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Azure mist

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

CAli

R/Mo

07 Nov 2008 at 03:33 - 1

.....OH WAIT!......... im an assasin..... ----->

BUT SERIOUSLY!

So the EoC got nerfed and Anet did not add this on wiki yet... or announce it whatsoever.

There is no more E/A unless you want to GoS + DP + SF..... and i know that's a drag....

There is no more N/a for pits.. I beleive.

Soooo... umm yeah...

the savage nornbear

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Raging Cadavers [rage]

R/

07 Nov 2008 at 03:37 - 2

oh noes my ectoes!

ps; metroid, congratulations n what hast to be your 700th cool story bro

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

07 Nov 2008 at 03:37 - 3

Guild Wars has officially died. No reason to play anymore.

Note to retards: This was sarcasm. Seriously, stop pming me about getting free stuff. Some people are just hopeless. I've never even done one of those damn UW farming run.

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

07 Nov 2008 at 03:39 - 4

time to roll an assassin then
and think of all the gold you'll save from not having to buy essences

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

07 Nov 2008 at 03:44 - 5

Yeay, I think.

Anyways there's still the other method of ecto farming.

Quote:

Originally Posted by the meth

Guild Wars has officially died. No reason to play anymore.

Since you are quitting, can I have dibs on your things?

Jake_Steel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Portland, OR

The Older Gamers (TOG)

N/Me

07 Nov 2008 at 03:52 - 6

I think I only visit these forums for the people who hate the game and the overly dramatic whining that happens EVERY time a skill gets changed.

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

07 Nov 2008 at 03:58 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Since you are quitting, can I have dibs on your things?

Sure, pm me your account name/password and I'll log on and give you one of my stacks of ectos. 2 other stacks are up for grabs to the next two people to pm me their account info.

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

07 Nov 2008 at 04:02 - 8

Can't the terras just bring Glyph of Swiftness now?
And then essence isn't needed. =]

natural_Causes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Hall of Monuments

N/

07 Nov 2008 at 04:03 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meth

Sure, pm me your account name/password and I'll log on and give you one of my stacks of ectos. 2 other stacks are up for grabs to the next two people to pm me their account info.

I got dibs

(jk you can have my account over my dead body)

Winston

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Melbourne, Australia

07 Nov 2008 at 04:09 - 10

So, back to do things the way they were done before cons?

Jensy

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

N/Mo

07 Nov 2008 at 04:09 - 11

I don't get it? The wiki shows the speed reduction, but the celerity I have still says 25%.

Talked to Kwat just now, and same thing. 25%

?

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

07 Nov 2008 at 04:10 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by pansy malfoy

I don't get it? The wiki shows the speed reduction, but the celerity I have still says 25%.

Talked to Kwat just now, and same thing. 25%

?

Apparently it only changes to 20% once its activated.

realtalk916

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2008

California

Reign Of Judgment [RoJ]

W/E

07 Nov 2008 at 04:16 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoomFrost

consumes are noob anyways, nothing lost for me.

they needed em for those UW speed clears

but agreed, im not even trippin, i try and stay away from consumes

Devej

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2008

N/

07 Nov 2008 at 04:16 - 14

What I don't get is why Anet didn't bother including this in their update notes. Are they just stupid and don't know what's going on in the different divisions? Or did they think they could sneak it past us? It's kind of sad that they don't have meetings to discuss their plans.

realtalk916

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2008

California

Reign Of Judgment [RoJ]

W/E

07 Nov 2008 at 04:19 - 15

so is this the end of perma sins? or just the end of speed clears?

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

07 Nov 2008 at 04:20 - 16

I'm waiting for the reason why this is bad.

Edit: I have successfully been owned by The Meth. I consider myself now told.

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

07 Nov 2008 at 04:23 - 17

Perma sins don't need them, it's all the e/a and n/a that needed them for the speed clears.

I find it hilarious that we get threads proclaiming consumables to be one of the reasons that GW has died, and now that one of them has been nerfed from 25% to 20% bonus...GW has died. Again. WTF is wrong with you people...

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

07 Nov 2008 at 04:27 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelgadissan

I'm waiting for the reason why this is bad.

