Boycott the Storage Update!

Sweet Mystery

Sweet Mystery

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Shadow Hunters Of Light [SHOL]

R/

/notsigned

You seriously think that extra disk space magically appears? Get real in the world and look at things. You cannot expect this to be handed out for free. You will get an equipment pack - that is free. If want more storage tabs then pay for them.

Mister Me

Mister Me

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

/not signed for all reasons above
Okay, it could have been for free, or just like half the price, ofcourse that would have been much better for the players...
But imo it's good like this, again, you don't have to buy it. When I read the OP I really tought it was made without thinking about it first.

Wish Swiftdeath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/W

Tl;dr

*responding to title

They are already giving us extra storage.

If you REALLY need to hoard that much crap, pay for it. I would rather Anet spend their time doing something useful like skillbalances.

snaek

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

theres no reason to boycott...those who want to buy it will buy it, those who wont, wont. i won't tell people not to buy storage, i will simply lol @ them for doing so.

Vl Vl D

Vl Vl D

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Australia

[DVDF]

/notsigned

You are all wrong... It should be $15.

Karuro

Karuro

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Netherlands, Europe

Mystic Spiral [MYST]

W/

I'm with the preferring $5 / ACTUAL EXCHANGE RATE people.
They were ripping us Euro's off last time I checked the store.

Dami

Dami

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

/ not signed.

people wanted more storage so A-net give them the chance to get it. They never said it wouldn't cost anything. If you don't want it then don't buy it. stupid to think a boycott will solve anything apart from anet not bothering any more.

dilan155

dilan155

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

living room

N/

/notsigned, if you need it bad enough youll buy it otherwise it wont matter anyway. you do get a small amount of free things here and there which for me is good enough.
as a side note i do think $10 is a bit too much maybe like 5 dollars

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

I did consider trying to starting a blog calling for a boycott myself, eventually decided against it for two reasons.
Firstly there are large numbers of players who are well able to pay and will do just that, so the boycot wouldn't work.
Secondly Its their game they are entitled to price things however they wish.


I can buy all four games for £25 giving me plenty of storage via a second account.
Or I can buy each game for £10 or buy a new Character slot.
All of those are better value than buying extra storage though they are not as convenient as having more xunlai storage tabs.

I will get the extra pack for each character and see how this opportunity to gain an extra tab actually works.

Doubt I will buy any tabs myself its just far too late in GW evolution to make it worth while.
Would gladly have bought them as each game came out but the opportunity wasn't there.

Please think about that for GW2 and any future GW2 based expansions.
Let players buy slots early in the games evolution and they will be far happier and you will sell many more.

JR

JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

It's optional.

Anet can charge $3,500 for a special edition Gaile Grey minipet if they want, as long as they aren't forcing anyone to buy it.

BadgerznPie

BadgerznPie

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2008

Mo/

QQ moar?
People who have the cash + want to grab things quickly without switching chars will buy it. Those who don't care won't. No one's making you buy it.

Legion Magnus

Legion Magnus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Legion Magnus

W/

I will not pay for extra storage, even if the cost was $1. And I would certainly not use the PlayNC or In Game Store (for anything).

I have wanted extra storage since the beginning. I am glad that some is being offered free, and will gladly accept it. Many clamored for more storage space, and some even said they'd be willing to pay for it. ANet has finally responded.

I do think $10 is a bit pricey for what you're being offered. As to how much revenue ANet will generate for Pay-For-Storage, I suspect the market will inevitably decide this issue.

I guess I will be boycotting the optional purchase, because I will not pay for storage, and will not use the IG Store.

glacialphoenix

glacialphoenix

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2008

Singapore

Royal Order of Flying Lemmings [ROFL]

Mo/

Quote:
i suspect no one gets one single slot of storage for free glacialphoenix, you know how when you only have one backpack and the rest of the slots is empty until you buy a bag to put in the slots, the free slots is that slots, to hold the equipment packs (i think thats what it is) so there's no free storage what so ever this update.
Hm. I got the feeling that the equipment pack was free, because it's more likely that they'll state up front what you do have to pay for than what you don't have to pay for. This being an 'update' of sorts, people are generally going to assume that you don't have to pay other than specified.

So if all I have to do is spend a bit of ingame gold for that storage space: well, it's not money in real life, and that's good enough for me. I'll cope without if need be. What the OP is complaining about is something that was stated up front to be entirely optional, that you could choose to purchase. They didn't hide anything.

