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They can remove the option all together which will give you something real to QQ about.
Boycott the Storage Update!
byteme!
Free Runner
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Fril Estelin
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The only advantage to the Xunlai chest being bigger is not having to swap characters or fire up mules as often.
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As I was trying to show in my previous post, it's the first time in a little while that Anet created a "product", with a price tag on it. Otherwise, we've been enjoying free little things (MOX, fire imp, etc.) for a while, and now there's going to be at least 3 things. All of that without paying a monthly fee.
Shakkara
For $10 I can get a full account so it's too much for just 20 extra storage slots.
Crimso
We probably won't even need the extra storage anyway, if the equipment packs aren't too difficult to get most of your storage space will be cleared by using them. If you still need more storage after every piece of equipment you have has been stored you must have a lot of items you don't need (e.g. collectibles).
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by king swift
charge a ridiculous amount ($10) for it hoping to rip everybody off because they know everybody wants it so desperately.
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Nighthawk2dr
/Not Signed.
It's hard (As well as pointless) to try and boycott something that is optional. I'm not buying purely because I have no money to spend at the moment. Sure 10 bucks is probably a little steep for a storage tab, but I've been getting along just fine for three years now with the amount of storage I have right now. I'm happy that they are giving us the Equipment pack as well as the free storage tab, even if that does involve jumping through fun Guild Wars hoops. And besides, it's not like these storage tabs are "exclusive content" that will make anyone better than anyone else, so you don't need it to survive. Stop complaining and be thankful that you don't have to pay to keep playing the game.
Happy Easter BTW.
It's hard (As well as pointless) to try and boycott something that is optional. I'm not buying purely because I have no money to spend at the moment. Sure 10 bucks is probably a little steep for a storage tab, but I've been getting along just fine for three years now with the amount of storage I have right now. I'm happy that they are giving us the Equipment pack as well as the free storage tab, even if that does involve jumping through fun Guild Wars hoops. And besides, it's not like these storage tabs are "exclusive content" that will make anyone better than anyone else, so you don't need it to survive. Stop complaining and be thankful that you don't have to pay to keep playing the game.
Happy Easter BTW.
Trader of Secrets
rather use that money and buy another account for storage and tournament pts
glacialphoenix
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But, I'm curious about the accounts. For a lot of you, it may be more worthwhile to get an entirely new account, especially if you have access to stores that sell them at a discounted rate. A lot of the account arguments I've seen compare the price of the Xunlai to the price of a discounted account.
But what about people who can't find stores that sell copies at a discounted price? I'm not so sure that argument is valid anymore.
cosmic massacre
won't be buying,although i'm not against it.
all roads lead to rome,i just hope this one isnt heading down the monthly fee(or similar) route...eventually.
all roads lead to rome,i just hope this one isnt heading down the monthly fee(or similar) route...eventually.
Apollo Smile
Haha, no. I'm not going to boycott an optional service.
zwei2stein
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Do us all a favour, and keep PvE/PvP out of this thread.
But, I'm curious about the accounts. For a lot of you, it may be more worthwhile to get an entirely new account, especially if you have access to stores that sell them at a discounted rate. A lot of the account arguments I've seen compare the price of the Xunlai to the price of a discounted account. But what about people who can't find stores that sell copies at a discounted price? I'm not so sure that argument is valid anymore. |
One character slot still offers twice as much storage, costs half and is avaiable at online store.
Why people whine about overpricing of one tab when they can get storagle cheaply elsewhere and when they are getting more bag storage for free is beyond me.
You can get it cheaper elsewhere. Now stop whining.
You are getting at least half a tab worth of free storage per character. Now stop whining.
glacialphoenix
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Hmm, OK. Was just wondering. I'm not arguing with the character slot thing, just noted that a lot of people talked about how it was the same price as a new account, which is not necessarily the case everywhere.
And no, I don't think I'm whining.
Hmm, OK. Was just wondering. I'm not arguing with the character slot thing, just noted that a lot of people talked about how it was the same price as a new account, which is not necessarily the case everywhere.
