Boycott the Storage Update!
NuclearSlug
What sense does it make to pay $10 for extra storage when $20 will get me a whole new account, double my current storage, add mules, and even give me another account for XTH! Bah, a waste of $10 if you ask me.
Arkantos
Storage tab - 20 item slots - $10
Character slot - 45 item slots - $10
I know what I won't be buying.
Character slot - 45 item slots - $10
I know what I won't be buying.
Davros Uitar
/ Not Signed
The quote from Pluto does win the thread - grats.
The update isn't here yet and we have this out of place call for a boycott of a product that someone doesn't want to buy. Supply, demand, cost (server space) and return (cash flow) will determine whether this venture is a success. I am glad that we get a certain amount of free new content in this game. I don't demand that all new content should be free, and am more than happy enough for Anet to have a strategy and let market forces go to work.
The quote from Pluto does win the thread - grats.
The update isn't here yet and we have this out of place call for a boycott of a product that someone doesn't want to buy. Supply, demand, cost (server space) and return (cash flow) will determine whether this venture is a success. I am glad that we get a certain amount of free new content in this game. I don't demand that all new content should be free, and am more than happy enough for Anet to have a strategy and let market forces go to work.
KZaske
/ Not signed. As for the OP's comments about not whining, isn't that what he/she/it is doing?
If you don't want to buy it, don't buy it.
I will be buying a few storage tabs for two different accounts. Besides; ANet needs recover the cost of update development and the increased server load. I am hoping they install a few new servers, it would help cut down the lag.
If you don't want to buy it, don't buy it.
I will be buying a few storage tabs for two different accounts. Besides; ANet needs recover the cost of update development and the increased server load. I am hoping they install a few new servers, it would help cut down the lag.
EPO Bot
This is all void for me since i don't have a VISA to use the store. Some other payment methods would be fine. I wanna try out the BMP.
rohara
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Storage tab - 20 item slots - $10
Character slot - 45 item slots - $10 I know what I won't be buying. |
the price is just really wrong for the storage tabs. $10 for a few extra kilobytes of disk space is a ripoff. you can buy a 500gig hard drive for about $50 - about $10 per GIGAbyte. i realize there is a level of service/convenience being added, but i'm having a hard time justifying the cost as a hardware nerd AND as an avid GW fan.
i've already shelled out $30 each for proph, nf, and nightfall, another $50 for factions collector's edition, $40 on extra character slots, $5 on game of the year upgrade, $5 for the eotn preview, $10 for the bonus mission pack, and another $25 or so on eotn itself. my main account is sporting over $200 worth of software and addons. i also have 2 alt PvP accounts and 6 prophecies only accounts. i feel as though i've paid my dues tbh, and i don't feel like blowing anymore money on GW until GW2.
so asking for another $40 (or $30, depending on the free one) to solve my storage problems which have existed since the game's inception is a bit annoying. i've already purchased 4 additional character slots (mules) to try and curb the problem. why pay $10 for less than half the storage you could get with a new character slot? sure, it is more convenient because it goes into your xunlai box, but it's still technically a ripoff. i won't purchase these storage upgrades unless the price is dramatically readjusted.
enter_the_zone
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/ Not Signed
The quote from Pluto does win the thread - grats. The update isn't here yet and we have this out of place call for a boycott of a product that someone doesn't want to buy. Supply, demand, cost (server space) and return (cash flow) will determine whether this venture is a success. I am glad that we get a certain amount of free new content in this game. I don't demand that all new content should be free, and am more than happy enough for Anet to have a strategy and let market forces go to work. |
2) Nor do I, but it'd be nice if the content they were expecting to get paid for was a) worthwhile and b) something the community has wanted for ages. Like a mods trader and stackable runes/mods. Now that, I'd pay for. Hell, I'd have paid $10 for another BMP or to make the BMP weapons available with mods already on.
Typically for Anet, they've looked to address an issue the community has complained about, then just taken an absolute blunt force approach with zero thought about solving the cause of the issue in the first place.
Taldur
Will these item panes be available to our guild wars 2 characters, as we are getting closer to the release. So i am not paying $10 for a storage update that will probably not be used as much on the final release.
Wrath of m0o
I dont know who would pay $10 for a storage slot when you could pay $10 and have another character slot..and have even more storage.
