Lol @ people who think this will get nerfed.
Let's face it, ANet could care less about the price of rare items. They've killed the price of a lot of weapons (sephis axes, dead bows, runic blades, stygian reavers, colossal scimitars, list goes on). What makes this any different?
Farm Voltaic Spear ( chest in 5min )
Arkantos
Nightow
Yeah, it does take a bit of finesse but if you are able to break aggro form the first mob, let SF recharge, then reapply. Use your speed boosts and in general, just try to avoid the modniir altogether. One tip I could give is that if you have high dwarven rank and a few drinks laying around, you san switch out your two speedbuffs and use [drunken master] for a longer lasting speedbuff.
fuika010
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Lol @ people who think this will get nerfed.
Let's face it, ANet could care less about the price of rare items. They've killed the price of a lot of weapons (sephis axes, dead bows, runic blades, stygian reavers, colossal scimitars, list goes on). What makes this any different? that sentence gives me. I am above the culprit. today not sleep.
ironic way off
aprobechalo if you want / can. that still listed
Let's face it, ANet could care less about the price of rare items. They've killed the price of a lot of weapons (sephis axes, dead bows, runic blades, stygian reavers, colossal scimitars, list goes on). What makes this any different? that sentence gives me. I am above the culprit. today not sleep.
ironic way off
aprobechalo if you want / can. that still listed
Trader of Secrets
Tru that Anet doesnt give a care about the rare item market. But this is a run similar to HoS, which got nerfed. Its a 50/50 on nerfing this. Personally I like to see voltaics and wat else go down in price.
Joe Fierce
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Let's face it, ANet could care less about the price of rare items. They've killed the price of a lot of weapons (sephis axes, dead bows, runic blades, stygian reavers, colossal scimitars, list goes on). What makes this any different?
Quote: Originally Posted by Joe Fierce And as for those who say it'll get nerfed because it's an easy way at a free chest and free loot, no... there's been other things like this that still do exist without being nerfed to this very day, killroy runs in sorrows for example, although nowadays your crap purple crystalline will seldom sell for more than 30k, back in the day when the farm first struck and they were still worth, one dick, one ball, and yo first and second born, nothing was still done to it, nothing, and it has remained that way since. this goes back even farther than the fugly dead swords and dead bows.
anet looks to attract the casual player, that is their market goal, expensive stuff = grind for money to buy it, which = not casual, although this doesn't go well with the more hardcore players like myself, it's something inevitable, and yah just gotta deal with it.
If it isn't anet nerfing the price of an item it's the players... e.i. the first week of eotn, glints challenge, solo ele, 250 an hour, sold at 1kea destroyer core
two weeks later, someone posts the solo ele build, price, nerfed, done.
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Originally Posted by Trader of Secrets
Tru that Anet doesnt give a care about the rare item market. But this is a run similar to HoS, which got nerfed. Its a 50/50 on nerfing this. Personally I like to see voltaics and wat else go down in price.
difference is, this actually a valid play tactic, tank, pull to a point they can't get past, spank, it's been around forever, whereas the HoS run required no tactic and no skillset, it only required [drunken master] and beer.
Avatar Exico
Interesting Idea, never really thought of this. Used to this dungeon on my heros and I as Ursan Tank and would get dual drops. Once me and guildie did it together than from Stromweaver chest drops a r11 Voltiac Spear for me along time ago. So this just speedway of getting the VS now. Like people said this farm will greatly reduce price of VS to like Colossal Scimitar. So it all good always wanted to get rarest spear in game for my casters and for my Sin. Nice idea. Should of thought of this along time ago but give credit to you. You thought of it first before I did.
ShadowsRequiem
wow looks cool I'll have to try it XD
volgaris
been having some problems getting thommis to pull to or near the wall so he can be aoe spiked. It seems to take quite a long time to get him to come and occasionally he wont come at all, any suggestions? btw we are doing our runs in hm and he isnt running off once arrgoed he just doesnt seem to aggro very well
Magnantus
Don't think anyone's said this yet, but it IS possible to Hero/Hench this farm if you don't want to join a PUG or don't have another account, though I'm sure it's slower than with 6 heroes or a PUG. I've successfully done so in NM, and once I get "I am Unstoppable" for my assassin I'll try in HM.
