GW2 coming in 2010/2011

A yellow bar with 'to be announced' in 2010-2011, how vague can it get. It looks like they had to put something there, instead of blatantly omitting GW2.

I guess the point is that people don't have to still be playing GW1 when GW2 comes out (or more reasonably, when the beta starts) to be interested in the franchise. They merely need to have enjoyed playing it while they did. We don't expect people to continue playing non-mmos until their sequels arrive, and GW is barely an mmo.

I'd actually suspect that with MMOs, the players who are still playing the old game when the new game arrives are most likely to be annoyed that they're expected to move to a new game and lose their character.

And of course, people can stop playing, hear something about GW2, hop back in game to refresh their memory and hype themselves up that way.

I know what you mean. I'll be graduating from High School that year, and I think GWs won't be much of a priority.

Man, I can't wait for them to come out with Z-Chest number two to get us through another year, eh?

The only thing that will keep my playing for another few years is more armour! Literally... i will play many odd things for a very long time so long as I get to play with customization.

I really hope that with a release date pushed that far back we do see some interesting developments for GW1. I don't want to stop playing. I do love this game, and I definitely need some more motivation.

Wow, this confirms that the past 2 years have been an absolute PR DISASTER for Arenanet. You don't announce a game in 2007 that you plan on shipping 4 years later, especially when it involves informing your players support for the current game will be cut down significantly...

How do they think they're going to keep people around that long? Seriously, their "quarterly updates" won't even do the trick. It's not enough.

Anet's PR team should be all resigning right now...this was a terrible decision.

Not happy with this at all. Another possible wait of 2 years with no new content for the GW fans. Brilliant job NcSoft. Way to care about your NA/EU players too.

My thoughts exactly. "to be announced" =/= "GW2 coming in 2010/2011"

Just be patient people. GW2 is no worse off in its development cycle then any other game. Its not like this is starcraft ghost or anything. And while people may be panicing, remember there are other things you can do in the meantime. Remember, the following games will probablly be released before GW2...
Mass Effect 2
Assassin's Creed 2
StarCraft 2
Star Trek Online
Aion (obviously)
Darkfall

So relax. You'll have plenty of things to do in the mean time.


Edit @poster 2 posts above me, the reason they announced GW2 so early is because they had to have an explination for why they were canceling GW: Utopia, the 4th chapter that was supposed to follow NF. If they didn't offer an explination and were just silent, we would all be complaining about "A.net promissed a new GW game every 6 months, wtf happened, this game is dead, etc." Better to keep us informed then to remain completely silent. The QQ would be even worse then.

well the time table of a beta in 2008 and release in 2009-2010 was just unrealistic imo. also the pushing back and the little info we have on gw 2 confirms this they are still in very early stages of production.

oh boy 2011, that soon?

Well, looks like I'll be playing something else then...WoW anyone? JK, I hate it...but I will be spending money elsewhere...GW is played out for me...pitty.

See this really upsets me Anet! How many different threads have been begging for even the smallest scrap of info? How many of us posters have asked for just a general idea? All the time we're told "oh, no, can't do that. It's all being kept hush-hush for a dramatic statement". Then, as if in afterthought, it's general release timeframe is casually thrown into a FREAKING quarterly report! Thanks Anet, for remembering who your fans are!

lol...
but look how many copies of eotn they sold by announcing it!!!!!
that makes up for it....rite? rite?

Because people wanting more content for Guild Wars wouldn't have bought it anyways...?

^lol it was sarcasm

No GW2 in 2009 = pretty much expected.
But is this source even official and this sort of information certain, or it's more like GW2: not soon but we won't tell anything.

And people wanting new GW content would certainly buy it all if it was worth it - it was a bad move to leave the game to just slowly die before GW2 release.

edit: information is 100% official confirmed.

Hm, I said I had played GW2, but I did not give any indication as to it's level of polish. I just said that development is continuing to progress.

Keep in mind that we still don't have an announced release date. :-)

Can't say I'm surprised that is was going to be released in 2010/2011.

Just wondering, but if it's at a somewhat playable state, why not show a screenshot or two? I mean GW2 was announced in 2007, and we really have nothing.

