GW servers getting worse by the day.

vdz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Yes i know there has been a lot of topics concerning this issue. But to me it seems to get worse by the day.

No matter which server i pick, euro, american, international i keep getting massive lag spikes. And it's not only me. Sometimes whole teams lag or dc at the same time. Yesterday a guildie of mine complained about the fact that he couldnt play a decent ranger anymore because the lag killed his interrupting. I dunno if every area zone has the same problem but it surely effects a lot of players who live in the euro zone.

I would like to know from you if you're experiencing more and more lag spikes these days and from what area you're from. This, to get more insight into the problem.

I can live with the fact that ANET is using servers for GW2 or for any other good reason. But stating they didnt change a thing and pretending it's just as it used to be is pissing me off. I RARELY encountered lag spikes in the 2,5 years ive been playing now but these days it just a normal phenomenon.

komma

komma

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

None

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by vdz View Post
I RARELY encountered lag spikes in the 2,5 years ive been playing now but these days it just a normal phenomenon.
i agree to this....lag used to be pretty much unheard of for me, but now its on a regular....all i can pretty much do nowadays is barter....and i know its not just me since my guild has be chirping up about it as of late.

The Little Viking

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

innergalactic gargleblasters

W/Mo

Yea, its bad. It used to be that international was good enough to play. American is out of the question. But recently, even euro is bad. moving on to asia. After that I dont know what i will do. Weekends are the worst though. Most times dont even bother to try to play on weekends because I cant keep connection. I sometimes think something goes wrong when they put in the short term weekend crap. But yes, I fully understand what your saying and yes, it can be horrible.

Gwmaster

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Canada/Quebec

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me and my friend were doing Frostmaw's in hard mode...was a bit hard since we got disconected(yes we counted) 13 times. i didnt take a screenshot of everything but here is a little exemple..

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

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I think there already have been several lag/dc threads the last weeks.
For example, yesterday I was playing and suddenly lost connection, ending up with 007 (first time in a long time).
When I got back several members of the alliance were talking about their d/c, one team ended up with 3 d/c's in one team.

Same for lag, when I have lag several others have it but some others don't (mainly spikes, no constant lag).
Seems to me it's somewhere in the infrastructure and possible outside the influence of A-net. However, it's annoying and I would rather play without lag or d/c (think that goes for everyone)

Rothan Celt

Rothan Celt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Aura

Mo/R

It is getting terrible peeps lag out at the same time i run dungeons and if someone DC's other peeps tend to DC aswell.
I also get completly random lag spikes i suppose its because of all the peeps playing GW now what is it 2 million players now?

boarderx

boarderx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

[PIG]

im haing no problems it might be your PC is geting worse by the day (stay off the pron, LOL)

check and see if more and more of ur PC's memory is being used, if more resources are being used due to malware and crap like that it will certainly slow ur PC down

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

i had lag last time in 2006.. all fixed after spent 1500euros on new Computer..
so no lag for me

xanarot

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

[GoE]

R/

Download less porn, dont use other services (downloads, msn, wiki etc) while playing online.

Im having a hard time going over 100ms in the weekends (late night or early mornin i even get as low as 13ms..) so i doubt its the servers. I can also play america/int/asia without problems (except the language, i really do NOT know what those symbols mean..).

Have you tried running a virus scan lately? Lot of new trojans have been popping up lately.

SmokingHotImolation

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2008

Odense, Denmark

E/

Agreed.
Lately ive had huge laggs, i dont know whats wrong.

007wood

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2008

Where you live

By Virtue Of Power

Mo/Me

How do I change servers eg to Asia outside outpost?

Or is it if I set it to Asia in an outpost it will remain as it is outside?

Shadowhaze

Shadowhaze

Nothing, tra la la?

Join Date: Oct 2007

Same. I never had much of a problem with lag, but over the past weeks or so I've gotten a lot of it...and a lot of 007 errors. -_- Took me 3+ tries to get one mission done over the course of a few days (I got annoyed and just figured I'd try again later) because every time I would get close to the end, I would dc and get 007'd. Very, very frustrating.

vdz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by boarderx View Post
im haing no problems it might be your PC is geting worse by the day (stay off the pron, LOL)

check and see if more and more of ur PC's memory is being used, if more resources are being used due to malware and crap like that it will certainly slow ur PC down
Very funny, haha........

