Dev Update: Hall of Monuments Changes

Lord-UWR

Lord-UWR

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Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc
We'll definitely need to see how this gets implemented...I have a feeling that not every accomplishment will be transferrable to the account-based monument.
Well, get rid of your feeling. If you bothered to read the post, and look at Wiki, then you'd know that EVERY Title you achieve, along with every other monument you put in your CHARACTER's HoM can be transferred to your ACCOUNT HoM.

aaje vhanli

aaje vhanli

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Originally Posted by Arduinna
There are people who enjoy grinding.
Absolutely. I enjoy grind at times also. My post is in reference to those who claim they do not enjoy grinding yet complain that they are "forced" to grind; which simply is not the case. In these cases, people are grinding simply for the foreseen reward of such a task, rather than for the pleasure or enjoyment out of the gaming experience.

fireflyry, while I appreciate your perspective on my statement (and it is not entirely incorrect), I was emphasizing that most people who are unhappy with this HoM change are people of said complaints (above).

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Originally Posted by Lord-UWR
Well, get rid of your feeling. If you bothered to read the post, and look at Wiki, then you'd know that EVERY Title you achieve, along with every other monument you put in your CHARACTER's HoM can be transferred to your ACCOUNT HoM.
I absolutely agree with this statement, though I feel it is worth pointing out:

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Originally Posted by aaje vhanli
I wouldn't anticipate KoaBD being made account-based because this title is earned from the linking of a single character's allotted achievements. To make it account-based would completely revamp the concept of the title. I'm not saying that it is not a possible change (what isn't a possible change with aNet?), but it seems very unlikely. I do expect, however, based on the official announcement that one character's earnings of KoaBD will be visible in a HoM with account-based viewing activated.

Source: HoM: Account Based or Toon Based? Thread

aaje vhanli

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fireflyry

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Originally Posted by aaje vhanli
fireflyry, while I appreciate your perspective on my statement (and it is not entirely incorrect), I was emphasizing that most people who are unhappy with this HoM change are people of said complaints (above).
Fair call and I agree.

puffzilla

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Wonder if we'll see theses changes tonight. :fingurescrossed:

Stuart444

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Originally Posted by puffzilla
Wonder if we'll see theses changes tonight. :fingurescrossed:
haha, I doubt it but we can hope =(

aaje vhanli

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I doubt it. While I'd love to see it, I don't expect it to come so soon.

SirSausage

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Just be patient guys and you will be rewarded.
If you can't hold out any longer, just play another game.

Pleikki

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we'll see is there update tonight i guess not

bhavv

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Does anyone know if they are going to make EOTN rep titles account based?

credit

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Originally Posted by bhavv
Does anyone know if they are going to make EOTN rep titles account based?
I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Tender Wolf

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Does anyone have any idea when these changes will be implemented? I just spent a bundle on a Tormented bow to add it (looks better than Destroyer) and it still hasn't worked. So does anyone know when we can add the weapons at least? Thanks.

Lonesamurai

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GG ANet, thanks for the continued support

Free Runner

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
Does anyone have any idea when these changes will be implemented? I just spent a bundle on a Tormented bow to add it (looks better than Destroyer) and it still hasn't worked. So does anyone know when we can add the weapons at least? Thanks.
Within the next few months i would say. It could be with the skill balance next week or six weeks from now. You'll know when it has happened from the Update notes and the rise in QQ threads here.

Tender Wolf

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Free Runner
Within the next few months i would say. It could be with the skill balance next week or six weeks from now. You'll know when it has happened from the Update notes and the rise in QQ threads here.
Ah okay, well some are talking about it being the update for Thursday or so, hopefully then. I know many people, including myself, have been anticipating it. *cheers*

Star Gazer

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this sounds great and all...but who bets it will just be a title? i bet $50 on that.

Toxage

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About time they added my suggestions.

