Dev Update: Hall of Monuments Changes

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thizzle
That is a fantastic idea.
It is. Now if only Anet would listen.

And show what our pets REALLY ARE instead of that idiotic "Animal Companion" statue...

komma

komma

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

None

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cheers for the update...delay to HoM update = no big deal.

Regina Buenaobra

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

There's no "delay" to the HoM update, as it wasn't scheduled for this month anyway.

Stuart444

Stuart444

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Alexandria, Scotland

The Charter Vanguard [CV]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
There's no "delay" to the HoM update, as it wasn't scheduled for this month anyway.
Thanks for saying so.

Are you allowed to tell us when it is scheduled for? If not no big deal ^^ just curious

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

When it's done?

Uh oh, it might be Duke Nukem Forever! 10 years later...

Xx_Sorin_xX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
There's no "delay" to the HoM update, as it wasn't scheduled for this month anyway.
Ah..sorry for the "misunderstanding".

Cherng Butter

Cherng Butter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Maryland

The Mirror Of Reason [SNOW]

E/Mo

Aww, I busted my butt to raise enough funds to buy an ambrace today too

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherng Butter
Aww, I busted my butt to raise enough funds to buy an ambrace today too
Well, you'll still have it for when the HoM update DOES come.

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

If titles are to be account-wide, I might get to work on my survivor ranger and (dear me) LDoA mesmer in pre.

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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There has not been an announced date for the HoM update; you can see that right there on the first page, and in the dev update.

Quote:
We are not able to announce a specific date at which these changes will be released, but we're explaining them now so that players can choose their play patterns accordingly.
They just announced that there would be an update in August, and more recently, that there will be one tomorrow.

Cherng Butter

Cherng Butter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Maryland

The Mirror Of Reason [SNOW]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
Well, you'll still have it for when the HoM update DOES come.
True, so I'm not too annoyed

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

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Well can i ask a small favor Regena, maybe a weeks notice of when the real HoM update is coming out. That way we don't get over hyped about an update similar to this one. Also I do have two small questions:

Will I need to take my perma pre LDoA to the HoM to display that statue, or will I be able to display it on one of my post characters?

And there are 12 different skins of torment weapons, unlike the 11 skins of destoryer (there 2 different bow skin). If you wanted to put all weapons into hall, will you just need just one bow or a small bow (recurve, horn, short) and a large (flat, long)?

Thank you for the heads up, if the update came out with this hype, it be a major let down.

Regina Buenaobra

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

Game updates are currently scheduled for the first week of the month. When I know about the HoM update and when they feel I can talk about it publicly, I will let you all know. In the meantime, I'll let them know about your desire to be informed of it prior to the change going live.

As to your other questions, they are still working on the specifics, so I don't have anything to say about that right now.

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

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ty Regina, U R Da Best
I willl be waiting with open ears.

Lyonette

Lyonette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

[PiG]

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this is great, a good move by anet so players won't feel so restricted to play only a few of their characters

does this mean, every one of my characters will be able to show Obsidian armor in my hall if it's account based, even though that particular character hasn't got it?

and just a wee little rant... i was really hoping they were going to change the "customised" thing to "dedicated" with the weapons, so at least we'd be able to use those weapons on other characters, but oh well, i'm still pretty pleased with these changes

Sjeng

Sjeng

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

in my GH

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyonette
this is great, a good move by anet so players won't feel so restricted to play only a few of their characters

does this mean, every one of my characters will be able to show Obsidian armor in my hall if it's account based, even though that particular character hasn't got it?

and just a wee little rant... i was really hoping they were going to change the "customised" thing to "dedicated" with the weapons, so at least we'd be able to use those weapons on other characters, but oh well, i'm still pretty pleased with these changes
In reply:
- indeed a good move
- yes, when travelling to the "account based HoM" you can see ALL your elite armors across your entire account, in the form of the character you are currently visiting the HoM with (at least, that's what I understand). Which has made me wonder what 15k Tyrian will look like on Sins, Dervs, Paras and Rits. And also how 15k Tyrian is going to work for the professions that have 5 elite types, and the ones that have 4 (Monk, Warrior vs. Mesmer, Ranger for example).
- I hope so too, but then again, you can still just customize your destroyer and/or tormented weapons to the character you want to use it on, as the HoM will be account based anyway. My characters will get 1 or 2 Tormented weapons each, which in total will result in 11 different weapons, spread out across characters, completing the account wide HoM. (well... eventually that is ^^).

