Next Update Will Be Next Week

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amnel Ithtirsol
I have a feeling Gate of Anguish will have a number of extra districts the next two days or so... people going crazy for gems while Ursan is still around.


Also, have to agree on price increases on both ecto and braces. But only if the nerfbat hit UW and UB hard enough.

We'll see...
Umm people have know about this for over a month, honestly how many people who want to fill up their HoM with tormented don't have the 11 already, I've had mine for over a month.

wynoski

wynoski

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

In a hot spot

United Vanguard [UV]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxBat
People who whine about Ursan are obviously those that are playing with large numbers of people instead of themselves... the old "dont like it" argument has no place in multiplayer settings, especially when you can't even get into groups without it.
After C, Space, 1,2,3,4....C, Space, 1,2,3,4...through my fourth vanq in three hours with H/H, I came to a conclusion: Ursan is REALLY F*%&ing boring.

For months I have been against the Ursan Nerf, but now I am binding Ursan to the Anet Alter appealing to the DEV gods and screaming, SAVE US ANET!!!

Please end the pain...make me care about skills agian

Jenn

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by R.Shayne
If that was the case then July 2nd nerf would have resulted in a permit price increase in ecto, didn't happen. The supply of ecto is there and not going down but the demand just isn't there anymore. The only way we are going to see an increase in ecto is if they introduce more stuff that requires ecto.
I see what you're saying, but I'm not sure I can agree. Might it be that the price went back down because people realized you can still to the A/E Chaos Plains farm? If the run is made impossible to complete, I do think we'll see some rise in price.

Nainoa

Nainoa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

USA

ARMY

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To me it's really mind boggling that they are taking measures to balance PvE a year later. Arenanet must have some real idiots that make up these skills if they're incapable of realizing how unbalanced it will be in the design stage. Now the damage has already been done because the game was allowed to continue like this for such a long period of time. If I had known how boring and pointless endgame pve was and how shitty they are at balancing the game, I definitely would have spent my money on a more worthwhile game.

As I've said before they really don't have any incentive to make major after market changes to the game since they aren't planning on releasing any more content for GW1 (hence no profit until GW2). I would be interested in just how many active players there are in GW at present time (my guess is maybe 1 million worldwide). Information on GW2 has been scarce; it is probably a long ways off. IMO they are losing GW2 customers by letting issues like this fester and by not releasing any new GW1 content for such a long period of time. =\

Shakti

Shakti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Home...

Vier Reiter [Vier]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Alvito
Quotes like this make me wish people would get their facts straight before posting.

The trader price at the time of that nerf went from a sell-to-player price of 3,300g (and falling) to the current trading range of 4,100 to 4,300.

In the secondary market (player-to-player), the result has been a shift from ectos being 30+/100k to 26-27 for 100k. This is a permanent price increase.

Granted, ectos only recovered about half of their loss from the 20-22/100k days. This result obtained because the instantaneous rate of ecto generation (measure it as ecto/second or minute, on average) remained higher than before, leading to a lower price at which it becomes more profitable to trader ecto and spend the time savings farming more ecto than to chase an extra 300-400g on each ecto by selling.

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While I agree with most of the post, problem is the bolded section. There can't be a "permanent" price on something like ecto where price is effected by supply and demand.

this has been covered repeatedly every time there's a fluctuation in prices. Prices will rise and fall any time there's a change in availability or demand on anything. There will never be a set "permanent" price.

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Keepers of Chaos

Simply, ectos will not raise because players are now very suspicious about the unpredictable fluctuations and don't consider it a reliable currency.
So, they will not invest again in ectos.

The new currency are Z-keys.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by English Warrior
Assasins are extremely overpowered still after numerous nerfs.
Atleast they are dead, but shadwowsteps need another nerf since they are still openly abusable.

Quote:
Ritualists are overpowered in a number of ways, weapon spells for example maybe not a nerf but bring some skills that can remove them, on another ritualist matter there is ritspike very overpowered thanks to spirit rift simple overpowered.
You can't stack weapon spells, 10 energy is alot for a Guardian, Splinter Weapon is actually balanced as far as I can see.

Quote:
Paragons have been nerfed so many times and they are still overpowered but they are near to balance though.
Nowhere near. To "fix" this for PvP you'll have to put it in a paper shreader.

Quote:
Dervish EXTEMELY UBER overpowered AoM and Wounding strike are overpowered this was anet trying to make a paladin class i think it needs more healing and reduced damage.
Without AoM they lack the ability to apply deep wound, so nerf Wounding Strike to 7 recharge and swap the condition stack, and just kill AoM because it's basically godmode.