DarklingKiller

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Have they even implemented this yet?

pamelf

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No we're guessing it wil be in next weeks 'monster update'.

strcpy

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
Ah okay, well some are talking about it being the update for Thursday or so, hopefully then. I know many people, including myself, have been anticipating it. *cheers*
Lots of people are making crap up - really. It may be Thursday, it may be a year from now. There is nothing from them other than "in the future". Some are hoping for this Thursday, I think largely because of the amount of time from the last update. However maybe this Thursday is a Xunlai House (auction house or a Bazaar), maybe it is the "real" fix to SF, maybe it will be nothing. Other than simply guessing we know nothing.

Chances are this Thursday is either going to be nothing or skill balances - it could even be small bug fixes that only .0025% of the population care about (and causing much QQ'ing). The time from the last update is pretty much irrelevant as to how big the update is, yet too many seem to think it means some significant update is coming up. Large updates are done when they are done, an extra week or two where they felt no skill updates are needed doesn't mean that a major update is coming up.

Meat Axe

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Originally Posted by strcpy
The time from the last update is pretty much irrelevant as to how big the update is, yet too many seem to think it means some significant update is coming up.
Actually, the reason most people think a large update is coming up is because of this post on the wiki, on Linsey Murdock's journal page:
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Originally Posted by Linsey Murdock
Thursday, July 31st 2008

I have a level 20 of every profession now which is cool. Been farming whenever I have the time. Mostly Chaos Plains perma-SF or Ranger FoW Forest Farm. I have enough ecto and 1/3 of the shards I need to get my Derv her FoW skirt. Still no where near enough cash to get my Warrior her Vabbian though. At least I finally realized that I like my Necro best in Shing Jea so I don't have to get her Vabbian too.

Work has been crazy for me this week. Trying to get everything ready for the next build, which barring complications, should be out next week. Plus working on getting things rolling on the stuff planned for next month. Right now I'm working on writing up the Dev Update for all the changes incoming. I don't know if I can actually explain all the thoughts behind the stuff we are doing, but we'll see. If people have questions, which I'm sure they will, I would be happy to answer them here once it's Live. Man, it's going to be one monster of an update. Should be interesting. Heh.

I've started to get more and more messaged in game from random people which can be both cool and awkward. I hope people aren't expecting me to remember everyone I talk to throughout the day. My friends list has been full for a long time so I can't really add more people to be able to recognize all the alts they have too. I'm not unfamiliar with talking to people I don't know, just not when they act like they know me. That part is where the weirdness comes from. Oh, and for those people that do message me in game, I have taken to idling a lot on Live, so if you message me and I don't get back to you for a while it's because I just didn't notice since I was off working. Same goes from if I am not super chatty. Just trying to get work done.

Oh and it cracks me up when someone messages me asking who I am cuz I'm on their friends list and they don't remember if they played with me or not. One guy was VERY insistent that he ONLY adds people he plays with. I haven't pugged anything in a very very long time so I assured him that it was highly unlikely that we have played together. That wasn't really something he was willing to accept. *shrug*
I think it's safe to say that it'll be more than just a skill balance update. To see how much more, we'll just have to wait.

Commander Ryker

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Well, I still want any weapons I choose to be in my HoM.

DarkNecrid

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander Ryker
Well, I still want any weapons I choose to be in my HoM.
That would be cool but probably wouldn't work with how they are prolly planning their HoM reward system.

Someone could put like 15 pre-searing weapons in there and get the best weapon unlock, etc.

pumpkin pie

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what if I have like 10 fully completed characters later on, do I get more rewards then those lazy people who don't want to bring their 10 characters thru the whole thing?

:P

"Guild Wars 2 Unlocks

Aside from the switch to account-based accomplishments, this has not changed. You will be able to add to the Hall of Monuments in the original Guild Wars even after the release of Guild Wars 2, and any newly unlocked accomplishments will then be visible in Guild Wars 2. We will provide more information about the exact rewards for each Hall of Monuments accomplishment as we get closer to the release of Guild Wars 2. "

when ever we hear more news on the HoM the closer we will get to GW2 release??

