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haGuildwars may be losing players ......
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Is GW Really Losing People?
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haGuildwars may be losing players ......
But everyone always comes back for the dumb hats
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Originally Posted by czymann
It is kinda funny that people say GW is dying when I see new people playing all the time. Guild Wars was made to play then put away then pick up and play again. Sure there are many that have left. And many of those have come back. I can't speak for other guilds, but mine has been going strong since 2006. Sure some have left, but we have more people playing on a consistant basis than we did in the beginning. Truely I believe what keeps people around and playing is the people that they play with.
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Konig Des Todes
-reads OP and doesn't feel like reading all 7 pages of responses-
Guild Wars, and every game for that matter, lose people daily for the most part. The more people who play, the more often you lose people.
Of course, new people also start playing frequently as well, so while people do leave, people also join, giving a close enough balance.
Guild Wars is dying, but not as much as people think. It's dying because of the lack of new content, those who play are one of four groups how I see it:
1) Grinders and e-peen wanters who won't leave until they have GWAMM+Chaos Gloves+FoW Armor+Bandana+Full HoM+Tormented Shield+Crystalline Sword.
2) Those who are like something about the game: can range from lore lovers like myself, to the scenery, or even the storyline (will get flames for that one).
3) People who stay to talk to friends.
4) New people. However minor they are.
Guild Wars, and every game for that matter, lose people daily for the most part. The more people who play, the more often you lose people.
Of course, new people also start playing frequently as well, so while people do leave, people also join, giving a close enough balance.
Guild Wars is dying, but not as much as people think. It's dying because of the lack of new content, those who play are one of four groups how I see it:
1) Grinders and e-peen wanters who won't leave until they have GWAMM+Chaos Gloves+FoW Armor+Bandana+Full HoM+Tormented Shield+Crystalline Sword.
2) Those who are like something about the game: can range from lore lovers like myself, to the scenery, or even the storyline (will get flames for that one).
3) People who stay to talk to friends.
4) New people. However minor they are.
Zinger314
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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
Guild Wars, and every game for that matter, lose people daily for the most part. The more people who play, the more often you lose people.
Of course, new people also start playing frequently as well, so while people do leave, people also join, giving a close enough balance. |
Zera Fang
Let's point out the difference between 'dying' and 'dead'. Diablo 2 is dying and has been dying for a very freaking long time, but refuses to die. There are people that still play the game and since, I think, they just reset the ladder gave people a reason to jump back on. Starcraft is dying, but as long as another UMS 'Protect the [Fill in the Blank]' is created, people will still play. Halo, at least on the PC game, is dead. The last time I went on there, well, there were two other people playing, both of which had auto-snipe programs running.
What's the difference between the two games? D2/S1 don't have a bigger, better, flashier sequel... yet, but Halo does, two in fact. Guild wars, though, does not have a sequel, yet, so it is still alive. Yes, there aren't as many people playing as there were when the game first came out (or whenever there was the peak population) and, yes, we can point out some reasons for that (lack of new material, immaterial skill rebalancings, lazy GMs, pandering to the noobs...), but is the game dead? No, and it won't be for a few months, maybe even years, after GW2 is released. Yes, the game is losing people, but it isn't losing so many people that the game is becoming unpopulated. BUT! In my honest opinion, I think a good percentage of the people currently playing are waiting on this next big update to see if it is really worth continuing to play or just to give it up and either wait for GW 2 or find another game.
What's the difference between the two games? D2/S1 don't have a bigger, better, flashier sequel... yet, but Halo does, two in fact. Guild wars, though, does not have a sequel, yet, so it is still alive. Yes, there aren't as many people playing as there were when the game first came out (or whenever there was the peak population) and, yes, we can point out some reasons for that (lack of new material, immaterial skill rebalancings, lazy GMs, pandering to the noobs...), but is the game dead? No, and it won't be for a few months, maybe even years, after GW2 is released. Yes, the game is losing people, but it isn't losing so many people that the game is becoming unpopulated. BUT! In my honest opinion, I think a good percentage of the people currently playing are waiting on this next big update to see if it is really worth continuing to play or just to give it up and either wait for GW 2 or find another game.
