Big frickin babies, I swear...
/notsigned
Boycott the Storage Update!
Skyy High
Empress Amarox
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Originally Posted by CronkTheImpaler
Bottom line. dont buy it. seems simple enough. do you boycott every company that doesnt do as you wish.
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Except, 1 random person here and there isn't exactly enough reason for a company to care.
Then again, "as you wish" could mean a lot of things... Like, things you'd maybe kinda like, or things you'd strongly disagree with, or things that you think are just appalling and the people responsible should be dragged out onto the street then tar-and-feathered for it and perhaps pitchcapped after for good measure...
I'd say probably so to the latter of those... The first, not so much.
keli
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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus
I don't think people are so upset about the fact that they're charging. I think people are upset that it's 9.99 USD, which is the same price of a character slot or a Guild Wars Platinum (at Gamestop or Walmart) and that's just stupid marketing.
Why would we want to pay for 20 slots when we can get 40 or more for the same price? |
/notsigned this BS
seriously what were you thinking?
![]HM[ Sabre Wolf](/static/static/../Img/avatar102835_2.gif){kind=avatar}
]HM[ Sabre Wolf
/not signing...
(on a standard 8 toon account, no added slots)
Equipment storage will open up (hopefully) 10 slots per toon... and then the free chest for another 20 slots... thats 100 slots of space for free... which will be another whole X Chest worth of space...
The more I think about it... the more I am ok with the $10 for each extra space... if you need more then a 100 extra slots... you have serious pack rat issues...
(on a standard 8 toon account, no added slots)
Equipment storage will open up (hopefully) 10 slots per toon... and then the free chest for another 20 slots... thats 100 slots of space for free... which will be another whole X Chest worth of space...
The more I think about it... the more I am ok with the $10 for each extra space... if you need more then a 100 extra slots... you have serious pack rat issues...
a-kyle
this is understandable but what about people who dont have Visas or master cards there left out. So guildwars should allow plays to pay with ecto's maybe 10 ectos for the 10 dollars?
Karate Jesus
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Originally Posted by keli
if you dont want then dont buy easy as pie...
/notsigned this BS seriously what were you thinking? |
Everyone please stop being stereotypical by saying either "Stop being babies!" "QQ moar" and actually give a reason why you don't like it. Que es discussion?
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by Burst Cancel
I love it when people talk about what price something "should" be. The reality is that you don't have a damn clue what the price should be, and you are not qualified to opine on the price in the first place.
You know what decides what the price "should" be? The market. Accurate a priori pricing is pretty much impossible, especially for you internet cumgarglers that think prices are based on handwaving bullshit like arbitrarily fabricated moral obligations and what you, personally, would pay for something. |
* Buy two character slots for total of 10$
They both offer better "storage performance" (two slots are 5 times more of storage that panel, account is 12 times more storage+material storage; if we count new bag slots it is 6 times and 14 times more respectivelly)
They are different as far as convenience and other nonstorage benefits are concerned, but simplest math is simple: According to current pricing, storage tab is worth around 1.50$. If you would pay more, you are better off with slots or accounts.
Consider that people still want more storage with theese two options. Somethings tells me that "demand" does not think that 1.5$ storage tab is good deal, because otherwise it would be satisfied by buying accounts (which have also other significant benefits).
pigdestroyer
No, shut up.
akio pwns
/signed
This is a scam for peole who have alot of items, farm alot, have alot of armor they dont want to throw away on multiple characters.
If they would of made it smaller price of close to $2 per then we would all jump in and it would be great, but $10 is pushing it. This isnt like the bonus pack or skill packs which are useful for situations.
People who dont sign for this are complete shlobs who would typicaly go for anything looking great on the surface
This is a scam for peole who have alot of items, farm alot, have alot of armor they dont want to throw away on multiple characters.
If they would of made it smaller price of close to $2 per then we would all jump in and it would be great, but $10 is pushing it. This isnt like the bonus pack or skill packs which are useful for situations.
