Dev Update: Hall of Monuments Changes - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

24 Jun 2008 at 18:27 - 1

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In the latest Developer Update, the design team reveals exciting news about the Hall of Monuments. Head over to the official wiki for the full story.

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Since the release of Eye of the North there has been a lot of discussion about how the Hall of Monuments works. We intend to address a few of the larger concerns raised by players. We are not able to announce a specific date at which these changes will be released, but we're explaining them now so that players can choose their play patterns accordingly.

1. In the Hall of Monuments, you will be able to choose to view your accomplishments by character or by account. This is a setting you’ll be able to switch back and forth.

2. Hall of Monuments accomplishments will be sent to Guild Wars 2 by account. All Hall of Monuments accomplishments for any Guild Wars character on your account will be available to every Guild Wars 2 character on your account.

3. We will be adding support for Tormented weapons to the Hall of Monuments.

Account-based Accomplishments

Because the Hall of Monuments displays accomplishments on a character-by-character basis, many players have felt strongly discouraged from playing multiple characters. To allow greater freedom in play style, we are changing the design for the Hall of Monuments. Accomplishments will be transferred to Guild Wars 2 on an account-by-account basis, and players will have the option of displaying their accomplishments by account or by character in the Hall of Monuments. (Please note that the armor statues in the Monument to Resilience will reflect the appearance of the character currently in the Hall of Monuments, not the character that originally displayed that armor set.)

Tormented Weapons

Currently, the Monument to Valor only allows the display of Destroyer weapons. Adding support for Tormented weapons will allow us to give players more options for what they want to display (and unlock for Guild Wars 2) without diminishing the exclusivity currently associated with this monument.

Guild Wars 2 Unlocks

Aside from the switch to account-based accomplishments, this has not changed. You will be able to add to the Hall of Monuments in the original Guild Wars even after the release of Guild Wars 2, and any newly unlocked accomplishments will then be visible in Guild Wars 2. We will provide more information about the exact rewards for each Hall of Monuments accomplishment as we get closer to the release of Guild Wars 2.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

24 Jun 2008 at 18:29 - 2

: O

Nothing but "kick ass".

Free Sigils

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Puff Puff Pass That Oh W T F [B스n]

Me/P

24 Jun 2008 at 18:30 - 3

GG Anet. Best mod made in quite a while.

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

24 Jun 2008 at 18:31 - 4

That seems pretty cool. Don't really have any problems with that.

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

24 Jun 2008 at 18:31 - 5

Yes, account based was how it should have been to begin with.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

24 Jun 2008 at 18:33 - 6

Wait, what?

Finally a semi-decent update I can look forward to...

Now I want my skill balances!

ShadowbaneX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes of the Horn

A/Me

24 Jun 2008 at 18:34 - 7

Nice to hear, but will they change some titles, like say Treasure Hunter or Wisdom to the entire account? Also, it's nice to see them add some new weapons to the list, but I also hope they add something else. Tormented weapons are better then Destroyer, but not by much in my opinion.

Ravious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Servants of Fortuna

N/Mo

24 Jun 2008 at 18:34 - 8

So... I am confuzzled with the overlap. Like what will happen if Character A has added Kurzick armor in his HoM, and Character B has added Kurzock armor in her HoM, then walk in with Character C to look at the account-wide HoM?

Also does anyone know if you can dedicate two separate Destroyer Swords?

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

24 Jun 2008 at 18:34 - 9

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!

This is just pure awesome.

HoM was The Biggest GW Disappointment of 2007 for me, but this is The Best GW related news I've heard in 2008!

Bravo Anet. Finally a great decision.

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

R/

24 Jun 2008 at 18:35 - 10

Just to be sure I am understanding correctly...

Character-based maxed titles will be account-based as far as the HoM is concerned? So my sin will have the monuments for, say, finishing prophesies?

If so, then WOOO HOOO!!!!