It would of course be an entirely different matter if they gave people the impression that it was free, and then turned around and said it wasn't. But this isn't the case, so I don't see why people are upset. I don't think it's exploiting the players - they have to find a way to fund that extra storage, and people have said they're willing to pay for that extra Xunlai anyway.

enlightened

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

The League Of Friends

W/Mo

/signed

Develop some proper new content instead.

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

I'll be the combo breaker and say /signed (but, let me explain why).

GW has been and continues to be a no-fee-to-play game. I believe that they originally did that because they believed and cared for gamers and felt that we would prefer it that way.

In the past they have continued that tradition; however, this is obviously a ploy for money. The price is way too expensive considering what you get and I highly doubt that we will get any storage tabs for free (unless you win some "contest").

In the end, I think this is a bad choice and a bad direction for GW to head. I really hope that very few people buy storage tabs so they will see that the community does not like being ripped off. Tbh, I'll just keep buying mules. It's the same price, you get more storage, and I can actually play the character if I want.

Kay84

Kay84

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Netherlands

[DVDF]

E/

/unsigned

Optional micro payments are fine with me.

Shadowhaze

Shadowhaze

Nothing, tra la la?

Join Date: Oct 2007

I think we should be thankful that they've actually given us the ability for more storage space. We get some for free anyway, so that's a nice thing. You can choose to buy or not to buy the extra if you want (as has been said). On the other hand, perhaps a tad overpriced, but they need to keep things going somehow, so yeah. In anycase, I'm just glad they've finally given us a bit more storage. Thank you anet.

bel unbreakable

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

scotland

shadow hunters of light

W/Mo

/not signed
they need to make cash and as long as the stuff they sell is cosmetic then i dont have any issues with it at all.
only thing that will stop me buying the extra storage is the wife

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

I don't think a boycott will prove effective here. However i'm sure the anet people have seen the number of people who think that is too much money wise and will change it before the actual update is implemented. $10 for an extra 20 item storage slot is steep for what you're getting. $5 would be reasonable, i think.

I'm just hoping they hear our concerns and will give some thought to lowering the price.

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

/NotSigned

We get an extra storage tab AND an equipment tab for no charge. You have not seen how much the Equipment tab holds, but it is safe to assume that it will hold more than a handful of weapons and an armor set.

The purpose of a game is to entertain players and make money. We will be given additional storage and if you want more than what is given for free then Anet has every right to charge players for it.

Miss Puddles

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

SRSLY?

Typing some little whiny banter is not going to change anything. Do you even know what boycott means lol? You realize that you are going to get some storage upgrades whether you pay for it or not, right? Go ahead and "boycott" then, cause that means less complete morons taking up space ingame.

Snorph

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Riverside,Ca

Kings Of Heaven And Earth

E/Me

I am sick of idiot posts like this, CLOSE.

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

(shoos this thread away)

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

So how are you boycotting this exactly?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweet Mystery View Post
You seriously think that extra disk space magically appears?
Thats the weakest argument ever. You seriously think a couple of kB's per account at best is going to make that much of a difference?

Burst Cancel

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

I love it when people talk about what price something "should" be. The reality is that you don't have a damn clue what the price should be, and you are not qualified to opine on the price in the first place.

You know what decides what the price "should" be? The market. Accurate a priori pricing is pretty much impossible, especially for you internet cumgarglers that think prices are based on handwaving bullshit like arbitrarily fabricated moral obligations and what you, personally, would pay for something.

PlasticBlue

PlasticBlue

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Middelburg

The Sneezing Dragons

E/

/not signed
Serverspace does not grow on trees!

BUT I do believe they should make it cheaper because you get more storage space on a new character slot or a new account, for a better price.
I'm totally pro-april update, but they should really rethink the price if they plan on selling a lot of those storage tabs.

rohara

rohara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Rt/

$10 is an awful lot for a wee storage upgrade. i don't mind that they're charging for it, i just think they're charging too much.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by glacialphoenix View Post
Hm. I got the feeling that the equipment pack was free,
I got the feeling that this update is any normal FREE update a couple of days ago too.

we'll just have to wait and see. I rather they make it an expansion pack this is too sneaky.

CronkTheImpaler

CronkTheImpaler

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

midwest

AE

W/Me

/Not Signed

As been stated repeatedly, you are not forced to buy one to keep up with the jones'es. A-net has the right to create and charge whatever they like. They do this knowing it MAY or MAY NOT be successful.

Bottom line. dont buy it. seems simple enough. do you boycott every company that doesnt do as you wish.