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Starcraft is dying, but as long as another UMS 'Protect the [Fill in the Blank]' is created, people will still play.
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I don't doubt GW playerbase is smaller now than it was, say, a year ago, but, again, it's in the top ten among MMORPGs wrt number of active players, and is several times larger than MMORPGs like Everquest2, EVE, or Lord of the Rings Online.
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Originally Posted by Rak Orgon of Beowulf
i think its losing 2 kinds of people.
1.The 30 max titles, Choas gloves, FoW epeen types who are "too good" for such a "fail" game the ones who say "blah blah blah i remember when a 20/20 sword hilt was 75K" "GW is Dead" I think the economy in GW is more stable than ever. 2.New people who are shut out by people group #1 "you dont have the cookie cutter build and therefore you cant get in our PuG or team arenas group cause all we care about is glad points" |
I am in group 2, the only thing keeping me playing is that it's something to do to kill some time. Like if I wanted to reinstall baldurs gate or something to piddle about on
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Originally Posted by Rak Orgon of Beowulf
i think its losing 2 kinds of people.
1.The 30 max titles, Choas gloves, FoW epeen types who are "too good" for such a "fail" game the ones who say "blah blah blah i remember when a 20/20 sword hilt was 75K" "GW is Dead" I think the economy in GW is more stable than ever. 2.New people who are shut out by people group #1 "you dont have the cookie cutter build and therefore you cant get in our PuG or team arenas group cause all we care about is glad points" |
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There's no denying Guild Wars is losing players at all. It's an original game with conventional additions and lack of workout towards the end.
AKB48
GW is losing people, games like this always do. (Not to mention GW is the first of its kind) With games like WoW, developers can add areas as they wish, or, on that note, add ANYTHING they want/the subscribers want. But GW can't, all it can do is updates, which then gets into a tiring cycle which people thinks "oh great, ANOTHER update......yay?". Not to mention the countless nerfs which really drives some people off their laptops. And as the game it is now, it is really boring to play unless you have some friends who actually makes the game "fun" again.
On the note of TA, if you don't run a decent/meta build, then don't go there, people are there FOR glad points. Otherwise they'd be RAing. So don't go THERE can complain "oh, you guys don't like creative builds! You no-lifers!"
Of course they don't, they are there for Glad points.
On the note of TA, if you don't run a decent/meta build, then don't go there, people are there FOR glad points. Otherwise they'd be RAing. So don't go THERE can complain "oh, you guys don't like creative builds! You no-lifers!"
Of course they don't, they are there for Glad points.
O Nuxtofulakas
If you remember the number of districts in LA or Kamadan during Halloween event, then you cannot say it's a "dead" game...unless you have no idea what a "dead" game looks like...
Of course, someone might say that all these players are not daily/regular players and play only during the weekends or events...the answer to them is... so what? the fact that there are so many players that check on a daily/weekly basis GW news/events or anything else means that it's not a "dead" game....
You don't login in a "dead" game to collect ToTs if you don't care about it.
You don't afk in Kamadan/LA to get the stupid Hat if you don't care/like the game...
Yes it's logical many players to feel bored after almost 4years but this is far from reading all this crap about a "dead" game.
The game offers the flexibility to relax for a while since you don't have to pay every month like the WoW slaves that are "forced" to play every day cause they paied for it...
Here, you paied once and you have an account forever. You can jump back in whenever you like...the events speak the truth and you cannot deny it...the wintersday is close and you'll see that again...
On the other hand this is a free country and if you feel "dead" you can stay with the "dead" rest in peace and leave the rest of the "alive" GW community enjoy the game they love for years. We'll not miss you.
Of course, someone might say that all these players are not daily/regular players and play only during the weekends or events...the answer to them is... so what? the fact that there are so many players that check on a daily/weekly basis GW news/events or anything else means that it's not a "dead" game....
You don't login in a "dead" game to collect ToTs if you don't care about it.
You don't afk in Kamadan/LA to get the stupid Hat if you don't care/like the game...
