Boycott the Storage Update!

/not signed X10 purely base on the fact that a company has to make money to stay in business. Would you like to do a bunch of work and give your employer the Option to pay you for it. No you would want to get payed for no doubt. So quit with the QQ about something not being free.

Why does it matter if you have to pay? Its storage, its not needed to play the game i dont even have enough items to even come close to filling up the storage as of now. The only stirage update i want is adding a new chest to pre(you wont be able to take stuff from post but you can put your pre stuff in it.)

/not signed

Be glad you'll have the possibility to purchase extra storage slots if the need should arise.

It's not a must-have, it's something extra.
Besides, this update will give you some free expansion aswell, so what are you complaining about?

I find it rather funny that someone asks for "no whining" in a thread specifically made to whine about something.

We already have that in the form of character slots, which provide more storage for the same price.

You pay for the convenience, see my previous post.

/notsigned.

This isn't a P2P game, micro transactions like this and for game upgrades are a small fee that helps Anet keep the servers afloat and they honestly have every right to charge for extra storage space, just like you should expect it. You should try looking at it from the other side, you can't have everything for free. What could be worked out is the price tag, not the fact of charging money for it. 10$/€ is useless when you can buy a copy of GW with loads of extra storage space.

Yeah i just read what linsey said posted buy fril, and i gotta admit, its not that much of a convenience. Takes about an extra minute? W00t.

If it were something along the lines of $5 id consider it. But as it stands, 20 slots, for $9.99 isnt worth it. I'd rather continue to use my second account, as im doing now.

This:

And This:

With 8.99€ you can get another character slot. That is:
* 45 item slots, 37 weapon slots, 37 offhand slots, 37 insignia slots and 37 rune slots, thanks to heroes.
But is VERY annoying to switch items between characters.

With 8.99€ you can get a Xunlai Tab, which has less slots:
* Just plain 20 slots (unless they change tab size, we don't know about that yet).
But it's much more useful, since you don't have to switch back and forward, neither have to programs running at the same time.

So, it is your choice. Each one has advantages and disvantages.
I would prefer if tab size were increased to 30 or 40 slots, though. But if not, I'll get tabs if I need them anyways, as long as they don't cost more than those 8.99€.

I've refrained from commenting so far on the whole Extra Storage debate but I'm now going to because, quite frankly, this thread just about sums up the QQing going on atm.

Ok, when we all bought the game(s), we all knew it was Free-To-Play. Quite different from most of the main stream MMOs, it was a nice change that a company was willing to release a game with a license structure like this. They could have so easily charged monthly but didn't.

And what we have been given over the 4 years of Guild Wars is, in all fairness, a staggeringly good valued product. Most of this content FREE too. Yes ok, Factions, Nightfall and GW:EN weren't, as well as the poorly released Bonus Missions Pack but overall, most was not requiring us to delve further into our pockets. We also have the monthly and quarterly updates which again are free. How many other online games do this? Very very few.

A lot of people will be (and are based upon the crying going on currently) still under the impression that, because they bought a game that requires no monthly fee, anything given to us extra content wise should be given (i.e. free) and not paid for. Well, I'm sorry but how many companies would do this in real life? Spend months of valued employee time and effort for nothing? As well as costing in new hardware (hard drives maybe cheap as chips nowadays on a $ per GB ratio but it STILL cost to the company). Most will think "oh it's just throwing in some more disks!!". Well it isn't. Adding disks into (or completely rebuilding) an array, dependant on how they approach this, takes time and resource. Not to mention doing exactly the same to their backup servers (most won't realise this).

I will say, ArenaNet may have done themselves a bad thing by pricing the tabs at $9.99 each. I agree this maybe a touch overpriced. But still, they can charge whatever they wish to. After all, they have done the work.

But we ARE getting free content - one extra tab plus the containers for weapons and armour. What more do you want?? Admittedly, ANet were never going to please everyone. But I think they have seriously made a good effort with this. And we still don't know that this is everything we are going to get.

Ask yourselves this - lets say you did work for 4 months or so. In your spare time too. Would you do all of this for free, even if you loved the job you were in? Of course not. Just because this is a FTP game, doesn't mean that everything should be handed to us for nothing. ArenaNet is a company. They exist for two reasons - to provide a service and to make money to continue to provide this service. Part of this going to, I would assume, Guild Wars 2 development.

Each player is entitled to do whatever they wish to do. Just because you don't agree with the pricing structure and how they are implementing this doesn't mean the next person will share your viewpoint.

I for one won't be buying extra storage, since I don't need it. If I did however, I would buy it as it would be a mini thanks to ANet for giving me continued enjoyment of a game I have, in all reality, had to spend very little money on.

Therefore...

/UNSIGNED

PS: Moderators, please close this pointless rant thread asap

/unsigned

Although the idea of having to pay for something which we were initially led to believe is free, I can see where Anet is coming from. Besides, not like you HAVE TO PAY NAO OR ELSE WE WILL DELETE UR CHARZ...feel free to continue to manage as you have so far.

