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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
Maybe a middle ground?
A Lot of people have said they would buy for $5, so why not two tabs for $10 and leave it at that? |
Regarding the April 9 Game Update
Gli
king swift
$10 per tab. Vs. $10 for something I can touch.
No contest. Not spending $10 on a virtual locker.
No contest. Not spending $10 on a virtual locker.
snaek
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Originally Posted by lonesamurai
Maybe a middle ground?
A Lot of people have said they would buy for $5, so why not two tabs for $10 and leave it at that? |
1 tab = $10
2 tabs = $15 (save $5)
4 tabs = $25 (save $15)
i think many people who actually will buy the tabs, will most likely buy all 4 tabs if a deal like this is in place.
Lonesamurai
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Originally Posted by snaek
i think this is a good idea...or at least something similar like:
1 tab = $10 2 tabs = $15 4 tabs = $25 i think many people who actually will buy the tabs, will most likely buy all 4 tabs if a deal like this is in place. |
but I've spoken to Regina about it and apparently a lot of these ideas already came up and the $10 was the most fair/standardised one, just as she's already posted in the thread
maraxusofk
Or you know, you can spend $10 on a new character slot which can hold 45 slots.
Or maybe spend 20 on a new account so you can hold even more gear.
Or maybe spend 20 on a new account so you can hold even more gear.
Yichi
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Originally Posted by maraxusofk
Or you know, you can spend $10 on a new character slot which can hold 45 slots.
Or maybe spend 20 on a new account so you can hold even more gear. |
_Nihilist_
ANet knows that some people will pay for the convenience of having it available as a Xunlai Storage Tab vs. having another mule/account.
If you want the convenience, you'll cough up the price. If not, you'll either find a more cost-effective alternative or not give a damn.
If you want the convenience, you'll cough up the price. If not, you'll either find a more cost-effective alternative or not give a damn.
Sword Hammer Axe
Meh. It's fine. I'm still a little annoyed about the April's fool. The Shroud Of Silence would have been a great skill to use in PvP to make people shut up XD
Lourens
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Originally Posted by Sword Hammer Axe
Meh. It's fine. I'm still a little annoyed about the April's fool. The Shroud Of Silence would have been a great skill to use in PvP to make people shut up XD
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*Silence I Kill You!*
Snow Bunny
They parade around this vaunted April update, this huge piece of code they have been toting around. They stall a badly needed skill update for this update. We find out that the update is storage that will cost us extra money. Not only extra money, but they're so oblivious of their own markets that they don't understand that consumers can buy new accounts for the same price, much less storage.
Regina only comes out when there's a salvo of hatred at Anet - never when we ask about useful things like "HEY THERE'S 50,000 BROKEN SKILLS RIGHT NOW AND IT'S RUINING YOUR GAME".
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Regina only comes out when there's a salvo of hatred at Anet - never when we ask about useful things like "HEY THERE'S 50,000 BROKEN SKILLS RIGHT NOW AND IT'S RUINING YOUR GAME".
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Lourens
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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
They parade around this vaunted April update, this huge piece of code they have been toting around. They stall a badly needed skill update for this update. We find out that the update is storage that will cost us extra money. Not only extra money, but they're so oblivious of their own markets that they don't understand that consumers can buy new accounts for the same price, much less storage.
Regina only comes out when there's a salvo of hatred at Anet - never when we ask about useful things like "HEY THERE'S 50,000 BROKEN SKILLS RIGHT NOW AND IT'S RUINING YOUR GAME". Also - Your Picture |
A11Eur0
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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
Hi, cloud. I understand your perspective on this. I've been keeping an eye on the community response on this. I've already spoken to folks in the business team several times and conveyed all of the different responses to the storage update, including the opinions that it's "overpriced". We know that some people will choose not to buy this feature for any number of reasons. However, we've also seen a large number of comments from people who intend to buy it.
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Siirius Black
As Regina stated above, The Marketing team decided to leave the current price because x% of people indicated that they will purchase the storage for $10 a tab. I don't see anyway that Anet will come down to $5 a tab. You see, they are betting on those people who will purchase the tab at $10.00 (lets say 50%) plus those who later will decide on purchasing a new char slot, plus those who later will buy the storage tab.
