So...no GW2 info at PAX. :(

DutchSmurf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
Some of you want Regina to communicate when there's actually something new to say. Well until GW2 there won't be much to talk about, so why does Anet have a CR?
Because she has other things to do too? Like helping organizing the events they go to. And updating the website (which I think she is doing too now). And tons of other things that come with the CR job.

People say Regina hasn't said much on the forums. But really, how many topics have there been lately that were worth replying on? The one about the mAT deserves a response. But it is weekend and normally there isn't a need for CR to be available then, so why would she be? And even if she would be working, what can she say? The people involved aren't working for sure, so she can't get information from them. Meaning all she has left is saying "we are sorry." Although Gaile might have expanded that to 500+ words, that is all she can say. And a post like that, without explanation or promises about further actions, would do more bad then good.
She replied on the Ursan (PvE balance) issue with all information she has. "We are looking on it." As much as she probably wants to, that is all she can say.

I asked before and I will just ask again. Except for posting "+1" every now and then. What do you actually want her to say?

Innocent

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

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Originally Posted by MMSDome
I might have thought Gaile wasn't good but compared to our current one she was amazing. We barelly even hear from regina.
You guys need to lay off Regina tbh. It's not really her fault that ANet doesn't give a damn. She's just doing her job, giving us what she's getting. Don't shoot the messenger.

Gun Pierson

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Originally Posted by DutchSmurf
Because she has other things to do too? Like helping organizing the events they go to. And updating the website (which I think she is doing too now). And tons of other things that come with the CR job.
They go to Leipzig to say nothing and will reach a couple of thousand people. The fan sites are visited by thousands of players every day. And on top of that they start with the wiki pages while elite forum sites are available here since day one.

Updating the website? They must be low on cash if a CR has to do the job of a webdesigner. And if you mean writing all the text, should be a walk in the park for a communication manager.

I'm wondering now, what comes with the CR job?
from the wiki:
'As CRM, Gaile served as liaison between players and the Dev Team and managed fan events, contests, and communications. She also coordinated website content, interfaced with the Support Teams, and oversaw global community fansite programs. She would sometimes go AFK during these visits to speak with Dev Team members to try to obtain answers to players' questions or to relay their comments. '

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Originally Posted by DutchSmurf
What do you actually want her to say?
That's an interesting question, need some time to think about it. What can she still do for us?

AKB48

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we'll just have to play the beta and see how good GW2 is then.

Fril Estelin

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Originally Posted by DutchSmurf
I asked before and I will just ask again. Except for posting "+1" every now and then. What do you actually want her to say?
Something along the lines of:

"Hey guys, we are fully aware as of this minute of the connections problem and it's being investigated as we speak. We already identified one possible source of the problems as our network from XXX and we've got network engineer dispatched to fix this.

I've listed so far the following errors: 007, 040, stuck at the loading screen. Let me know if there's anything else.

We're also actively discussing the possibility of extending the duration of the HB week-end and replaying the mAT, or an alternate form of guild tournament this month, with similar predictions".


It could have been like this, that, that, that and that post. Or maybe an update on RMT action. Or even nice little short posts like this, that or that (but who needs to be nice? that's for kids right? we're all much better with the all-meaningful silence that only men with manly attributes can appreciate or the "no non-sense" world of "breaking news"). But I'm not a CR.

StormDragonZ

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I'm waiting for a thread or post from Regina saying that she finds the entire community selfish, mean, egotistical and other words that could easily get you, me or someone else a one way trip to being banned... but because she's the CR... well, I'll get back to you on that...

Nonetheless, I may make a habit out of this, but you have to remember, she only talks to those she's sure of having important information worth sharing... you know, like guild leaders to guilds that play PvP or beating the Fissure of Woe over and over for around 10+ hours a day.

Let's just be flat out straight... she can do whatever she wants. In the end, it doesn't matter what happens. It's not like she cares about Guild Wars... or... no, she... never mind.

