cool.
so if im reading this right, each armor set will be displayable as that armor type if you posted it for any character. so...if you got one FoW set and one vabbian, you can display for any class? this will probably get me to buy one of each type of elite armor...spread over all my characters on my account.
Dev Update: Hall of Monuments Changes
The Red Messenger
Striken7
Finally, a good update that gets back to at least one of the basic principles of GW - encouragement to play and learn multiple characters and professions. Even better, I have absolutely no questions about how it will work, because I read the whole post. As long as they don't change anything they've said here, it's all pretty self-explanatory.
I do wish they would change more of the gold-only titles to account based, the way Lucky and Unlucky are.
Drunkard, Sweet Tooth, Party Animal, Elite Skill Captures. All could easily fit the account-based method.
I do wish they would change more of the gold-only titles to account based, the way Lucky and Unlucky are.
Drunkard, Sweet Tooth, Party Animal, Elite Skill Captures. All could easily fit the account-based method.
BenjZee
Lol everyone remember how the HOM was on the sneak peak weekend 
you had a specific profession and gender for each armor that appeared
i dont think it would be easy if they were to change alot of the titles to account based. kinda like the retrospective achievments.
you had a specific profession and gender for each armor that appearedi dont think it would be easy if they were to change alot of the titles to account based. kinda like the retrospective achievments.
Scarlett Romanov
I am very pleased! 
I have new initative to play again. Here I come legendary defender of ascalon! w00t!
WinterSnowblind
Fantastic, I haven't been buying armour sets for my other characters soley because I thought it would all be a waste by the time GW2 comes out, and I've been focusing just on the one character, to get him as good as possible, I'm very pleased to see they've been paying attention and have completely fixed this problem.
Thanks.
Thanks.
captain_carter
Regarding GW2 unlocks and exactly how things will work:
Noone knows yet, A-net probably haven't got it worked out yet. Noone can give a truthfully full answer to these questions.
My interpretation regarding the armour:
In character-based mode it will look exactly as it does now.
In account-based mode you will see a monument for each armour added by any character on your account (up to the maximum number that can be displayed), but it will appear as armour for the proffession and sex of the character you are currently looking at it with, and will presumably have the colour of the current armour he/she is wearing.
Noone knows yet, A-net probably haven't got it worked out yet. Noone can give a truthfully full answer to these questions.
My interpretation regarding the armour:
In character-based mode it will look exactly as it does now.
In account-based mode you will see a monument for each armour added by any character on your account (up to the maximum number that can be displayed), but it will appear as armour for the proffession and sex of the character you are currently looking at it with, and will presumably have the colour of the current armour he/she is wearing.
Gregslot
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legendary survivor should be character based
vanquisher can be easily done account based: if one character has vanquished an area, it counts as vanquished for all characters I think they should do treasure & wisdom title account based aswell I hate always have to switch to my warrior for identifying golds and not beeing able to use lockpicks/key because i have to save them up for my warrior here's what i think they should make account based:
Should stay character based: (but can ofcourse be added to account-HoM)
Titles in the account-based list should be added (for example: my warrior has 350 ID's on his wisdom title, my monk has 100 ID's, so the total should be 450) That's also one of the reasons i didn't add protector & carthographer to the accountbased list => (for example: if someone has completely carthographed an area, it should be available to all character to see it completely, even if they didn't visit that area yet, same for missions) |
Now reffering to Protector/Guardian. I will use the same argument as for vanquishing. And also a very plain and simple: to have fun. Having mutiple characters and going for a title, the experience will be far more enjoyable knowing that you can play any role you want to. At least it does sound for me (i have 5 characters i like to play for fun, mesmer, elementalist, warrior, assassin, ritualist and dervish).
Sai Rith
I don't quite understand. So if I let's say get Survivor title on any cahracter, that title becomes account based in the HoM?
BenjZee
thats what seems to be right, they were straight to the point about this update aswell .. no confussions
Gregslot
Ahm, i dont quiet understand one thing.
If i buy a Vaabian armor with my mesmer and i log in with my Ritualist, will it display a Vaabian armor for my ritualist (with the ritualist model and etc)?
If i buy a Vaabian armor with my mesmer and i log in with my Ritualist, will it display a Vaabian armor for my ritualist (with the ritualist model and etc)?
BladeWind
Four words.
