Regarding the April 9 Game Update

I disagree let them get it out now. It amazes me that when ANET gives us exactly what a majority of people complain about, they still bitch. I cannot remember all the times I have read on this forum that ANET is not telling us anything/not giving us information/ignoring the community, blah blah blah. But when ANET does explain something they take a high hard one with no lube right up the rear from the community. Same thing goes for any new content released, piss and moan for something additional or new and then crucify them when the do put it out. Must be that Easter spirit going around.

Maybe this link will help some of you out: http://www.midol.com/living_with_ur_period.html


@ regina really enjoyed your visit to pre searing on april 1st thanks for taking the time to answer our questions!!!!!

That guy made me laugh my ass off, "Well why can't we have fireballs!, we like Fireballs!".

DING! See this is the reason Regina is working there... she gets it...

This game has a lot of facets... it has a lot of different agendas for different players... some want to title farm... some want to gvg, some want to money farm and some want it as a chat room (pre-searing)... So not everyone will have the same out look on the update because it may or may not touch your area of the game... but we all must agree that the HoM update, combining the entire account to one HoM is worth it to EVERYONE...

But as one person said earlier, be glad you are playing a game that is owned by a company that cares about its players playing it to keep changing and tweaking the environment to make it more enjoyable for its consumers (aka players). There are a lot of games/companies out there that have no update content at all unless its a bug fix. And they already have your money by buying the game... they dont have to cater to our wants/needs... BUT THEY DO! If they didn't, they wouldn't have community managers and skill update tests, ext ext...

So be happy that we have a changing environment and be happy that we get any changes at all. I have been looking foward to this April Update since around November when it was announced... No skill update? Who cares, this update is big enough to not worrie about 2-3 skills getting messed with...

The funny thing about this logic is, what if the tables were turned? What if every month there was a PvE update that shifted the way PvE was played. One month comes along and there's a PvP update, and the monthly PvE update was canceled for that month. There would be the same amount (if not more, seeing as the majority of this forum are PvErs) complaining about it. You can't simply tell them to "stop bitching and to grow up" seeing as they have a very legitimate reason to complain. The PvP meta is shit, and it's going to continue to be shit for (at least) the next month. So please, look at it from both sides before you start telling people they don't have the right to complain.

Now, here's my opinion on this. Playing mostly PvE for the past 3 and a half years, this disappoints me. Skill balances are needed to, well, balance the game. It's something most PvE players don't understand (or forgot) because they run the same thing over and over. Without skill balances, the game would have died a long time ago. Seeing as the PvP meta is currently quite shitty, I do believe that the skill balance has a higher priority than additional storage and other random things. PvE players can survive without the additional storage for a bit, but when the PvP meta is shit, PvPers don't want to play. I don't exactly know what goes on with ANet, but I believe they planned this poorly. They shouldn't have to cancel something important that happens each month for this kind of update, especially when PvP needs balance right now. This better be one hell of an update. It's impossible to please everyone, but it's not hard to piss off everyone. PvErs and PvPers are getting screwed each month, and it's eventually going to catch up.

She gets it cos she's actually one of us already and part of the community herself

have you ever read any of her blogs? she is pretty cool to read

I would say I wouldn't be bored with PvE anymore...

If you know where every nook and crany and pop up and patrol pattern and ect and ect... it gets stale... I would welcome changes to PvE... Ergo why I had 1,000 people say yes and 2 people say no to a new Lyssa or Merlandru Relam like UW and FoW... CHANGE IS GOOD! It keeps the game interesting.

Thanks for the update Regina.

/agreed

If we had consistent changes to PvE as often as the PvP side has then most likely you'd have far less people bored with that part of the game (and often find themselves moving onto other games, not that that's a bad thing).

Well you seem to forget that not too long ago, a change to skill balancing at PvP would mean a change to PvE too. Back then, PvP people would tell PvE'rs to stop QQ. Same here.
Just stop the QQ and be happy you are playing a game that does not charge you a monthly fee and that developers are still developing content and skill balances.