And no, I don't think I'm whining.
Lourens
$10 is a fair price as it is an addition to your current account , sure you can buy 10 accounts but will it make you any happier?
O'rly? , I think you don't understand free stuff isn't always good. why do you think this game got swarms of morons? because its made cheap $40>$10 sure lots can afford 10 bucks.
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****Whining, Flaming, Personal Attacks and Harassment will NOT be tolerated****
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Burst Cancel
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They are different as far as convenience and other nonstorage benefits are concerned, but simplest math is simple: According to current pricing, storage tab is worth around 1.50$. If you would pay more, you are better off with slots or accounts.
Consider that people still want more storage with theese two options. Somethings tells me that "demand" does not think that 1.5$ storage tab is good deal, because otherwise it would be satisfied by buying accounts (which have also other significant benefits). |
The fact remains that new accounts or character slots are not identical products; you cannot assume away the differences, handwaving notwithstanding. The pricing of a "storage slot" based on accounts or characters slots is not applicable to storage panes unless you can price the differences as well.
And if your pricing is right, nobody will buy any storage panes and prices should fall accordingly; it's really quite simple. Frankly, none of this is worth serious discussion - especially on a fanboard where the majority of posters are not only demonstrably lacking in the knowledge required to discuss the subject intelligently, but also lacking in awareness of what the relevant inquiries even are in the first place.
Jecht Scye
/notsigned
This is optional content. If you don't want to pay $10.00, then don't. It's your choice.
This is optional content. If you don't want to pay $10.00, then don't. It's your choice.
RupDur78
because all it is doing is adding 20space panes to the storage that you can only buy 4 of i think the price should be $6.99 or 5.99 instead because for the same price you can get a toon slot and way more storage that isnt account based.
Lourens
You must see the extra slots as something fancy I'm certain Anet won't lower prices and that lots of people will buy it anyway.
Because it is leet
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Excuse me? (For some reason I can not pm you)
Because it is leet
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the majority of posters are not only demonstrably lacking in the knowledge required to discuss the subject intelligently, but also lacking in awareness of what the relevant inquiries even are in the first place.
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Ghost Dog
I am one of the most vocal people against F2P companies luring people in just to charge for everything later, but I know ANET doesn't have the server room for this extra storage and I think if they, did these extra panes would be free.
So /notsigned from me because i know they HAVE to do it, but I don't want anet to start a trend with this as so many companies I've seen before have.
I also think some people here have a very good point about choosing between $10 storage or going and buying a $10 account and having much more extra storage, we all know what's going to happen there but I doubt anet is worried about selling more copies either way.
So /notsigned from me because i know they HAVE to do it, but I don't want anet to start a trend with this as so many companies I've seen before have.
I also think some people here have a very good point about choosing between $10 storage or going and buying a $10 account and having much more extra storage, we all know what's going to happen there but I doubt anet is worried about selling more copies either way.
RupDur78
another thought i have had is i spent about $250 on guild wars as a hole a few extra toon slots and a collectors ed. and have now played for about 2-3 years, so if i would have gotten wow i would have spent about $540 for just the monthly fee($15), and i think if i had gotten wow right when it came out it would for both of the expansions it would have been $150? (i dont remember nor do i have it so if there is only 2 then reduce that amount by $50.) so in all i would have spent $690 for playing wow for the same amount of time. so and i would rather pay around $300 for a game i have played for so long.
Noel Hope
/notsigned
We don't pay monthly fees to play GW.
Extra storage is an optional purchase.
$10.00 isn't that much.
We don't pay monthly fees to play GW.
Extra storage is an optional purchase.
$10.00 isn't that much.
Enchanted Warrior
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Do you think that ArenaNet is just using this storage update as a source of income and its sole purpose is not to benefit the GW Community?
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Gregslot
10$ is not much, and people ARE going to buy it.
And why god, oh why do you need that many storage tabs!?!?
If you want to save space SELL stuff!
No need to keep on holding into stuff you wont use.
Even if your heroes had inventory you would complain that you needed more space to keep your crap!