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Fril Estelin
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you can buy a 500gig hard drive for about $50 - about $10 per GIGAbyte. i realize there is a level of service/convenience being added
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Furthermore, the $10 do not only buy you 20more storage slots, it's the convenience of having them in the Xunlai Storage, which doesn't require you to swap chars(+use a temporary Xunlai Storage tab for the swap) or accounts (not everyone can run GWx2).
LifesRestorer
$10 = New character slot --> 45 slots
$10 = New storage tab --> 20 slots
This isn't about not being able to afford it, or not wanting it. It's about a personal sense of worth. We all have $10 and can afford to pay for a storage tab, but is paying more than DOUBLE the price of what alternative storage slots are worth in the form of new characters really worth the convenience?
Watch this video from 5:15. I couldn't have summed it up better myself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb8rdc-0OpQ
$10 = New storage tab --> 20 slots
This isn't about not being able to afford it, or not wanting it. It's about a personal sense of worth. We all have $10 and can afford to pay for a storage tab, but is paying more than DOUBLE the price of what alternative storage slots are worth in the form of new characters really worth the convenience?
Watch this video from 5:15. I couldn't have summed it up better myself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb8rdc-0OpQ
vodka
No need for a boycott.
Anet needs money? Fine. I will come back to the game and am going to buy another character slot this summer, even if I don't need it, since I will have more time to play.
The storage tabs for 10$?
I would find them useful, but the price tag is too high.
When (IF) they consider lowering it, I might be tempted to buy all 4 purchasable additional tabs. At the current proposed price not even a single one.
Also, the FREE pane will be tied to a special offer, read carefully, tied to a special offer. I think people will have to spend money on something to get it, don't delude yourself believing it will be handed to you just as you log in.
Many people posting here is jumping at and pointing the word "FREE", but completely skipping things like "limited-time offer" and "upcoming promotion.
I see more disappointment coming from this.
It is great ANet adds optional upgrades to buy in the store, if they are wrong with the price, the market will tell them, there's absolutely no need for a boycott.
I will not buy it because I think it is overpriced, and I personally don't know anyone who will do.
I will buy a char slot instead, just to give my support.
I just hope that ANet's economic staff made good calculation on the expected revenue.
For the poll, we see that 25% of the voters are willing to pay the price, with the clause "if I need it". We can't know how many will actually BUY the panes because they already need them.
Also keep in mind that this 25% isn't representative like the 25% of GW's population, but just of the more active and passionate game fans (which usually are more willing to spend their money on each single upgrade than the average Joe who plays the game).
Anet needs money? Fine. I will come back to the game and am going to buy another character slot this summer, even if I don't need it, since I will have more time to play.
The storage tabs for 10$?
I would find them useful, but the price tag is too high.
When (IF) they consider lowering it, I might be tempted to buy all 4 purchasable additional tabs. At the current proposed price not even a single one.
Also, the FREE pane will be tied to a special offer, read carefully, tied to a special offer. I think people will have to spend money on something to get it, don't delude yourself believing it will be handed to you just as you log in.
Many people posting here is jumping at and pointing the word "FREE", but completely skipping things like "limited-time offer" and "upcoming promotion.
I see more disappointment coming from this.
It is great ANet adds optional upgrades to buy in the store, if they are wrong with the price, the market will tell them, there's absolutely no need for a boycott.
I will not buy it because I think it is overpriced, and I personally don't know anyone who will do.
I will buy a char slot instead, just to give my support.
I just hope that ANet's economic staff made good calculation on the expected revenue.
For the poll, we see that 25% of the voters are willing to pay the price, with the clause "if I need it". We can't know how many will actually BUY the panes because they already need them.
Also keep in mind that this 25% isn't representative like the 25% of GW's population, but just of the more active and passionate game fans (which usually are more willing to spend their money on each single upgrade than the average Joe who plays the game).
Mr.Kotte
So, you can get 20 new storage slots for $9.99, or how about a whole new account which provides 200 slots and costs $10. Hmm....
English Warrior
/Signed. I feel let down that players are being charged for the the storage update. Therefore I am boycotting the buying of the extra storage.
