Guild Wars 4th Aniversary

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Wasn't particularly in need for extra storage, so I'm happy to see some more new stuff is going to be implemented. Zaishen Quests sounds interesting (with proper rewards), and the Zaishen Manegerie sounds promising too.

Ah crap, nothing about a book storage...

Falling Petal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by snaek View Post
except those that were unable to access the in-game store, which was a common problem in europe i heard...i'm not sure what the status about that is now
That was the bit in my first post where I was asking about people outside of the USA, etc. I think I should have written the whole thing out more clearly tbh :/ I purposely left the post a bit vauge as they said 'details to follow later' so asking for details now would be pointless - except I thought it would be reasonable to ask if it would be something all players could get, rather than the detail of how it was done.

~~~~~

On a seperate note, when I first read that they were charging for storage tabs I was surprised and a little taken aback, but I think these things about it:

* Optional extras you don't >have< to buy are way better than a monthly fee, the company still has a stream of money, but players can choose of their own free will if they want to pay.

* As some other people pointed out, the 'junk' we store will just expand to fill the available space so you could just try living without it and spend no money.

* The main thing I was hoping for was the ability to store several different types of armour and also weapons - and we all get that for every character for free - woot

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

The price per pane just seems ridiculous compared to buying a new character or account for that matter, especially when you take into account these new gear bags. It should be $5 to even approach the same benefit of buying a character slot.

What would be really awesome- if these gear bags can take the same spot of regular bags and give more slots (15-20). Then you'd have a ton of new inventory space if you sort it right. Either way this is awesome for those of us carrying around tons of PvP equipment swaps. New requested feature: when weapon swapping, equipment should try to go to this bag if there is room. That would make organizing so much easier...

I'm curious what the "unlock" stuff in the menagerie is about. Does that mean this is account wide? Like I can get a dire phoenix on one character, add it to the menagerie, and then any other character can take it out for a spin... including pvp chars? A very welcome addition then. Now all I need is a space for lvl 5 wolf for IWAY.

go cubs

go cubs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

Chicago

[SIR]

D/

eh...Im warming up to it....i guess they deserve it....just been a bad day and am getting very easily frustrated...I guess its fine and i dont need it anyway

Im pumped for everything else definantly...just my view is tainted a bit when i would have to spend 50 bucks to get the "complete package"

riktw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

netherlands

Mo/E

i came
but only paying is annoing, i made lame paypal for bonus mission pack Q_Q.

isildorbiafra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Netherlands

W/

The promotional 5th tab is a tab containing every miniature pet ever released since god created man. Only 5 will be awarded at random.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

very cool =D what about hall of monument update? =(

Jecht Scye

Jecht Scye

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Lucky Crickets[Luck]

N/Me

Bravo Anet, It looks like you're going to deliver on your promise. I can't wait for the update.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxBat View Post
What would be really awesome- if these gear bags can take the same spot of regular bags and give more slots (15-20). Then you'd have a ton of new inventory space if you sort it right. Awesome for those of us carrying around tons of PvP equipment swaps.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GW.com
# Equipment Packs in assorted sizes, designed solely to hold weapons and armor (gear).
# Every character will get a fifth slot for an Equipment Pack.
So only one 'bag'. Although we don't know how much this bag can hold. (infite armor/weapons? please?)

Professor K

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

Mo/A

Equipment Packs for Armor and Weapons - FREE
Bonus Storage Pane Giveaway - FREE
New Balthazar Island for Pet Storage - FREE
Zaishen Challenge Quests in PVE and PVP Flavors - FREE
Account Wide Hall of Monuments - FREE
4th Anniversary (Boardwalk Games, Cupcakes, New Minis) - FREE

and

Optional Extra Storage Panes - 10 bucks each

Looks fine to me.

Snoflake_Necro

Snoflake_Necro

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2007

The land of Oz

Pirates Merchants and Scoundrels [PMS]

N/Rt

I'm concerned about the 'promotional' nature of the free storage tab. We here in Oz tend to miss out on promotional stuff as we aren't America, we aren't Europe and we aren't Asia (I'm looking at you collectors ed of Prophecies!!! ) If it's released in a mag, we don't get it for a month and then it's been removed half the time.