Concise Version: She's busy a lot on things she might not know what it is.

cosyfiep

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are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

I would like a comment in the threads....yes we are aware of the problem and its being looked at....she doesnt have to be explicit about where the problem is what it is etc...I just want to know that anet knows about the problems...the way it stands now, we feel that dont give my rats behind about us any longer....and if they dont care about us, you know what I wont care enough to buy their next game!

Snow Bunny

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Join Date: Jul 2007

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Originally Posted by Avarre
I have a lot of stuff to do RL, don't get paid, and I can post in every topic ever.

If she's not frequenting forums and being visible, what does she do?
Seriously.

"Hello, my name is Regina. Whenever someone on Guru complains about the fact that we never tell the fanbase anything, let me again politely inform you that frequenting forums is only a minute fraction of my actual job."

WELL THEN WHAT THE HELL DO YOU DO?

Gaile was a failure in that she always was pretty much clueless. But goddamn, she talked to us. Sure, some of her info was wrong, but when stuff like duping first came out, she posted in that thread.

This past weekend, the mAT was ruined by the absolutely decrepit status of the servers.

No word from their staff? They don't see that their system can't function because there's so much lag?

Regina, what do you do? I'm serious. Your blog is unhelpful and uninformative. You are the head of the CR team - well then what do you do?

You're not talking to us about GW1 ingame or through the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing forums, and you're not telling us about GW2, and you're sure as hell not making CONGA lines.

WHAT DO YOU DO????????????????????????????????????????????

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

So, from what I can tell, you guys are pissed that Regina doesn't use the Guru forums as her main source of information dispersal, instead using the official wiki as her main outlet.

This forum/site may be titled "Elite", but the attitude of users certainly isn't - or is, depending on which way you look at it. Your sense of entitlement - "it's her JOB to look after whiners!" - is so indicative of today's "want/blame" society.

You'll get information when they have something to deliver, when they want to, and their own way. The cesspool that this community has become does not make THIS outlet agreeable to information dispersal.

Bryant Again

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I don't think anyone complained that she doesn't frequent the guru, just forums in general.

Nessar

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It would be nice if she did frequent the forums or ingame at least...

Bryant Again

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She could be attending to "other duties", but then that brings to question of what is it she's actually supposed to be doing.

I mean I don't mind if she's busy with other game-related work, but we need to know what her real title is. If she's not constantly busy with community feedback and discussion, then sorry, but she's not a CR.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Regina did say back in the beginning of her tenure she would be doing things differently to Gaile. Just because she's not spoon feeding the trolls doesn't mean she's not working.

Read her journal, or talk page - think outside the box...or the Guru.

I would consider community forums an inefficient use of time. Too much crap to trawl through to find the useful information.

Edit: I'd also like to say there WAS a useful thread in the Game Bugs forum, which was updated/stickied/changed once a month with a listing of all problems/bugs, but that's slipped by the wayside. This was something that could be pointed to directly.

Bryant Again

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Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar
I would consider community forums an inefficient use of time. Too much crap to trawl through to find the useful information.
Ignoring quality feedback just because of a majority of negative feedback means you're not doing your job, or at least doing it poorly.

Just for the record: I'm not saying she's a good/bad CR.

pumpkin pie

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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Things does not look good I am afraid. I deleted my previous post that was purely speculation, I think RB might be having something else on her mind all together, or maybe trying to figure out why the hell did she take up this job in the first place only to vex her so much after only 2-3+ months working

Maybe we need a re-welcome aboard and a re-introduction thing for RB.

seut

seut

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
This past weekend, the mAT was ruined by the absolutely decrepit status of the servers.
Past weekend? Anet is located at the us west coast and their weekend isn't over yet. Give her at least another 15hours and let her get to her office on Monday morning.
If you want to blame somebody for ignoring the problem, then aim at Izzy. Apparently he was on the rawr-vent on Saturday.