-IGN: English Warrior X
-IGN: English Warrior X
Earth
I don't give a shit.
It's all optional, whether you buy character slots or storage slots, ANet won't care. It's still their $10. I don't see why people are throwing such tantrums over something so little and insignificant.
It's not like you're ENTITLED to more storage, or FORCED to buy more storage. Stop crying.
It's all optional, whether you buy character slots or storage slots, ANet won't care. It's still their $10. I don't see why people are throwing such tantrums over something so little and insignificant.
It's not like you're ENTITLED to more storage, or FORCED to buy more storage. Stop crying.
English Warrior
KamikazeChicken
Why would anybody pay $10 for an extra tab? I would hope people would just buy another character that offers considerably more space for the same cost.
Fril Estelin
BrettM
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This isn't about not being able to afford it, or not wanting it. It's about a personal sense of worth. We all have $10 and can afford to pay for a storage tab, but is paying more than DOUBLE the price of what alternative storage slots are worth in the form of new characters really worth the convenience?
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Fril Estelin has already pointed out that the convenience costs ANet more than just a little disk space. There is another aspect to that as well. Xunlai Storage has to be available whenever any character on the account is in play. The 45 slots on a mule only need to take up RAM and bandwidth when the mule is in play, replacing the 45 slots on whichever character was in play before that. So buying another mule character creates a net additional load of about zero for the account, since it will only be in play when other characters are not. Buying a Xunlai pane will increase the server load for the account at all times.
tl:dr version: A Xunlai storage slot costs ANet more than the same number of slots on a character, so why is it unreasonable that they should charge more for them on a per-slot basis?
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Drauss
/not signed
Arenanet is a business like every other business. They aren't charging you a monthly fee and any purchase is optional. They aren't in business to be your friend, they are in business to make money.
I will be buying multiple tabs for my account. I support Arenanet because I want the updates to continue and understand that development costs money and this is a way to raise capital for replacing machines and bandwidth. It ensures the standard of content is kept at a high quality.
You all want to play and none of you want to pay... Shame on you all... The person that pays the least complains the loudest I guess.
Arenanet is a business like every other business. They aren't charging you a monthly fee and any purchase is optional. They aren't in business to be your friend, they are in business to make money.
I will be buying multiple tabs for my account. I support Arenanet because I want the updates to continue and understand that development costs money and this is a way to raise capital for replacing machines and bandwidth. It ensures the standard of content is kept at a high quality.
You all want to play and none of you want to pay... Shame on you all... The person that pays the least complains the loudest I guess.
Holly Herro
/halfsigned
There's the option to buy it, but I think 10 is a bit much.
There's the option to buy it, but I think 10 is a bit much.
Shayne Hawke
You know, all this talk about 45 slots vs. 20, the number of slots a character can hold is going to increase a little after this update too, right?
Last I checked, the new armor/weapon bag that we get to use was going to have five to twenty extra slots for holding things. Assuming we don't have to hold customized items from that character, that boosts the number of slots on a character to 45 unspecific spaces + 20 weapons or armor pieces, and also a weapon and offhand in the carrying slots that everyone is leaving out.
The total of slots that a character can have post update will be more like 67 than 45.
Last I checked, the new armor/weapon bag that we get to use was going to have five to twenty extra slots for holding things. Assuming we don't have to hold customized items from that character, that boosts the number of slots on a character to 45 unspecific spaces + 20 weapons or armor pieces, and also a weapon and offhand in the carrying slots that everyone is leaving out.
The total of slots that a character can have post update will be more like 67 than 45.
Empress Amarox
"Convenience" is a stupid excuse already. That's like.. You can go to x and buy y for $n, or you can stay home, pay double, and only get one third of y instead."
Snograt
I'm one of the minority voting for "I'd pay $5 or $10 - I don't care which".