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

24 Jun 2008 at 18:36 - 11

Best news i've heard in a while. I'm very very happy about account based monuments( if I read right, thats what it is correct?)

doudou_steve

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

Canada

Guildless QQ

W/

24 Jun 2008 at 18:37 - 12

GG ANET
I doubt you will receive complains now :P

but i would like to know one thing:

-Is it 1 HoM for the whole account

example: If i bring my dervish to HoM, will it show what my warrior(primary) gained?

Edit: oh nvm, i re-read and now i understand.

Garsty

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

24 Jun 2008 at 18:37 - 13

very good news. Something ive been hoping for in a while.

EroChrono

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Netherlands

[WitB]

W/

24 Jun 2008 at 18:42 - 14

I'm excited to see this implemented!

Long time since I've been excited about Guild Wars!

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

24 Jun 2008 at 18:42 - 15

let me get this right, if i make a new toon, get r3 survivor put it in his HoM then delete him,ill still reap the rewards?

schweet

Danax

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Ontario

R/Mo

24 Jun 2008 at 18:45 - 16

still a bit confused...If I get legendary survivor on another character, I can add it to the "account based hom?" and I will have it unlocked in GW2? Interesting...pondering about how it will work out.

Oops reread...This update is SO KICKASS for me. I'll be able to create a monk and not feel tempted to go for the full 25 maxed title works, like I did on my ranger =p

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

24 Jun 2008 at 18:51 - 17

I made a long post but i had an error. So ill resume it.

I liked this very much, but it will not give us the total freedom to play with multiple characters like we wanted.
For example, we will not have the option to vanquish one continent with mutiple character (vanquishing half of it with one character and the other half with another). Some titles progress must also go account-wide, since with this there wont be much sense doing it with another character. Please take this into consideration. I dont belive it takes too much of an effort changing this, or does it?

My professor taught me that everything that comes after BUT is more emphatic, so ill remake my main sentance (because im not a ungrateful son of a b*%$).
This will not give us the complete freedom we wanted, but i liked it and im thankful.

Thank you.

hurric

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

BC

24 Jun 2008 at 18:52 - 18

GOOOOOOD update!! I can PvE again. it's how it should've been from the beginning and putting some of the original GW ideas back in (grind on one char = bad). I was worried it was becoming WoW but it's a little more like GW again.

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

24 Jun 2008 at 18:53 - 19

Yes anet!!!! Wewt wewt on finally getting this right!

Now all you need to do is feed me some actual info on GW2 and I will be a happy person (but i suppose this will last me for a few weeks)

Just another point to make, this once again proves that anet listens after enough complaining on these forums, sadly. :P

Danax

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Ontario

R/Mo

24 Jun 2008 at 18:54 - 20

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Originally Posted by Gregslot

For example, we will not have the option to vanquish one continent with mutiple character (just an example).

That kind of defeats the purpose of the title >_<. That's like saying "We do not have the option of splitting the 1.377 Million experience without dieing on multiple characters"

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

24 Jun 2008 at 18:55 - 21

We'll definitely need to see how this gets implemented...I have a feeling that not every accomplishment will be transferrable to the account-based monument.

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

24 Jun 2008 at 18:57 - 22

THIS IS GREAT NEWSSSSSSSSSSSS I LOVE THIS SO MUCH!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FINALLY in some way my monk will get surviver title rank 3, well his descendant can.

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

24 Jun 2008 at 18:58 - 23

Doesn't matter much to me.

I've focused on my fav character, my necro - I don't care much about my other's character titles. If I can have it displayed anyways, I'm for it. Else, I don't care.

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

24 Jun 2008 at 19:00 - 24

but this means instead of getting all the armours for my monk i can also decide to buy that armor for a different character instead. one in which the armor is more suited.
as goes for weapons, we no longer have to customise abunch of weapons thats obviously never going to be used on that character

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

24 Jun 2008 at 19:03 - 25

It's gonna be a nice improvement. Thanks, A-Net!

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

24 Jun 2008 at 19:03 - 26

Better late then never, right?