If people want the builds I can post them later (once I'm done typing up a syllabus), but it's basically Perma SF player, Ele nuker heroes, and Mhenlo, Lina, Eve, and Cynn. *EDIT* The builds, if people care. Player: Perma SF. I used a Perma-daggers build to help boost the damage output, just don’t attack the Dervish Stone Summit dwarves or Rending Aura will strip your SF. Hero 1: Fire 12, ES 11, BM 6 [build prof=E/R pve][Fire Attunement][glowing gaze][searing flames][searing heat][meteor shower][glyph of lesser energy][predatory season][edge of extinction][/build] Hero 2: Fire 12, ES 11, WS 6 [build prof=E/R pve][Fire Attunement][Aura of restoration][glowing gaze][searing flames][searing heat][meteor shower][glyph of lesser energy][frozen soil][/build] Hero 3: Fire 12, ES 12. Unyielding Aura is a backup just in case you die on the run (drop it if you don’t need it)[build prof=E/Mo pve][Fire Attunement][Aura of restoration][glowing gaze][teinais heat][searing heat][meteor shower][glyph of lesser energy][unyielding aura][/build] Take along Mhenlo and Lina (for healing party/you), Cynn (for more offense), and Eve (for Blood Ritual) Feel free to change the nukers’ skills if you have better ones, I just used what I had available.
Mykaal Avalon
Ive been using Dwarven Stability and Dash for the running. It also helps for breaking aggro from the Modnir but it still gets pretty dodgy (well in HM it does).
Mr. Undisclosed
Got home from my birthday party today and went on a run with some guildies and 2 alliance mates. First run crap, second run more of the same, third run alliance mate gets an r9 voltaic, 4th run same guy gets a second r9 voltaic. To be honest I was crushed
Tender Care
Just a comment on some posts requesting to be runned: who said that u got a voltaic each run in Slaver's Exile???? o_O
smokeemon
got my Q9 volta yesterday
 on 1st testrun with cople friends, allrdy sold as i think prices will go down pretty fast... the place was crowded with peepz, and this tread has sooo many views :Pquiero decir al persona que ha inventado este ''farm'' mucho gracias amigo!
Azora
Let me say that the drop rate is very lwo and that theres many bluff in these forums
i did 80 runs since the first day this started 80x8=640 items and no voltaic.. for anyone in my party.. So or the next 20 runs give me 2 voltaics so that by logique 2% be more a less correct or the rate is lower.. Like i said theres many bluff guis.. they drop but not that many.. edit: no i didnt charged and i continue poor xP Alastair
did 6 runs with 6+2h and there were 35 pieces of junk from the chest. Someone got a q9 amethyst aegis though.
-Alastair
Azora
after 80 runs at 81 run 5 min ago amethyst req 9 mot dropped and voltaic spear req 11 droped got ss .,,,
but wasnt for me >.< Dante the Warlord
Wouldn't SS be better here? Id think a combo of SS and nukers could destroy this place...
gerg-nad
I did this Slavers, normal team, well over 100 times all 4 bosses (4 chests), and Duncan (5 chests), and have seen only a handful of voltaics drop. The rate is very very low.
I am a bit sad to see all the farming going on, not that I am not doing it now, but I am somehow sad by it.
Nightow
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Wouldn't SS be better here? Id think a combo of SS and nukers could destroy this place...
SS, SV or just both really. SV for taking down Thommis faster, SS for taking down the mobs faster.
T1Cybernetic
Just a FYI...
Some of you will know by now that after you have done thommis with some careful aggro control you can do the rand stormweaver part too (within 1 hour) It takes me about 45 minutes to do both with 3 ele heroes + 2 hench ele's and mhenlo but i have only tried this in normal mode, not hard... JimmyNeutron
I've been trying to farm in HM, but no luck. Keep getting killed by the Stone Summits near Thom.
I'm using Dwarven Stability to make Dark Escape last twice as long. I dropped Flame Djinn for Feigned Neutrality and also added I'm Unstoppable, but that skill only last for 20secs. Any tips? Thanks!
