Next Update Will Be Next Week

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk
I don´t like the idea of Izzy telling a select few people skill changes before they are released.
I suppose you don't like the idea of a select few people being Closed Beta Testers and Alpha Testers either, because that is basically what this is.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove
If you hope that next update will get you laid, prepare to be disappointed.

Kashrlyyk

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Drops Az
But its par for the course these days.....
I don´t understand this.

Koudelka

Koudelka

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

England

The Khaotic Empire (TKE)

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain Fz
I Smell Another Imbalanced Mesmer Update By Izzy
Shhh... they're not overpowered... they're lovely.

On topic:

I hope that it has new content! Like new armour sets... I'm still gagging for this armour, which is worn by Lady Althea and Erudine (have been since pre searing lol):



Or maybe a bit of this for the eles? Worn by Azure:


What I would love is Evennia's armour for my monk:


As for new areas? How about the catacoumbs, or Wizard's Folly? New skills, well, introduce the unincluded ones! Lightning Storm ftw!

Of course I'm getting way ahead of myself. For all we know it's a mild skill shuffle, like we've seen a hundred times already.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Koudelka
I hope that it has new content! Like new armour sets... I'm still gagging for this armour, which is worn by Lady Althea and Erudine (have been since pre searing lol):
That's the one thing the new update definately won't have.

pigdestroyer

pigdestroyer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Chavos Del [ocho]

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kill RaO, nerf smite, ok?

Koudelka

Koudelka

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

England

The Khaotic Empire (TKE)

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
That's the one thing the new update definately won't have.
Aww :l. Well, I just thought I'd get it out in the open so when it does happen I can go into BWAHAHA mode. You're probably right though, not that likely, is it?

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

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Yeah they could open as it has been mentioned the Catacombs best dungeon in the game imho .Quests that take you on different paths like staying with the King and taking the fight to the charr to free Rin and all the way to Drasir.

Make up some more arenas in pve areas with 4v4,6v6 and 8v8 make them a little bigger than than those in RA.

Kashrlyyk

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
I suppose you don't like the idea of a select few people being Closed Beta Testers and Alpha Testers either, because that is basically what this is.
No, this is not at all like that. We are past the Beta and Alpha stages. We have mAT and given a select few players the advantage of time and knowledge is not fair and should not happen in a competetive part of the game.

Orfas

Orfas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

behind you!

Archangels Fury [AF]

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Quote:
To comply with new MasterCard security requirements, we will no longer be able to accept Maestro as a payment method in the Guild Wars In-Game Store. This change will occur on Thursday, August 7 after the live update.
Please note that these changes will only impact UK players, and will only affect purchases made in the In-Game Store. The Maestro payment option is still available through the PlayNC Store to purchase all Guild Wars campaigns, the Bonus Mission Pack, and the PvP Access Kit.
that was from the main site so it confirms that the update is tomorrow :P

Shadow Kurd

Shadow Kurd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Netherlands

Scouts of Tyria

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Yay finaly a time.. o wait I HAVE TO WORK THEN NOOOOOOOOO!

EDIT: from the other thread:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
The Hall of Monuments changes will not be in tomorrow's update.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk
No, this is not at all like that. We are past the Beta and Alpha stages. We have mAT and given a select few players the advantage of time and knowledge is not fair and should not happen in a competetive part of the game.
The people in beta and alpha had time and knowledge too...

It is like that! They are testing and giving feedback to the changes. If you think that gives them some advantage then I kinda have to laugh at you a bit, because the players who get in for these kind of things can come up with the relevant builds in less than a week generally...knowing the new skill changes or not.

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

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now the monster update lost alot of its size

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Wonder if these elite skill changes are PvE only or not.

And I would still love a global PvE buff to binding ritual builds...

mr_stealth

mr_stealth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

I Gots A Crayon[Blue]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
The people in beta and alpha had time and knowledge too...

It is like that! They are testing and giving feedback to the changes. If you think that gives them some advantage then I kinda have to laugh at you a bit, because the players who get in for these kind of things can come up with the relevant builds in less than a week generally...knowing the new skill changes or not.
Having advance knowledge of skill changes is still an advantage, even if it only gives a few extra days to change builds. In any competition, giving such an advantage to any person and/or team involved should be not be allowed.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_stealth
Having advance knowledge of skill changes is still an advantage, even if it only gives a few extra days to change builds. In any competition, giving such an advantage to any person and/or team involved should be not be allowed.
It's a very minor advantage considering all the involved players are (theoretically) top level players. It's not like this is giving anyone who would lose normally game winning knowledge. In fact, everyone will just cookie cutter their builds anyways.