Yes it's logical many players to feel bored after almost 4years but this is far from reading all this crap about a "dead" game.
The game offers the flexibility to relax for a while since you don't have to pay every month like the WoW slaves that are "forced" to play every day cause they paied for it...
Here, you paied once and you have an account forever. You can jump back in whenever you like...the events speak the truth and you cannot deny it...the wintersday is close and you'll see that again...
On the other hand this is a free country and if you feel "dead" you can stay with the "dead" rest in peace and leave the rest of the "alive" GW community enjoy the game they love for years. We'll not miss you.
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Anyway I suppose players are leaving, but for those that choose to stay it's still a good game...it's not like Word of Healing suddenly heals for 2 health...
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If you remember the number of districts in LA or Kamadan during Halloween event, then you cannot say it's a "dead" game...unless you have no idea what a "dead" game looks like...
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Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Its simple:
1) got to http://www.eve-online.com/, note numbe of people online as A. 2) go to http://www.xfire.com/games/eve/Eve_Online/ note number of people online as B. 3) go to http://www.xfire.com/games/gw/Guild_Wars/ note numbe of people online as C. Approximate number of people playing GW currently = (A/B)*C |
X-Fire listed about 3,000 users for Eve.
That's about 5% of Eve online users, right?
c = about 8,000 users.
(60,000/3,000) * 8,000 = 160,000
So, you would suggest that there are about 160,000 GW players still active?
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FYI GW had between 5-6 million subs at its peak and I suspect the numbers will go back to that or better with GW2. ... |
Assuming all people bought all three campaigns and were all playing shortly after Nightfall, at it's "peak" it had 1.667M players. And let's not kid ourselves here, many of those that bought GW and Factions didn't even bother with Nightfall and quit long before it was released.
Yes, GW is dying. Why do you think all the servers have been combined?
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So, you would suggest that there are about 160,000 GW players still active?
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Yes, GW is dying. Why do you think all the servers have been combined?
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englitdaudelin
So then it seems to me, with the new big update coming, and the resurrection of the "GW is dying thread," there's a question that begs to be asked:
What would (might) prolong GW's life and cause a significant, long-term stabilization of the player population?
So I'll operate on some of the key assumptions in this thread:
1) I'm with Zinger: more players are leaving than are starting. However, I DO think a notable number of players are starting or resuming.
2) Both PvE and PvP are "stale," in that there is no significant new content.
3) I think the update this week--the title updates and the HoM updates especially--MIGHT lead people to resume playing characters other than "primaries," but this is speculation. My feeling is that Lindsey and the small GW1 team hope their changes encourage people to pick up 2ndary and tertiary characters and progress their titles somehow, to contribute to the hall.
(Otherwise...why the changes?)
So: With these in mind, what could the GW1 team POSSIBLY do that would:
a) encourage pve'ers to get out and play, to not redundantly farm the UW or the poor raptors? encourage exploration, vanquishing, questing, mission play, pugging, whatever pve activity suits your philosopy?
b) encourage pvp'ers to continue playing, adding guildies, and so on? Encourage GvG, TA, and HA? Alter the game so that cookie builds aren't AS dominant a part of the game (if possible?)
Now, I'm going to rule the grand idea of "balance" out--I think it's nearly impossible to achieve skill balance in a way that will please everyone.
So, is it down to content? Would an SF or DoA-style update appease and attract PvE'ers? A monster AI overhaul or mob overhaul? Alterations in rewards for dungeons, realms, and domains? Would new maps or some kind of new "game" attract PvP'ers? Some alteration in the behavior of Halls?
I'm genuinely curious: what would it take to get you--or others like you--back, and "stop the bleeding" that people are pretty sure is happening?
What would (might) prolong GW's life and cause a significant, long-term stabilization of the player population?
So I'll operate on some of the key assumptions in this thread:
1) I'm with Zinger: more players are leaving than are starting. However, I DO think a notable number of players are starting or resuming.
2) Both PvE and PvP are "stale," in that there is no significant new content.