People who dont sign for this are complete shlobs who would typicaly go for anything looking great on the surface
farmerfez
how can you boycott something that's being automatically put into the game...
jiggles
Anet didnt make you get all the items you tool.
shinta_himura
/sign
How long did we wait for them to complete this "super storage update"? Not once did we see any mention that we would be charged for additional storage in the update. They're only mentioning it now not even a month before they're updating, and trying to make it up to us by giving us some Daily Quests and a lvl5 pet station (which also includes more money-milking opportunities for them). So I guess these amazing twice a year updates are going to be small patches of not-so-green grass with a price-tag.
Do not enable Anet to do this by saying "well it's anet they need the money and I will follow them into volcanos and insult anyone who says otherwise". NCSoft is a corporation and it's their job to herd their followers and convince them that they need money. Look at ANY and EVERY corporation. There is at least one person there that knows how to bait people and rake in cash. The point is to make large profits not exist on the fringe of going into the red. If they really needed money we might be seeing even small allusions to it, such as "Please donate to support our servers" or whatever nonsense.
Don't even say "Well maybe the price could be lower". Why is there even a price on storage space in a game this big? How long has storage been an obvious issue? How long has Anet been saying "We're looking at ways to improve your storage"? And now at the zero hour when there's no time left they're charging you for something you need in order to further their wants (and there's no time left to boycott, because if this were up for discussion the initial plans however many months ago would have been "we're looking at adding Pay2Store options" in order to gauge public approval).
How long did we wait for them to complete this "super storage update"? Not once did we see any mention that we would be charged for additional storage in the update. They're only mentioning it now not even a month before they're updating, and trying to make it up to us by giving us some Daily Quests and a lvl5 pet station (which also includes more money-milking opportunities for them). So I guess these amazing twice a year updates are going to be small patches of not-so-green grass with a price-tag.
Do not enable Anet to do this by saying "well it's anet they need the money and I will follow them into volcanos and insult anyone who says otherwise". NCSoft is a corporation and it's their job to herd their followers and convince them that they need money. Look at ANY and EVERY corporation. There is at least one person there that knows how to bait people and rake in cash. The point is to make large profits not exist on the fringe of going into the red. If they really needed money we might be seeing even small allusions to it, such as "Please donate to support our servers" or whatever nonsense.
Don't even say "Well maybe the price could be lower". Why is there even a price on storage space in a game this big? How long has storage been an obvious issue? How long has Anet been saying "We're looking at ways to improve your storage"? And now at the zero hour when there's no time left they're charging you for something you need in order to further their wants (and there's no time left to boycott, because if this were up for discussion the initial plans however many months ago would have been "we're looking at adding Pay2Store options" in order to gauge public approval).
Karate Jesus
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Originally Posted by farmerfez
how can you boycott something that's being automatically put into the game...
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Look, here's how it works. If enough people don't buy it, then the company will get the hint that we don't want to pay $10 for storage and they'll lower the price.
MisterT69
/notsigned because we're getting free tabs either way. More slots are ftw, but I'm not paying 10 bucks for another tab. I'm sure the what, roughly ~100-200 extra slots should be more than satisfactory. If A-net realizes that not many people besides a select group of pack rats are paying for tabs, then they'll either lower the price or eliminate it altogether. But right now, these extra tabs are more than enough for moi.
drago34
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Originally Posted by king swift
/Signed. I feel like this is an update to gain money rather than an update to help the players. I am boycotting the buying of the extra storage.
-IGN: King Swift |
/notsigned
keli
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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus
Lol, read the post above you. Amarox is right. Not buying = boycotting. Hut-duuuuur.
Everyone please stop being stereotypical by saying either "Stop being babies!" "QQ moar" and actually give a reason why you don't like it. Que es discussion? |
boycott = you agree that you wont buy the thingy which you WANT to buy anyway (economic boycott)
so you ask everybody who wants to buy to dont buy it
i wont buy it because i dont need it, but i wrote down my opinion about this and in my opinion this is a big BS...
so i encourage everybody to buy it if he wants, and if somebody doesnt want to buy it then dont
Copenhagen Master
/Unsigned Let ANET charge for extra storage spaces IT IS A FREE GAME! If ANET really wanted money they would of charged a monthy fee and NOT made the storage upgrades. Think about it, make storage upgrades for $10 or don't make them and let people just buy extra accounts or extra chars which cost more.
Darcy
I'm sure this has been mentioned somewhere in this thread, but a lot of people wont' buy the extra storage. ArenaNet has always made "pay-for" extras optional so you buy what you desire or can afford.