Arkantos

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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So, from what I can tell, you guys are pissed that Regina doesn't use the fansite forums to give information, instead she uses the official wikipedia, which is not a discussion forum.
Had to fix it a bit, but correct.

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This forum/site may be titled "Elite", but the attitude of users certainly isn't - or is, depending on which way you look at it. Your sense of entitlement - "it's her JOB to look after whiners!" - is so indicative of today's "want/blame" society.
Taking shit from the community comes with being CR, whether she likes it or not. It's like this in pretty much every MMORPG. Her job is to communicate with us, and using only the official wiki isn't communicating very well.

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Read her journal, or talk page - think outside the box...or the Guru.
Again, I don't think anyone is angry that she doesn't post on guru, but fansite forums in general.

Shadow

Shadow

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Join Date: Aug 2005

None

You don't know what you had till it's gone.

I like Regina, personality wise. She seems a lot more competent than Gaile, not that Gaile was too bad. However, Regina's laissez-faire attitude with the community sites leaves something to be desired.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

Community relations - relating with the community. This in my eyes is a two way communication, which I have seen lacking in the new CR unfortunately - it makes the CR seem aloof.
Why is Regina updating things on the wiki and not here also? I do not go to wiki to read blogs and discussions about blogs (maybe trying to push traffic onto the wiki at the expense of the old one?).

Isn't it possible for the CR to at the very least either copy and paste any anet employee posts from the wiki to the main forums say once weekly?
On the basis that I dont know all the names of the various developers/other personnel and so would never see their updates/thoughts, that would seem much more community friendly.

I agree with some for a section on the forums where only say the CR and certain devs could start threads? It would take maybe 2 minutes to copy and paste into a thread where people could discuss..../sigh

Lycan Nibbler

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Join Date: Sep 2006

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Originally Posted by seut
Past weekend? Anet is located at the us west coast and their weekend isn't over yet. Give her at least another 15hours and let her get to her office on Monday morning.
If you want to blame somebody for ignoring the problem, then aim at Izzy. Apparently he was on the rawr-vent on Saturday.
+1, I noticed that comment about Izzy also...

Actually the bad lag started on Thursday night from what I have heard but just intensified Friday evening/ Sat morning (west coast times).

Esan

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Many of you are clinging to a past where fansites like Guru mattered. The official wiki has made Guru irrelevant. Regina's task is to communicate official messages through official channels, which includes the official web-site and the official wiki. Guru isn't an official channel. It isn't Regina's job to validate your sense of self-worth, nor is it part of ArenaNet's charter to keep Guru afloat. If Guru wants to remain relevant, someone from Guru will have to keep it up to date with the official channels.

Bryant Again

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Esan
Many of you are clinging to a past where fansites like Guru mattered. The official wiki has made Guru irrelevant. Regina's task is to communicate official messages through official channels, which includes the official web-site and the official wiki. Guru isn't an official channel. It isn't Regina's job to validate your sense of self-worth, nor is it part of ArenaNet's charter to keep Guru afloat. If Guru wants to remain relevant, someone from Guru will have to keep it up to date with the official channels.
But that's not being the community representative. If she wants to only talk on the wiki, changed her title to something wiki related. If she's not wanting or willing to communicate with the forums, then she's not representing the community.

Yes, it's a pain in the ass. But that's what being a CR is about. And again, I don't mind that that's all she does. Just make her title relevant.

fenix

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And AGAIN someone misses the point; WIKI IS AN ENCYCLOPEDIA. It is NOT a discussion forum. If Regina expects to have discussions or release information, she should do on the *ANET APPOINTED* Elite Fansites. If this were any other company and the CR was only using a wiki page for information, they wouldn't have that job. I don't see why Anet should be any different.

Esan

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What does it matter what her job title is? Her job is public relations (note: "CR" is marketing jargon), specifically, to be ArenaNet's mouthpiece. She is part of the team that maintains the official channels, and she is directly accessible from her official wiki talk page.