3) I think the update this week--the title updates and the HoM updates especially--MIGHT lead people to resume playing characters other than "primaries," but this is speculation. My feeling is that Lindsey and the small GW1 team hope their changes encourage people to pick up 2ndary and tertiary characters and progress their titles somehow, to contribute to the hall.
(Otherwise...why the changes?)
So: With these in mind, what could the GW1 team POSSIBLY do that would:
a) encourage pve'ers to get out and play, to not redundantly farm the UW or the poor raptors? encourage exploration, vanquishing, questing, mission play, pugging, whatever pve activity suits your philosopy?
b) encourage pvp'ers to continue playing, adding guildies, and so on? Encourage GvG, TA, and HA? Alter the game so that cookie builds aren't AS dominant a part of the game (if possible?)
Now, I'm going to rule the grand idea of "balance" out--I think it's nearly impossible to achieve skill balance in a way that will please everyone.
So, is it down to content? Would an SF or DoA-style update appease and attract PvE'ers? A monster AI overhaul or mob overhaul? Alterations in rewards for dungeons, realms, and domains? Would new maps or some kind of new "game" attract PvP'ers? Some alteration in the behavior of Halls?
I'm genuinely curious: what would it take to get you--or others like you--back, and "stop the bleeding" that people are pretty sure is happening?
Numa Pompilius
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The only thing missing in PvE is new content, really. The graphics and sound are still competitive, the mechanics are still competitive... But the content is stale for many or most of us.
1-2 Guest keys for everyone who owns a GW chapter might be a good idea too.
PvP: Pfffff.... Hero battles can just be killed, it's beyond salvaging. Other than that... I don't know. New maps never hurt, tho, even recycling some old maps might be good.
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Not GWEN-like crap though.
With end-game areas designed like FoW/UW are.
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1. The 30 maxed titles, pimped out players who have nothing to do but PvP in the game, but don't like the way you have to put up an entrance.
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The players who did all there is to do in PvE and are finally looking half a foot away from their computers, out their window, and seeing the sun for the first time in 3 years, and THEN going to PvP.
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A new chapter.
Not GWEN-like crap though. With end-game areas designed like FoW/UW are. |
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Yay.....ANOTHER crap load of fow/uw SC?
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More in the lines of big, open areas, with quests, that aren't "difficult" just because the foes' damage output would be multiplied by 10 million - but rather because they involve some very decent design.
An area doesn't need to be insanely difficult to be fun - it actually needs to be designed well.
And I still consider FoW to be a prime example of that.
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I never think of FoW/UW in terms of SCs.
More in the lines of big, open areas, with quests, that aren't "difficult" just because the foes' damage output would be multiplied by 10 million - but rather because they involve some very decent design. An area doesn't need to be insanely difficult to be fun - it actually needs to be designed well. And I still consider FoW to be a prime example of that. |
englitdaudelin
I'm not holding my breath for a Gwen-sized expansion all at once, but I'd love to see new areas slowly open up for us to explore and conquer--something UW-ish or FoW-ish in nature, but with the some kind of explicit plan to limit trick farming....if such a thing is possible.
Some of the area north of Divinity Coast and the Maguuma Jungle, or what will become the Ebon Vanguard stronghold at Ebonhawk--those mountains divinding Ascalon and the Desert?
The Fortress of Jahai (all of it), Kaineng City along the coast, and the Northern Edge of Cantha? Vabbi, north of the hidden city? The realms of Melandru and Lyssa?
I'm sure Sorrow's by itself was a huge update and a huge task for the programmers...but I have to say, as a pve'er, I would love to see a slow trickle of new areas opened up to us--with balanced, multi-healer and multi-class mobs of enemies, (More like the charr we see in EotN?), and some legitimate puzzles to deal with?
Some of the area north of Divinity Coast and the Maguuma Jungle, or what will become the Ebon Vanguard stronghold at Ebonhawk--those mountains divinding Ascalon and the Desert?
The Fortress of Jahai (all of it), Kaineng City along the coast, and the Northern Edge of Cantha? Vabbi, north of the hidden city? The realms of Melandru and Lyssa?