This has nothing to do with system specs. If you cant even tell the difference between lag spikes and a bad fps or any other system/programming failures please dont post.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

I'm currently not suffering lag on Euro servers... and most of the times I've had lag problems, it was due to problems at my own ISP, or faulty routers or other hardware somewhere between me and A-Net's servers. ie. it's usually NOT stuff that A-Net has direct control over. (Remember "The Frankfurt Incident" last July?)

Note the IP address of the A-Net server you are on, run tracert. Run "gw.exe -diag". Log a support ticket, and include the -diag and tracert results. If there's a general problem, and enough people do this, A-Net should be able to find where it is, and even if it's outside of their direct control, they may be able to "lean" on any third parties that are causing problems.

If you're familiar with tracert, you may be able to figure out for yourself where the problem is.

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Originally Posted by xanarot View Post
Have you tried running a virus scan lately? Lot of new trojans have been popping up lately.
Good advice. Don't be so quick to dismiss the idea that the problem could be in your own PC. If you are infected with malware it's likely to make your games lag, as it eats up your bandwidth - by sending out spam email, distributing pron, breaking into government computers etc etc... :-D

vdz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

A whole team disconnecting at once o/e having lag at the same time eventhough not in the same party or district ---> nothing to do with systemspecs or any kind of mallware.

Next to that im running a top of the line internet security here. So please stio the "uhuhuhu check your sytem specs, you got spyware stuff"

Nessar

Nessar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

West Siiiiiiiiiiiiiide

Gwen Has A Thing For [Pyre]

Last night my guild was doing uw. One d/ced 5 min within it. Then we tried again and someone else d/ced at the smites. Also, someone else d/ced at the smites but was able to come back. I was lagging a little too, but my guildies were lagging also ><

While doing eotn stuff, my friend kept d/cing over and over again and could not come back. You know how annoying it is to run someone who d/c's right before you zone? Or at the end of warband? Come on Anet jeez. And my friend NEVER lags, helll I lag more then him....I know it isn't our side when the whole team in uw is lagging -.-

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by vdz View Post
So please stio the "uhuhuhu check your sytem specs, you got spyware stuff"
So what you are saying is that every single person's lag issues can not be traced back to something they might fix?

Obviously there are things a user can try to do on their own.
And these are the things that the user should try first. And because the users here normally do not provide info on whether they took those steps - it's always welcome to list them. If not for the OP, then for additional users that might also be experiencing the issue.

Now if a person KNOWS that the steps they can take will not help (in the best of cases because they actually tried them already!) - they should state this because it clearly helps the person that can do anything about the issue since they get the full picture that way.

I mean, don't get me wrong - I LOVE pointing the finger of blame towards A.Net (Bring back the red crane you bastards! ) - but if there is a chance that the problem will resolve itself if the user takes certain actions - what do we have to lose?



On-topic:
Weekends are quite laggy - weekdays fairly normal.
And yeah - that is when I am not dl-ing porn.
(But then again - I am playing considerably less then I used to - so I could be just lucky ...)

Raku Clayman

Raku Clayman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Marquette MI

Elite Lan Gamer

E/Me

I usually wouldn't post about this, but, last night I was lost connections at least 10 times. I was trying to do the new MOX missions. It seems I was getting kicked at the peak of the battles. Doing NOX was especially frustrating becasue just as I was getting his health down to below 30-50% I woud lose connection. Each time it took 3 tries just to get back in and by the time I resumed connection, my party would be dead and I would have to start again. I, actually, beat NOX by positioning myself away from the exploding Golums, so that when I lost connection I would survive. It worked and when I reconnected, I was standing there and NOX was disabled. Fortunately, when I did POX, I only disconnected once during the fight. I would have been really upset if I had to have started the whole thing all over again because that trek to find the secret lair is a long one.