Making it sound like they are trying to force you into an expensive add-on is ridiculous.
A new equipment bag for each character will supply most players with sufficient extra storage and cost only in-game gold. While I do not consider $10 excessive for another storage pane, I don't think I will need one.
Only big-time traders would really need all the extra storage being made available, and they will look at it as the cost of doing business (although most of them already have multiple accounts for storage).
Making it sound like they are trying to force you into an expensive add-on is ridiculous.
A new equipment bag for each character will supply most players with sufficient extra storage and cost only in-game gold. While I do not consider $10 excessive for another storage pane, I don't think I will need one.
Only big-time traders would really need all the extra storage being made available, and they will look at it as the cost of doing business (although most of them already have multiple accounts for storage).
Karate Jesus
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Originally Posted by Darcy
I'm sure this has been mentioned somewhere in this thread, but a lot of people wont' buy the extra storage. ArenaNet has always made "pay-for" extras optional so you buy what you desire or can afford.
Making it sound like they are trying to force you into an expensive add-on is ridiculous. A new equipment bag for each character will supply most players with sufficient extra storage and cost only in-game gold. While I do not consider $10 excessive for another storage pane, I don't think I will need one. Only big-time traders would really need all the extra storage being made available, and they will look at it as the cost of doing business (although most of them already have multiple accounts for storage). |
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by shinta_himura
The point is to make large profits not exist on the fringe of going into the red. If they really needed money we might be seeing even small allusions to it, such as "Please donate to support our servers" or whatever nonsense.
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2005: Prophecies (may)
2006: Factions (may), character slots, PvP unlock pack, Nightfall (november)
2007: EoTN (September), BMP (december)
2008: various upgrades/unlock packs and game packages
2009: even more storage
It's nowhere near a monthly fee or a "donation"...
Masseur
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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus
Lol, read the post above you. Amarox is right. Not buying = boycotting. Hut-duuuuur.
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THAT is the definition of boycott, DUH, so just not buying 1 thing they sell isn't boycotting, stop playing or buying anything and you will actually live up to the definition. Anet has answered the players who whined they were holding onto too much stuff and are now giving a bonus to the majority of the players who don't necessarily need the extra space. I see no problem here but a company listening to it's player base.
MagmaRed
I have a good idea 
Wait until Anet releases FULL, official, detailed information about what is being added, and HOW it is being added before complaining. Even if they charge for EVERYTHING they add, none of it is required to buy, so wait to see what advantages this 'new' stuff provides before complaining about having to buy it.
Hell Raiser
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ArenaNet is adding a feature, which has been asked for for a while, it's their choice what they price it, just like it's your choice to buy it (or not). I might not buy the upgrades (right away, could in the future), but it's a good addition.
P.S. Not buying 1 product != Boycotting
ArenaNet is adding a feature, which has been asked for for a while, it's their choice what they price it, just like it's your choice to buy it (or not). I might not buy the upgrades (right away, could in the future), but it's a good addition.
P.S. Not buying 1 product != Boycotting
FoxBat
How about "if I think it's too expensive I'm not buying it." Which is what everyone is doing anyway. What's the point of a protest?
Boycotts are targeted at companies for other reasons... like "well the price is reasonable but they eat babies, so I am going to buy from another company and tell everyone else to do the same." Because not buying something just because it's too expensive is common sense and how the market works anyway.
Boycotts are targeted at companies for other reasons... like "well the price is reasonable but they eat babies, so I am going to buy from another company and tell everyone else to do the same." Because not buying something just because it's too expensive is common sense and how the market works anyway.
Lagg
Not signed.
These are hard times and ArenaNet wants to make some money. Let them.
These are hard times and ArenaNet wants to make some money. Let them.
Crom The Pale
/NOTsigned.
I can't believe people are complaining before its even released. Since we are getting FREE extra storage for weapons and armor I can't figure out what people could be storing that 4 tabs + character storage wouldn't cover? Thats the 4 tabs people have if you own all chapters + the material storage.