"CR" doesn't mean punching bag. Whether she participates or not in unofficial channels is up to her. Gaile tried to be omnipresent in the fansites and got burned. Regina is, wisely, being more discreet and professional.

Bryant Again

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Originally Posted by Esan
What does it matter what her job title is?
Um, it matters a lot. Wouldn't you be misleading a lot of people if you owned a shop where you labeled yourself a "cake designer" but instead you baked brownies?

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Originally Posted by Esan
"CR" doesn't mean punching bag. Whether she participates or not in unofficial channels is up to her. Gaile tried to be omnipresent in the fansites and got burned. Regina is, wisely, being more discreet and professional.
Gaile got burned not because she was just here, but moreso because she didn't really relay anything. See: PvP community.

And yes, in a sense being a "CR" means taking a lot of punches. But it's more about being able to withstand all those punches and get to the core of problems. There's a lot to learn and discover on these forums, but all of the gold is buried knee-deep in shit.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Taking shit from the community comes with being CR, whether she likes it or not. It's like this in pretty much every MMORPG. Her job is to communicate with us, and using only the official wiki isn't communicating very well.
This comes up in every discussion about the community's expectations of a CR - part of the job description is to eat shit and like it.

And I argue the same thing every time - it's perfectly acceptable to "fire a customer", to play to the customer who actually means something. No, that's NOT choosing to listen to only the good stuff. That's choosing to accept the feedback that comes in a civilized manner. And there is NOTHING civilized about community forums.

You think it's ok to make her eat the shit, but when customer service reps rebels against it, you're smugly self-satisfied that you've "won". If you work in customer service and say that it's acceptable to take shit/be punched by your customers, then your management does not respect you, and you don't respect yourself enough that you allow social standards to slip. The customer is NOT always right.

Bryant Again

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Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar
The customer is NOT always right.
...But there are a few who are.

Just because most are wrong doesn't mean it's safe to ignore all of them.

shoyon456

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OK, so ignoring the fact that this has become a regina/gaile comparison.

I am disappointed at the withholding of gw2 info. I'm not saying they should tell us all about it, however there are some KEY elements I would like to know about the game. Take in mind that when I say I would like to know about them, I don't mean specifics into them.

Some key details that I think all of us would be happy to know about now:

-How many professions will be in gw2/Will all gw1 professions be making a reappearance in some shape or form? (Notice I don't ask what the professions will be directly)

-Will expansions introduce new races/professions, that will force us to set down our old chars and essentially start from scratch? (This one is extremely important, since gw2 seems to have a WoW-like emphasis on single character development via grinding levels)

-Of course, what exact benefits will carry over from the HoM into gw2. This one is actually low on my list, because frankly I don't give a @#%^ anymore.

-What will the racial benefits be? This is a relatively simple one, and other than the likely backlash of QQ, it'd be great to know in advance.

-How will emergent complexity workand skills work. A small, indescriptive example would suffice.

Esan

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Um, it matters a lot. Wouldn't you be misleading a lot of people if you owned a shop where you labeled yourself a "cake designer" but instead you baked brownies?
Not to put too fine a point on it, but if "cake designer" were as lacking in inherent meaning as "community representative" (or "community manager"), then I would happily call myself one even if my job were as incidental to cake design as crushing puppies to make delectable cake frosting.

As she states on her user page, part of her duties is to "monitor and convey" feedback. Neither necessarily entails participation in Guru threads.

Bryant Again

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Originally Posted by Esan
Not to put too fine a point on it...
That's not the purpose of my example. In more specific words, you do not call yourself something you're not. If I come into your shop expecting some cake and instead get crushed puppies, I'm not going to be too happy.

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Originally Posted by Esan
As she states on her user page, part of her duties is to "monitor and convey" feedback. Neither necessarily entails participation in Guru threads.
It's not just about the Guru. It's about the community as a whole.