Please, please aNet, please tell me we in the downunder aren't going miss out again.

Siirius Black

Siirius Black

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Dragon's Lair

La Legion Del Dragon

E/

Well finally the promised update is here. I expected to pay some money for the extra features, but not $9.99. Compared to a new character slot, my money would be best invested in one of those.

As far as the promotion, if its going to be like the bonus missions that supposedly where available for a short time and then made available later... well we'll see.

I have to say, thank you anet at least for the space given to store my armor. I do believe $9.99 for a tab is way too expensive. I think $5.00 would have been a better "fair" prize. I'll just go with the extra slot. That would get me a free mini and I can play with that one too.

Apollo Smile

Apollo Smile

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

[LORE]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snoflake_Necro View Post
I'm concerned about the 'promotional' nature of the free storage tab. We here in Oz tend to miss out on promotional stuff as we aren't America, we aren't Europe and we aren't Asia (I'm looking at you collectors ed of Prophecies!!! ) If it's released in a mag, we don't get it for a month and then it's been removed half the time.

Please, please aNet, please tell me we in the downunder aren't going miss out again.
I can understand you concern about that. Hopefully the bonus pane will be obtainable with a special quest during the Anniversary.

Lasai

Lasai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2009

R/

Im laughing my head off.. people complaining about 10 bucks for an optional perma storage upgrade to an account.

Ten bucks won't buy a month of WOW, Vanguard, EQ/EQ2, SWG, AoC and so on.

Or you could be playing Smedley's new model of RMT for SOE that makes some of the best items ingame only available by purchasing packs of virtual cards for an entirely separate game.

Seriously, ANet is the least corporate greed driven company I've played.

Appreciate it. It is rather unique in todays MMO market.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Thanks for the free stuff.
The purchasable additions do not interest me.



Edit:
Sweet baby Jesus!
A WHOLE freaking week(ish) of AFKing the rings!??!
*drools*

Snoflake_Necro

Snoflake_Necro

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2007

The land of Oz

Pirates Merchants and Scoundrels [PMS]

N/Rt

Very true Apollo Smile. That would be an awesome solution.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasai View Post
Im laughing my head off.. people complaining about 10 bucks for an optional perma storage upgrade to an account.
It's more that the $10 is just going into character slots or new accounts instead. Yeah having it as a pane would be more convenient, but not THAT convenient. It would be nice if you could efficiently buy storage when that's all you want, as opposed to paying the same as someone wanting playable chars/accounts that just end up as mules.

TideSwayer

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

I guess I was under the impression that our storage was going to be significantly increased as part of the 'free' April Update content. Giving us 1 equipment pack per character (realistically, the max size equipment pack cannot be that large) and one extra Xunlai Storage tab, that is apparently not the case. I won't be overpaying for extra Xunlai tabs. The hell with $40 for 4 tabs. I just spent $30 on 4 tabs, 8 mules, a materials tab, and XTH monthly points on an extra GW Trilogy account about two months ago. I'll hold out for another similar deal, most likely.


The rest of what's been noted sounds pretty interesting. Hopefully these Zaishen bounties actually require more skill to accomplish than simple, basic requests to do the same thing over and over. (ie. Don't ask me to just go and do Sanctum Cay again. Ask me to do Sanctum Cay with added mission modifiers, such as Healing Prayers skills disabled and our party getting hit for 3x the elemental damage. Stuff like that.)

Empress Amarox

Empress Amarox

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2008

Above you.

Mo/W

Quote:
Each pane is $9.99 USD from the in-game store or the NCsoft Store. You can buy up to four of them for a single account.

If you're looking for yet another possibility, you may purchase the new Pet Unlock Pack for $9.99 USD from the in-game store or the NCsoft Store, which will unlock all the common pets in the Menagerie.
I see why they worked so hard... They need more monies.

Seriously though, the storage tabs are way overpriced. The storage tabs damn well better be more than 20 slots to be worth $10 (although it looks like they are only 20 slots from the picture.