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

24 Jun 2008 at 19:04 - 27

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Originally Posted by Danax

That kind of defeats the purpose of the title >_<. That's like saying "We do not have the option of splitting the 1.377 Million experience without dieing on multiple characters"

Isnt the purpose of the title make the PLAYER kill all enemies in hard mode at one continent? So if you vanquish half of the continent should it not be considered as VANQUISHED for the player? If you play with other character should the game say "no, you vanquished this area before but now you are playing a different role so you didint vanquished it"
And by following your though, if the purpuse of the title is focused on a single character, they shouldnt make any title account-wide via HOM. If you havent vanquished it with the other characters, the game shoudlnt consider it vanquished for all characters. But this is just following what you say.

Lord Xeshm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

24 Jun 2008 at 19:04 - 28

If I read into this appropriately, and if Anet executes this properly, I shall be very happy!

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

W/

24 Jun 2008 at 19:04 - 29

Woohoo!!! Heading home and creating a survivor character tonight!

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

24 Jun 2008 at 19:06 - 30

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Originally Posted by Ravious

So... I am confuzzled with the overlap. Like what will happen if Character A has added Kurzick armor in his HoM, and Character B has added Kurzock armor in her HoM, then walk in with Character C to look at the account-wide HoM?

Also does anyone know if you can dedicate two separate Destroyer Swords?

I'm guessing it will be a sacrifice you will have to make to have an account based HoM. The monument will probably read. Unlocked "blah blah armour" it probably wont say how many chars have the armour just that its unlocked.

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

R/

24 Jun 2008 at 19:07 - 31

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Originally Posted by Danax

That kind of defeats the purpose of the title >_<. That's like saying "We do not have the option of splitting the 1.377 Million experience without dieing on multiple characters"

Yes! Legendary Survivor - Ursan Mode! Just create 1400 characters and get 1k each!

Miska Bow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

somewhere, Grinding some l33t titles

Order of the Divine WoodChuck

R/

24 Jun 2008 at 19:14 - 32

Nice and thx Anet.

now what about the dyed armor problem? or being able to select how title are displayed? Or having the weapons showed in a bigger version?

Since you made this to be seen as an eye candy, might as well do it right.

Hollow Gein

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Menos Espadas

N/

24 Jun 2008 at 19:17 - 33

Yah!!! Some good news for a change. Just peachy. GG

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

24 Jun 2008 at 19:18 - 34

cant wait for my ele to go in and see saintly armor on her!! (and I believe my male rit will be upset to see himself in tats

)
but glad they are listening to us for once.
now to go out and get plat for those tormented weapons

Mr Face

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

England

Wuss

Mo/Me

24 Jun 2008 at 19:18 - 35

I'm very pleased with this update, it's been a long time comming!

Just watch them Armbrace prices shoot up :P

dilan155

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

living room

N/

24 Jun 2008 at 19:20 - 36

hmm time for a spike in armbraces and the whole tormented thing is not good,
specially if tormented unlocks a different perk compared to destroyer ones. that would mean you have to get some kind of tormented thing in order to get the full perks. other than that the best update ive seen since a couple of months

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

24 Jun 2008 at 19:22 - 37

GG ANet!

I particularly like the feeling that GW2 is coming closer (and maybe news about it

).

Ok, I've got to stop GWG to fill my HoM now.

DreamWind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2006

E/Mo

24 Jun 2008 at 19:22 - 38

Yay!! More reasons to grind as an incentive to buy GW2. Hardy har harr!!

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

24 Jun 2008 at 19:25 - 39

About time we saw something good come out. Probably won't be forcing myself to fill out the Monument of Valor until I know which weapons do what for unlocks. Tormented weapons in general look fancier than Destroyer weapons to me, but the story may be different in GW2.

Also something I thought about is that there won't be room to show off all the Tormented and Destroyer weapons at once. Maybe they'll enlarge the monument to make room?

Oh, snap, I just realized that this also gives me a fine reason to try and go for LDoA and LS characters.

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

24 Jun 2008 at 19:25 - 40

Good update, but i won't make any more pve characters. I'm just done with that.

Still, if you have a survivor paragon, a treasure hunter wammo and a cartographer ranger, you wil still be able to get all the rewards for your GW2 character.