I have been hoping car makers would make a cup holder to fit the epic 96oz slurpy.. but to no avail. i still have to cram it between the stick shift and the seat.



Cronk

Carboplatin

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A

/not signed.

people deserve to get paid for what they do. You are getting some free storage and contents already.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

most people actually thought it is normal live team update thing, read that other anticipation thread, some people even defended Arena Net saying they are doing all this for free and that people should just shut up, now see the result, free my ass. :P

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Do I want more storage?
Of course I do!
Do I need more storage?
Of course I don't!

After the announcement of GW2 - the way I play the game has changed.
I delete things. Characters, weapons, other items.
Thus, there is no way in hell that I'll be buying more storage. But, I am perfectly fine with other people buying it.

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

This is so retarded im not even going to bother trying to troll everyone.

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

wow Anet is a company out to get money? im so shocked.

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

You people are selfish. You bitch about needing more storage space, and then bitch about this?

Kiva-chan

Kiva-chan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

Mo/A

/Not Signed

It's been debated enough already, but the fact remains the same that;
Anet will be providing everyone with a 'storage upgrade' (in the form of equipment packs),
an opportunity to get additional account storage for free and the option to purchase more storage if that's still not enough.

How many gold/green weapons do you store on your mules?
How many armor/weapon sets do your mains carry?

Most, if not all those items will soon be out of your current inventory spaces.
You've played up to now with the storage you have, and soon you'll be getting even more.
So what's the problem?


Quote:
Originally Posted by CronkTheImpaler View Post
I have been hoping car makers would make a cup holder to fit the epic 96oz slurpy.. but to no avail. i still have to cram it between the stick shift and the seat.
/Signed for boycotting the car makers until they make bigger cup holders!

Hanging Man

Hanging Man

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Deep in the Shire

/notsigned

It isn't like Anet is forcing you to pay the $10 to get storage. Also I can see it from Anet's angle. They created a fee-free game, and they need to generate revenue somehow.
I am not going to buy one, but it seems like a reasonable idea.

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel View Post
You people are selfish. You bitch about needing more storage space, and then bitch about this?
I don't think people are so upset about the fact that they're charging. I think people are upset that it's 9.99 USD, which is the same price of a character slot or a Guild Wars Platinum (at Gamestop or Walmart) and that's just stupid marketing.

Why would we want to pay for 20 slots when we can get 40 or more for the same price?

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
I'll be the combo breaker and say /signed (but, let me explain why).

GW has been and continues to be a no-fee-to-play game. I believe that they originally did that because they believed and cared for gamers and felt that we would prefer it that way.

In the past they have continued that tradition; however, this is obviously a ploy for money. The price is way too expensive considering what you get and I highly doubt that we will get any storage tabs for free (unless you win some "contest").

In the end, I think this is a bad choice and a bad direction for GW to head. I really hope that very few people buy storage tabs so they will see that the community does not like being ripped off. Tbh, I'll just keep buying mules. It's the same price, you get more storage, and I can actually play the character if I want.
So where were you when Character Slots became buyable?

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
I don't think people are so upset about the fact that they're charging. I think people are upset that it's 9.99 USD, which is the same price of a character slot or a Guild Wars Platinum (at Gamestop or Walmart) and that's just stupid marketing.

Why would we want to pay for 20 slots when we can get 40 or more for the same price?
See my post #40:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...urdock#Storage

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linsey
You pay for the convenience of not having to transfer between characters. Yes that is a total of 9 tabs + material storage. For now, the Equipment Pack won't be on the F9 screen and you will need to drag your weapons and armor over the bag and drop it to place it in the pack. Yes I know that sucks, but that is the way it needs to work for now because of the minimum resolution. If we decide to increase bag sizes (which we would like to do at some point) we will need to increase the minimum resolution available. That is one of the reasons we went with the Equipment Pack right now instead. Another is that a pack which restricts what can be put in it does save on data storage quite a bit. Once we have released these things and assessed their effect on the servers we can evaluate the need or ability to offer more storage upgrades in the future.
Quote:
Oops, sorry, it does let you put UNcustomized weapons in there too since shields and focii don't get customized and most casters don't customize their weapons either. So it is uncustomized weapons, and weapons/armor customized by the char storing it. It's allowing weapons customized to multiple different people that is one of the biggest problems with general storage. So just cutting that out alone allowed us to do the Equipment Pack and it was actually Mike O'Brien who suggested the idea in one of our big meetings on storage.