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As for the other stuff, fairly content about that. Kinda leery about this though:

Quote:
Free Storage Pane Giveaway

Lastly, to celebrate our anniversary, we have a limited-time offer where you can get a FREE pane of Xunlai Storage. Our upcoming promotion will be the ONLY way to get this special pane; it is extra, which means you can't buy it later. Keep an eye on the website and we'll explain how you can get this bonus storage.
Makes me wonder what exactly we have to do that it isn't just going to be given to us without us having to jump through hoops.. and it makes me wonder if all of us can get one.

What fightens me, is I think it will be "buy x ammount of our stuff in the online store between a & b and get a FREE pane in XS" and that's just poo.

Quote:
There are a few ways you can start your own collection in the Menagerie. Bring any pet with you or your Heroes to the Tamer in the Menagerie Grounds. The Tamer will check your pet's evolution and unlock that tier and any lower tiers. Adding charmed pets to the Menagerie is absolutely free. You can also use Balthazar Faction or pay with Zaishen Coins and gold to have the Zaishen Order unlock and train evolutions of pets for you.
I kinda like that... Hoping it's account based, but at least this way we can get all pets through play instead of having to pay $10 for it.

Quote:
Many are familiar with the Zaishen Challenge in the Battle Isles, and soon the Zaishen will extend their Challenge in the form of new quests.
..not sure what to think about that just yet.

Rak Orgon of Beowulf

Rak Orgon of Beowulf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

just chillin

Omg Gwen Is Legal [EotN]

GG anet.
no sarcasm.
i love the quest idea and storage for all my junk.

btw people. armor and weapons are what clogs up inventories and storage, and the extra tabs wont be as necessary when we have these features. idk what you guys are hording(barring armor/weapons) that you need 8 tabs for. What? do you keep every collectible drop you get or something? Imo THAT is why they are for fee based system. If they take away the bulk(armor/weapons) for free, the extra storage is for superfluous needs.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by TideSwayer View Post
The rest of what's been noted sounds pretty interesting. Hopefully these Zaishen bounties actually require more skill to accomplish than simple, basic requests to do the same thing over and over. (ie. Don't ask me to just go and do Sanctum Cay again. Ask me to do Sanctum Cay with added mission modifiers, such as Healing Prayers skills disabled and our party getting hit for 3x the elemental damage. Stuff like that.)
Yeah, that got me puzzled for a bit too. We already had two added incentives to go through all missions one more time (HM and addition of Story Books). So a simple 'go play Sanctum Cay again for 5 Zaishen Coins' won't be very interesting for me.

blackknight1337

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Mo/

Hmm....buy a $10 pane for storage. Ok.

Buy gw accounts when prices are good ($5 campaigns on black friday anyone?) Benefit with about 10x the space.

On top of that, you get free monies every month with a new acc.

Falling Petal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2009

"Mission quests send you to replay storyline missions from each campaign." - This would be cool if it gives experienced players an incentive to go and redo missions, because new players sometimes find it hard to find a group to do a mission. For sure lots of people re-doing these missions won't care for PUG'ing with people playing through the game but some will. More people re-playing existing PvE content is a good thing for the health of the game.

Ratson Itamar

Ratson Itamar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

"Flame Shield On!"

Quote:
The rest of what's been noted sounds pretty interesting. Hopefully these Zaishen bounties actually require more skill to accomplish than simple, basic requests to do the same thing over and over. (ie. Don't ask me to just go and do Sanctum Cay again. Ask me to do Sanctum Cay with added mission modifiers, such as Healing Prayers skills disabled and our party getting hit for 3x the elemental damage. Stuff like that.)
I don't think that the new zaishen quests will be like that, it's noted that you can play solo, with one friend or an entire group. If assuming that by "solo" they meant you with H/H then the quests can't be that hard. In the 'worst' case scenario they actually mean by yourself, alone, with no heroes or henchies, in that case the quests are just quick and enjoyable fun for all (including newbies).

Rak Orgon of Beowulf

Rak Orgon of Beowulf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

just chillin

Omg Gwen Is Legal [EotN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna View Post
So a simple 'go play Sanctum Cay again for 5 Zaishen Coins' won't be very interesting for me.