Esan

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It isn't as if Regina is unreachably aloof. The community as a whole is welcome to interact directly with Regina at [[User talk:Regina Buenaobra]] or [[ArenaNet:Portal]]. There is no barrier to entry, except certain prejudices.

Bryant Again

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That would mean taking every discussion - large emphasis on "every" - you see here directly over to those two links. What's easier, bringing the person to the house or bringing the house to the person?

Lycan Nibbler

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Originally Posted by Esan
As she states on her user page, part of her duties is to "monitor and convey" feedback.
Convey:- to impart or communicate, to transfer or deliver

How exactly is she capable of "conveying" to the community if she so rarely "conveys" on the forums? Again, you are expecting a) People to know who she is (as can be seen on this thread, some certainly dont) and b) To find where the person hangs out to post - remember, Lindsay has given out more information than Regina lately....

You deliver to where the people are, otherwise its not delivering or conveying.

recon54

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Boy has this thread flown way off topic, turned into 1 major lets flame Reg thread instead of talking bout there being no info on GW2. To stick with the original topic, i have to say im upset that there will be nothing on GW2 at PAX, was looking forward to seeing something new bout GW2 but i guess i can forget bout that now at least they let us know before hand so we can be surprised if there is news. In all honesty i think that ANET is shooting themselves in the foot here, cuz they are going to PAX to get to meet some of the player base/fans of THEIR games (Prophecies, Factions, NF, GWEN, AND GW2) but it seems they are just stepping aside for Aion to take over. Yes, i know Aion is an NCsoft game and that NCsoft is Anets "parent" company, but still im a GUILD WARS/Anet fan not an Aion fan, should be trying to hype up GW and the GW franchise not Aion.

Now for the other topic. Regina seems to be very much straight forward on information, take GW2 at PAX as an example she flat out says "nothing new about GW2 at PAX." The current Anet CR problem atm is that they seem to be relying WAY too much on the official wiki. You have an official website and community forums, and chat box in the game for a reason. The reason for the official website, and the forums is so that Anet may communicate with the community. As of late, both of these resources have been getting used less and less cuz most of the information is just getting directly posted onto the Wiki. Now the wiki is a nice source for information, but that sort of information is the kind that you would find in an encyclopedia (ie how many monsters are it takes to vanquish a zone, what monsters are in that zone, etc). Wiki is not that great a source for discussions. Its also not the only source and Anet needs to start using some of those other sources (Fansites and guildwars.com) again.

When there are updates one of the 1st places information about that update should go is the official website not the wiki, the wiki should be 2nd or 3rd. Take the latest dev update for example, there was no link to a dev update at gw.com at all, and the forums only got the update cuz somebody found it on the wiki and posted it. I really think that there should be a Dev. Updates page on gw.com and the link for it should be right below Game Updates and Network News. If you look at Reg's Journal on wiki, she gives a lot of info about PAX, well i think all that info ur talking bout in the Journal would GREAT info to place on gw.com as Latest Headlines and give us some info about what Anet is doing at PAX.

Another thing i noticed on Reg's Journal is that shes trying to find more ways to communicate/get involved with the community. Posting on forums and chatting in game are 2 ways to contact us, the community. Ya, sure, they may be chaotic, but guess what, you're getting involved with the community then! Guess what im trying to say here is that you shouldnt be trying to find that "GODLY" 1 way method to communicate (which sorta feels like Anet has concluded is the Wiki only) and being nit-picky about it, instead maximize ur output by putting ur info in as many places as u can by placing ur info on ur official website, on the wiki, on fansites/forums, on the GW login, and even talk to players in the game about it.

One point of CR/PR is to try and let the community/fans know that the company is there and cares about the fans. When the CR/PR grows silent, you end up getting a situation like this thread were the fans get upset.

That would be my rant on this, oh and i guess in before close cuz thats where this thread seems to be going.