If they lower the price to $5, and lets say 85% purchase the tab, they still make more money with the first scenario. Even if the number of people who purchased the tab is less. That is 50 people = $500, 85 people = 425, not counting those who will buy another char slot, etc (50 and 85 are used as an example).That's why I don't think the price its going to change. Don't get me wrong, they are here to make money and I'm not against that.
Let the update come in and don't worry about purchasing or not a tab that you might not really need. We all had high expectations on this update, some people believe Anet met expectations, others disagree. It really is in the eye of the beholder.
I for one, I consider this tread closed, since there's no possibility of any change.
Good for you if you decide to buy or not a tab. Lets just finish this.
If they lower the price to $5, and lets say 85% purchase the tab, they still make more money with the first scenario. Even if the number of people who purchased the tab is less. That is 50 people = $500, 85 people = 425, not counting those who will buy another char slot, etc (50 and 85 are used as an example).That's why I don't think the price its going to change. Don't get me wrong, they are here to make money and I'm not against that.
Let the update come in and don't worry about purchasing or not a tab that you might not really need. We all had high expectations on this update, some people believe Anet met expectations, others disagree. It really is in the eye of the beholder.
I for one, I consider this tread closed, since there's no possibility of any change.
Good for you if you decide to buy or not a tab. Lets just finish this.
Jessyi
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Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Interesting...sounds like a long-winded way of saying "people will buy it, so we'll charge it, so piss off."
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Don't like it? Then don't buy it. That's how business works. They don't owe you anything. They've given you what you've paid for. You're not entitled to any more.
Daesu
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Originally Posted by Jessyi
And why shouldn't they say that? Business is about making profits, and if this is the most profitable avenue to take, then it's the course they should take.
Don't like it? Then don't buy it. That's how business works. They don't owe you anything. They've given you what you've paid for. You're not entitled to any more. |
If they think that they can get more profits from selling them at $10/tab, they would do so. If they think that they can get more profits from selling them at $5/tab instead, they would do so too and sell them at whatever price maximizes profit. Currently, they think that $10/tab would give them more profit based on their projections and that is the reason. It is all business.
byteme!
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Originally Posted by Sword Hammer Axe
Meh. It's fine. I'm still a little annoyed about the April's fool. The Shroud Of Silence would have been a great skill to use in PvP to make people shut up XD
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Perma-silencing a lippy opposition would be pretty sweet.
Rygar_UK
Over here in the UK, we can pick up the complete collection of all games for £25, which is around $35-40 I think at the moment (possibly less)
Now, faced with paying $10 (who knows - £5-10) per storage addon, then I know which I'll be buying.
Buying a new complete collection will allow me to start a few new chars, and give me... 8 x 45 personal storage, plus 4 x 20 xunai storage.
(Plus I can make a paragon, which I don't have at the mo - lol)
The storage upgrades being offered in the April update are nowhere near the same league as a brand new box. (3rd account for me - GWx2 FTW!)
Chunks aka Rygar Uk
Now, faced with paying $10 (who knows - £5-10) per storage addon, then I know which I'll be buying.
Buying a new complete collection will allow me to start a few new chars, and give me... 8 x 45 personal storage, plus 4 x 20 xunai storage.
(Plus I can make a paragon, which I don't have at the mo - lol)
The storage upgrades being offered in the April update are nowhere near the same league as a brand new box. (3rd account for me - GWx2 FTW!)
Chunks aka Rygar Uk
Lourens
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Originally Posted by Rygar_UK
Over here in the UK, we can pick up the complete collection of all games for £25, which is around $35-40 I think at the moment (possibly less)
Now, faced with paying $10 (who knows - £5-10) per storage addon, then I know which I'll be buying. Buying a new complete collection will allow me to start a few new chars, and give me... 8 x 45 personal storage, plus 4 x 20 xunai storage. (Plus I can make a paragon, which I don't have at the mo - lol) The storage upgrades being offered in the April update are nowhere near the same league as a brand new box. (3rd account for me - GWx2 FTW!) Chunks aka Rygar Uk |
(Payed bout ~150euro for the same )
Rygar_UK
Yeah, £24.99 - and that includes delivery.
www.play.com
(just checked - currently out of stock - prob be back in stock later this week)
www.play.com
(just checked - currently out of stock - prob be back in stock later this week)
BurningFeetMan
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Originally Posted by king swift
$10 per tab. Vs. $10 for something I can touch.