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abnaxus
Simply, ectos will not raise because players are now very suspicious about the unpredictable fluctuations and don't consider it a reliable currency.
So, they will not invest again in ectos.

The new currency are Z-keys.
I have to disagree with this assumption. The only direction ectos are going to flutuate to after the chaos plains is upwards. Even before the nerf ecto prices have been gradually crawling back up. Ectos will remain a solid curency alternative like they have been since the beginning of the game regardless of their market price.

Vazze

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nainoa
To me it's really mind boggling that they are taking measures to balance PvE a year later. Arenanet must have some real idiots that make up these skills if they're incapable of realizing how unbalanced it will be in the design stage. Now the damage has already been done because the game was allowed to continue like this for such a long period of time.
QFT......lol.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

I realized the only reason I'm excited is because of the massive cries that will happen this Thursday.

Not because the game will genuinely improve/devolve.

:*(

Lynx Of Ithorian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

British Bulldogs [DOGS]

has anyone actually assured us that the update will be this thursday or is this all speculation ... like 90% of the threads around here. I asked izzy ingame and he said he wasnt sure it would be ready for this thursday

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynx Of Ithorian
has anyone actually assured us that the update will be this thursday or is this all speculation ... like 90% of the threads around here. I asked izzy ingame and he said he wasnt sure it would be ready for this thursday
There will be an update this Thursday, no matter what: first Thursday of the month = new tonic.

The key is:
Quote:
Trying to get everything ready for the next build, which barring complications, should be out next week.
As in, maybe.

Now, as we all know, ArenaNet operates in Valve Time.

Next week in Valve Time = 3 weeks later.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
There will be an update this Thursday, no matter what: first Thursday of the month = new tonic.

The key is:


As in, maybe.

Now, as we all know, ArenaNet operates in Valve Time.

Next week in Valve Time = 3 weeks later.

Bad yuyu! Bad yuyu! Out! Out!

Don't even insinuate that!

Let's be optimistic. With an Alliance Battle weekend, there must be something done with Faction!

Indian

Indian

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

[SWIM]/[HooD]/[RFE]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
The GW1 live team has been extremely busy working on the massive game update due out later this week.
lets see how big it is

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indian
lets see how big it is
Oh, about this big... ---> .



A small part of me hopes that there will be another area released, this time accessible to all. And I mean everyone. Mesmers, Rits, Sins, Necros, Wars, Rangers, Monks, Paras, Dervs, and Eles... sure you might not all be able to fit into the same party, but everyone would still be wanted for a group. And it would be in a place like... let's say, there's a teleporter in every major city in every campaign that would portal you over.

It's fun to dream

Gregslot

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
Without AoM they lack the ability to apply deep wound, so nerf Wounding Strike to 7 recharge and swap the condition stack, and just kill AoM because it's basically godmode.
But... isnt Melandru a GOD?

Miss Puddles

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

prepare for melan-mode

Master Mayhem

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

i have a feeling that there will be some new weapons along with HoM, Ursan nerf and couple of skill changes to all skills even the monster ones

KycooGhost

KycooGhost

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Children of Legends [LGND]

E/

I'm going to laugh no matter what happens. I've been eager to see what they do with SF as it still is a mass farming in UW, but crap for any one thats not a sin or Mez (look at varriants of the perma SF if you disagree with me on the mez), and people have been QQ'ing about Ursan since it was first used in UW.

It will be nice to see what they do with some of the "useless" elites that could use some buffing.

Whirlwind

Whirlwind

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Wolven Empire

D/

I'll bite. I use Ursan almost exclusively on my dervish. Call it what your like but overall its the most effective skill for a derv you can have. I am sick of playing it, i want to play with my bar again and have fun doing it.. i hope they turn Ursan into a pile of stinking worthless crap, completely unusable, so i can enjoy playing my character again and have fun with changing skills around and finding good combinations.

At first it was nice being able to plow through things I normaly wouldn't be able to.. it was nice to 'be more badass' for a while. Now its just boring. That skill alone can ruin the game for you. Once you get used to not using your brain and creating and testing your own bars, its pretty much over.

Honestly even people who use nothing but ursan must be bored with it by now. It may be effective, and allow you to do things you couldn't easily do otherwise, but at what cost? What happened to creating and using your own builds, using your creativity... I think I'd rather enjoy playing my character and have a little variety. I'm done with ursan whether they nerf it or not, but i seriously hope they destroy it so others can see the light too.