I can't believe people are complaining before its even released. Since we are getting FREE extra storage for weapons and armor I can't figure out what people could be storing that 4 tabs + character storage wouldn't cover? Thats the 4 tabs people have if you own all chapters + the material storage.
riktw
/halfsignet.
idea is good, but 10 bugs is a bit to much.
make if half and i'l take 4, now i just got money enough for 2
idea is good, but 10 bugs is a bit to much.
make if half and i'l take 4, now i just got money enough for 2
Operative 14
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Frankly I think all you're paying for is the convenience of not having to switch between characters, which to me is worth another $5 on top of what I would be willing to pay for the tab itself. Basically I'm saying yes it's overpriced, but it's worth it.
And frankly, as others have said, Arenanet didn't have to add this, just like they didn't have to give us 3 extra tabs and 1 materials tab for free originally.
Frankly I think all you're paying for is the convenience of not having to switch between characters, which to me is worth another $5 on top of what I would be willing to pay for the tab itself. Basically I'm saying yes it's overpriced, but it's worth it.
And frankly, as others have said, Arenanet didn't have to add this, just like they didn't have to give us 3 extra tabs and 1 materials tab for free originally.
Tab
Couldn't care less whether they charge for new storage spaces. Is it really of any importance whatsoever whether anyone pays for some more space? If you don't like it, suck it up and stick to the free storage upgrades.
english storm
Wow just wow, some people just leave me speechless. Listen closely, you are not entitled to any more storage, it's something Anet is doing to help you, if you don't want it, don't buy it! Yes they will make money from people that want to by more storage tabs but you don't need them to play the game and last time i checked, Anet was a business.
/notsigned!
/notsigned!
MMSDome
You PvE idiots piss me off. First you bitch about not enough storage but now you finally have an opportunity to get more and you bitch about that too.
Listen; YOU HAVE THE OPTION NOW. They are a business and as there is no monthly fee they have found a way to make money so you can CHOOSE to get more storage or not, thats up to you.
Listen; YOU HAVE THE OPTION NOW. They are a business and as there is no monthly fee they have found a way to make money so you can CHOOSE to get more storage or not, thats up to you.
Sniper22
Um... keep in mind you aren't charged a monthly fee.
Bill Clinton
I'm heartwarmed after reading the comments in this thread. After first seeing about the update on the main site I was happy ANET had released something and was willing to pay the 10$, even if just to help them out.
Then after reading the wiki comments page and posts from people like King swift here, I seriously raged.
But a lot of people are /notsigning. Its good some of us have got some sense.....
I honestly think people QQing are just trolls, and idiots.
/notsigned
Then after reading the wiki comments page and posts from people like King swift here, I seriously raged.
But a lot of people are /notsigning. Its good some of us have got some sense.....
I honestly think people QQing are just trolls, and idiots.
/notsigned
Coverticus
Something else to add that I forgot to mention in my earlier post:
Companies will release a product at the highest price possible upon release. Purely to recoup development cost and whatnot since they will know the die hard contingent of Guild Wars will be buying, at the bare minimum, one extra slot.
After a period of time, they will probably look at it again and lower the price. Just like all 4 versions of this game have been lowered.
Not all of us here are a.) idiots, b.) bitching and c.) purely PvE. Judging by the QQs going on in the sister thread of this one, PvPers are just as bad at complaining when they don't get their own way/content/update. So leave this kinda comment to yourself please.
Companies will release a product at the highest price possible upon release. Purely to recoup development cost and whatnot since they will know the die hard contingent of Guild Wars will be buying, at the bare minimum, one extra slot.
After a period of time, they will probably look at it again and lower the price. Just like all 4 versions of this game have been lowered.
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You PvE idiots p*** me off. First you bitch about.....
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Boneyard Spleeneater
I'm going to chime in, although some of my points may have been made by others...
It looks like I will be somewhat satisfied by the update. An extra tab is nice, and equipment packs = win.
As for the $9.99 for a tab, well, there are two things that effect this
1) A character slot is $9.99. You get 45 slots (not including heroes and such) plus the ability to farm for minis. Twice as much space, but slightly less convenient, although not so much more so.
2) A new account runs around $10 or so (I bought a few a while back). Much less convenient, but you get 45x4 slots, 40 chest panes, extra material storage, 4 more mini farmers, and extra ZKey accounts. Even if they decide that GWx2 is unacceptable, no problem; I got three computers on my desk.