Furthermore, having done the math, its actually a lot more economical to just buy an extra char slot...you get like 2 and a half panes worth of storage I think...

Alot of angry posts being said about this update. Well, here's my take on the situation. I was expecting more storage for my characters and I got it, but you have to pay greenbacks for the other slots. To be honest, I only expected for them to give us one extra storage space but they gave the option of adding more slots to your character so...not really any complaints here seeing as I will be getting a free one. As for having to pay for the other spaces -shrugs- Either you pay for it, or you don't. No use complaining about it. At least they gave you a free space instead of saying "Haha, we tricks'd joo! Pay for storage or suffer!" Sure, it WOULD have been nice to get more than one space, but hey, let's be realistic. A game that has NO monthly charge has to make money somehow. If A-net see's that not many people are buying the spaces, like other people said, they'll possibly lower the price to appease the masses. Just be glad they gave you more space.

Yet another qq thread.
/lock
DO IT NOW!

/signed, I agree with the priceing to br overpriced.

/unsigned

It's all optional, so I have no problem with it at all.

/not signed.

if u don't want to buy panels just don't.
cry more

My take on the addition: Good. Great.

Optional stuff is always good.
Those who want it will pay for it.

It is not that I'm joining any boycott thing, but I am NOT going to buy any tab.
If they were 5$ each, I would buy 4 of them... but 4 for 40$ is more than I paid for a full campaign.

Simply I don't think that a tab is worth 10$.

I think that the marketing decision is to find some more money since it has been a long time without a new campaign/expansion release, but in my opinion the price is too high.

I'd rather buy some more character slots.

ALSO: I have the feeling this "UNIQUE OFFER" to get a free tab will end up like the BMP.

/notsigned

It is optional. People have been asking for more storage and that they would pay for it.

Is it overpriced? Yes.

Would I have bought a bunch for my various accounts at $5? Yes.

Will I buy any at $10? Not a chance.

ANet's marketing seems to think they can get $10 for them, so I guess they know something we don't. Funny thing is just the other day one of the City of Heroes people (another NCSoft game) mentioned how cheap server storage space is and how it isn't even a factor in stuff they do. Granted, that is a subscription game, to be fair, but still. Even figuring all the active servers and backup servers that would need to possibly have extra hard drive space (and that they likely use more expensive server rated drives), storage space is incredibly cheap. Not to mention the 200,000 units of GW they still sell each quarter, which should actually cover such costs and dev work on GW2. But whatever.

Also, the "FREE" tab is some type of promotion. That may involve buying something, we don't really know. Or worse, if they make it so new accounts aren't able to get it, by having to do something in-game that newer players can't even get to. That would truly suck (as it is for a limited time) and pretty much be the one thing that would make me so mad I'd never buy anything from NCSoft again, including GW2. I hope that is not the case.

Otherwise, I'm very pleased with the new free stuff they will add this month!

/not signed

But I won't be spending money on extra storage.

VERY glad for the free extra equipment slot though, it means I can switch the 15 weapons i carry with me to somewhere else.

where exactly in the announcement says the equipment packs are free? read it again, you get a fifth slot to hold the equipment pack, free slot not free equipment packs. so no one gets free storage lol lolololololololol. nice Arena Net very nice.

finally, Arena Net has become a micro-transaction game not free to play anymore. Well it wasn't free to play to begin with, but, you know what, Arena Net, you could have made this an expansion pack and no one would make a noise, at least not me. because you are after all an expansion pack business model, not micro transaction. now you become like every other MMORPG out there. tsk tsk tsk.

the game i currently play gives 5x25slots bags :P and a 25 slots bank free just need to download. and i could make as many account as i wish, and send the rest of the stuff to this other account to keep. free too.


Minako, i think the free tab will come with the purchase of the equipment pack, the most expansive one i would suspect.

Please show me anything that would lead you to this conclusion, I am pretty sure the only thing that they said was that there would be a storage expanding update, nothing about it all being free. Sides you are getting 1 (maybe 2) panes free and the bags. And no duh they need to make money, there is no monthly free and you people don't seem to get it that servers and the deelopment of a new game cost MONEY. And the fact that the campaigns are down around 10$ each means that not that much is coming in. I have said it before, ANet does not owe you anything.

/Unsigned. I feel let down that players are whining because of an optional storage update. Therefore I am not boycotting the buying of the extra storage.
-IGN: On the left.

Optional guys, optional!

I'd pay $5, not $10. But, that's economics. I bought 6 full accounts of GW for $5 on Black Friday, like I'm going to pay double that just to get 20 storage slots? Not only is it half the cost, but I get 100k+ in in-game gold from those accounts every month, which if that's converted to old time money->gold schemes, that's what? $5 a month? So yeah, it would be stupid to buy extra storage panes for $10. $5 I'd do, not 10.

But, trying to boycott something when maybe 1% of the GW population that would potentially purchase these extra storage panes visits these forums? That's just naive.

I'll /sign on the price being stupid, and /notsign on a "boycott" because it's just not going to happen.