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

I love it when people speculate about how the different monuments will work. You don't know that will be how the armor monument is going to work. It could very well be a change to the displayed model...if I have Vabbian on my warrior, and send my Dervish to the global HoM, it's probably not going to display dervish vabbian on my character, as it would be a faux pas as my dervish does not HAVE vabbian.

zomg, here are screenshots of obsidian, vabbian and every other elite armor on all of my characters....in HoM, when only my warrior collected them all. Fail.

illidan009

illidan009

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

Volterra, Italy

A/

MY GOD good thing I read this shit before I began the process of transfering everything to my derv...damn ANET did some thing good!

Lordhelmos

Lordhelmos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sentients of Shadow (noir)

Me/E

I'm wondering if I can get an oxygen tank while waiting on this HoM update, I'm currently out of breath.

You should know as a Community Representative that people's patience only goes so far. I kind of feel like we are getting the carrot on a stick approach to alot of these issues.

birdfoot

birdfoot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Singapore

Ordo Chaotika

W/Mo

If the Monument of Resilience would work like an armor rack (i.e. armor storage), it'd be awesome.

SpotJorge

SpotJorge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Europe

Temple Of Love

R/E

If they could put some color fish or a mesmer in swimsuit in pool i would apreciate it

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

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This sucks, the HOM update was the one I was waiting for and it didn't happen. I went nuts trying to save up to get an armbrace and a bow to put in there so my HOM would actually have something in each section (don't like Destroyer bows) and now I still can't do it. "Only the greatest of weapons can be displayed here." I don't think a certain weapon skin/type makes it "greater" than others. If anything, any weapon should be allowed to be added, or at least ones that come customized like BMP ones or something. I don't know what the "monster" update was supposed to be but since it wasn't what I wanted I couldn't care less. The only good thing I've seen so far is the spider tonic.

aaje vhanli

aaje vhanli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by birdfoot
If the Monument of Resilience would work like an armor rack (i.e. armor storage), it'd be awesome.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter
Now if only Anet would listen.

And show what our pets REALLY ARE instead of that idiotic "Animal Companion" statue...
I agree. These are the only two additional HoM changes that I would lobby for (that aren't already planned).

captain_carter

captain_carter

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

England

The X Viles [TXV]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
This sucks, the HOM update was the one I was waiting for and it didn't happen. I went nuts trying to save up to get an armbrace and a bow to put in there so my HOM would actually have something in each section (don't like Destroyer bows) and now I still can't do it. "Only the greatest of weapons can be displayed here." I don't think a certain weapon skin/type makes it "greater" than others. If anything, any weapon should be allowed to be added, or at least ones that come customized like BMP ones or something. I don't know what the "monster" update was supposed to be but since it wasn't what I wanted I couldn't care less. The only good thing I've seen so far is the spider tonic.
We were informed via several methods that the HoM changes would not be in this update.
Even if we had not been given this information beforehand, it was only assumption and speculation that suggested this update would include the HoM changes.

Don't blame ANet because you were wrong.

Channel_V93

Channel_V93

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Stop Stealing [agro]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
This sucks, the HOM update was the one I was waiting for and it didn't happen. I went nuts trying to save up to get an armbrace and a bow to put in there so my HOM would actually have something in each section (don't like Destroyer bows) and now I still can't do it. "Only the greatest of weapons can be displayed here." I don't think a certain weapon skin/type makes it "greater" than others. If anything, any weapon should be allowed to be added, or at least ones that come customized like BMP ones or something. I don't know what the "monster" update was supposed to be but since it wasn't what I wanted I couldn't care less. The only good thing I've seen so far is the spider tonic.
Can you stop whining? Even if you could put them in right now you wouldn't get the benefits until GW2.

