Dev Update: Hall of Monuments Changes

Originally Posted by cellardweller

I'm in the same boat as you having completed 2 halls (and was working on 3rd) but feel very differently. Regardless of whether I get jipped by the change, the HoM as is is now is far worse than the HoM as it is outlined by the Dev Update. Yes, it would have to have known that this was going to happen earlier, but it that doesn't change the nature of the change itself.

Originally Posted by Duncan Idaho

But that HoM update definetely kills the achievements one could have completed. Maybe I will be told I am kind of an egoist and/or vanitous (correct spelling ?), but I mourn the fact that my good skills will in the end prove useless.

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

July is an unusual month due to the Dragon Festival special event. We're going to push the Dragon Festival live later today, but the regular, beginning-of-the-month update, which would normally have fallen today, will instead take place next week. This means that the tonic update, Xunlai points, etc. will take place next week. You will have four weeks of the July tonic (June's tonic was in the chest for five weeks).

Originally Posted by heroajax1

I don't know about the rest of you, but I think account based transfers to GW2 kind of sucks. Based on the OP information, all of the transerable titles except lucky/unlucky are PvP based. Now, I realize GW is a PvP oriented game, but I worked my butt off ... for no reason now. IMHO, every title I accomplish that can be displayed should be transferable. Otherwise, what's the point?

Originally Posted by heroajax1

I don't know about the rest of you, but I think account based transfers to GW2 kind of sucks. Based on the OP information, all of the transerable titles except lucky/unlucky are PvP based. Now, I realize GW is a PvP oriented game, but I worked my butt off ... for no reason now. IMHO, every title I accomplish that can be displayed should be transferable. Otherwise, what's the point?

Originally Posted by Stockholm

As far as we know NO titles will be transfered, we will get a reward for each "unlocked Accomplishment" in HoM.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Hall_of_Monuments

Please read the little info there is before making assumptions.

Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

No it clearly states here that special titles may be granted.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hall_of_Monuments

Originally Posted by Duncan Idaho

Contrary to most of the players who gave their opinion here, I find that HoM update awful and most of all deceptive ...

Let me explain myself :

For "casual" players, this update is definetely a boon. People don't need to complete titles and focus on the same charater.
But for Hardcore Gamers, which I am, this update means the waste of hours of game. My Necromancer is currently r6 kobd, my sin has maxed 27 titles and my monk has reached her 16 maxed titles. Of course, most of you can imagine the time and money investment for a r6 kobd, so I believe that you can easily understand how cheated and decieved I feel.

Most explicitely, I have wasted hours and money on my sin and my monk, now that I learn that all the achievements made with my sin are completely useless. I was glad to know the Canthan festival was approching, since it is the best moment to complete the drunkard/sweet title. But today I feel like it would be completely stupid to do that with my sin, since my N has already completed these titles. I don't think I will spend money on sweets nor festivals finally ...

Moreover, that update will allow players to put tormented weapons in the HoM. My god ! I could have used all the money i've spent on my sin and my monk (elite capture, lockpicks, consumables -no way to go in DoA rather than in ursan) to craft tormented weapons ...

With that update, not only I find that I have wasted time on other chars, but I also learn that I have wasted a lot of money ... So all in all, the only thing I could say is that I have the growing feeling that, trying to allow every player to achieve everything in the game, devs have averaged the level through mediocrity (ursans, consumables, and now that HoM update). I want to make it clear, would HoM have been a "GW1-only" thing, ok why not. But the fact is that, being directly linked to GW2, it would be even faster to give all the players who had a license to play GW1 the same bonuses, advantages or whatever.

One last thing : if u take into account the incredibly hard-to-complete, time-consuming titles such as Factions titles, and the incredibly easy-to-finish so-called "elite areas" (which are nothing but elites today : what a joke, 2h DoA, less than 1h HM FoW/UW), GW ends up being another "farming game" : ecto farming, gemstone farming, FFF/HFFF (one F means Farming).

Well I guess i have understood : Mediocrity ftw, elitism is evil ...

Originally Posted by pamelf

That's interesting. Conflicting info there. I'd like to know which is accurate. How do you know which has or hasn't been updated?

Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin

Just a note, this update can prove HIGHLY beneficial to those who don't have a ranger as their "main".

To spawn the Rainbow Phoenix a r2 KoABD is required, but if the player's main isn't the ranger, they can't get it. This could get around that issue.

Originally Posted by Tadzio

How about changing your secondary prof to ranger ?

Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin

Just a note, this update can prove HIGHLY beneficial to those who don't have a ranger as their "main".

To spawn the Rainbow Phoenix a r2 KoABD is required, but if the player's main isn't the ranger, they can't get it. This could get around that issue.

Originally Posted by odly

As I understand it :

We no longer need to get a full monument of armours,weapons, heroes or minipets on a single character.
I have 5 characters with one elite armour each. So for GW2's sake my elite armour monument is full.
The same counts for the weapons etc...

Originally Posted by Artisan Archer

It's not conflicting, it just means that players who didn't have an GW 1 account before GW 2 came out won't be able to 'transfer' stuff through the HoM. (They won't be selling it anymore, highly likely.)

Players who already owned a GW 1 account will still be able to 'transfer' stuff through there HoM, even after they bought a GW 2 account.

Originally Posted by aaje vhanli

That's what happens when you make the choice to grind out titles instead of doing things that you genuinely enjoy in the game. People seem to forget how to play a game for entertainment.

Originally Posted by Stockholm

There is going to be such an outcry when people find out what these rewards really are.
One thing you can count on is it will NOT be anything you can use in game.

Originally Posted by Arduinna

There are people who enjoy grinding.

Originally Posted by Tutis Evito

EDIT:
What is sicking is the fact that they will add tormented weps, and i have 11+ destroyer weps....which are customized....they are worthless...i cannot even sell to buy tormented..so what are they going to do? Keep the same process for tormented? You pay 100k+xxe dedicate it, its becomes customised and thats it...worthless to the open market.

At least remove customization

Originally Posted by Lady Syve

I believe the word you want is "vain." Anyway, although I think that this update is really good, I do sympathize with your lost work and achievements. It must be a real disappointing for you to see all that work seemingly lost. Though perhaps Anet will realize that this is the case with many people and will reward you for it somehow? It's not certain the duplicate achievements will be ignored.

Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

My guess is you will be able to use any achievement just once on the account and after that its used. But if you have say two protectors perhaps you get to use it twice. It won’t be as lopsided as people are hoping. No one with a stable of half-baked toons are going over into GW2 and rolling a stable of leet toons using some sort of tortured math and logic.

Originally Posted by fireflyry

I'd be more than happy with this.

Having one main char with the majority of rewards, again assuming I will actually want them, suits me fine although it would be horrible to use them up on a char only to regret it down the track yet delaying reward allocation would obviously solve this to a large degree.

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

It should be obvious that the account-based HoM will not reward repetition, so multiple copies of the same thing will count only once.
It's the best solution that makes the most sense and I'm really happy they will do it this way.

Originally Posted by bhavv

But if I have 1x elite canthan, 1x vabbi and 2x elite kurzic so far, that would only count as three sets so far? Thats not quite fair because kurzick armors are my favorites.