Oh but that depends on what zaishen coins give as a reward....if they say (in your example) 15 Zaishen coins for a Zkey...then would you go do sanctum cay again for 5 coins?

@others
i hope this update kills the Zkey market, so you people with 20 accounts are left with a bunch of worthless junk. heh heh

Snoflake_Necro

Snoflake_Necro

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2007

The land of Oz

Pirates Merchants and Scoundrels [PMS]

N/Rt

Well, as the GW model is not pay-per-month (like others that shall remain nameless) I guess they have to make their money somewhere. Micro transactions are it unfortunately. I personally won't be paying more than $10 bucks for extra storage - don't forget that we here in Oz can only pay in british pounds and *that* exchange rate sucks. I'd rather have the option to pay in USD even though that rate sucks too.

Mind you, I'm still sore about the GotY edition with the "free" igneous summoning stone. I own the GotY edition, I've bought motza stuff thru the in-game store, how DARE you try to charge me an extra $5 bucks because i apparently don't qualify for it! Grrr...

/end rant

Anyway, what's been officially released looks nifty. Looking forward to the Zaishen repeatables. Not being a PvP'er (never got the hang of it), I will be giving this a red hot go. I am also happy that my Jingle Bear will have some friends in the menagerie seeing as I can't add him to the HoM. I'm wondering what they aren't telling us about. What else is out there waiting for us?

Regina Buenaobra

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

We're doing an in-game chat right now in Great Temple of Balthazar International 1 if you'd like to join us. =)

Vulkanyaz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

It isn't what I expected, but I'm pleased nonetheless. Can't wait

HoM updates will probably come with the build I guess? Or maybe the May skill updates..

If they give us a free, no-catch xunlai slot I'll be happy, otherwise getting people to pay for them at all, I think I could go without

Crunk N Monkey

Crunk N Monkey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Bellevue Nebraska

The Mystic Tokers

R/D

well seeing that we are getting another equipment pack for weapons and armor for our characters, i would imagine its 20 slots like the backpack in the game. As for the Zunlai Chest tabs being made purchasable and at $10 a pop, it does kinda suck, but we cant complain too much cuz, like i said we are getting another backpack, and they DID mention that there will be a limited offer for a free tab for the Zunlai Chest during the 4th anniversary celebrations. So if im reading it right we can have up to 9 tabs for account based storage which means 180 total spots open for storage. Thats plenty of room for $40.

As for the "Zoo" i think this might tie in with our rumored HoM update that we have been hearing about as well. It has been noted that only one pet can be displayed in the HoM monument, this might allow us to display more than one, say Black Moa, White Moa, Rainbow Phoenix, Tiger, and Iguana all at the same time. Be kinda neat.

So lets just sit back and enjoy the Easter festivities that are going on right now, and look forward to cupcakes and the crowding of dist 1-3 of Kamadan as people sell their 4 year minipets to the rest of us

caballo_oscuro

caballo_oscuro

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

Aura

Quote:
Originally Posted by snaek View Post
^speaking of hom... no details? or no update?
Yeah, where's our HoM update? It's been promised for ages! And there's plenty of info stating it's supposed to happen this month:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Upcom...s_and_features

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

lol pay for more storage? Screw that.

Really.

Who would do that?

Mister_Smiley

Mister_Smiley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

It looks really good.


But i don't think Anet has put out all there cards on what coming in April, because all good company's hide stuff. I bet there is something extra special we don't know about.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna View Post
Yeah, that got me puzzled for a bit too. We already had two added incentives to go through all missions one more time (HM and addition of Story Books). So a simple 'go play Sanctum Cay again for 5 Zaishen Coins' won't be very interesting for me.
Yes, this is my concern. The Zaishen thing sounds like the usual: good idea, but it's all about the rewards not working out. I don't want to farm PVE for ZKeys. If I wanted ZKeys I'd do like the rest and always play ZH. I would think they'd notice this ahead of time that the Zkey thing is oversaturated and we need a whole new line of rewards/weapons/armors/gimmicks to keep people playing, but my concern is they haven't noticed at all and won't maximize the potential of this thing.