/not signed

While yes it is overpriced, people will pay the same price for an extra character slot to have more storage. The same people may even pay for extra storage tabs. If ANet wants to charge for it, let them. It is there game they are just kind enough to share it with us and let us play it online for FREE. They do need other sources of income to keep the servers up and to pay those who help keep the game updated/work on GW2.

/Signed. I feel like this is an update to gain money rather than an update to help the players. I am boycotting the buying of the extra storage.
-IGN: Ez Now

Congratulations on your great success with this boycott!

If you search this and many other GW forums and fansites, you'll find that a lot of people stated their will to pay for more storage.
They price may be a bit way off, secially under this crisis we are, but any sensible person would agree that paying for more storage is acceptable.

GWO is NOT a "FreeToPlay" game, it is a "PAY ONCE" game.
You pay once for each key, and you get the content and features the key unlocks FOREVER (as long as you follow the rules and people play the game and aliens don't decide to invade us and end the world and things like those and yaddayaddayadda).

There are some special bonus items that are created only once, but you don't pay or those. So they aren't even an exception to the rule.

@pumpkin: whoops.

But - well, I still don't see the issue at hand. They are giving us free stuff - the fifth slot is still free, is it not? They're charging for stuff that you might want to get, things that are optional. I don't see why there should be a boycott of something that is optional in the first darn place.

/Not signed.
Anet needs to make money one way or an other.
The price for the extra pane is more then cheap is a dam gift from anet only $10. And come on you are going top get a free upgrade plus the extra one that you can get if you keep a close eye on the GW site.

Plus if enough people buy the extra panes, anet may be able to fix some the nasty graphical bugs they are to lazy to fix.

On a more positive note: if this thread was about a petition for the storage tabs at $5, I think it'd have great success!

From Linsey's words, I get the feeling the equipment pack is free (maybe through some kind of quest? zcoins?), but it's not sure.

/notsigned

What in the hell are you trying to accomplish? Oh yes, I can totally see Lindsey coming here "hmmm...there are a few retards who think they can tell us our prices.."\

I balked at buying my first copy of prophecies because it was $50. I didn't post on every forum suggesting a boycott of Anet because I felt they were charging too much for the game.

I posted my little spiel on a couple threads on how it was more cost effective to go buy another account. To those saying they would buy if it was $5, guess what, buying another account is still more space for your money. I said my reasons, and I moved on.

You are protesting the price of an item which you DO NOT NEED, NOR ARE YOU REQUIRED TO BUY. I would love for you to go boycott a car dealership because you think their prices for a bodykit for your car is too high.

Pathetic thread, pathetic idea.

Quoted because this is basically how I feel.

Don't flame up the thread mate. Lets try to keep it open to see what the results will be!

So what does that make WoW? A pay with your soul game? You have to pay to buy the game then pay to play the damn thing. So as far as I am concerned GW is indeed a free online game because you don't have to pay a cent after buying it if you don't want too.

/notsigned

Don't wanna buy more storage? Don't. A-Net isn't forcing you to buy more storage. Sure $10 is a little overpriced & $5 would be better, but A-Net probably needs the money. Imo, if you're in a uproar over paying just $10 for storage, then *maybe* you should get your priorities straight :I.

i suspect no one gets one single slot of storage for free glacialphoenix, you know how when you only have one backpack and the rest of the slots is empty until you buy a bag to put in the slots, the free slots is that slots, to hold the equipment packs (i think thats what it is) so there's no free storage what so ever this update.

proof me wrong Arena Net.

I wanna know where everyone is reading that we are all getting 1 free Xunlai tab, because I'm not seeing it. All I am seeing is one extra slot for an equipment pack. I don't see 1 free tab, then $10 apiece thereafter.

/notsigned for boycott

/signed for it being overpriced

Let those who want to overpay for it overpay for it, as they clearly have the dough to spend. When/if the price becomes more reasonable, then I'll re-examine buying it.

/notsigned

I won't be buying because I don't want to link my game account to PlayNC but I have no objection to them selling extra storage or to the price.

Frankly I think the price is fair and I have no problem with the idea that if you are going to insist on storing more on their servers you can pay a one-time fee to do so.

If they ever offer this as a code for purchase that does not require linking to PlayNC, I will probably buy immediately.

Charging for extra storage tabs in your Xunlai Chest is not a game decision, it's a BUSINESS decision. A-net is a Business, and in order for that business to survive, it has to have a thing called "revenue." Without "revenue" they can not pay the bills. If they can't pay the bills, they wind up shutting down. If they shut down, they won't be providing their product (Guild Wars) to their customers and they won't be working on GW2, either. If that were to happen, ALL OF YOUR IN-GAME STORAGE ISSUES WILL BE SOLVED!

As for the price, if people don't spend the $10 for the tabs, then the marketing guys will figure it out pretty quickly that the price needs to come down.

/notsigned

Free extra storage is an extra bag per character. You don't have to buy the extra storage tabs if you don't want them, and not everyone has the option of being able to transfer stuff from one account to another (e.g. not having two computers available or not having a computer powerful enough to run GWx2). If the storage tabs don't meet your needs, then buy another account or a character slot.