Lady Syve

Lady Syve

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

PWNZILLA team

X Legion Of Doom X [LOD]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
This sucks, the HOM update was the one I was waiting for and it didn't happen. I went nuts trying to save up to get an armbrace and a bow to put in there so my HOM would actually have something in each section (don't like Destroyer bows) and now I still can't do it. "Only the greatest of weapons can be displayed here." I don't think a certain weapon skin/type makes it "greater" than others. If anything, any weapon should be allowed to be added, or at least ones that come customized like BMP ones or something. I don't know what the "monster" update was supposed to be but since it wasn't what I wanted I couldn't care less. The only good thing I've seen so far is the spider tonic.
It's actually a really good thing that you bought your armbrace before the update because they've risen in price since the nerf to ursan. It'll be a little while before people figure out the next DoA build.

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Syve
It's actually a really good thing that you bought your armbrace before the update because they've risen in price since the nerf to ursan. It'll be a little while before people figure out the next DoA build.
there is allready many of em, just not for pugs

Lady Syve

Lady Syve

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

PWNZILLA team

X Legion Of Doom X [LOD]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleikki
there is allready many of em, just not for pugs
That's true, and when I said "DoA build" I meant one that the average pug could use (like ursan and the previous trinity build). Since there is only a small number of guilds that can create an effective build and use it consistently, the number of armbraces coming into the market will be drastically reduced. Until a new fool-proof build for pugs is created, the armbrace prices can only go up. Even then, the success rate and speed of the new build will determine the prices of the armbraces. If it's as fast or faster than the old ursan build (though I doubt that it could be done much faster) the prices may become lower again.

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
...
While you're in a question-answering mood, is there any hope of getting Order of Undeath reverted for PvE? While the change made some sense for PvP, it took an excellent skill for PvE and made it into worse than garbage. I think it's a perfect candidate for utilizing the PvE/PvP Split.

[Edit: I realize belatedly that I've posted in the wrong thread. I meant to post here. Doh!]

Rainbow Ftw

Rainbow Ftw

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

England

...

A/W

any chance my PvP char's titles could be displayed? And not PvP only titles like commander but my PvP char's drunkard title for example?

hooded player

hooded player

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

in the land of butt ass freezing weather

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainbow Ftw
And not PvP only titles like commander but my PvP char's drunkard title for example?

WHY EVEN GET IT ON A PVP!?

Kikuta

Kikuta

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Western Australia

[ICE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by hooded player
WHY EVEN GET IT ON A PVP!?
Because some players don't bother with PvE?

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Yeah some Pvp fellas got zkeys = got firewater = got drunk and never bothering with PvE

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

then why would they need a monument?
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netniwk

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmithyBen
then why would they need a monument?
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to carry over to GW2,like everyone else...

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

Can PvP only characters put stuff in the HoM without going PvE?

Xx_Sorin_xX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf
Can PvP only characters put stuff in the HoM without going PvE?
i doubt it.

need more letters

Vague Twilight

Vague Twilight

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

You've probably never heard of it.

[DOVE]

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Please please please please please please please PLEASE PLEASE change the Valor Monument -- I think that's the name of the weapons one -- to change the functionality of "Customized" to "Dedicated." I want to fill my primary's HoM completely even though I could have a full "account hall" by Dedicating weapons on different characters.

Is there really that much harm in making Destroyer/someday Tormented weapons available for my ACCOUNT not just a single character? The answer is no. There really isn't.

-FengShuiDove

LitchKing

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2008

When is this coming? 10 years from now?

Free Runner

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

Quote:
Originally Posted by LitchKing
When is this coming? 10 years from now?
When its ready.