The benefits it gives are greatly worth it.

mr_stealth

mr_stealth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

I Gots A Crayon[Blue]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
It's a very minor advantage considering all the involved players are (theoretically) top level players. It's not like this is giving anyone who would lose normally game winning knowledge.
It doesn't really matter how minor the advanage is, or whether it will have any effect on the outcome of the competition. A competive game shouldn't have this grey area where an "its ok, because its probably not going to effect who wins" attitude exists. Its more about the principles of having the most balanced/fair competition possible, than it actually enabling a team to win a competition they would otherwise lose.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_stealth
It doesn't really matter how minor the advanage is, or whether it will have any effect on the outcome of the competition. A competive game shouldn't have this grey area where an "its ok, because its probably not going to effect who wins" attitude exists. Its more about the principles of having the most balanced/fair competition possible, than it actually enabling a team to win a competition they would otherwise lose.
The thing is, this can't even happen. No one cares about the ladder anymore, and by the time the mAT rolles around, everyone will have had 20+ days to adjust. That is plenty of time for mAT teams. There is literally no advantage because the only people who do care about the ladder (non-mAT teams) will lose to the mAT teams anyways.

I get what you are saying, but this is a great way to help insure a more balanced and fair environment by making the skill balances as good as they can be.

mr_stealth

mr_stealth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

I Gots A Crayon[Blue]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
I get what you are saying, but this is a great way to help insure a more balanced and fair environment by making the skill balances as good as they can be.
I do agree completely that these players know better than anyone what changes would be best for game balance. In the end, the way things are handled right now allows for the best balance(as far as the actual skills). The only part I see as questionable is them being told which changes will be taken beyond consideration/testing and added to the live server, and when they will be added. Almost anyone that pays attention to what is going on ingame and on forums has a pretty good idea of what skills are candidates for rebalancing, we just don't know when and how.

pamelf

pamelf

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Koudelka
I hope that it has new content! Like new armour sets...
I know it's probably never going to happen but this is one of my all time greatest wishes as well.

DarkWasp

DarkWasp

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Join Date: Mar 2005

Paradise

Agency Of Forbidden Fruits [Oot]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmoon
now the monster update lost alot of its size
Could be a good thing actauly, if its a monster update even without the HoM changes, what else could fill that monster space? A nice surprise?

xx borat xx

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2008

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkWasp
Could be a good thing actauly, if its a monster update even without the HoM changes, what else could fill that monster space? A nice surprise?
yeah thats what i was wondering too. i just hope they will do a nice big skill update

komma

komma

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

None

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judgement day is almost upon us!

Cathode_Reborn

Cathode_Reborn

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Join Date: Sep 2006

As long as the skill changes are all there I'll be happy - HoM is useless.....unless you're the bragging type.

shoyon456

shoyon456

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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One thing about the skill update... I hope they dont just target a few professions, rather enhance ineffective skills equally from all professions. If not, this update will pretty much mean nothing to me.

therangereminem

therangereminem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

so tomarrow afternoon about 17 hours from now the monster update will happen.

what will we see changed

1 hom, account based and new weapon to hom
2 ha change, new maps and i have heard fame will be changed also
3 ursan nerf, now poeple can start using there brains to do elite areas again
and the pople that could do elite areas before becuz they just could not learn to do things or lazy, will cry again. long live ursan
4 sf buff and plains nerf, they figured out that all they did was nerf everythign but plains farming and the half damage just is not the way togo
so they will try another waqy and no not short the time sf last
5 big pve skill update besides ursan and sf
6 pvp will be changed major again
7 qq ing for weeks after followed by another update and more qqing
8 somethign about titles that involve gring for points to be changed

think thats it and cover sit all

so good bye to ursans see ya i wont miss you

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk
I don´t like the idea of Izzy telling a select few people skill changes before they are released.
Then i bet you hate the fact that izzy has his own forum especially to discuss skill changes with certain players even more.

BoondockSaint

BoondockSaint

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/Me

I am looking forward to the update, though things are gonna get crazy on the forums, O-well that is nature of the beast.

As for Ursan, I guess I've always understood both sides, hell I've had a main char, Ranger and Mes in DOA with no chance of getting into a pug. At the time I had no guild to play in the area as well. I can also see how ursan was the great eqalizer, (as long as you were willing to max the title) so that pugs were so easy to run they became very viable and thus had a high sucess rate.

Yet I've seen how Ursan has effected the entire community, the apathy that it has the potential to create destroys some of the best parts of pve. While at the same time Ursan can make people less inclined to jump into PvP from PvE, as it was intended to do. (I know 3 years is a little late but still... and we now have PvE and PvP skill...)

