How many people want a-net to ban yeti sounds?

Shadow Kurd

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Originally Posted by M1h4iL View Post
A feature that turns off the sounds made by tonics would be even better.
/signed for this

Gun Pierson

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito View Post
Now that we've cleared up the objections, can we do something about this?
I tried to do something about it, but watch the vultures attack. Oh well, what did I expect anyway.

Yeah they can close/remove my topic, that saves me the embarrasment thinking this community could make a statement.

Aera Lure

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Cant ban people for a feature Anet themselves implemented. Anet should change the way the tonic sounds work, or, implement a feature where you can turn off tonic-specific sounds.

carnage-runner

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I enjoy the music and environmental sounds that are a part of GW... It's nice to listen to. "NGGAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!" ... Isn't.

Ban the stupid sound, it's morally inscensative to those of us with the Wooki complex.

lordheinous

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson View Post
I'm all for Yeti genocide and I'm willing to sponsor 50k (for a start) to the organisation of the extermination of the Yeti. I'm willing to take a leading position in this organisation. If you have any suggestions, you're free to pm me. I just bought an extra account that can serve as bank for sponsorship. Every transaction should be printscreened ofcourse. Same with the buying and destroying of a yeti. It should be all documentated. Yes we can
I am willing to support this effort by selling the couple of everlasting yetis I have in storage for only twice current market value =P

On a serious note, I think an OPTION to turn off tonic sounds in town couldn't be a bad thing, though I have no idea how difficult it would be to implement; even seemingly simple things can be relatively difficult to program.

Also, to the people who were saying stuff about how its like people being loud in the middle of the night.....try moving out of your nice, suburban middle-class neighborhoods LOL. In something like an apartment complex or even a college dorm, you DO have people playing techno at 2 am......and thats on one of the more tame nights

Daesu

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Changed your argument, which can also be used to support account hacking:

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Originally Posted by fenix View Post
The only, ONLY reason people are hacking your accounts, is because all of you are getting so mad about it. If you didn't care, they hack your account, because there would be no reaction from it. This should give you a hint.
You can easily annoy others in real life by just punching everyone around you on the streets then laugh at them. You can pretty much guarantee that they would be annoyed. So the argument to support this becomes:

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Originally Posted by fenix View Post
The only, ONLY reason people are punching then laughing at you, is because all of you are getting so mad about it. If you didn't care, they punched then laughed at you, because there would be no reaction from it. This should give you a hint.
For those who say we should support it because of "freedom", are you saying people should be allowed to beat up, shoot, kill, rape, and do whatever they feel like doing to anyone else? That is anarchy, not true freedom, and a society built on that would never work.

Jetdoc

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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Allow them to make sounds outside of a town, just like minipets. I remember the horrible constant screeching of Kuunavang in Lions Arch, which prompted me to play the game in silence. It was a shame since I actually enjoyed some of the ambient music in certain outposts....I was very happy when they decided to remove those sounds.

Abedeus

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Niflheim

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Originally Posted by Aera Lure View Post
Cant ban people for a feature Anet themselves implemented. Anet should change the way the tonic sounds work, or, implement a feature where you can turn off tonic-specific sounds.
I think OP wants the SOUND to be "banned", not characters using yetis.

Wubbies

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i paid for the game so why should i go find another district or turn my sound of or even effects of sounds off.. these people that use yeti tonics are just kids with nothing better to do. if not ban the yeti noise maybe have someone the keeps repeating/abusing the yeti should get a ban. it's so annoying and such a pet peave . go ahead and flame away.. im nuts and ill prove it and its an opinion. i do leave the disctrict but why should i have to change my sound because of a bunch of kids or change my district.

i have better idea..ban all the kiddies from the game or take their ice cream away.