Less UW farming means less ectos being earned. Less ectos being earned means there will be a high demand for money. High demand for money means chinese farming services will flourish. China will become increasingly rich in return for their farming services and communism will take over the world by 2012. With this update Anet shows they support communism. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

07 Nov 2008 at 04:30 - 19

That is pretty funny. I finally started playing again this week. You know what I do? I want to play some UW clears because it's the only fun PUG thing I know, but ursan's dead, no way I can join a team. So I spent the week rolling an ele for this new crap (let me check how many hours I wasted, ah 24 hours on the char), getting him set up. Just today I'm all set up, and I figure I'll study the video's awhile before tenatively trying not to screw up somebody's group... and now you're telling the run is dead? ... Well I was stupid to start playing again right? I mean when isn't this game anti-everything the players are doing.

fog_of_redoubt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

07 Nov 2008 at 04:32 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by realtalk916

so is this the end of perma sins? or just the end of speed clears?

How would this impact perma sins?

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

07 Nov 2008 at 04:36 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

This change was not listed in the update notes, because it was intended to go live in the November 13 build.

At the moment, it's well past the end of the business day and almost everyone has already gone home. The Live Team will meet tomorrow when everyone is in the office to decide whether to do an emergency patch to restore the skill, or to allow the change to remain.

We're really sorry about this error.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...5&postcount=47

R_Frost

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

Me/

07 Nov 2008 at 04:37 - 22

OMG.........OMG..........OMG........the sky is falling, this has to be the next worst thing since ursan was nerfed..........quick uninstall game and beg Anet for a refund because you might actually have to play the game

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

07 Nov 2008 at 04:41 - 23

so the only missing thing are "shadow form", "Save yourself", "there is nothing to fear".

in prevision of those changes i will prepare popcorn for the massive cry of pain.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

07 Nov 2008 at 04:42 - 24

Well it's not dead...glyph of swiftness makes it perma for e/a...but it slows down the killin' a bit. Or you could go a/e and not care at all.

davicams

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Guardians of the Catacombs [GoC]

R/

07 Nov 2008 at 04:53 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

This change was not listed in the update notes, because it was intended to go live in the November 13 build.

At the moment, it's well past the end of the business day and almost everyone has already gone home. The Live Team will meet tomorrow when everyone is in the office to decide whether to do an emergency patch to restore the skill, or to allow the change to remain.

We're really sorry about this error.

posted in update thread

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

There

[ToA]

07 Nov 2008 at 05:00 - 26

The change was needed,im not at all sad about it,no more UWSC..yay!

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

07 Nov 2008 at 05:02 - 27

So where was Reggies post when the stealth "hammer bash" nerf to CoF was added. Guess it is offical, Anet hates farmers no matter what they says.
UW SC'ers, yall been Flagshipped, enjoy!

MiraBlackhand

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2008

Central Colorado

Laid Back Crew [Laid]

A/

07 Nov 2008 at 05:13 - 28

Less SC = less ectos = higher prices

This is a buff for me, I have nearly 3 stacks of ectos that I have almost no use for anymore, great way to keep money indefinitely for any new characters I may make.

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

07 Nov 2008 at 05:17 - 29

Woo Finally it got nerfed, i Never played E/a and never will.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

07 Nov 2008 at 05:20 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyy High

Perma sins don't need them, it's all the e/a and n/a that needed them for the speed clears.

I find it hilarious that we get threads proclaiming consumables to be one of the reasons that GW has died, and now that one of them has been nerfed from 25% to 20% bonus...GW has died. Again. WTF is wrong with you people...

Agreed. GW = Great Game. Guru = Terrible forum community

Dr.Jones

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

07 Nov 2008 at 05:28 - 31

oh man a 5% nerf The guild wars would is coming to an end omg! now to clarify which got nefed the movment and attack or the skill recharge or both?

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

07 Nov 2008 at 05:28 - 32

When I saw the Shadow Form buff and heard it's possible to perma it. I cried.

When I saw the Ursan Nerf. I sang.

When I saw the Essence Nerf. I laughed.

When I saw the Titles Update plans. I prayed to the god I once forgot in hopes that it will be good.

When I shall see the Shadow Form nerf, the "Save Yourselves!" Nerf, and the "There's Nothing To Fear!" Nerf in one update. I shall be so glad I shall dance naked in the streets.