This whole game is about creating and using your own bar from the many, many skills at your disposal.. so get out there and do it !!

Gmr Leon

Gmr Leon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregslot
But... isnt Melandru a GOD?
No. She's a Goddess. God would hint at being male.

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

None but Fools [nuts]

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkWasp
Yep, its about time people started buying normal weapons again. They're out there, theres just no trade system for them to search.
True, it's nearly imposible to find a weapon/shield that you like if it's not among the "20K/100K+XX group". I've heard it more than once lately from guildies that they can't find the stuff they want. And it's also nowhere to be found on guru/auctions or searching the sell-forum.

Riceboi

Riceboi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by wynoski
After C, Space, 1,2,3,4....C, Space, 1,2,3,4...through my fourth vanq in three hours with H/H, I came to a conclusion: Ursan is REALLY F*%&ing boring.

For months I have been against the Ursan Nerf, but now I am binding Ursan to the Anet Alter appealing to the DEV gods and screaming, SAVE US ANET!!!

Please end the pain...make me care about skills agian
Don't use ursan then. Problem solved. I bet you never heard that before.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by GmrLeon
No. She's a Goddess. God would hint at being male.
God hints at Male, however God is a correct term for a female who is a God too.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ate of DK
True, it's nearly imposible to find a weapon/shield that you like if it's not among the "20K/100K+XX group". I've heard it more than once lately from guildies that they can't find the stuff they want. And it's also nowhere to be found on guru/auctions or searching the sell-forum.
This is what happens when you take the VALUE of items out of the game (Anet making everything easily obtainable) and the hardcore farmers quit farming or quit the game completely and then you have to rely on CASUAL farmers for the items you want and don't want to farm for. Thus since the farming population changed from hardcore to casual you will have a DECREASE in the amount of quality items you are looking for to be in the marketplace because those casual farmers are KEEPING those items for themselves or their heroes now. You have to remember hardcore play these types of games 24/7 whereas a casual farmer might play the game 2-4 hours/week, thus a big loss in game equipment showing up in the markets until they deck themselves out and their heroes.

mr_stealth

mr_stealth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

I Gots A Crayon[Blue]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riceboi
Don't use ursan then. Problem solved. I bet you never heard that before.
The problem with that solution is that almost every group for UW/FoW/DoA/nearly anything HM is ursanway. You're basically limited to guildies/heroes for anything non-ursan, when no one is online or not wanting to do FoW/etc, its ursanway or nothing(I chose nothing).

Before ursan became so popular, I could at least go to ToA and get in a pug. There was a time earlier this year when I joined a FoW pug almost every night of the week. Usually just a group of people looking to do something more challenging and maybe get some nice loot out of it. There was no concern with "beating" the area to get a chest to spawn. With ursanway, everything else is sacrificed for the sake of getting to the reward chest as fast as possible. In its current state, the FoW is just a glorified chest run and anyone not interested in that run isn't welcome there.

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_stealth
The problem with that solution is that almost every group for UW/FoW/DoA/nearly anything HM is ursanway. You're basically limited to guildies/heroes for anything non-ursan, when no one is online or not wanting to do FoW/etc, its ursanway or nothing(I chose nothing).

Before ursan became so popular, I could at least go to ToA and get in a pug. There was a time earlier this year when I joined a FoW pug almost every night of the week. Usually just a group of people looking to do something more challenging and maybe get some nice loot out of it. There was no concern with "beating" the area to get a chest to spawn. With ursanway, everything else is sacrificed for the sake of getting to the reward chest as fast as possible. In its current state, the FoW is just a glorified chest run and anyone not interested in that run isn't welcome there.
Then theres also so many ppl on here supposedly also that dont like UB so you can grab them. or make your own non UB group. I hear that does wonders too but that could be a myth.

mr_stealth

mr_stealth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

I Gots A Crayon[Blue]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by manitoba1073
Then theres also so many ppl on here supposedly also that dont like UB so you can grab them. or make your own non UB group. I hear that does wonders too but that could be a myth.
I think they are here and not in the game because they gave up on finding a group. An hour+ in ToA several evenings in a row, and only finding 1-2 people doesn't leave me with much hope either. Maybe tomorrow's changes will lure some back into the game.

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

Quote:
Originally Posted by wynoski
After C, Space, 1,2,3,4....C, Space, 1,2,3,4...through my fourth vanq in three hours with H/H, I came to a conclusion: Ursan is REALLY F*%&ing boring.