I'm sure Sorrow's by itself was a huge update and a huge task for the programmers...but I have to say, as a pve'er, I would love to see a slow trickle of new areas opened up to us--with balanced, multi-healer and multi-class mobs of enemies, (More like the charr we see in EotN?), and some legitimate puzzles to deal with?
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I'm not holding my breath for a Gwen-sized expansion all at once, but I'd love to see new areas slowly open up for us to explore and conquer--something UW-ish or FoW-ish in nature, but with the some kind of explicit plan to limit trick farming....if such a thing is possible.
Some of the area north of Divinity Coast and the Maguuma Jungle, or what will become the Ebon Vanguard stronghold at Ebonhawk--those mountains divinding Ascalon and the Desert? The Fortress of Jahai (all of it), Kaineng City along the coast, and the Northern Edge of Cantha? Vabbi, north of the hidden city? The realms of Melandru and Lyssa? I'm sure Sorrow's by itself was a huge update and a huge task for the programmers...but I have to say, as a pve'er, I would love to see a slow trickle of new areas opened up to us--with balanced, multi-healer and multi-class mobs of enemies, (More like the charr we see in EotN?), and some legitimate puzzles to deal with? |
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Konig Des Todes
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A new chapter.
Not GWEN-like crap though. With end-game areas designed like FoW/UW are. |
Personally, I think ANet should have finished Utopia, then bring EN *with a different ending*, and work on campaigns/expansions that are not half assed with what is now known to be the "live team" to be the "GW2 team."
Would have kept things going a bit longer. But it's too late for an expansion to bring back GW to it's former standards. GW2 is the only hope really.
However, there is a way to keep people with GW1. That is M.O.X. sized (or Sorrow's Furnace/Titan Quest) size updates that slowly add it's own storyline (already got lots of loop holes from before and this whole "mysterious stranger" thing from M.O.X.).
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Starcraft is dying, but as long as another UMS 'Protect the [Fill in the Blank]' is created, people will still play.
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Guild wars, though, does not have a sequel, yet, so it is still alive. Yes, there aren't as many people playing as there were when the game first came out (or whenever there was the peak population) and, yes, we can point out some reasons for that (lack of new material, immaterial skill rebalancings, lazy GMs, pandering to the noobs...), but is the game dead? No, and it won't be for a few months, maybe even years, after GW2 is released.
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Wrath of m0o
Well even if people say GW is dying, its still the best "No Monthly Fee" game on the planet. I boycott every game with a monthly fee. It all started when i thought xbox live wasnt worth the monthly fee.
Monthly fee games i have quit are planetside, Dungeons and dragons online xbox live... if wow has 12 million people, i guess they make 180 million a month? I think wow might have had a few million buy the game, and then be like i dont need another monthly bill and quit.
Do game designers really need 180 million a month to supply you a game.
I seriously doubt WoW makes 180 million a month + Sales.
Regardless, GW is still my main game, followed by BF2142 and CS:Source.
I refuse to pay monthly for gaming, and what no monthly fee game has this much entertainment?
My roomate just started with GW Trilogy, so i have two players in my household alone. Even if you Quit GW's it will still be here for you, and can come back at will..with no credit card.
42 months with 11k hours played, i still think this is the best game ever, regardless who comes and goes. I can think of other much better things to do with the $630 i would have owed wow to play their game.
Monthly fee games i have quit are planetside, Dungeons and dragons online xbox live... if wow has 12 million people, i guess they make 180 million a month? I think wow might have had a few million buy the game, and then be like i dont need another monthly bill and quit.
Do game designers really need 180 million a month to supply you a game.
I seriously doubt WoW makes 180 million a month + Sales.
Regardless, GW is still my main game, followed by BF2142 and CS:Source.
I refuse to pay monthly for gaming, and what no monthly fee game has this much entertainment?
My roomate just started with GW Trilogy, so i have two players in my household alone. Even if you Quit GW's it will still be here for you, and can come back at will..with no credit card.
42 months with 11k hours played, i still think this is the best game ever, regardless who comes and goes. I can think of other much better things to do with the $630 i would have owed wow to play their game.