Believe me, I have asked them to reconsider it. It just doesn't make sense from an overall business perspective.

ur rite, it doesnt...
but must they always look at everything from a business perspective?

edit: lol i type too slow -___-'

You know Guild Wars is an award winning game. It's won a ton of awards, it has a diehard player base and sold over 5 million copies. Though NCSoft brilliant strategy is to push back Guild Wars 2 off the map so that Aion and other newbie games can take center stage ? I'm sorry but this is mind boggling at best and very disturbing.

The information that forms the basis of this thread was from a quarterly report and investors meeting.

I sympathize and understand your position as a fan. I have been waiting for information about an MMORPG that announced production in 2006 (World of Darkness, if anyone was curious). The last information I read was in 2007, basically giving me information that I already know: MMORPGs take between 3 - 6 years to develop. That's it. Nothing more. So yeah. I know how you feel.

As much as we love playing games, this is still a business. We try to balance the interests of the fans (wanting more info) and the business (keeping the product out of the spotlight for competitive reasons, etc.), but sometimes those interests can have tension. This is an example of it.

Pushed back? GW2 has never had an announced release date. There's nothing to push back.

Actually, NCsoft does not determine when we release a game (they have a big say in it, don't get me wrong). They are, after all, dependent on us developing it. If they want to schedule GW2 to launch tomorrow, they could, but we still wouldn't be finished developing it.

Take your time and if it is good old fans will be back. And I need some time to play D3 too.

You're so priviliged Regina, I hope you realise that and I'm sure you do. Must be something to see the game come together. (slightly jealous, but in a good way)

As on the release date, don't know could be true. Still I wanne hear Anet say it. The fact that it might lay on the shelves in 2011 is not surprising to me. 5 years is the average time to develop such a game, which we heard a million times before, but it's true. There are exceptions.

At least we know GW2 will be announced in 2010-2011, they may announce a 2013 release date then xD :S

While that's understandable, you also have to understand that as a business you have to keep potential customers in the know, especially when it's a game like an MMO (being this particular genre is so competitive). It's bad business to show too much, but it's also bad business to not show anything at all.

However, I personally actually appreciate the fact you're telling us that you've tried and explained the situation. For the past 2 years, we didn't even have an explanation for the absence of information.

If they knew that the game was going to be pushed back until 2011 then why didn't they just tell us, instead of leaving us in the dark, oh wait this is A.Net we are talking about. Don't give me the competitive blanked statement, doesn't work when just telling your loyal fanbase the game is being pushed back so we can do more with it.

Anyone remember this statement
For some reason I am thinking about "I,Robot" when Will Smith starts sneezing because he is allergic to BullSh**. It has been a month and what have we learn knew about the storage update? Nothing has changed more ANET business as usual.

You do realize that what she is doing is Damage Control because someone actually paid attention to the NCSoft quarterly report and now it is on ever GW Fansite? If it had not been found they would still be a big blackhole concerning GW2 information.

Perhaps instead of advertising EotN as a transition to GW2, they should have gone ahead with other plans and gave us a regular old expansion...A transition to a game that is YEARS away is misleading. Giving the initial information about GW2 afterwards with all the hoopla gave some of us the false impression that GW2 was already somewhat developed and maybe a year or two out...no, no one actually said that...but why the Hell would someone release a transition to a sequal THAT far in advance?

Maybe to make a quick buck to fund the new project and escape the model originally announced when GW came out: the addition of expansions (later became chapters)...with GW2 in "development" fans won't expect anymore beyond EotN, thus freeing up resources for a sequal that may be 6 years in the future...by strining along fans, you save resources for the bigger, better deal.

In the mean time...a lot of us are thinking that we aren't hearing anything other than "we are working on it" thinking no one would possibly do that to its fans and that someone, somewhere is furiously trying to meet a deadline...one which, apparently hasn't been set yet. Esentially we were told EotN was the transition so nothing else was required of the company other than the hope of GW2...by keeping tight lipped about the fact that there isn't even a proposed release date for sometime in the next 2-6 years...maybe...there is no responsibility to do anything else but maintain silence and put out the sequal whenever while profiting on other titles and keeping servers open for EotN players who go on thinking it means something...Well...some of us thought it did...now I just feel stupid for falling for it...thanks for the kick in the nuts...did my ex-wife send you?

I bought Eye of the North for more areas, story, and skills. The GW2 stuff was a bonus, not my main selling point.