Your the daddy ANET
Your the daddy ANET
captain_carter
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Ahm, i dont quiet understand one thing.
If i buy a Vaabian armor with my mesmer and i log in with my Ritualist, will it display a Vaabian armor for my ritualist (with the ritualist model and etc)? |
Dark-NighT
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Did someone mention me? :3
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Well one of my mates cant stick to just one char, he spends shitloads of money on it, then gets bored and makes a new one
but after the update he can share all his stuff in one hall.
BenjZee
yup as simple as that
Tyla
By the way, I'm a little confused about some of it.
If you have multiple armoursets across multiple characters (e.g Marhan's Grotto armour on your Mesmer in the HoM and Ancient on your Ranger), would it add both the Marhan's Grotto and the Ancient armour in all of your HoM's?
If you have multiple armoursets across multiple characters (e.g Marhan's Grotto armour on your Mesmer in the HoM and Ancient on your Ranger), would it add both the Marhan's Grotto and the Ancient armour in all of your HoM's?
nekopowa
I wonder will different titles from different characters count to KoaBD in the account-based mode. If so, no point making anything account-wide since the account-based HoM will count in GW2.
Darksun
This is neat, but I have to say..
I'm surprised that after all the stupid little things Guru member complained about in the HoM that people are so excited over this.
This is... really not that big of a deal
I'm glad the general response is positive, but you people are strange..
I'm surprised that after all the stupid little things Guru member complained about in the HoM that people are so excited over this.
This is... really not that big of a deal
I'm glad the general response is positive, but you people are strange..
Ben-A-BoO
Awesomeness!
Thanks Anet
Thanks Anet
BenjZee
yes i also doubt they'll change the current titles. Also You may get GWAMM on one character which causes the beacon across the account but it doesnt mean al lthe characters get the title. so if you like the look of titless which i do im still going for KOABD on each one
Yichi
Wow... ANET doing something positive??!!
/awaits fail
/awaits fail
Yawgmoth
While I'm still amazed by the announcement of HoM going account-based, I can't imagine how they will handle the aggregation technically.
First I thought the acc-based HoM would be a separate clean one you would come into or activate and manually put in the achievements you want, coming with any characters you want. This would work with all of the monuments except the minipets one - you can show customized weapons or armors you wear to a fresh new account monument but your minis are already dedicated but not to a specific char or account. And even worse - players often got rid of dedicated minis, so they would have nothing to show. This would require an automatic way of filling the account minis monument, but if a programmer can do that, then changing Treasure Hunter and Wisdom to account-based should be a piece of cake.
Now something to think about: Is the Kind of a Big Deal title going to have any meaning in the account-based HoM, where all achievements can come from different chars?
The title itself doesn't have a statue but it changes the appearance of whole monument, upgrading it in 'ranks' from 0 to 5. But will you be able to bring all those maxed titles from different characters to your HoM to get the effect or you will need at least 1 char with "I Have Many Leather-Bound Books(4)" and fill other monuments however you want to achieve max rank "Honor"?
First I thought the acc-based HoM would be a separate clean one you would come into or activate and manually put in the achievements you want, coming with any characters you want. This would work with all of the monuments except the minipets one - you can show customized weapons or armors you wear to a fresh new account monument but your minis are already dedicated but not to a specific char or account. And even worse - players often got rid of dedicated minis, so they would have nothing to show. This would require an automatic way of filling the account minis monument, but if a programmer can do that, then changing Treasure Hunter and Wisdom to account-based should be a piece of cake.
Now something to think about: Is the Kind of a Big Deal title going to have any meaning in the account-based HoM, where all achievements can come from different chars?
The title itself doesn't have a statue but it changes the appearance of whole monument, upgrading it in 'ranks' from 0 to 5. But will you be able to bring all those maxed titles from different characters to your HoM to get the effect or you will need at least 1 char with "I Have Many Leather-Bound Books(4)" and fill other monuments however you want to achieve max rank "Honor"?
Tatile
I await screenshots. Not as proof mind you, but I want to know how this works before I start fiddling with my Hall.
Nice looking change, thanks guys
P.S. Not cynical, just cautious. Rightfully so?
Nice looking change, thanks guys
P.S. Not cynical, just cautious. Rightfully so?
fowlero
I've probably missed it so apologies if i have.