Nainoa

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
what if I have like 10 fully completed characters later on, do I get more rewards then those lazy people who don't want to bring their 10 characters thru the whole thing?
By lazy you mean someone that does not want to waste their life on a video game filling up 10 HoMs. Unfortunately all your "hard work" will not give you any benefit over a player who did not do a Hall of Monuments. You will probably just get a "uniquely" skinned item with the same stats as what someone new to GW will be able to access. Perhaps a minipet or some other token for your hard work which provides no actual benefit.

Ate of DK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
when ever we hear more news on the HoM the closer we will get to GW2 release??
You'll have to wait till late 2009, early 2010 for GW2 release.

Lady Syve

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nainoa
By lazy you mean someone that does not want to waste their life on a video game filling up 10 HoMs. Unfortunately all your "hard work" will not give you any benefit over a player who did not do a Hall of Monuments. You will probably just get a "uniquely" skinned item with the same stats as what someone new to GW will be able to access. Perhaps a minipet or some other token for your hard work which provides no actual benefit.
Even though that's all I've ever been expecting out of the HoM, those skins and non-beneficial rewards had better be damned awesome. I'll be so pissed off if the skins are ugly or unimpressive compared to what the general public can get in GW2.

Something like the Divine Aura of the Prophesies CE would be really nice too. Or even a special dance that only HoM accounts can use would be great! ^_^

Regina Buenaobra

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The Hall of Monuments changes will not be in tomorrow's update.

Shadow Kurd

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
The Hall of Monuments changes will not be in tomorrow's update.
Regina FTW!
Can you please tell people here you do care. And when the update is going to get release. Linsey already said it was done.

Lishy

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
The Hall of Monuments changes will not be in tomorrow's update.
CURSES!
AND I WOULD OF GOTTEN AWAY WITH IF IT TOO... IF IT WEREN'T FOR YOU MEDALING DEVELOPERS!!!!!!!!!!
Ha ha, hope you got the reference
Honestly, I am more excited about the skills update.

Nick Of Troy

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The Hall of Monuments changes will not be in tomorrow's update.

Thanks for the heads up, and awww

Arkantos

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People were expecting ANet to release the HoM update that fast?

Ha...ha. Thanks for letting us know, Regina.

Shadowmoon

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Well with the "Monster update" people were thinking it was the skill balance + HoM. Guess it just a skill balance, not so monsterous anymore.


Also if you remember they ended up changing the Armor Monument in one week after seeing all the QQ from the preview weekend. I think that why people thought a month was enough time:P. Also HoM is GW2 content afterall.

Mr Emu

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omg, she speaks!
PvP and PvE skill balances then?

Sigma Onkoron

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roflmao everyone was going around freaking out buying as many tormented items as they could. and then Anet speaks and then all the people start to QQ b/c " i spentz all meh monies on meh shield that looks so 1337" serves them right. I have had over 9000 pm's saying HoM isn't getting updated. And my response. soisiossoisoisosisoissoisoisosisoisosisois. (my roflcopter

Stuart444

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Do you hear that?

It's the sound of loads of QQers QQing because the speculation made them believe that this was defo coming in the next update.....and then they got crushed in one sentence >_>

I'm still rather interested in this next update, now that we know its not the HoM, what will be changing. I assume alot of skills, Linsey at one point inplied that there would be monster changing (which may mean the chaos planes monsters that people QQed about last time >_> )

Thanks for letting us know Regina

Thizzle

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander Ryker
Well, I still want any weapons I choose to be in my HoM.
That is a fantastic idea.

Mr. Undisclosed

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
The Hall of Monuments changes will not be in tomorrow's update.
Was a smart idea to announce that before the update went through, people who have put up a huge fuss.

Sarevok Thordin

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
The Hall of Monuments changes will not be in tomorrow's update.
D:
I was really wanting that update too.

Well, what CAN you tell us? I've been mashing F5 on the dev notes/update page most of the day.

DarkNecrid

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin
D:
I was really wanting that update too.

Well, what CAN you tell us? I've been mashing F5 on the dev notes/update page most of the day.
It's a MONSTER of an update.






lol.