For all those who are suggesting that the issues are with the persons computer, I have a brand new system with a dual boot. I have an OS set up on a partition for games only. It's a very clean OS, with nothing running in the background. I don't even have a virus scanner running. I don't access the internet from this drive so there is no need for spam filters or spyware filters. However, just to be safe I have portable apps that I can run just to make sure I don't pick up anything by osmosis. So, in my case it isn't the computer.

vdz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by upier View Post
So what you are saying is that every single person's lag issues can not be traced back to something they might fix?
No im not saying that at all. I'm saying that a massive lag spike, which strikes different teams at once, has nothing to do with systemspecs or any kind of spyware. Or are some here trying to say that all those users are downloading porn at the same time and that all the users have the same kind of spyware on their computer?

I know how to keep my computer clean, and i got a system here which is FAR above the systemspecs required for GW.

It is true however that users should check their own systems first, but the facts (people lagging at the same time, people lagging during the weekend, people dcing at the same time) are so clear that it's easy to state that this is not a problem which lies at the users end.

Sol Faithman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

WOLF

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nessar View Post
Last night my guild was doing uw. One d/ced 5 min within it. Then we tried again and someone else d/ced at the smites. Also, someone else d/ced at the smites but was able to come back. I was lagging a little too, but my guildies were lagging also ><
Hmm funny you should say that, the last 3 times I've done guild UW outings (not farming speed runs just guild get togethers) I d/c'd at the smites every time. Strange really, exactly the same spot 3 times in a row.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

regina, yeah right.


yes weekends are the worst, weekdays have hiccups when its fine then BAM! a bunch of dc's in a row...lag up the wazzzuuu and then back to normal
if this is happening to lots of people I cant think that its us....but maybe something close to where the server is???

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

W/

my guess would be anet is shifting resources to test gw2 already.

Michael805

Michael805

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Going Out Of Business Sale [GWII]

A/W

In HA the last few days, entire teams have been getting lag spikes that kick up average pings to 10k+.

In one match, 5 people on my team couldn't move or use skills for ~15 seconds.

Fix please/thanks.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

I'm getting lag now, and not only that, but it's weird lag.

99% of the time I'm now having the lowest ping I've ever had in GW, around 50 instead of my normal 250, but the remaining 1% of the time my ping is about 4000.
And it's in short bursts. When the character stops responding I just leave the game for a minute or two, when I return my ping is 50 again.
The problem is not on my side, but I don't know if it's ANets servers or some connection in between that chokes.

Does anyone remember what the command to start the graphical diagnostic tool of GW was? I'd be interested in seeing if the lagspikes occur at fixed intervals.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Well, its hard for me to judge since I've switched internet connections several times. I have very minimal lag right now, but I am also on the fastest computer/internet connection I've ever had right now.

Really, I think that is a factor a lot of people don't consider. Has your computer started to get dragged down with more applications? Have you moved?
I mean, very few people probablly have had the exact same internet provider, comptuer, and set up over the course of 3 years.

Vazze

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Lag has been brutal in the past few weeks. I have a 15s lag spike in every 15 minutes. Try to PvP with that! And as usual, not a word from ANET, like "sry, working on it", not even "stfu bastards it is free isn't it".
I installed a ping monitor to see where I was standing at and I was amazed to see that on average anet servers had double the ping of random servers on the other side of the globe (and of course the lag spikes came from GW servers)!
WTF, when did ANET outsource the servers to the Mongolian steppes?

beserk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

UK

W/

I too must admit from suffering terrible lags (5kMS!!) in recent weeks, just hope its resolved sooner than later.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

It's either a trick to get us all to move on to GW2 or all those newly unemployed people are now DLing porn which is clogging up the internet.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Seriously, can anyone remember what the command was to enable the graphical diagnostic tool overlay?
Not -perf, but this one: http://s211.photobucket.com/albums/b...rent=gw058.jpg

Red-Tide

Red-Tide

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Edmonton, Canada

[Liar]

Mo/

What I find disturbing is the fact that numerous of these threads have been started and there has been no sign of anyone from Anet, not one response that I can recall. Has Regina posted here recently? I dont recall seeing anyone from Anet around in recent weeks.

In the past these threads would usually get a response from them but not this time...

ProgTes

ProgTes

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Under that rock.