For months I have been against the Ursan Nerf, but now I am binding Ursan to the Anet Alter appealing to the DEV gods and screaming, SAVE US ANET!!!

Please end the pain...make me care about skills agian
Its something they need to change with PvE itself, its not just ursan thats c+space, you can do everything in PvE using just c+space.

You know theres something wrong with the game when the entire user input is 2 key presses per minute.

I did all my vanquishing by targetting onto the closest mob and charging in then tabbing out and going back to Mass Effect or watching a movie leaving the hench to do the work, after doing some vanquish runs with friends and actually having to play through and use skills im shocked that people can actually do it without losing interest in the game completely or falling asleep.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Confirmed that it's coming this week:

"I am planning to do this, but I think QA will kill me if I try to slip anything else in this weeks build. - Image:User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 19:43, 5 August 2008 (UTC) "

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...is_responsible

So it's no longer a should, but a will.

DarkWasp

DarkWasp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Paradise

Agency Of Forbidden Fruits [Oot]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
Confirmed that it's coming this week:

"I am planning to do this, but I think QA will kill me if I try to slip anything else in this weeks build. - Image:User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 19:43, 5 August 2008 (UTC) "

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...is_responsible

So it's no longer a should, but a will.
I saw that last night. I also saw: "The GW1 live team has been extremely busy working on the massive game update due out later this week." http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:...naobra/Journal

It's quite exciting!

Lady Syve

Lady Syve

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

PWNZILLA team

X Legion Of Doom X [LOD]

Here's something else for you all to think about:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
I've been working on a big project recently, which I can't talk about at this time. It should be come apparent relatively soon, though this depends on scheduling and other factors.

The GW1 live team has been extremely busy working on the massive game update due out later this week.
Posted August 05 in her Journal on the wiki.

Edit: DarkWasp beat me on posting the latter part of her post ^_^

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Yes! I know!

I think this time we're in for five times the bug fixes, five times the hero skill usage changes, and maybe twice the random buffs/nerfs! I can't wait!


See, that's what I bet will happen tho I want to be wrong...

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkWasp
It's quite frightening!
I couldn't agree more.

seekjy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

I understand a number of people have heard what a few of the (rumored) changes will be (through various channels like talking directly to Izzy, devs on IRC, etc).

I've heard about a couple, like drastic changes to VoD (NPCs not walking) and other random elite changes (Hundred Blades being unblockable). Has anyone else here heard of other possible changes?

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

The people who know aren't supposed to tell you.

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ate of DK
True, it's nearly imposible to find a weapon/shield that you like if it's not among the "20K/100K+XX group". I've heard it more than once lately from guildies that they can't find the stuff they want. And it's also nowhere to be found on guru/auctions or searching the sell-forum.
I had a friend who had this exact problem last night. Went to Kamadan to buy some mods but no one was selling them.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sonya
This is what happens when you take the VALUE of items out of the game (Anet making everything easily obtainable) and the hardcore farmers quit farming or quit the game completely and then you have to rely on CASUAL farmers for the items you want and don't want to farm for. Thus since the farming population changed from hardcore to casual you will have a DECREASE in the amount of quality items you are looking for to be in the marketplace because those casual farmers are KEEPING those items for themselves or their heroes now. You have to remember hardcore play these types of games 24/7 whereas a casual farmer might play the game 2-4 hours/week, thus a big loss in game equipment showing up in the markets until they deck themselves out and their heroes.
In some ways I think it is related to hardcore farmers but also hardcore traders leaving the game. I don’t know how much of it is rage quitting but I would guess the majority of it is just because the latest release (GW:EN) was over a year ago. Last part nailed me, right now the the only thing I am selling is left over that I am not using on my character or my heroes (I have ten character and 180+ heroes) and it is going to be while before I sell anything. I even started customizing stuff so people would stop trying to buy my heroes equipment.

Kashrlyyk

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by seekjy
I understand a number of people have heard what a few of the (rumored) changes will be (through various channels like talking directly to Izzy, devs on IRC, etc).

I've heard about a couple, like drastic changes to VoD (NPCs not walking) and other random elite changes (Hundred Blades being unblockable). Has anyone else here heard of other possible changes?
I don´t like the idea of Izzy telling a select few people skill changes before they are released.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk
I don´t like the idea of Izzy telling a select few people skill changes before they are released.
But its par for the course these days.....

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

My feelings about tomorrow.

Show me some affection, ANet.