/signed forever and over and over again

lordheinous

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc View Post
Allow them to make sounds outside of a town, just like minipets. I remember the horrible constant screeching of Kuunavang in Lions Arch, which prompted me to play the game in silence. It was a shame since I actually enjoyed some of the ambient music in certain outposts....I was very happy when they decided to remove those sounds.
This would be complicated by the slight technical fact that the only tonics that work outside of town in the first place are yuletide and transmorgifier, neither of which makes any sound at all if I'm remembering correctly. So, in other words, not allowing the sound in towns would be actually equivalent to removing the sounds from in game totally.

pumpkin pie

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don't stand near them :P~

Simath

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Originally Posted by Daesu View Post
Changed your argument, which can also be used to support account hacking:



You can easily annoy others in real life by just punching everyone around you on the streets then laugh at them. You can pretty much guarantee that they would be annoyed. So the argument to support this becomes:



For those who say we should support it because of "freedom", are you saying people should be allowed to beat up, shoot, kill, rape, and do whatever they feel like doing to anyone else? That is anarchy, not true freedom, and a society built on that would never work.
Taking Fenix's words out of the spectrum they were meant for and twisting them into your own unrelated analogy accomplishes absolutely nothing. What he said was directed towards the topic of this thread not the nonsense shit you are amusing yourself with.

As for the "freedom" argument: this is a game. Comparing assault, murder, and rape to yeti sounds in a video game is about as idiotic as it gets.

Lycan Nibbler

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Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

I didnt even know they made sounds,,, I never have the sound on GW

Tullzinski

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Guess I should turn up my sound, but if it sounds anything like my kids making the same sound over and over and over then...

/signed

Zahr Dalsk

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Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

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Originally Posted by slowerpoke View Post
b& all these stupid tonics
Agreed.

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Originally Posted by fenix View Post
Annoying people in town is always going to happen, be it dumb Yeti sounds or spamming your pointless zrank.
Aye, this too. Remove Hero Rank and Zaishen Rank emotes.

(For bonus points, do away with titles.)

Abedeus

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie View Post
don't stand near them :P~
You do know they can be heard in the Great Temple of Balthazar, even if you are near Priest of Balthazar, and they are near the xunlai chests next to exit from the temple?

Shadowmoon

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I remember when skeletons first came out, and I thought they were borderline too annoying, but the yeti tonic goes over the line, then spits on it. Think sounds should be put on a timer, like /rank and /zrank, or like mentioned b4 add an option to remove the sounds of tonics.

Stolen Souls

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daesu View Post
Changed your argument, which can also be used to support account hacking:



You can easily annoy others in real life by just punching everyone around you on the streets then laugh at them. You can pretty much guarantee that they would be annoyed. So the argument to support this becomes:



For those who say we should support it because of "freedom", are you saying people should be allowed to beat up, shoot, kill, rape, and do whatever they feel like doing to anyone else? That is anarchy, not true freedom, and a society built on that would never work.

That was the most rediculous post I've seen in a long time. Comparing a game to real life fails anyway...but your comparisons have absolutely nothing to do with the topic.

-People don't hack accounts to be annoying.
-Punching random people and laughing would either get yourself knocked out, or in jail for assult.

Comparing a minor in-game annoyance to serious crimes ftw xD

At least it was entertaining though. ^^


To stay on topic I stand by my idea...sounds made by the tonics are only heard by the person using them.

Abedeus

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Originally Posted by Stolen Souls View Post
-Punching random people and laughing would either get yourself knocked out, or in jail for assult.
Okay, then change punching to shouting loud. It would be considered a disturbing behaviour and you would be punished by fine.

Why can't you be punished here?

faraaz

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Join Date: Feb 2008

India

Hey Mallyx [icU]

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Anet killed large tonics on wintersday because of all the tards ingame last year. This shows that they care. (I hope!)

Plz plz plz Anet, kill the yeti! Idk wtf you were thinking but just hit 'em with the mute-stick, and all is forgiven.

Daesu

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Originally Posted by Stolen Souls View Post
That was the most rediculous post I've seen in a long time. Comparing a game to real life fails anyway...but your comparisons have absolutely nothing to do with the topic.
So are you saying because it is a game, there no way you can annoy your fellow players OR are you saying because it is game, it is OK to annoy your fellow players?

The first would be false because this is a co-operative game, there are many ways to be annoying.

The second would show what kind of person you are.

The biggest difference between game and real life is, in the game you can usually get away with it for lesser consequences than in real life. If you are annoying in town, in real life, you get beaten up or thrown in jail. In the game, you can get away with it. But does that mean we should all be as annoying as possible simply because we can get away with it?