Extra storage has been #1 on the frequently wished list since inception. Time after time there have been people saying "I'd happily pay for extra storage" - well, here you go. Ante up, ingrates
Extra storage has been #1 on the frequently wished list since inception. Time after time there have been people saying "I'd happily pay for extra storage" - well, here you go. Ante up, ingrates
therangereminem
/signed
put it this way for 10 bucks youcan geta extra toon slot which holds more then double what a tab does it doesnt make sence, yes i dont mind paying for it but 10 bucks for 20 slots is way to much buying a extra toon slot would be way better . they should make tabs hold 50 items for the extra tabs and the ones we get free should be 20 spaces. i would then pay 10 bucks per tab.
if they only have 10 spaces 5 dollars would be fine by me
and one more thing there giving toons a extra bag so its not 45 for a toon it will be 65
put it this way for 10 bucks youcan geta extra toon slot which holds more then double what a tab does it doesnt make sence, yes i dont mind paying for it but 10 bucks for 20 slots is way to much buying a extra toon slot would be way better . they should make tabs hold 50 items for the extra tabs and the ones we get free should be 20 spaces. i would then pay 10 bucks per tab.
if they only have 10 spaces 5 dollars would be fine by me
and one more thing there giving toons a extra bag so its not 45 for a toon it will be 65
Lonesamurai
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Extra storage has been #1 on the frequently wished list since inception. Time after time there have been people saying "I'd happily pay for extra storage" - well, here you go. Ante up, ingrates |
we ASKED for this and when we finally get it? you bitch and moan?
typical Guild Wars community
Empress Amarox
You know, I was thinking... Maybe they're just going to see how much money they can get from their ignorantly loyal fans - you know, the ones that will purchase the storage panes regardless of the price being ridiculous. Then, after they can't sell anymore, then they'll lower the cost and of course not refund the ignorantly loyal fans.
That way, they take into consideration that some people will be loyal to a level of stupidity that defies all reason, and maximize profits off of them before coming down to reality and putting the price at a reasonable level.
But, before they lower the price, they'll probably have that promotion where you buy something and you get one tab "FREE;" of course, I don't know the amount of stuff they'd want us to buy.. If they had it set at one tab, perhaps they'd get the crowd that wanted $5 tabs. But, if they were going to lower the price to $5 anyway, then that doesn't make sense, so maybe it's 2 purchases instead. Or maybe, maybe they aren't going to lower the price at all, and just want to milk the second group of people that aren't ignorantly loyal but are willing to pay $5 for a storage pane rather than $10. That way, with their "promotion" they get $10 from them too.
Hm.. I'll have to work on that "evil bloodsucking vampire" approach. Looking rather promising so far though...
*shrug* By all means though, be ignorantly loyal and give them your money. I'll continue to ponder on what their scheme is...
That way, they take into consideration that some people will be loyal to a level of stupidity that defies all reason, and maximize profits off of them before coming down to reality and putting the price at a reasonable level.
But, before they lower the price, they'll probably have that promotion where you buy something and you get one tab "FREE;" of course, I don't know the amount of stuff they'd want us to buy.. If they had it set at one tab, perhaps they'd get the crowd that wanted $5 tabs. But, if they were going to lower the price to $5 anyway, then that doesn't make sense, so maybe it's 2 purchases instead. Or maybe, maybe they aren't going to lower the price at all, and just want to milk the second group of people that aren't ignorantly loyal but are willing to pay $5 for a storage pane rather than $10. That way, with their "promotion" they get $10 from them too.
Hm.. I'll have to work on that "evil bloodsucking vampire" approach. Looking rather promising so far though...
*shrug* By all means though, be ignorantly loyal and give them your money. I'll continue to ponder on what their scheme is...
Fril Estelin
Xanatas
/signed
1.) Because of "Hell no!". The box sais "Online Gaming with no fees" thats the game i bought, this may actualy be illegal here in Holland.
2.) In Holland, we dont use Creditcards like happens in the US. Only a small portion of users here can make use of the on-line shop.
So, they basicaly charging for something we can not buy.
Pulling the trigger of a gun while pointing it at your feet isnt smart.
1.) Because of "Hell no!". The box sais "Online Gaming with no fees" thats the game i bought, this may actualy be illegal here in Holland.
2.) In Holland, we dont use Creditcards like happens in the US. Only a small portion of users here can make use of the on-line shop.
So, they basicaly charging for something we can not buy.
Pulling the trigger of a gun while pointing it at your feet isnt smart.
Rocky Raccoon
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More food for thought for those who think the price is fine:
Think how much have you already spent on GW, and how much bang for your buck have you got. How are the new $10 panes looking now??? If you fail to see a problem here, you may have serious trouble irl - thousands of absolutely horrible deals are everywheree. Being ablle to quickly spot and avoid them helps alot. |
Tell me where the problem is?