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

07 Nov 2008 at 05:43 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

When I shall see the Shadow Form nerf, the "Save Yourselves!" Nerf, and the "There's Nothing To Fear!" Nerf in one update. I shall be so glad I shall dance naked in the streets.

Yeeech - that in itself would be a pretty good argument AGAINST nerfing them!

Actually, now that I think of it, the fact they changed essence is a pretty good clue they will NOT be nerfing shadow form. If the concern was the ability to maintain shadow form permanently, they would have just changed SF itself and not bothered with EoC. Given the way they have handled SF in the last few months, it is obvious that it is ANet's intention to keep perma SF but to force the player to give up 3 skill slots to do so.

whether that is good or bad I don't know.

On the one hand, it doesn't really hurt the game. Let's face it, there is no such thing as "game breaking" in PvE anymore since it is essentially and irrevocably a single player game now. That horse left the barn with Nightfall and it ain't coming back. so if I can do a few extra things solo and get a few ectos with my sf/sin once in a while, great.

On the other hand, it wouldn't break my heart if they nerfed it either. In many places sf does make the game too easy. And in those places which have counters for sf, trying to use it is a complete disaster. There isn't much middle ground with SF and I doubt that was what was originally intended for the game.

But the fact remains, removing perma sf really wouldn't do a darned thing to make the game either better or worse and the change to EoC probably indicates SF is here to stay anyway.

Orrrrr.....

Maybe Ascalon had a bumper crop of pumkins this year and they really want to help out the poor pumpkin farmers by jacking up the price of pie when it starts dropping in aabout 3 weeks

germanturkey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

[PoW]

E/

07 Nov 2008 at 05:46 - 34

they probably won't nerf SY or TNtF because while using it, though the game becomes easier, it doesn't "break" the game. perma SF, however, does. negating 90% of damage sources all the time is kind of unbalanced, moreso than 80% damage reduction. unless they plan to change up the skills in elite areas (PBAoE).

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

07 Nov 2008 at 06:00 - 35

Now you know what I like to see, all the players especially those elitists who keep saying their skills is everything, who QQ that consumables + ursan + pve skills are game breaking, I like to see them go back to play Guild Wars and watch if the players base will rise again or if pugging has become better.

Its is after all "them"* who says those are game breaking. In my humble opinion, they were only QQ-ing, and has no intention what so ever to play the game at all.

*sits on the fence and watch the fiesta*

dasmitchies

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Sacred Forge Knights

W/P

07 Nov 2008 at 06:13 - 36

The point is why does PVE even matter to Anet or the economy for that matter? Basically a few whiners hate something because they fell like their game is impacted. Not one person i have seen calling for a nerf has partied with me in ANY instance. I am not making your game harder, easier or less fun. My skillbar is MY skillbar you don't have to play it. I hear 1 guy hoping his 3 stacks of ectos go up. Fat chance everyone has 3 ectos and that is why they are priced accordingly. Ectos and shards are only good for armor and as such they will keep dropping in price as people have their armors made. GW IS dying do to lack of interest, not because of nerfing or lack thereof. Leave my frikkin PVE game alone ANet. Get in the frikkin kitchen and make GW2 like you are supposed to be doing before you lose all of us to bioware.

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

07 Nov 2008 at 06:14 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbulger

I'll hold you to that!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Swift

Yeeech - that in itself would be a pretty good argument AGAINST nerfing them!

You two apperently missed something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by myself

When I shall see the Shadow Form nerf, the "Save Yourselves!" Nerf, and the "There's Nothing To Fear!" Nerf in one update. I shall be so glad I shall dance naked in the streets.

Hopefully SY and SF will get nerfed, don't care for TNTF, but I all three won't happen in the same update.

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

07 Nov 2008 at 06:19 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meth

Sure, pm me your account name/password and I'll log on and give you one of my stacks of ectos. 2 other stacks are up for grabs to the next two people to pm me their account info.

Now why would you need those if there is no reason to play now?

4thVariety

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

European Union

ADL

E/

07 Nov 2008 at 06:42 - 39

Sorry, but ingame the essence of celerity still says it gives 25%. Did not try it though.

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

07 Nov 2008 at 07:13 - 40

The description is fine, until you activate it.

Im curious... does this mean that now you basically have to use a candy corn to go along on the speed clear, or do u need like 15 shadow to maintain it?