Quit beeing a spoiled girl and start THINKING what you need and what you dont need.
Some people....
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hahahahahaha
only 20% agree with you!
you and your thread failed!
And why god, oh why do you need that many storage tabs!?!?
If you want to save space SELL stuff!
No need to keep on holding into stuff you wont use.
Even if your heroes had inventory you would complain that you needed more space to keep your crap!
Quit beeing a spoiled girl and start THINKING what you need and what you dont need.
Some people....
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hahahahahaha
only 20% agree with you!
you and your thread failed!
Zodiac Meteor
ROFLMAO! Even the poll favors no a little. There is no, Yes, I'll buy it.
Xanthe Dashka
I couldn't care less. Never needed extra storage before, never will need it in future.
Too much QQ about storage.
Too much QQ about storage.
Kook~NBK~
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A new equipment bag for each character will supply most players with sufficient extra storage and cost only in-game gold.
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1. Be prepared to pay for the actual bag using in-game gold, just like getting bags from the merchant now. I suspect that they may be added to the quartermasters et.al. who trade things for Monestary Credits and stuff like that.
2. Be prepared for having the cost for a 20 slot bag to command a pretty penny.
3. Be prepared for the QQ thread that gets started here and on other fan sites about that!
THANK YOU WHOEVER ADDEd THE POLL!!!
king swift
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ROFLMAO! Even the poll favors no a little. There is no, Yes, I'll buy it.
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The polls aren't over yet
king swift
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That's an important point that needs to be emphasized here. Don't expect them to just GIVE people the equipment bag.
1. Be prepared to pay for the actual bag using in-game gold, just like getting bags from the merchant now. I suspect that they may be added to the quartermasters et.al. who trade things for Monestary Credits and stuff like that. 2. Be prepared for having the cost for a 20 slot bag to command a pretty penny. 3. Be prepared for the QQ thread that gets started here and on other fan sites about that! THANK YOU WHOEVER ADDEd THE POLL!!! |
Good points.
Savio was nice enough to add the polls for me.
neighto
I've gone 4 years without them.. so no they wont be getting my money.. $10 is a bit much imo.. If they would have released this 2 years ago.. I prolly would have bought a couple. But as it stands now.. I rarely play anymore, so dont need the space to hold junk.
Markaedw
/signed for lower price.
$10 per tab is just way too much, maybe for the whole thing. I have 2 computers and running GW on both is easy, I have a 2nd mule account so trading is simple, and a character runs 45 spots, just the math precludes $10 for a tab.
What I wanted was a mat like storage for dye and stackable runes, that would have help more that gouging tabs.
$10 per tab is just way too much, maybe for the whole thing. I have 2 computers and running GW on both is easy, I have a 2nd mule account so trading is simple, and a character runs 45 spots, just the math precludes $10 for a tab.
What I wanted was a mat like storage for dye and stackable runes, that would have help more that gouging tabs.
ImpressiveSkilled
inscriptions and mods should be able to stack, I would pay $10 for that
Clone
They're CHARGING US for this update? Man, Anet has completely sold out. Let me think.... I can shell out $10 and get whole storage tab, or go and drop $15 on a complete and innovative game like Braid. Braid it is then! I bought Guild Wars because it didn't have a monthly fee. If they're just going to start hiding the fee in microtransactions, I might as well not get Guild Wars 2 either. Thanks for making the decision easy Anet.
Alone, it really isn't too outrageous. Not that starting to nickle and dime to death (or Alexander Hamilton to death as the case may be) the remaining population is good. But, it certianly is the last bit of straw that snapped this camel's spine.
Alone, it really isn't too outrageous. Not that starting to nickle and dime to death (or Alexander Hamilton to death as the case may be) the remaining population is good. But, it certianly is the last bit of straw that snapped this camel's spine.
Lonesamurai
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They're CHARGING US for this update?