However, I have come to the conclusion that the reason I created a ranger was to... Doh... play a ranger and the same goes for the Mesmer, Warrior, Sin, and other pve professions I have. I enjoy the individual aspects of those professions. This is one of the reasons I enjoy AB, relaxed, (though at time immature) fun PvP that I, whenever I fell like, change professions just to experience somthing new.

So, all of you who still do not wish to see Ursan nerfed ask yourself, "why did I create my______?" fill in the blank. It is time to see Ursan go.

Now that that is out of the way it is also time to send Ursan off with a bang!

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RIP Ursan! (at least I hope!)

Shakti

Shakti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Home...

Vier Reiter [Vier]

Quote:
Originally Posted by therangereminem
so tomarrow afternoon about 17 hours from now the monster update will happen.

what will we see changed

1 hom, account based and new weapon to hom
2 ha change, new maps and i have heard fame will be changed also
3 ursan nerf, now poeple can start using there brains to do elite areas again
and the pople that could do elite areas before becuz they just could not learn to do things or lazy, will cry again. long live ursan
4 sf buff and plains nerf, they figured out that all they did was nerf everythign but plains farming and the half damage just is not the way togo
so they will try another waqy and no not short the time sf last
5 big pve skill update besides ursan and sf
6 pvp will be changed major again
7 qq ing for weeks after followed by another update and more qqing
8 somethign about titles that involve gring for points to be changed

think thats it and cover sit all

so good bye to ursans see ya i wont miss you
We don't actually know that though. Some of those things they've said will happen in the future, some are being "looked at". All we know for sure is a "monster update" this week. Let's not try to make tomorrow into something it may not be and start a "but they said...." fest, because they haven't. In fact I believe Regina stated Hom would not be in tomorrow's update. Don't get all pumped and get others all hyped for unconfirmed ideas.

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

Censored

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinus Stella
Then i bet you hate the fact that izzy has his own forum especially to discuss skill changes with certain players even more.
Like I have said before: "Never have so many had so few to thank for so little"

Jensy

Jensy

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Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

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According to Regina in LA earlier:

Ursan Nerf
PVE skill update
SF small buff
Chaos Plains were looked at, monsters updated
NO HoM update
Hard Mode will be harder
Mesmer skill buff
Buffs to weaker elites
NO new content planned
NO expansions planned for GW1
Hero AI updated

Probably more, but yeah.

We'll know tomorrow.

Sypherious

Sypherious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2007

It's Over Nine Thousaaaaand

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im just gonna laugh when ursan is left untouched

Stockholm

Stockholm

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

Censored

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sypherious
im just gonna laugh when ursan is left untouched
Or when NC-Soft's pencil pushers goes ballistic and sends over a korean dev team. Income goes down heads roll

fireflyry

fireflyry

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

New Zealand

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sypherious
im just gonna laugh when ursan is left untouched
I really hope your wrong.

Guess time will tell.

After seeing more and more requests for Ursans outside of elite areas for Vanqs and HM in general I'm still generally optimistic it will be changed although I gave up on false expectations years ago.

psycore

psycore

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

The monster update is going to be something about changing the skills of the spectres in the underworld =P

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinus Stella
Then i bet you hate the fact that izzy has his own forum especially to discuss skill changes with certain players even more.
nothing quite like a bit of insider trading on a supposed competitive playing field

kostolomac

kostolomac

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

Serbia

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Are you positive that this "monster" update is on Thursday ? Because it's Thursday here in Serbia ( around 6am though) and there are no updates.

Quote:
Ursan Nerf
PVE skill update
SF small buff
Chaos Plains were looked at, monsters updated
NO HoM update
Hard Mode will be harder
Mesmer skill buff
Buffs to weaker elites
NO new content planned
NO expansions planned for GW1
Hero AI updated
I hope with ever fiber of my being that you are right on the bolded ones.

Also lol if they make HM harder just by increasing the numbers.

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

Censored

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kostolomac
Are you positive that this "monster" update is on Thursday ? Because it's Thursday here in Serbia ( around 6am though) and there are no updates.


I hope with ever fiber of my being that you are right on the bolded ones.
Also lol if they make HM harder by increasing the numbers.
It will be Friday in Serbia, since the update comes late Thursday PST (GMT -8 on August 7th)

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by kostolomac
Are you positive that this "monster" update is on Thursday ? Because it's Thursday here in Serbia ( around 6am though) and there are no updates.

I lol'ed.

Thursday = Thursday, USA West Coast time. The way it's been for a very long time.

P.S. - Still prayin' for a binding ritual buff. Come on Grenth, don't let me down! xD

Productivity

Productivity

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by super strokey
That was my fav build in the game, i changed it a bit but i remember it being so good... oh well maybe someting nice will happen... or not lol
A build that required near zero thought and simply the ability to follow a monk and then roll your head around on a keyboard was your favourite build?