Regina is right, you will always find people that will always complain about something. It does not matter what. So please stop QQing because there is no skill update during this month. I'm sure that if there was a skill update the same people (and i"m being sarcastic right here) will be complaining because the skill changes did not conform with what "They Perceive" as just or worthy.

Has there ever been a time when it did not need balance? Beta perhaps?

yay, no skill updates means no nerfs

Yes, PvP players would tell PvE players to stop QQing. Does that make it right to tell them to stop QQing? No, it doesn't. While for the most part I don't think the PvErs should have been complaining about it, they had a right to complain. No one stopped them. Same with PvPers. If something upsets them and they have a legitimate reason to complain (which in this case they do) they have every right to.

Again, turn the tables. Would you be telling other PvErs to stop complaining if you guys got screwed over for an important update? I doubt you would. Same with every other PvEr telling PvPers to stop complaining. Seriously, cut the crap and stop separating the community based on what they play, and think of them as players. Every player has a right to complain. Every one. Telling others to stop complaining about something legitimate like this is accomplishing nothing, except making you look ignorant.

I'm sure there were months that the game was fairly balanced, but good point.

Linsey recently listed a bunch of people who are working on this update. Most of them work on GW2 full time. Several people have not only worked on this update during their spare time at work, but also have worked on it during non-work hours. A few people, including Linsey, have worked overnight and on weekends to help get the April Content Update ready.

Now, when people see the final product, they might wonder what was so difficult or why it was so time-consuming. On the surface, maybe people will think that it looks "easy" but game development is actually very complex, as we referenced in the original message. When you change one thing, a lot of other parts of the game are affected, and sometimes unpredictable bugs crop up. That's the nature of the beast. We are sorry that we don't have the testing resources to devote to the skill balances this month. We know that many players are disappointed and upset about this. We had to make this decision to ensure the stability of the April Content Update.

You know, the complaints that skill updates make the game more interesting because you have to change up what you use and etc. make me wonder.

Do people never try out new things just for the fun of it? Why do they need a skill update to force change? I mean, when I get bored with something, I don't wait for something else to make me change what I'm doing - I just mix it up on my own.

Maybe that's just me, though.

And what makes you think that I'm only PvE? I never said that no one should complain. As you said, all of us have the right to complain but at a certain level. The April update had been announced for a long time and GW community have been waiting for this update for a long time.

Regina gave a very good explanation of what the developers considered important. They choose to go with one update instead of two since both of these are time consuming.
If you look up my messages I supported both PvE and PvP when the complain was just. This time I'm taking the side of the developers, I'm not going for PvE at all because the skill balances would not affect PvE. But the majority of the changes for this major update will affect all players the same with the storage and the armor wardrobe....

And please stop lecturing and cut your own crap....

No offense but all i can see in Mrs Buenaobra post is :"blahblahblah" that is to say she's doing her job: she communicates with us, she posts what we want to read and what is plain and obvious. Instead of cooling down the debate, it fuels it again, all the more that she is bringing forth the problem of people working on updates and thus fueling the classical yet annoying debate about whether people balancing skills are qualified for this task.
Well done !

PvP is competitive. Most play to win. You win by running the most effective skills, not by trying new things for fun. That's what PvE is for. That's why PvP needs skill balance.

Because if you PvP'd you'd realize the importance of skill balancing, and understand why people are complaining. Yes, there is a good explanation of why there is no skill balance, but that doesn't mean people can't complain when it not only negatively affects them, but the game.

And I'm not lecturing you, thanks. If you don't like my replies, feel free to not reply.

I hope that the PvP reaches that balance soon and everyone is happy with it. I might dive in at that point

This is just me but, honestly, i dont care about a skill balance. ok the HA meta is gay, but its always been that way, theres always some imba build that your all bitching about. its never going to change. theres always going to be those innovative builds(Mathway, IWAY, Contagion Pressure, Sway, Hway, bspike, kappa-spike). innovation is good. imagine how boring HA would be if everyone ran the same cookie-cutter balanced.

people use the best things to win. if you dont forcibly take it away they will just keep using it. and theres no guarantee the group youre going up against would be so willing to "mix it up lulz".