Both of these scenarios do not take into account the upgrades to storage on them. Both character slots and mule accounts will become more efficient with the upgrade. The only advantage to the Xunlai chest being bigger is not having to swap characters or fire up mules as often.
My point; I think ANet simply missed the price point on this. $2.99, or even $4.99 might be a better price for this (if it was $2.99 a piece, or $9.99 for all of them, I would buy for all my accounts right now), and balance out the storage capacity vs. convenience equation. Maybe they'll change it, maybe they won't. I will hop on the free slot and see how it goes, and maybe buy one in the future, but I won't be rushing to spend $9.99 right away. I got mules for that. Until the money equation works better for me, that is how I see it.
So, /unsigned, not because I think they did it completely right, but because I think that supply and demand will bring the price into equilibrium if people play this one smart.
Now might be a good time to pick up a couple of extra accounts and take advantage of the free slot
It looks like I will be somewhat satisfied by the update. An extra tab is nice, and equipment packs = win.
As for the $9.99 for a tab, well, there are two things that effect this
1) A character slot is $9.99. You get 45 slots (not including heroes and such) plus the ability to farm for minis. Twice as much space, but slightly less convenient, although not so much more so.
2) A new account runs around $10 or so (I bought a few a while back). Much less convenient, but you get 45x4 slots, 40 chest panes, extra material storage, 4 more mini farmers, and extra ZKey accounts. Even if they decide that GWx2 is unacceptable, no problem; I got three computers on my desk.
Both of these scenarios do not take into account the upgrades to storage on them. Both character slots and mule accounts will become more efficient with the upgrade. The only advantage to the Xunlai chest being bigger is not having to swap characters or fire up mules as often.
My point; I think ANet simply missed the price point on this. $2.99, or even $4.99 might be a better price for this (if it was $2.99 a piece, or $9.99 for all of them, I would buy for all my accounts right now), and balance out the storage capacity vs. convenience equation. Maybe they'll change it, maybe they won't. I will hop on the free slot and see how it goes, and maybe buy one in the future, but I won't be rushing to spend $9.99 right away. I got mules for that. Until the money equation works better for me, that is how I see it.
So, /unsigned, not because I think they did it completely right, but because I think that supply and demand will bring the price into equilibrium if people play this one smart.
Now might be a good time to pick up a couple of extra accounts and take advantage of the free slot
MMSDome
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Something else to add that I forgot to mention in my earlier post:
Companies will release a product at the highest price possible upon release. Purely to recoup development cost and whatnot since they will know the die hard contingent of Guild Wars will be buying, at the bare minimum, one extra slot. After a period of time, they will probably look at it again and lower the price. Just like all 4 versions of this game have been lowered. Not all of us here are a.) idiots, b.) bitching and c.) purely PvE. Judging by the QQs going on in the sister thread of this one, PvPers are just as bad at complaining when they don't get their own way/content/update. So leave this kinda comment to yourself please. |
MisterB
I appreciate the opportunity to obtain more storage for a fee, but with the added equipment packs(FREE storage upgrade is here, folks), I can't possibly think why I'd need more space.
Giga_Gaia
All I can see from the OP's post is : QQ. Honestly, if you don't want it, don't buy it. They did spend a lot of effort into making this so they DESERVE to get paid for their efforts. Geez people these days, they want everything handed to them on a silver platter.
Yeah, /notsigned
Yeah, /notsigned
king swift
My main argument. They know everybody wants the storage. So, they make the storage available and charge a ridiculous amount ($10) for it hoping to rip everybody off because they know everybody wants it so desperately.
Verene
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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus
it's 9.99 USD, which is the same price of a character slot or a Guild Wars Platinum (at Gamestop
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My main argument. They know everybody wants the storage. So, they make the storage available and charge a ridiculous amount ($10) for it hoping to rip everybody off because they know everybody wants it so desperately.
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And on top of that, they are giving us some extra for FREE anyway.
Really, "it should be free because people want it" is the stupidest reason ever. Going by that, everything should be free. I shouldn't have had to pay for my new laptop, because I desperately wanted it. We shouldn't have had to pay for GW originally, because we all wanted it. And so on.
Reality doesn't work that way. No one's making you buy it.