R.Shayne

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Join Date: Oct 2007

I have to agree this does need to be fixed. As for now I am happy just to report these idiots for spamming.

Neo Nugget

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No, I think that is a rediculous idea. It's not that big of a deal.

Stolen Souls

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Originally Posted by Abedeus View Post
Okay, then change punching to shouting loud. It would be considered a disturbing behaviour and you would be punished by fine.
Still comparing game to real life. Still fails, always. If I was to use the argument against it that people are using here (turn off your sound)....I can simply say "cover your ears...problem solved", about the person that's yelling.

And don't get me wrong. I agree that the tonics should be stfu. It's the comparing a loud yeti in a game to a real life crime that is stupid.

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Originally Posted by Daesu View Post
So are you saying because it is a game, there no way you can annoy your fellow players OR are you saying because it is game, it is OK to annoy your fellow players?
Neither. The point is that it's something that Anet implemented themselves. There are many other ways to annoy people in game (/rank. /zrank, dancing naked on someone). Yes, there are ways to annoy, no it's not ok....BUT...it won't ever stop. Some people...are...annoying. Anet implemented it...anet can fix it...just like they did with minipets. ALl they have to do is remove the sounds, or make the sounds play ONLY for the person using the tonic. OR, for now, you can sacrifice ALL your sounds to end it (though this seems stupid to me).

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In the game, you can get away with it. But does that mean we should all be as annoying as possible simply because we can get away with it?
Nope. It certainly doesn't mean that. But some people will be, because they like to be.

My argument was not against ending tonic sounds. It was against comparing a game to real life.

Daesu

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Originally Posted by Stolen Souls View Post
I can simply say "cover your ears...problem solved", about the person that's yelling.
You still dont get it do you?

What gives them the right to force us to turn off our PC speakers or drive us out of the district?

The game should encourage people to be considerate and not spam. Not making spammers more effective and annoying, forcing the rest of us to have to accomodate them if we want to play the game.

Mr. Undisclosed

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Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

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How many people want to ban the people who cry about stupid shit like tonic sounds?

Stolen Souls

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Originally Posted by Daesu View Post
You still dont get it do you?

What gives them the right to force us to turn off our PC speakers or drive us out of the district?

The game should encourage people to be considerate and not spam. Not making spammers more effective and annoying, forcing the rest of us to have to accomodate them if we want to play the game.

Um...I think YOU'RE the one that doesn't get it. I AGREE that it's stupid that we have to turn off our sounds, and that they should somehow end it. I even gave a suggestion how to do it in the first post I made here... >_>

What I thought was stupid, was changing that guy's quotes to fit (even though they didn't really fit) situations that didn't even apply to this topic, and comparing game issues to crimes.

KoKoS

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*those who didn't /sign, are either the ppl annoying us, or the ppl that are waiting for GW2 and are not in too often... xP

I'm not in too often either, lately, but whenever i'm in they're just annoying ppl..! >.<

Daesu

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Originally Posted by Stolen Souls View Post
My argument was not against ending tonic sounds. It was against comparing a game to real life.
Playing a game doesn't mean you have stopped living in the real world. You are still sitting down in front of your PC and existing in the real world, so dont be fooled into thinking otherwise. But that discussion is OT.

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What I thought was stupid, was changing that guy's quotes to fit (even though they didn't really fit) situations that didn't even apply to this topic, and comparing game issues to crimes.
Uh...everything is happening in real world even though the VR tries to fool you into thinking otherwise. If you use the computer, as a tool, to be rude and annoying to people on the Internet, then you are actually being rude and annoying while living within the real world.

And as for your argument on crimes, you can still find many annoying things that you can do without resorting to crimes even in the real world. Are you saying it is ok to be annoying as long as it is not a crime to do so?

You can use your computer as a tool to annoy people on internet. You can also use your phone as a tool to call up and annoy people listed on the phonebook too. Either way, is still bad. If ANet can prevent this Yeti exploit with a simple fix, then they should.

Aera Lure

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Originally Posted by Abedeus View Post
I think OP wants the SOUND to be "banned", not characters using yetis.
Ohhhh. There are some replies where people suggest banning players through reporting them for spamming, so I immediately misread the OP. I dont agree with that approach. Anet could certainly change the way the sound works or they could simply remove it. Sure. I havent any problem with that.

