Dev Update: Hall of Monuments Changes

Kalendraf

Kalendraf

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

Cedar Rapids, IA

Charter Vanguard

W/E

As far as weapons go, this seems to be a great update. I wasn't looking forward to crafting a bunch of useless weapons for my main title character. Now it looks like I'll be able to craft warrior weapons for the warrior, a bow for the ranger, a stave, wand and focus for my ele, etc.

I also suspect that some mini-pet prices may plummet. The only reason I was hanging onto dupes was because I wasn't sure how they might affect the HoM. Now it appears there will be almost no reason to keep any mini-pet dupes.

It also means I won't have to run Glint's Challenge any more to get armor upgrades for all my toons' EOTN heroes.

So it looks like great news all-around. Thanks ANet!

wetwillyhip

wetwillyhip

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

USA, Southern California, Orange County

Tyrian Elements [TyE]

R/Mo

wow, HoM was by far one of the few worst mistakes and tragedies that has ever hit Gws! I'm so glad to see all this in development changes! that is RAD. The only thing I would like to see more is more variety for the weapon of valor monument. I know they added tormented weapons, and thats surely a start! but I would like to see if we can add so many more valuable skinned weapons that we have worked so hard to get! Like greens, and maybe HoM could detect only certain skinned weapons that are gold, such as zodiacs, celestials, crystaline, chaos, storm, eternal, etc! that would really make it perfect for me Great UPDATE though! i love at least that something is happening!

Nessar

Nessar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

West Siiiiiiiiiiiiiide

Gwen Has A Thing For [Pyre]

Good job anet 8D

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

Much improved, especially account wide.

Shame I can't display the high end weapons I actually use.

sph0nz

sph0nz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

none.

W/

Epic win.

So if I have multiple legendary survivors, putting all of them in the HoM is worthless, and the only good reason to have multiple legendary survivors is to max titles on multiple characters?

I think I wasted a shitton of my time.

meneer123

meneer123

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

X-Universe [XU]

This is absolutely freaking brilliant. I always stayed away from it and this was one of the main reasons for it, now I will start working to fill it up.

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

So wait... if I have five characters and put four minis, per character, into the Monument of Devotion, it'll total the 20 "needed" to complete that section of the Hall of Monuments under the "account" variation, right?

If so, then I'm more than happy about this update... whenever it plans to be implemented, of course...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalendraf
I also suspect that some mini-pet prices may plummet.
I might finally get to buy a mini Water Djinn without the need of Ectoplasm or Zaishen Keys!

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Wonderful!

I think now might be the time to sell those two armbraces I've been holding onto.

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

This is great news, lets wait for the update to see how it all turns out.

TechnoSword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

International SuperStars

W/Mo

Does this mean I could create a new char get legendary survivor and make another and get Legendary Defender of Ascalon and then shove them into my hom and delete the new chars? If so Im getting my farm on right away lol

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

A very good update. If this works like I think it will, the only monument I don't have complete is Valor (and I never will) but even that should net some GW2 unlocks.

Monk of Demise

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

Atlanta, GA

Droknars Arena Dogs

Mo/R

I'm still a little confused. Can I partially fill each monumen on different characters to make a complete monument? I get the account wide transfer to GW2, but still not sure if I need to for examples craft all the weapons on one toon or if i can make some on one and some on another and have the monument be considered full. My understanding was that some the the "unlocks" would require a full monument (ie all 11 weapons). Is this true or would having a partial monument give partial unlocks?

Very impressed with overall concept of the update but still a little confused abou the details. (Have not looked a wiki for more info yet as i cannot access it from work).

Father of The Son of God

Father of The Son of God

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

B(r, sun) where r > 0

Could someone pm me the answer to my question below? I never read through these big threads.

Quote:
Currently, the Monument to Valor only allows the display of Destroyer weapons. Adding support for Tormented weapons will allow us to give players more options for what they want to display (and unlock for Guild Wars 2)

So stuff we put into HoM will be unlocked for GW2.

Question:
Does this confirm that we'll be able to bring armor skins/minis/pets from GW1 into GW2?