turbo234

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

WI

Mo/

This sounds even bigger than expected.

immortius

immortius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Black Cats

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra View Post
We're doing an in-game chat right now in Great Temple of Balthazar International 1 if you'd like to join us. =)
The equipment packs apparently range in size between 5 and 20 slots.

The Menagerie is basically a pet unlock station that will allow you to re-charm pets you've previously unlocked with it (and also lets PvP characters charm those pets you've unlocked). You don't lose your pet when you unlock it. There are different tiers that can be unlocked for each pet:

Tier 1: Level 1 - 11
Tier 2: Level 12 - 14 (unevolved or Elder)
Tier 3: Level 12 - 14 (Aggressive or Playful)
Tier 4: Level 15 - 19 (unevolved or Elder)
Tier 5: Level 15 - 19 (evolved)
Tier 6: Level 20 (Elder)
Tier 7: Level 20 (Dire or Hearty)

The rewards for Zaishen quests include Zaishen coins, XP, Gold, Faction or Titlepoints. All have Zaishen coins, the other rewards vary. The titlepoints relate to the mission involved. For instance, a Norn mission quest will give Norn title points.

ZCoins can be used to:
- Unlock pet tiers in the Menagerie
- Buy various things from collectors (vague)
- You can purchase ZKeys, for instance.

They are not tradable outside of your account.

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

I don't know what you people are complaining about. For me, having an extra storage space for armor on my main gives me a "free new tab" in storage. Having an extra storage space on my Monk gives him a clean inventory and holding space for all his armor, making him entirely more efficient. Well over half of my characters have additional armors and/or weapon sets that are taking up major space in inventory. If we get a 10 slot bag, ANet has given me a free $50 worth of their new storage tabs for doing nothing. On top of it, I imagine the promotional offer will be quite simple, bringing the free value up to $60.

So what they're offering you, by their price guide, is (if you have 10 characters):

-$60 in free extra storage
-An entirely new area with a functionality that's been desired since release
-Refreshing old content to make some areas worth doing again
-A week-long celebration with the boardwalk everyone's always drooling over
-An account wide Hall of Monuments upgrade (maybe)

What they're asking for in return:

-$10 for an additional 20 storage slots, up to $40 total
-Possibly money for a BMP style mini-expansion that gives new content in some form and rewards you with a $10 benefit.

...seems pretty fair to me. I work for a living and go to school full time and the prices aren't unnecessarily gouged or high.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Very exciting ANet, looking forward to the update. Not too hip on the price tag on the storage tabs, 5 dollars seems a bit more reasonable.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

People would actually pay for more storage?

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

The more I think about it the more out of this world I see the price per xunlai tab. Absuridiculous. 4 tabs = full price of a full campagin, just compare, wtf. I'm not even getting into uber discount full campagins we can find in some stores, but just compare to a simple character slot - 1 full character is a huge lot more data to be stored than just 20 items and it costs the same.

This is a clear example of what I call The Curse of Microtransations: the smaller the thing you get, the more you have to overpay for it.

Hope GW2 is as far from this model as possible, with only BIG content packages (expansions) sold and maybe minor extra optional services like character name change.

Robbeh The Mad

Robbeh The Mad

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2009

AFK somewhere in Kryta

Raven Alliance

W/

Hellz 2 da YES

I like it, i like it a lot. I like the pet thing they have going. I hope this means I can find a place to house my 20th lvl white tiger Battle Cat and not lose him so I can go get me a black wolf. I always wondered why they didnt have some type of kennel or peting zoo for your animals and why you have to give them up to get a new one. I always figured they would, in time put something in the HoM or the GH to fix this but this is good enough. I hope it's like I'm figuring.

As far as paying for more storage, I'm a little iffy on the paying part but yep I'm going to do it just as soon as they say we can. It might put a cramp on the kids that play and don't really have a source of income besides mum and dad but lucky I'm not one of them and I can afford to spend 20 bucks to make my game more enjoyable.

Thank you A-net