Temporary solution is just to turn off sounds in town within one's Options. Really only applies to a few towns. Its something Anet need to look at in the long run in terms of Options settings for GW2. It would be nice to be able to turn off player initiated sounds while still having others on.

Dmitri3

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Canada, almost got to see a polar bear... :P

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief View Post
Who actually plays GW with sound enabled? You either play while listening to music, or while on vent.... I guess I missed the turning point where players actually started listening to the game music and sounds again.
The sound-effects plays a large role in battlefield awareness. Hearing key skills is important while playing in PvP (yeah, even when you're on Vent).

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About comparing game to real-life. It it certainly an exaggeration but it can be done into a valid argument nevertheless. When in a game, you're still communicating with other human beings, so their rights don't stop there. Some people forget that and just hide behind their screens.

Simath

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Originally Posted by Daesu View Post
What gives them the right to force us to turn off our PC speakers or drive us out of the district?
They are not forcing you to turn off your speakers or to leave the district. It is you that is choosing to hit that power button or click on a different district.

People should not be banned for using Yeti sounds. That is ridiculous. Make it so they can only use it once every "X" minutes. Restrict the number of Yeti Tonics that can be used in a district. Preventive measures is a much more sound and sensible way to handle this. Banning players for making redundant sounds is just spiteful.

Dmitri3

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Canada, almost got to see a polar bear... :P

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Originally Posted by Simath View Post
They are not forcing you to turn off your speakers or to leave the district. It is you that is choosing to hit that power button or click on a different district.

People should not be banned for using Yeti sounds. That is ridiculous. Make it so they can only use it once every "X" minutes. Restrict the number of Yeti Tonics that can be used in a district. Preventive measures is a much more sound and sensible way to handle this. Banning players for making redundant sounds is just spiteful.
I shall come as close as I can to you, then shout at the top of my lungs, preferably in your ears. I'm not forcing you to leave, cover your ears or anything, it's you who chose to do whatever you want.
I'm also doing it only cause you're being annoyed. Try going deaf or stop being so annoyed, then I will probably stop shouting.

Not suggesting to ban users, but "banning" sounds. Although I have nothing against reporting yeti sound-abusers while the feature isn't implemented.

Empress Amarox

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Above you.

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Yes, please turn them off.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief View Post
Who actually plays GW with sound enabled? You either play while listening to music, or while on vent.... I guess I missed the turning point where players actually started listening to the game music and sounds again.
If you don't play with sounds, you're bad at the game. It's easier to hear an aegis go off than see the animation or someone casting it at times, etc..

Forget GW music, but skill sounds are key, and Yeti just happens to be under a sound that also are part of skill sounds.

Bug John

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Originally Posted by Achrr The Archer View Post
Why do some people complain just to complain about something? And yes, minipets do make sounds (Kuunavang,troll). +1 For close /notsigned
you fail, minipet sounds were disabled in towns... guess why ?

and I've got another question for you : why do some people waste their time spamming emotes just to piss people off ?

/signed

Sjeng

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Minipets do not make sounds in towns. And when they do outside, it's random.

Tonics make sounds in towns, and they're "spammable". That's annoying.

/signed for removing spammable sounds from tonics.

Rexion

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Asian -Traditional Chinese district is looking for some loving.
go there to escape the Yetis.

/notsigned.

Shadowfox1125

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Empress Amarox View Post
If you don't play with sounds, you're bad at the game. It's easier to hear an aegis go off than see the animation or someone casting it at times, etc..

Forget GW music, but skill sounds are key, and Yeti just happens to be under a sound that also are part of skill sounds.
Well, maybe you need sound; however, those in PvE or low levels of PvP have no need for it. If you're in HA or GvG fine, but that's not the majority of GW players, so I don't find it necessary.

Mustache Mayhem

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rofl I want a everlastin just to do this.. the game is still full of noobs I see, and they need a good roid raging

Zebideedee

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Can't this be made into a poll so we don't have to read every post to know how we all feel on it. Personally I'm getting sick of switching districts every time a Yeti appears when I'm trying to sell things in peace. Plus I don't think I should have to change my audio settings just because of an annoying as hell tonic.