EDIT: Cable TV $3.00 a day
DSL $1.25 a day
Phone $2.00 a day
glacialphoenix
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1.) Because of "Hell no!". The box sais "Online Gaming with no fees" thats the game i bought, this may actualy be illegal here in Holland. |
Waldir
/Not Signed, they gotta get paid somehow
Riot Narita
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*shrug* By all means though, be ignorantly loyal and give them your money. I'll continue to ponder on what their scheme is...
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I'll buy storage. I've always been willing to pay for it, and now it's here: I certainly will.
I could buy character slots instead but I won't. Because I want the luxury and convenience of stuff on hand, without changing characters. And I'm prepared to pay for that luxury and convenience. I don't care if it's the highest number of slots per dollar or not.
Boycott? To shave a dollar or two off the price? Pfft, no way. Just gimme the storage already.
/NOT SIGNED
Shuuda
Shouldn't the last option in this poll be: "I couldn't care less..."
/pollfail?
/pollfail?
englitdaudelin
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I've got 10 chars
Each char will get eq box which consists of 5-20 slots I'll also get one storage tab for free In summary, i'll get 10*20+20 = 220 slots. For free. QQ moar ? |
/notsigned. I'm with this post. I'll be watching the website for how to get the free storage pane during the "promotion." I'm betting a multi-campaign xunlai quest.
And the equipment bags alone, for each character, will dramatically alter the storage situation. Just getting weps and armors out of storage and off of mules improves my ability to store things and to play the games.
On a side note...I still need a library for all these damn handbooks and tomes.
cthulhu reborn
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/signed
1.) Because of "Hell no!". The box sais "Online Gaming with no fees" thats the game i bought, this may actualy be illegal here in Holland. 2.) In Holland, we dont use Creditcards like happens in the US. Only a small portion of users here can make use of the on-line shop. So, they basicaly charging for something we can not buy. Pulling the trigger of a gun while pointing it at your feet isnt smart. |
It costs Anet money anyway to store all our stuff on their servers and maintain it so it's only fair that we pay extra for something that is an addition that is not needed to play the game.
Just to rectify the person who I quoted:
In the Netherlands it is not harder to get a credit card as long as you're over 18. I got one for free with my student account, just to give you an example.
The idea that charging people for storage would be illegal is also completely absurd. The game has no monthly fees and still doesn't.
If you are upset about it cause you want everything for free, well, that's fair enough but please don't try to reinforce it with incorrect statements.
thelessa
/not signed
I love NOT having to search mules for that I know is somewhere on one of them, if can get to faster/easier, I am willing to pay for it.
Doesn't mean I have to buy all the tabs either, just what is needed.
Also means that I will get my slots back to make another char. or use the one already made.
I love NOT having to search mules for that I know is somewhere on one of them, if can get to faster/easier, I am willing to pay for it.
Doesn't mean I have to buy all the tabs either, just what is needed.
Also means that I will get my slots back to make another char. or use the one already made.
Catchphrase
Free additional storage panes (exc. the free inventory bags and pane) costs additional sums of money and resources for them to maintain. Although I am very stingy with my cash and not planning to purchase it, I still see this as a fair trade.
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Helene Rosco
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Extra storage has been #1 on the frequently wished list since inception. Time after time there have been people saying "I'd happily pay for extra storage" - well, here you go. Ante up, ingrates |
I'm happy they're giving us an extra slot for an equipment pack, even if I have to spend my "hard earned" in-game gold to actually buy the pack. I can't imagine it's going to cost 100k + 50 ectos. If the equipment pack has 20 slots I can clear up an entire pane in my bank just putting my main's armor and weapons in her equipment pack. The character's who don't have masses of crap to haul around can hold the weaps that I haven't decided what to do with yet. Now I'll have lots of room in the bank to hold all my holiday booze/sweet collectibles. So consider me satisfied with the storage update. :P
Ctb
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Free additional storage panes (exc. the free inventory bags and pane) costs additional sums of money and resources for them to maintain. |
If ANET thinks that's the best price point, though, more power to 'em.