We Demand A Shrubbery [Ni]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius View Post
Seriously, can anyone remember what the command was to enable the graphical diagnostic tool overlay?
Not -perf, but this one: http://s211.photobucket.com/albums/b...rent=gw058.jpg
F10 or F11 while ingame if I remember correctly.

I have a laptop which is perfectly capable of playing GW at 60 fps and a very good internet connection. I do have a ping of >300 ms while playing UW in American districts but I guess that's because I'm Euro. So maybe that's part of the problem but I don't know, it seems worse than it was a few months ago. Or am I getting paranoid?

Shenbear

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

The Eternal Mages

Me/Mo

Everyone needs to remember that often times you have to think of the connections -between- your computer and the GW servers. You are not running an express fiber optic or null cable between your computer and the server. Your signal is being sent to a central hub which is then rebroadcast to the right location, most often more than one time.

There are a couple of things you might want to consider before you all go QQ I HATE YOU ANET as you all seem so keen on doing.

1. Your ISP might be engaging in clandestine (or even blatant) "slowing down" of your network connection. We've seen the court cases where certain ISPs admitted and defended their position on "slowing down" certain people's connections because they claimed that the amount of bandwidth being taken up needed to be regulated. Online gaming takes up way more bandwidth than general surfing, so they may be targeting you. (Don't know if this affects people outside the US).

2. The modern internet hubs take light signals from the fiber optic cable sent from your computer, convert it into an electric signal, route it to the correct location, convert it back into a light signal, and sends it on its way. This takes a lot of time (on a computing time scale) and if there is a lot of traffic at the hub, there will be delays as the machines backlog trying to route the signals to the right places. Thus it is a (probably good) possibility that somewhere between your computer and Anet's servers, there is a backlog. Thus you get lagspikes as you wait for your signal to be sent to the servers or vice versa. This would be more pronounced if it is a hub that all information to/from GW servers must pass through that is lagging because when many people are logged on, the hub gets blocked up.

Let's think a little here people. It's not like Anet runs our instances on set of 286s. Modern game servers can easily handle and process large loads of incoming traffic. If it was a problem with Anet hardware, you'd be unable to load in to certain areas or -everyone- would lag out of an instance at the same time, not just a few people.

A bit of information that seems to confirm my statements: I often play GW with my wife and when we get a d/c, we always get it at the same time and tend to reconnect within seconds of one another. Thus, it is neither our individual systems that are the issue (we both play on new laptops) nor is it GW itself (because our entire CoF team doesn't lag out). It is most likely to be an issue somewhere between the two.

This was shown, as a previous poster noted, during the large lag issues over in Europe awhile ago.

byteme!

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

What is this lag people are talking about? I've upgraded my PC. Overclocked it from 2.53ghz to 4ghz on air and I have yet to experience this massive lag. Are you people sure it's the GW server and not your cereal box pc or bad ISP?

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Originally Posted by Red-Tide View Post
What I find disturbing is the fact that numerous of these threads have been started and there has been no sign of anyone from Anet, not one response that I can recall. Has Regina posted here recently? I dont recall seeing anyone from Anet around in recent weeks.

In the past these threads would usually get a response from them but not this time...
Why would anyone have to respond "directly to this post"? You don't think they get tons of this crap all day everyday anyways? If there really was a problem on their end I'm sure something as critical as keeping their servers up would have been dealt with already. If there really was an issue server side we would "all" experience it not just a random few unlucky individuals. I say you check your entire system and connections before you demand an answer from Anet. As it stands right now Anet doesn't have a solution for "your" problems.

Gwmaster

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Canada/Quebec

N/

what i find really weird..is that while i was getting disconnected in the dungeon, me and my friend were on vent...but we didn't get kicked off vent..my internet worked fine.I don't think its my computer either,i have no viruses..4gb of ram,8800gtx overclocked 1.5gb video ram, quad core, cpu temperature of 30-35 Celcious average..there shouldn't be a problem with running guild wars if i can run multiple copies of Crisis in the background. Maybe Shenbear is right, but a lot of people are experiencing it..when the whole freaking alliance says out loud in chat "wtf got disconnected" "lag" "30k ping" it isn't normal.