Nightow
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Originally Posted by JimmyNeutron
I've been trying to farm in HM, but no luck. Keep getting killed by the Stone Summits near Thom.
I'm using Dwarven Stability to make Dark Escape last twice as long. I dropped Flame Djinn for Feigned Neutrality and also added I'm Unstoppable, but that skill only last for 20secs. Any tips? Thanks! How are the stone summits killing you? Is the Modniir using Trample?
fuika010
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Originally Posted by Azora
i did 80 runs since the first day this started 80x8=640 items and no voltaic.. for anyone in my party.. So or the next 20 runs give me 2 voltaics so that by logique 2% be more a less correct or the rate is lower.. Like i said theres many bluff guis.. they drop but not that many.. edit: no i didnt charged and i continue poor xP |
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Originally Posted by smokeemon
got my Q9 volta yesterday
on 1st testrun with cople friends, allrdy sold as i think prices will go down pretty fast... the place was crowded with peepz, and this tread has sooo many views :Pquiero decir al persona que ha inventado este ''farm'' mucho gracias amigo! thanks for speaking in Spanish, and by what you say XD JimmyNeutron
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Originally Posted by Nightow
How are the stone summits killing you? Is the Modniir using Trample?
Yeap, that and Aftershock. I guess I need to get my H/H nuking faster and knock them down before they can knock me down.
I'll try again. Covah
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I guess I need to get my H/H nuking faster and knock them down before they can knock me down.
So you are dying at the wall? not the run there? You have a monk to heal you + your healing.
nomoretacos4u
i dont see why this is such a big deal me and some friends and heros could clear it in around 10 mins, whole dungeon in 25, which respectively we could go ever faster if we had a full team but i never saw it as impressive. I realized that technically you could farm this chest over and over months ago but the drop rate is too low for me to have ever cared since it would be easier to just go farm for one
JimmyNeutron
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Originally Posted by Covah
So you are dying at the wall? not the run there? You have a monk to heal you + your healing.
Yeap, in that corner. My henchie monk are healing me as well as my other H/H.
So far, I did 1 successfuly run in HM. Dante the Warlord
Hmmm well i was SSing with my necro, when my team complained that I wasn't doing enough damage. How much does an ele do?
AOD_EaSyKiLL
Yeah, the Death Nova can kill you quick in HM.
Try taking Symbiosis on the ranger, this can get your health up high enough to tank the Nova's, sometimes the Modjiinr will cast this in range, but you can take it on your own. With SF, and Dwarven, plus your own heal and prots from Monk, you will have a nice cache. Havent really run into issues with the summit living longer. Other option is to kill the MM summits first, which is kinda hard with the AoE nukes. In HM I've had many successful runs, sometimes had to use dp removal, but so far 100% success rate. Knock on wood
Mr. Undisclosed
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Originally Posted by nomoretacos4u
i dont see why this is such a big deal me and some friends and heros could clear it in around 10 mins, whole dungeon in 25, which respectively we could go ever faster if we had a full team but i never saw it as impressive. I realized that technically you could farm this chest over and over months ago but the drop rate is too low for me to have ever cared since it would be easier to just go farm for one
Well its pretty nice getting a HM dungeon chest in 3 minutes (minus 2 minute run time), I can see it being profitable since people actually pay for like an hour long run for one with worse drops at doomlore. A nice HM dungeon chest w/ a chance for expensive drops in 5 minutes time total seems pretty damn nice to me, perhaps you shit out money though?
Joe Fierce
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Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed
Well its pretty nice getting a HM dungeon chest in 3 minutes (minus 2 minute run time), I can see it being profitable since people actually pay for like an hour long run for one with worse drops at doomlore. A nice HM dungeon chest w/ a chance for expensive drops in 5 minutes time total seems pretty damn nice to me, perhaps you shit out money though?
I poops 10-30k on an hourly basis, kinda sucks to sleep for more than 6hrs, my bed fills up with gold.