I've ceased playing GW until GW2, because there's nothing *grand* that's new. The monthly tonics are cool; the HoM changes are cool, but that's not enough to keep my interest. I'm not just speaking for myself; I'm sure there are many others that feel similarly. I can wait for GW2, but I can't keep playing GW until then. I will definitely return to GW when GW2 comes out, because I have faith that it'll blow me away.

I'm not usually snobby like this....but how long have you played? Jan of '09 join date in furums...game might still be new to you...don't let my join date fool you...I've been around since before beta as a fan...played in BWE...preordered and played the hell out of prophecies before it was called Prophecies...I might have a slightly different perspective than someone who just bought the game.

If I hadn't been playing for so long, I wouldn't be pissed at all...I'd probably have more to do and less emotional investment in the future of the game. They announced GW2 in close conjunction with EotN in March of 2007, giant PC Gamer promotion and all that...now, no date even set for sometime after 2011...if then...is a bit of a letdown for a long-time fan running low on things left to do...

True no release date has been announced but it clearly shows that GW2 seems to have been moved aside in a sense for Aion and all these other games NcSoft has plans for acccording to that report posted in this thread. So where does that leave us NA/EU GW players for the next 1.5/2 years until GW2 ?

Well...if you play other games besides GW...you won't stress out about GW2's release. It'll arrive quicker that way, because you won't be focusing on GW. It's worked for me so far. :P

Regina - you seem to be hanging on a slim technicality of announced release date. It seems very clear from the Q4 conference call I quote above that Anet/NCSoft have agreed to take more time developing the game than originally planned.

I just don't understand the chaos. If you're tired of waiting for GW2 because you've finished all that you want to accomplish in GW, then quit Guild Wars altogether until then (unless, of course, new <b>content<b/> is released). If you're distracted, then the wait won't be as tedious.

I fail at correctly using bold.

Yeah so true but you know as a gamer that they will have a hard time keeping their fanbase together when Diablo 3, SW:TOR (from Bioware)and the new mmo from Blizzard which many fans are eagerly awaiting to find out about. Sorry but the whole hush hush deal just to give Aion and other NcSoft games more face time is just bad news for GW2 I'm afraid. It seems like NcSoft has become more of a competitor to Arenanet rather than a publisher/supporter of Arenanet games.

What faer said.

So far, all we know about GW2 is a few vague ideas someone tossed out there and a synopsis of the world then. That's it. That could have been turned out in a few hours. Until we start seeing progress (like some real info, concept art, screenshots) that game is vapor. IMO the fact that we haven't seen anything lends to the notion of GW2's vapor status.

The only thing the picture tells us is that GW2 isn't coming out in 2009.

"To be announced" in 2010-2011 means "may be" in my book, at most.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw What faer said.

Which was deleted, but it's what I always say in these threads, so it should be fairly familiar to everyone by now.

But yes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faer Duke Nukem Forever.

But wait, let me elaborate. We have been told constantly, time and time again, since 2007 (it's 2009 now, in case anybody missed that), that Guild Wars 2 development was well under way. Good! It's good that you guys are hard at work developing your game. Nobody can truly fault you for that, though they can gripe about how you essentially dropped your current project into a stagnant pool of filth to go work on your mystery project.

Which is, actually, the problem. GW2 is a mystery. A complete and total mystery, outside of some Q&A and a shaky plot that could have been written up in five to ten minutes in some college dorm room. Where is the actual info? Where are the teasers? Where is the development? More importantly, where is the beta that we were told by an ArenaNet employee that we would be seeing late last year?

The beta is nowhere. The info is nowhere. The teasers are nowhere. And, given these facts, as far as the community is concerned, the development is nowhere.

Protip: don't sketch rough ideas on paper, say "HEY THIS SEEMS AWESOME", drop everything you are doing for it, and tell your customers that you are "well under way" in the development process, giving false dates and false hope to try and drive the community to keep buying and playing your products. And don't send your employees to try and calm the raging masses with lies about what you have and have not told us. These forums hold information from practically the day your game was released onward. We know what you said, we know when you said it, and we can find it with a few minutes of forum searching. So please, don't tell us you never said it.

In short: please put up or shut up. NCSoft is saying your product is maybe being announced in 2010/2011. Given the fact that you aren't telling us anything, we're just going to have to listen to them, and hope we're not being set up for disappointment again.