Is this implemented or is it an upcoming?
Is this implemented or is it an upcoming?
Another Felldspar
Incredibly nice!
Thank you A-Net. Thank you very much.
Thank you A-Net. Thank you very much.
Lord Sojar
Oh....a....mai.....a.....ghod....... ANET has been taken over by aliens. This is not the real ANET. We have been deceived.
Jetdoc
I wonder how they are going to do the minipet monument...if it will display some mix of the minipets you've already dedicated?
It's honestly the only one I've tried to fill up on more than one character, because it's insanely easy (and cheap) to do so.
It's honestly the only one I've tried to fill up on more than one character, because it's insanely easy (and cheap) to do so.
Arutima
Thanks anet. Now, make wisdom and treasure hunter account based
kradens
there wouldnt be ANY point of any of the titles remaining character based.
why?
because GW2 will allow u to make all ur new characters reap the benefits from ur HoM.........because it transfers account-to-account.
so single character titles//
dont make any sense.
in light of this accout-to-account thing.
THINK about it.
why?
because GW2 will allow u to make all ur new characters reap the benefits from ur HoM.........because it transfers account-to-account.
so single character titles//
dont make any sense.
in light of this accout-to-account thing.
THINK about it.
shoyon456
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Originally Posted by kradens
there wouldnt be ANY point of any of the titles remaining character based.
why? because GW2 will allow u to make all ur new characters reap the benefits from ur HoM.........because it transfers account-to-account. so single character titles// dont make any sense. in light of this accout-to-account thing. THINK about it. |
NoXiFy
cool, add a monument/space for gloves and headpieces and ill be happier. The fact that i payed 75 ecto (when they were 5k each from players -_-) for some gloves that people can now farm for in 3 hours is ridiculus. Give me an accomplishment for gw2 so i dont feel so damn bad.
kradens
id ur planning to stick with gw1.
how does HoM changes affect u at ALL?
how does HoM changes affect u at ALL?
Jenn
I'm wholly unenthused, mostly because it doesn't matter (at lease for GW1). I'd say what confined people to one character was title hunting, not the Hall of Monuments. What is good about this news is that it's account-wide now, which is of benefit for GW2. Cheers.
kradens
if u previous had 3 ancient armors, it'd mean that ud be able to get three ancient armor rewards for three gw2 characters now.
now. ur three ancient armors will count for one ancient armour. BUT, u can have AS MANY gw2 chars with the ancient armor reward.
sounds way better.
now. ur three ancient armors will count for one ancient armour. BUT, u can have AS MANY gw2 chars with the ancient armor reward.
sounds way better.
Solas
Thank and You, Best news i've heard in ages about GW
But please make it so that if the character is deleted the account wont suffer.
Just hope the rewards are very good
But please make it so that if the character is deleted the account wont suffer.
Just hope the rewards are very good
Clobimon
My vision of this news is:
If each character's HoM is left on the setting "character view" it will appear no different than it does now for each character. The only difference is the ability to put up Tormented weapons.
If "account view" is selected for a the hall you're in, it will show the maximum that you've achieved without duplications. A player like myself will end up seeing a hall very similar to their "main" character's. I currently have 26 titles on my main and all the titles on any other characters (except Leg. Survivor) are just repeated ones - multiple LG's, LSH's, etc.
The main point, or best point of this news is #2 "All Hall of Monuments accomplishments for any Guild Wars character on your account will be available to every Guild Wars 2 character on your account." That's all I needed to hear to feel good. Those like myself that have one character with 25-35 won't feel like they're at gunpoint to get their others with 5-15 up a lot higher so more GW2 characters benefit. And, those with 25-35 different titles all spread across multiple characters will benefit in the same way in GW2.
good deal!
If each character's HoM is left on the setting "character view" it will appear no different than it does now for each character. The only difference is the ability to put up Tormented weapons.
If "account view" is selected for a the hall you're in, it will show the maximum that you've achieved without duplications. A player like myself will end up seeing a hall very similar to their "main" character's. I currently have 26 titles on my main and all the titles on any other characters (except Leg. Survivor) are just repeated ones - multiple LG's, LSH's, etc.