Chocobo1
I don't have any ele so I have to run it using my sin, and I seem to die a fair bit :S I die before I get in range for the monks to heal me. My build is (I dont know how to do it the flash way):
Attributes: 16 Shadow Arts, 9 Fire Magic (for the focus) Glyph of Swiftness Deadly Paradox Shadowform "I am Unstoppable!" Dark Escape Dash Deaths Charge Heart of Shadow Usually what happens is IAU! runs out (16 seconds) and I get trample and aftershocked to death. Any tips? I'm using a fire magic focus to reach 49 energy total but I still seem to run low on energyish. Edit: Attributes. nomoretacos4u
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Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed
Well its pretty nice getting a HM dungeon chest in 3 minutes (minus 2 minute run time), I can see it being profitable since people actually pay for like an hour long run for one with worse drops at doomlore. A nice HM dungeon chest w/ a chance for expensive drops in 5 minutes time total seems pretty damn nice to me, perhaps you shit out money though?
im just gonna say that you can guarantee those times nowadays with how bad pugs have become and you're not gonna h/h it as quickly as you would with a good team. Also considering the time it takes to form a group with people quitting because its taking to long, some people wait a long time before they can even start a run. and on top of that they might fail. and even if they do succeed the chances of it dropping are pretty damn slim. maybe its because i have one that i dont really care but anways it's still a waste of time imo
Nightow
Tonight it's like first the monk dc's then the sin dc's, then the ele goes afk. Oh mi Dios!
Edit: lol, just did a few HM runs as a Arcane Echo/SS Necro. Last run of the night, some ele got a req 9 voltaic and over half of my drops for the evening were onyx and diamonds. That chest hates me with a passion. :S
PinkD
I did 4 run last night, nothing special drop for me. one of the team member got Amethyst shield
AOD_EaSyKiLL
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Originally Posted by Chocobo1
I don't have any ele so I have to run it using my sin, and I seem to die a fair bit :S I die before I get in range for the monks to heal me. My build is (I dont know how to do it the flash way):
Attributes: 16 Shadow Arts, 9 Fire Magic (for the focus) Glyph of Swiftness Deadly Paradox Shadowform "I am Unstoppable!" Dark Escape Dash Deaths Charge Heart of Shadow Usually what happens is IAU! runs out (16 seconds) and I get trample and aftershocked to death. Any tips? I'm using a fire magic focus to reach 49 energy total but I still seem to run low on energyish. Edit: Attributes. Get drunk take dwarven, keep dark escape up to 1/2 damage, deaths charge if you need to right as you aggro tommis, it should be just recharged as you get into corner. IAU is more of a back up if you run outta drunk. snoozer80
If this run works it means nothing less and nothing more that soon prices of Voltaic Spear will drop like Elemental Swords. You can imagine - Voltaic Spear for 15k
 Thats why I sold my q12 Voltaic Spear for 100k and 45e until it will be worth nothing and i wish You the same.
lordheinous
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Originally Posted by snoozer80
If this run works it means nothing less and nothing more that soon prices of Voltaic Spear will drop like Elemental Swords. You can imagine - Voltaic Spear for 15k
Thats why I sold my q12 Voltaic Spear for 100k and 45e until it will be worth nothing and i wish You the same. Well, while this is the natural course of thought, I'm actually not so sure of it now. Having done the run a fair amount of times yesterday (in hm no less) with full groups of human players and not seeing a single voltaic drop, I'm convinced that the drop rate is much lower than some of the people here are trying to make out. I think that some people are trying to create undue panic in order to drive down prices, buy them up at said prices, then wait for the panic to die down and reap profit. Certainly wouldn't be the first time people tried to manipulate the economy with doom scenarios. R.Shayne
I did runs from 3:00 P.M. up to 1:00 A.M. last night in HM with a full party. Got it down to 12 minutes including running, zoning, and going again and we took no breaks. No one in the group ever got a Voltaic Spear so I agree with Lordheinous, I think the drop rate is much lower then we are being lead to believe and people may be just trying to cause panic to drive price down.
Nightow
To be honest, I think it would be really, really hard to find out just exactly how often these drop w/o some word from Anet. However, to provide some re-assurance as others have, here's picture of the voltaic that dropped in one of last night's runs.
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