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Yet again... The UPDATE is free...
the FOUR new Xunlai Storage tabs are $10 each (and optional)
the character storage updates are FREE
Yawgmoth
the price is outrageous!
its the failure of this business model. price of a full campagin with huge ton of content, and including 2+ charslots and a xunlai tab is fair. This is like 300-5000% overpriced, a blatant robbery, and a trap, i'm sad to see many people fall into.
Boycotr it now, or suffer from a new horror business model in the future!
this update is a test for the communitt - pass it (overpay) and you'll kill the old good business model. GW2 may become heavily based on buyimg tiny and extremelly overpriced addons!
/BOYCOTT
its the failure of this business model. price of a full campagin with huge ton of content, and including 2+ charslots and a xunlai tab is fair. This is like 300-5000% overpriced, a blatant robbery, and a trap, i'm sad to see many people fall into.
Boycotr it now, or suffer from a new horror business model in the future!
this update is a test for the communitt - pass it (overpay) and you'll kill the old good business model. GW2 may become heavily based on buyimg tiny and extremelly overpriced addons!
/BOYCOTT
aznkda
/notsigned
$10 isn't much..
Show some support..
Stop QQing..
kkthxbye..
$10 isn't much..
Show some support..
Stop QQing..
kkthxbye..
Jaghar Tharn
/Signed
You can buy an extra account and still be less expensive than buying the extra storage panes... just not worth it imho.
You can buy an extra account and still be less expensive than buying the extra storage panes... just not worth it imho.
slowerpoke
isnt that option supposed to be "I couldnt care less.."
Carboplatin
glad you changed up the choices to make it more fair. good job.
Boneyard Spleeneater
Many moons ago, I was taught the one of the applications of quadratic functions (the ones that graph like a 'U', for those that are sketchy on the algebra). Companies will use it to model how much to charge and how much they can make from a product.
Say it costs bill $.50 to produce, package, and market a candy bar. If he sold them for $.55, he would be making a profit on each unit, albeit a small one, although he would probably sell a lot of them. If he sold them for $100, he would make a huge profit on each candy bar, but probably wouldn't sell very many.
The point is, there is the peak of the 'U' (imagine it upside down) where you maximize your profits and the amount you sell. I would argue that the price Anet is charging for these slots is on the other side of that, but we'll have to wait and see. Since they are competing with other products (character slots, accounts), I think they would be wise to market it differently and charge accordingly.
As for how much accounts cost, that depends on what you want. I got mine at a Xmas clearance at Best Buy for $10 a piece (picked up three). They are just Prophecies, and I got them solely for Mules and Mini farming. XTH wasn't out at the time. Since I can barely play all the toons I have on my main account, I see no reason to add other campaigns to them. So it shouldn't cost much to add more accounts, just look for single campaigns (Proph, F, NF)
Say it costs bill $.50 to produce, package, and market a candy bar. If he sold them for $.55, he would be making a profit on each unit, albeit a small one, although he would probably sell a lot of them. If he sold them for $100, he would make a huge profit on each candy bar, but probably wouldn't sell very many.
The point is, there is the peak of the 'U' (imagine it upside down) where you maximize your profits and the amount you sell. I would argue that the price Anet is charging for these slots is on the other side of that, but we'll have to wait and see. Since they are competing with other products (character slots, accounts), I think they would be wise to market it differently and charge accordingly.
As for how much accounts cost, that depends on what you want. I got mine at a Xmas clearance at Best Buy for $10 a piece (picked up three). They are just Prophecies, and I got them solely for Mules and Mini farming. XTH wasn't out at the time. Since I can barely play all the toons I have on my main account, I see no reason to add other campaigns to them. So it shouldn't cost much to add more accounts, just look for single campaigns (Proph, F, NF)
SkowroN
/notsigned.
You don't gain direct advantage above other players with more storage space so I'm fully ok with this, and come on - Anet is game company, not some pro-players martyrs who will do everything for free. They need money to run business and for GW development so I probably even buy one of these.
You don't gain direct advantage above other players with more storage space so I'm fully ok with this, and come on - Anet is game company, not some pro-players martyrs who will do everything for free. They need money to run business and for GW development so I probably even buy one of these.