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Wait, it looks like a decent update.
...

!!
Now just change all grind based titles to acc based, k?

Shakti

Shakti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Home...

Vier Reiter [Vier]

This is coolness covered in awesomesauce with a side of kick ass

lovin' this, thanks and rock on anet

Lest121

Lest121

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Army of Darkness

A/Mo

Great Job Anet.

EroChrono

EroChrono

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Netherlands

[WitB]

W/

Hmm while they are working on the HoM, this might also be the time to change the re-arranging option. The current button just sucks, drag & drop titles/items of your choice would be much better!

Kotetsu Rain

Kotetsu Rain

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Utopia

D/

GG Anet. You make my heart go boom boom boom

Seriously though good idea. A lot of elitist will cry here and there but the majority of the GW community will love it.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

The mind boggles...

What's next? Auction House?

Lest121

Lest121

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Army of Darkness

A/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kotetsu Rain
GG Anet. You make my heart go boom boom boom

Seriously though good idea. A lot of elitist will cry here and there but the majority of the GW community will love it.
What do you expect? this game is loaded with cry baby assholes.

Grunntar

Grunntar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregslot
Isnt the purpose of the title make the PLAYER kill all enemies in hard mode at one continent?
I think that you are confusing the vanquisher title, which is specific to a single character, and the benefits that you get from the HoM, which is shared by all future GW2 characters. (And has no affect on other GW characters.)

If you get a title on Character A, he/she can wear that title in the game, and transfer it to all future GW2 characters. If you don't have that same title on Character B, he/she can't wear it in the game. But his/her lack of that same title doesn't affect GW2 characters, since Character A already unlocked it in your HoM.

- Grunntar

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

Elitist? You cant expect ANYONE to have more then one GWAMM character, that's just not humanly possible.

mazza558

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

So let's get this straight... am I reading this correctly?

- Some titles are account wide now?
- If you have one title on one character and another on the other, you can combine them into one HoM?
- If you have multiple prestige armors over multiple characters, you can combine them into one HoM (but you only see the armor that your current character has unlocked)?

If so, very, very nice update! I have 8 characters, and now I can give them all equal attention by aiming for different titles! This is very cool as I can now designate a powerful character as "the vanquisher", my permaform 'sin as "the explorer", etc.

ahem.

ahem.

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quebec, Canada

R/

That's an interesting update

Kahlindra

Kahlindra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

England

Anthems to the Welkin at [Dusk]. 2 man guilds are king.

N/Me

Hmm, we're getting the thing Gaile told us we were totally illogical and selfish to want?

Super :-)

Avai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

ANet loves me, this I know.

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by dev update
Account-based Accomplishments

(Please note that the armor statues in the Monument to Resilience will reflect the appearance of the character currently in the Hall of Monuments, not the character that originally displayed that armor set.)
Anybody else pissed that they have multiple copies of Asuran/Norn/other elite armors?

Overall though I'm pleased.

Rift

Rift

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

Canada

Virtual Love [kiSu]

I think some of you are reading too much into this.

It will be possible to view titles from different characters, but it doesn't mean these titles are magiacally shared between all characters in GW1. GW2, on the other hand...

Anyways, sounds like cool changes ^^

Ashgar

Ashgar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

The best update since the storage enlargement imho.

Zesbeer

Zesbeer

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

LLJK

very vague though if they go the right direction with it and don't limit those who chose to go account based vs non it will be awesome i think.

graverobber2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Order of the Flameseekers [NL]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Targren
Yes! Legendary Survivor - Ursan Mode! Just create 1400 characters and get 1k each!
legendary survivor should be character based
vanquisher can be easily done account based: if one character has vanquished an area, it counts as vanquished for all characters

I think they should do treasure & wisdom title account based aswell
I hate always have to switch to my warrior for identifying golds and not beeing able to use lockpicks/key because i have to save them up for my warrior

here's what i think they should make account based:
  • Drunkard (some ppl use it for their dwarven skills)
  • Treasure Hunter (see above)
  • Wisdom (see above)
  • Sweet Tooth (Some sweets provide a bonus ingame, so every character can use them and they don't have to be saved up for use by a certain character)
  • Party Animal (we already have Drunkard & Sweet tooth, so we can just add this one)
  • Vanquisher (see above)