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if wow has 12 million people, i guess they make 180 million a month? I think wow might have had a few million buy the game, and then be like i dont need another monthly bill and quit.
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do u kno how much it takes to fund servers for 12million ppl?
Wrath of m0o
I think i could fit those servers in my condo, and i think i could do it on my 100k a year salary.
Age
I wouldn't say it is dieing just being played less if so then that would be the time to shut down the servers.I don't know about you all but I want my accounts when this happens and something to play it on whether it be on my own computer or third party server say GSA.
I would rather play this game over any time it looks better graphicaly atleast Anet did good on that part.
I would rather play this game over any time it looks better graphicaly atleast Anet did good on that part.
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Also, it absolutely is the #2 MMO behind WoW if you take the 3.5 year average of people playing it. You'd be on crack to think that as many people as who play GW will still be playing LotRO, WAR, or AoC 3.5 years after release.
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I suspect I'm not alone in the group of people who may not play every day, but who do return every few weeks (when I wouldn't return to other games). I judge the health of the population on the holiday events and the activity on the auction website. The peak was around Nightfall. It's dropped off slightly since GWEN, but not devastatingly so. I wouldn't say the game is dying - it's simply maturing in age.
It remains to be seen whether GW2 will deal GW1 a deathblow. Historically speaking, MMO sequels have not done so. Witness UO's two sequels (both of which were canceled), EQ2 (which peeled off so few of EQ's players that Sony continues to pour money into EQ), and AC2 (which actually shut down within a year, while AC1 still chugs along).
I'd rather have had Utopia myself.
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Dallcingi
I pretty much stopped playing so u can count -1 peoples lol
I have just been busy with rl and I did almost everything in GW I want to.
I have just been busy with rl and I did almost everything in GW I want to.
Dante the Warlord
GW has around 1 million subscribers at most, of which only around 100,000 actively play at best. The only way you see a lot of people is if you are in kamadan la Toa...etc. But if you go to the mission districts, they are pretty clean
bhavv
FYI, WoW is no longer the top MMO in terms of accounts, only in terms of subscribers and amount of people paying a fee for the game.
No 1. MMO in terms of account numbers is Maple Story.
And btw, ofc GW looks full... It only takes a few hundred players to fill out Kamadan, ToA, and temple of balthazar - just 1000 people playing at once can make the game look full depending on where you are.
No 1. MMO in terms of account numbers is Maple Story.
And btw, ofc GW looks full... It only takes a few hundred players to fill out Kamadan, ToA, and temple of balthazar - just 1000 people playing at once can make the game look full depending on where you are.
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Unlike GW, WoW doesn't skew the numbers. (because that would be illegal, since Activision Blizzard is publically traded)
bhavv
The thing is, GW is free to play, and by MMO standards, it really hasnt done that well for a free MMO, Plenty of RPG fans actually hate the gameplay in GW - these are the players that flock to WoW and Maple Story because they enjoy the traditional model of leveling up, getting more powerful, better loot, and more powerful monsters to fight. These players, who, going by numbers are the majority in RPGs, dont get any fulfillment from GW and find it boring, hence why traditional MMOs with more levels, grind, better loot and bigger monsters tend to be more successful.
Nanood
I would guess it's losing people and gaining people all the time.
Wrath of m0o
I think GW and Wow lost players because of Warhammer Online. Every time something good and new comes out, people play it because its new.
A good friend of mine got warhammer and says its buggy as hell, and her comp can barely run it. Just wait till Diablo 3 comes out, you will notice a huge drop in wow and GW's activity.
As for the computer i built to play GW's when it was released, this game runs great, and if i want to play something new..i guess im going to have to build a new rig.
And with all the builds i have saved on this computer, i dont want to build a new rig.
A good friend of mine got warhammer and says its buggy as hell, and her comp can barely run it. Just wait till Diablo 3 comes out, you will notice a huge drop in wow and GW's activity.
As for the computer i built to play GW's when it was released, this game runs great, and if i want to play something new..i guess im going to have to build a new rig.
And with all the builds i have saved on this computer, i dont want to build a new rig.