Aera Lure

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The wiki is fine, to a degree. Its more organized and official, with topics and issues she can easily reference, as opposed to the chaos here. Granted, we have some great discussions here amongst the many she could do just as well to avoid. The problem is its a more sterile environment, not far enough away from Anet, not enough actually into the community and their customers.

I think she should simply browse the forums every day, at least briefly. I do that. It doesnt take me much time and I can very quickly hone in on the topics that interest me and browse them, replying to some. I do think she should do that. On larger issues, she could also then take them back to her wiki and create a discussion there. I fear Anet not getting community input, and obviously they are also not getting news out as well.

One thing she obviously would have gotten from browsing any forum lately is that Anet's eternal silence on GW2 maybe isnt the best approach. Some sort of comments on what is going on, maybe ideas they are batting around, any little snippet that makes it at least appear like things are happening (we know they are, just helps to see or hear they are) would go a long way.

Guru could have a topic(s) discussing points in her wiki, making more of us here aware that she is active, maybe bringing some of us there to comment there where she seems to be. Would help that she come to the various fan forums. Occasionally. Its a two way street and she seems a little sequestered, not so community oriented, and a bit more like a news feed if you just look at her wiki alone. Its likely not intended. Its just an impression. Nothing against Regina, but I miss Gaile.

And yeah, back on topic: Anet announced GW2 way too early.

Winterclaw

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/sigh

I wonder if she is invisible because she figured out that no one at Anet will know if she isn't doing her job and is able to get away with it.

Either way, she is invisible and judging by this thread, right now there aren't really any community relations. GG anet. You hired someone to talk about the GW franchise and that person appearently isn't communicating.

Looking at GW.com there haven't been regular updates to the community section in months. About since the time Gaile left.


Aera, they had to announce early because they were cancelling their follow-up campiagn and replacing it with a mild dissappointment of an expansion.

Esan

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Originally Posted by Miss Drops Az
How exactly is she capable of "conveying" to the community
Convey to the developers, not the forum denizens. I should have excerpted the full sentence, but you could equally have checked the source of the quote instead of jumping to misconceptions.

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
What's easier, bringing the person to the house or bringing the house to the person?
Didn't you say just a couple of posts earlier that Guru wasn't the locus of the problem?

I am sure you are not arguing that a centralized resource where both the players and the developers can collaborate to fix problems (viz. ArenaNet:Portal) is worse than a dozen diverse sites where disjoint segments of the player base air their complaints and for which Anet must hire people specifically to collate these reports into a coherent representation of the whole community. You don't need a Ph.D. in common sense to see which is better. You must have some other point.

Akaraxle

Akaraxle

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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Heh, this thread and this other one just reminded me of the latest VG Cats comic...

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/080722.jpg

I didn't realize how well it fits ANet (for those not getting it, it's about Nintendo) until now.


P.S. I'm trying to decide whether JR is Pea-Steve or Pea-Bob.

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw
Aera, they had to announce early because they were cancelling their follow-up campiagn and replacing it with a mild dissappointment of an expansion.
Yeah, you're right, of course. I always thought that they should have had half their team developing GW2 in secret, while another expansion was worked on, just so the final expansion didnt come out and we'd all be sitting around bored for a year or more in topics like these. That was all I was referring to. They could perhaps have planned a more graceful, gradual exit from GW, so that GW2 would be further along before they announced it. Not viable if they wanted all resources shifted onto GW2, which is the path they took.

Lord Sojar

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Regina...lol... Gaile, and this is funny saying this, was 100x better.

Gaile at least talked to us, and associated with the community. You cannot be a CR Manager without directly interacting with the community. Hiding on wiki isn't interaction, it is the lack thereof.

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Originally Posted by fenix
And AGAIN someone misses the point; WIKI IS AN ENCYCLOPEDIA. It is NOT a discussion forum. If Regina expects to have discussions or release information, she should do on the *ANET APPOINTED* Elite Fansites. If this were any other company and the CR was only using a wiki page for information, they wouldn't have that job. I don't see why Anet should be any different.
Fenix for President.