Should stay character based: (but can ofcourse be added to account-HoM)
  • Survivor (unique for the character, accountbased would be to easy)
  • Legendary Defender Of Ascalon (unique for the character, accountbased would be to easy)
  • Maxed titles (there should be some challenge to gaining r6)
  • Sunspear, Lightbringer, Asura, Deldrimor, Ebon Vanguard, Norn (be honest, these aren't too hard to gain, they just take some time)
  • Master of the North (the vanquished areas DO count accountwide, dungeons, missions and map exploration is characterbased)
  • Protector, Guardian & Legendary Guardian
  • Carthographer
  • Skill Hunter (so that it won't be TOO easy to get elite and to let elite tomes keep their value)

Titles in the account-based list should be added (for example: my warrior has 350 ID's on his wisdom title, my monk has 100 ID's, so the total should be 450)
That's also one of the reasons i didn't add protector & carthographer to the accountbased list => (for example: if someone has completely carthographed an area, it should be available to all character to see it completely, even if they didn't visit that area yet, same for missions)

Zesbeer

Zesbeer

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

LLJK

Quote:
(Please note that the armor statues in the Monument to Resilience will reflect the appearance of the character currently in the Hall of Monuments, not the character that originally displayed that armor set.)
what exactly are they saying by this? dose this mean that it dosnt matter if you got 5 sets of elite armor?

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zesbeer
what exactly are they saying by this? dose this mean that it dosnt matter if you got 5 sets of elite armor?
I think it's just a matter of how you see the monument when you're standing there. It will still be functionally the same, but it will look different depending on which character you currently have in the HoM.

I'm unclear on how they're saying the display will work, though. I get the impression that if you put Armor A in the HoM with Character A, then come in with Character B, you'll see Armor A, but on Character B.

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Hmm, one question on the "Account-based Accomplishments" part.

Let's say I have character X, character Y and character Z in GW1 and i decide to make my HoM reflect the achievements of all 3 (meaning account based). Then, in GW2, I decide to make 4 new characters. Can I give those 4 all the bonuses from the achievements of characters X,Y and Z or can I only give one of my GW2 characters those bonuses?

sibelang

sibelang

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Nottofar Island

Sekai o Oni Moriageru Tame no Suzumiya Haruhi no Dan [SOS-dan]

nice 1st SF sin Buff now this Torment etc...
seems anet want every1 to get their torment or etc

so far so good...
now since the onyx and diamond and slab are available on merchant (for destroyer weapon).... pls pls add gemstones there too xD
or at least let the gemstones drop from dungeon endchest

so no need DoA haha... and i know many ppl will love it, but some other will QQ this xD

me luvs watzhin ppl QQin xD

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow
Hmm, one question on the "Account-based Accomplishments" part.

Let's say I have character X, character Y and character Z in GW1 and i decide to make my HoM reflect the achievements of all 3 (meaning account based). Then, in GW2, I decide to make 4 new characters. Can I give those 4 all the bonuses from the achievements of characters X,Y and Z or can I only give one of my GW2 characters those bonuses?
You can give all of them those bonuses.

2. Hall of Monuments accomplishments will be sent to Guild Wars 2 by account. All Hall of Monuments accomplishments for any Guild Wars character on your account will be available to every Guild Wars 2 character on your account.

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

I'm still wondering, though, will the "unlocks" at GW2 be monument-specific, or do you have to have a full Hall to have the unlocks?

Dark-NighT

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

This is absolutely Fantastic news and i welcome it with all my chars.

This is great for people that cant stick to just one character.

Nomme Moon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

I'm impressed. Very good decision to make it work this way.

Good job, Anet.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Presler
This is absolutely Fantastic news and i welcome it with all my chars.

This is great for people that cant stick to just one character.
Did someone mention me? :3