No contest. Not spending $10 on a virtual locker. |
Speaking of Guildwars 2, I hope Anet completely remove the entire mechanics of Guildwars 1, and start a fresh with out numbers. I'm sick of +60 armour, and levelling off at level 20, and balancing 9 with 12 attribute points, and having plus 17% damage against dwarves...
Seriously, that system is great if you're rolling a dice, but your average gaming computer is slightly more advanced than a die, and thus all of this mechanics business should be hidden and MMORPG's can finally evolve into something less... mathematical.
But regarding the April Update, yeah. $10 is nothing.
Sjeng
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Originally Posted by Siirius Black
As Regina stated above, The Marketing team decided to leave the current price because x% of people indicated that they will purchase the storage for $10 a tab. I don't see anyway that Anet will come down to $5 a tab. You see, they are betting on those people who will purchase the tab at $10.00 (lets say 50%) plus those who later will decide on purchasing a new char slot, plus those who later will buy the storage tab.
If they lower the price to $5, and lets say 85% purchase the tab, they still make more money with the first scenario. Even if the number of people who purchased the tab is less. That is 50 people = $500, 85 people = 425, not counting those who will buy another char slot, etc (50 and 85 are used as an example).That's why I don't think the price its going to change. |
GWx2 ftw.
Siirius Black
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Originally Posted by Sjeng
I seriously doubt 50% of the playerbase will spend $10,- on a xunlai tab. If Anet is betting on those numbers, they're betting wrong. $5,- is more like it, and will probably net them more income, but to me that's still too expensive.
GWx2 ftw. |
BurningFeetMan
People get so angry in these forums, it's hilarious. 
$10 = 3 bags of chips
$10 = 4 cans of soft drink
$10 = 2 energy drinks
$10 = Could make you slightly happier in your Guildwars adventures, or you can stay bitter about the whole thing, and bitch bitch bitch.
$10 = 3 bags of chips
$10 = 4 cans of soft drink
$10 = 2 energy drinks
$10 = Could make you slightly happier in your Guildwars adventures, or you can stay bitter about the whole thing, and bitch bitch bitch.
Lourens
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Originally Posted by BurningFeetMan
People get so angry in these forums, it's hilarious.
$10 = 3 bags of chips $10 = 4 cans of soft drink $10 = 2 energy drinks $10 = Could make you slightly happier in your Guildwars adventures, or you can stay bitter about the whole thing, and bitch bitch bitch. |
6 cans of soft drinks
30 energy drinks (30 cent each)
Skye Marin
I'm imagining their promotion will be 4 tabs plus the bonus 5th tab for $19.99. The $9.99 pricing mostly because $5.00 is eaten up pretty quickly by transaction costs, and to make buying all 5 tabs look like a much better deal.
Besides, with all the bitching here how the tabs should be $5.00, getting 5 tabs for $19.99 will seem like a steal.
Besides, with all the bitching here how the tabs should be $5.00, getting 5 tabs for $19.99 will seem like a steal.
Lourens
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Originally Posted by Skye Marin
I'm imagining their promotion will be 4 tabs plus the bonus 5th tab for $19.99. The $9.99 pricing mostly because $5.00 is eaten up pretty quickly by transaction costs, and to make buying all 5 tabs look like a much better deal.
Besides, with all the bitching here how the tabs should be $5.00, getting 5 tabs for $19.99 will seem like a steal. |
I thought there would only be 4.
Firestone
it's abt $20 of my local currency per tab. (including conversion rate + credit card transaction fees)...
assuming tht i buy 4 tabs (max) at 1 go, that's a cool $80 i have to fork out
that's about 50% of the price of a PSP set / 15 full set meal at macdonald / 3 months supply of baby milk powder / 2 months supply of diapers..