Michael805

Michael805

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Going Out Of Business Sale [GWII]

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by byteme! View Post
What is this lag people are talking about? I've upgraded my PC. Overclocked it from 2.53ghz to 4ghz on air and I have yet to experience this massive lag. Are you people sure it's the GW server and not your cereal box pc or bad ISP?
Once your CPU melts, and you're forced to go back to your Dell, you'll figure out that processor speed doesn't make your ping spike 10,000 for 60 seconds, then return to normal. Nor does it do this to multiple people simultaneously.

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Originally Posted by Michael805 View Post
In HA the last few days, entire teams have been getting lag spikes that kick up average pings to 10k+.

In one match, 5 people on my team couldn't move or use skills for ~15 seconds.

Fix please/thanks.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I do get lag spikes once in while in the late evenings not so much in the early mornings.American Server Pacific.

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

Too many people for this to be user based. It's probably one of their link suppliers again.

byteme!

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael805 View Post
Once your CPU melts, and you're forced to go back to your Dell, you'll figure out that processor speed doesn't make your ping spike 10,000 for 60 seconds, then return to normal. Nor does it do this to multiple people simultaneously.
When my cpu melts I'll be buying a new one and most likely faster then the previous. A non issue. Not that it'll happen anyways. Yay me! Btw Dell sucks. And yes on my old system with my crappy IDE HD's, [email protected], and 850XT GW did lag at times. Lagging for 60 seconds was almost expected. My HD's were full. System virtually slowed to a halt. I have 2 gigs of Ram which I felt was nowhere near enough for the tasks that I run on a daily basis. Heat as another issue as well. Heck I could write a whole essay on this but I don't see the point. You know my system more then I do. o_O

vdz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

I keep lolling here at the so called "comp experts" claiming it's our system.
I hate repeating myself because i think you showed some interest in this topic by posting, therefore you should have read it, But franky i think we got some QQ's in the house.

No it has nothing to do with our specs, and no it hasnt nothing to do with our inet. Why?

- No lag during any other online game AND / OR online application

- People lagging at the SAME TIME

- People disconnecting at the SAME TIME

- People expierencing more lag during weekends

Only this last fact alone already shows that the servers are running at their limits.

Remember, we're talking about lag spikes here, not constant lag or stuttering which indeed may be caused by any kind of programming/system error.

If you havent got any major lag spikes at the moment, good for you. Pray to the lord that you wont get them. You're very lucky. You may think it's because ur imba computer rocks the heavens, but ey im sorry its not your comp.

byteme!

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by vdz View Post
I keep lolling here at the so called "comp experts" claiming it's our system.
I hate repeating myself because i think you showed some interest in this topic by posting, therefore you should have read it, But franky i think we got some QQ's in the house.

No it has nothing to do with our specs, and no it hasnt nothing to do with our inet. Why?

- No lag during any other online game AND / OR online application

- People lagging at the SAME TIME

- People disconnecting at the SAME TIME

- People expierencing more lag during weekends

Only this last fact alone already shows that the servers are running at their limits.

Remember, we're talking about lag spikes here, not constant lag or stuttering which indeed may be caused by any kind of programming/system error.

If you havent got any major lag spikes at the moment, good for you. Pray to the lord that you wont get them. You're very lucky. You may think it's because ur imba computer rocks the heavens, but ey im sorry its not your comp.
I'm not naive. I'm not ignorant. In fact at 1 time I was "exactly" like you. I mentioned the "exact" same things you mentioned. I lagged alot. I saw others lagging just as much as me. I blamed Anet just like you are doing right this very second. Your story is nothing new to me. How did I solve my own problems? I bought a new PC. My problems are gone. I am no longer blaming Anet for my problems. Remember I can relate to everything you said. I WAS IN YOUR SHOES NOT TOO LONG AGO. So go ahead and "LOL" at my wannabe PC expertise big boy. Only problem I have left is my ISP sometimes kicks out but again that may be an issue on my end but I`ll have to look into it.

Before this gets out of hand. I`m not blaming anyone or anything. I`m suggesting that some of you may want to check your systems. If in fact it isn`t your pc then good for you. But it doesn`t hurt to find out right?