people who seem very secure on the internet, but when it comes into real life... they are very shy people.

Truly strange is it not?
This is not strange, probably 80-90% of the people are like that.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by deluxe
This is not strange, probably 80-90% of the people are like that.
Yay, I'm not the only one!

The Arma Dega

The Arma Dega

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

My Swivel Chair Goes Up And [Down]

Mo/Me

PvP can turn you into an ass, specially if you pug, but it's all about toleration and patience.

JoeKnowMo

JoeKnowMo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Wessst Siiide, USA

Mo/

Guru forums make me cry. Especially the big meanie mods.

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Arma Dega
PvP can turn you into an ass, specially if you pug, but it's all about toleration and patience.
Totally. Sometimes i criticize a build just to start a fight. It may not be a good build, but it's decent, yet i'll still go for it. Sometimes argument for the sake of an argument is fun. As for crying, nope.

Courage!

Courage!

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2008

Australia

Mo/

wow deja vu my m8 made a guy who was like 10 years cry on vent for making the team die in FoW

zayphr

zayphr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

up in ur internets, playin ur guild warz

Diabolus Crepundia [VAIN]

i think the op had a legitimate reason to be upset. being friends with someone for 2 years, even if just online, should cause a person to have some sort of feeling for the other. i had a very close friend i met on a message board and she was the one who actually got me into online gaming. we talked almost daily for nearly 3 years, just online. we never spoke over the phone, in person, etc. if she would have, all of a sudden, started being an ass, calling me names and such, i would of course be very upset and possibly would have cried. i don't know for sure because the situation never happened to me.

i think this is, unfortunately, a common theme with online games and the internet in general. a lot of people seem to enjoy being assholes to other people because they know there is no consequence. in real life, the vast majority would not say these things to other people. and the general population seems to be losing all compassion and consideration for other people. that doesn't mean having to "kiss ass" but just being civil to other human beings. in my opinion, all these "10 year olds" everyone likes to talk about are more likely to be stressed, frustrated teens and young adults getting off on putting others down because of something that happened to them in real life.