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or about 2 months of lunch $$
the pricing model make no sense to me as well..
assuming tht i buy 4 tabs (max) at 1 go, that's a cool $80 i have to fork out
that's about 50% of the price of a PSP set / 15 full set meal at macdonald / 3 months supply of baby milk powder / 2 months supply of diapers..
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or about 2 months of lunch $$
the pricing model make no sense to me as well..
Society
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Originally Posted by BurningFeetMan
People get so angry in these forums, it's hilarious.
$10 = 3 bags of chips $10 = 4 cans of soft drink $10 = 2 energy drinks $10 = Could make you slightly happier in your Guildwars adventures, or you can stay bitter about the whole thing, and bitch bitch bitch. |
Zahr Dalsk
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Originally Posted by Sjeng
I seriously doubt 50% of the playerbase will spend $10,- on a xunlai tab. If Anet is betting on those numbers, they're betting wrong. $5,- is more like it, and will probably net them more income, but to me that's still too expensive.
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slowerpoke
Does the big update hit this week, Thursday 23rd April?
Lonesamurai
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Originally Posted by slowerpoke
Does the big update hit this week, Thursday 23rd April?
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But I have a show lined up Thursday night for the start of the event, so EITHER, we'll be discussing the Update and the Evolution of the classes over the last four years, OR, we'll be discussing our thoughts andhopes for the update and also the evolution of the classes
slowerpoke
It make sense it would be out Thursday, but the "Fourth Anniversary Update" pages make no mention of when.
Edit: well maybe "The festivities begin on Thursday, April 23 after the live update". Not exactly solid.
Edit: well maybe "The festivities begin on Thursday, April 23 after the live update". Not exactly solid.
RupDur78
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Originally Posted by Lourens
5 tabs?
I thought there would only be 4. |
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Originally Posted by Linsey Murdock
Free bonus pane is a 5th pane. Confirmed. I agree with you that a lot of towns are annoyingly set up which is why I did passes on all the NF and EotN towns before release to try to streamline the merchants and storage placement. I'd like to do that for Prophecies and Factions as well but I don't have time right now. - Image:User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 19:16, 20 April 2009 (UTC) http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...ock#Storage.3F
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Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by BurningFeetMan
People get so angry in these forums, it's hilarious.
$10 = 3 bags of chips $10 = 4 cans of soft drink $10 = 2 energy drinks $10 = Could make you slightly happier in your Guildwars adventures, or you can stay bitter about the whole thing, and bitch bitch bitch. |
$10 = 6 bottles of soda
$10 = 6 energy drinks
$10 = 1 Guild Wars account
$10 = The amount of money your father paid for your mother
hallomik
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Originally Posted by RupDur78
nope there will be 5.
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OrionVolaju
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Originally Posted by Lourens
10 bags of chips
6 cans of soft drinks 30 energy drinks (30 cent each) |
Wish Swiftdeath
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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
$10 = 10 bags of chips
$10 = The amount of money your father paid for your mother |
I just don't understand why people are upset, you don't have to buy it to continue to play GW, Anet are already (not including the promotion - w/e that is) giving you a free tab.
For those of you saying that you can buy another account for $10: GO DO IT.
You can't tell coca cola how much to charge for a coke just because you drink it.
darkknightkain
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Originally Posted by Sjeng
I seriously doubt 50% of the playerbase will spend $10,- on a xunlai tab. If Anet is betting on those numbers, they're betting wrong. $5,- is more like it, and will probably net them more income, but to me that's still too expensive.
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If you look at the other thread (the poll thread, that has roughly settled by now), roughly 30% (option 3+4) voted indicated $10 price tag is fair. However, even if setting the price at $5 can please all of the option2 crowd, at most there is still only 54% (option 2+3+4) voted indicated interest.
10 x (30% of X) > 5 x (54% of X)
Setting a price of $10 may actually be a better bet than setting it at $5. Anet's initial assumption is pretty right on.
Martian_Kyo
The amount of whine in this thread would put even italy and france to shame.
One month without skill balance updates. You'll live through it.
If you are still angry about it, you could always protest by not paying your gw subscription.
One month without skill balance updates. You'll live through it.
If you are still angry about it, you could always protest by not paying your gw subscription.
MithranArkanere
Party starts the 23rd, so it's likely the day.