The main point, or best point of this news is #2 "All Hall of Monuments accomplishments for any Guild Wars character on your account will be available to every Guild Wars 2 character on your account." That's all I needed to hear to feel good. Those like myself that have one character with 25-35 won't feel like they're at gunpoint to get their others with 5-15 up a lot higher so more GW2 characters benefit. And, those with 25-35 different titles all spread across multiple characters will benefit in the same way in GW2.
good deal!
WinterSnowblind
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
While I'm still amazed by the announcement of HoM going account-based, I can't imagine how they will handle the aggregation technically.
First I thought the acc-based HoM would be a separate clean one you would come into or activate and manually put in the achievements you want, coming with any characters you want. This would work with all of the monuments except the minipets one - you can show customized weapons or armors you wear to a fresh new account monument but your minis are already dedicated but not to a specific char or account. And even worse - players often got rid of dedicated minis, so they would have nothing to show. This would require an automatic way of filling the account minis monument, but if a programmer can do that, then changing Treasure Hunter and Wisdom to account-based should be a piece of cake. Now something to think about: Is the Kind of a Big Deal title going to have any meaning in the account-based HoM, where all achievements can come from different chars? The title itself doesn't have a statue but it changes the appearance of whole monument, upgrading it in 'ranks' from 0 to 5. But will you be able to bring all those maxed titles from different characters to your HoM to get the effect or you will need at least 1 char with "I Have Many Leather-Bound Books(4)" and fill other monuments however you want to achieve max rank "Honor"? |
I could be wrong, of course, but that's my understanding of it.
Covah
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Oh....a....mai.....a.....ghod....... ANET has been taken over by aliens. This is not the real ANET. We have been deceived.
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APRIL FOOLS!!!!!!!
Anyways this is good news. Lots more people will be going for LDoA it seems
VladDrakken
Don't get me wrong, Im loving the tormented weapon updates, but I think a few of us are getting the short end of the stick with the new account-wide implementation.
You see, I have about around 80+ dedicated minis (3 full mini monuments), 25+ dedicated destroyer weapons (2 full weapons monuments), 3 full armor monuments and 3 full heroes monuments. This doesnt doesnt include the titles I tolled on different characters (4 full).
Some of us accepted the fact that the HOM was set up the way it is before the June 24 update, so we went ahead and filled up the characters we wanted to save for GW2. Yes, it wasn't perfect and it really sucked, but Anet should compensate those few people who worked hard. After all, by my count, I spent around 10mil (hard earned, not ebayed or farmed) gold to get my Hall of Monuments where its at right now.
This Bleeping bleep really bleep bleep bleep! Bleepers! Bleeping whiners!
... thoughts? Did any of you completed more than 2 Hall of Monuments prior to the June 24 update? If so, dont you feel a bit cheated and would expect a reward?
Vlad the Mad
You see, I have about around 80+ dedicated minis (3 full mini monuments), 25+ dedicated destroyer weapons (2 full weapons monuments), 3 full armor monuments and 3 full heroes monuments. This doesnt doesnt include the titles I tolled on different characters (4 full).
Some of us accepted the fact that the HOM was set up the way it is before the June 24 update, so we went ahead and filled up the characters we wanted to save for GW2. Yes, it wasn't perfect and it really sucked, but Anet should compensate those few people who worked hard. After all, by my count, I spent around 10mil (hard earned, not ebayed or farmed) gold to get my Hall of Monuments where its at right now.
This Bleeping bleep really bleep bleep bleep! Bleepers! Bleeping whiners!
... thoughts? Did any of you completed more than 2 Hall of Monuments prior to the June 24 update? If so, dont you feel a bit cheated and would expect a reward?
Vlad the Mad
shoyon456
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... thoughts? Did any of you completed more than 2 Hall of Monuments prior to the June 24 update? If so, dont you feel a bit cheated and would expect a reward?
Vlad the Mad |
I see how you would be upset, but you worked for those things in gw1. None of us knew/know how they would present themselves in gw2, and you can't really expect it to turn out your way.
Also, the new system doesnt make your accomplishments on each char worthless, im sure it'll all tie in together nicely.
Dylananimus
Cheer up, it's a game Nobody forced you to spend all that pixel money
Your reward should be your own sense of achievement, unless you only did it to make your e-peen bigger and that's all.
Nobody forced you to spend all that pixel money Your reward should be your own sense of achievement, unless you only did it to make your e-peen bigger and that's all.