May Skill Balances

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aapo
Wilds Pathfinder
#101
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Originally Posted by DreamWind View Post
Hmm...gee I wonder why. (Hint: It isn't the players' fault).
- That only 10% of people are interested in Guild Wars PvP? There are only players in international district in HA and of those it's 1-3 districts that are full. I had to wait for 20 minutes to get opponent in Halls. I also tried some AB, but after 10 minutes of fighting No Opposing Party I decided "screw that" and went to play better PvP games.

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Originally Posted by DreamWind View Post
Correct sir. The reason Guild Wars failed as a competitive game (its main purpose I might add) is because Anet pulls stupid crap like this. Everything else is more important, then when the balance is finally released the game is still a big mess. The only difference is PvP players care about this stuff and PvE players mostly don't.
- If you were ANET, what would you offer to PvP community so that you could get their cash? Company is out there to make some money. Think about it.
Apollo Smile
Apollo Smile
Wilds Pathfinder
#102
This thread has gotten turned into another stupid PVP vs PVE debate. Take that shit elsewhere. This is to discuss the upcoming skill update.
Sweet Mystery
Sweet Mystery
Lion's Arch Merchant
#103
Meh I wait for the day when Anet ban people for flaming them when they announce something. Anet do their job and get unwarrented grief from people.

Those sorts of people should just go play WoW or something. An update is coming, be glad for it, or they may just stop doing them thinking "why should we?"
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NARCHY
Academy Page
#104
there is no war pve, pvp, pvpers are right, these is no possible debate

But pleaze, discuss about the "upcomming" skill update.
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Selket
Desert Nomad
#105
Because PvP and PvE have nothing to do with how skills are balanced right
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Red Sonya
Desert Nomad
#106
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"Guildwars is based around PvP"
LMFAO hahahahah that MIGHT and I say might have been PART of the reason for releasing GW in the beginning, but, it is hardly the main reason and just isn't so anymore. It's easy to see that when you see all the PVE updates. Storage, Missions, Bonus equipment content for pre ordering, Cosmetic paks, Bonus Mission Pak, consumables, Title Grind Wars, and the list continues. PVP was only a dream side effort of the development, but, they long knew BEFORE GW ever hit the sales bins that PVE would drive this game and keep this game alive. PVP would never keep this game on the servers alone. The only reason GW is still above water is because of the candyland they have made it for 12 year olds and UNDER. Easy to obtain just about everything now. Low leveling. No monthly fee (its biggest selling point). Their drive and goal now for PVP you ask? Just like the PVE game to make it a CANDYLAND place where all the 12 year olds and UNDER can compete without being overly blown out of the water by skilled players anymore. That's what you're seeing in the PVP ladders now, that's what the balance updates will be for now and in the future as well. To bring more and more noobs and 12 year olds and UNDER into the PVP world.
TideSwayer
TideSwayer
Wilds Pathfinder
#107
Thanks for the words describing exactly what we can expect from this month's skill balance, ie. major skill balance / minor skill balance, PvP-focused, PvE-focused, etc...


....... Oh wait. Regina didn't say one thing of the freakin' sort. Goddamnit. Pretty (rolleyes) thing to do, as this particular set of balances is potentially VERY important depending on what ANet plans to do here. PvE could change drastically if SF, RoJ scatter, Save Yourselves, Rit buffs, etc.. are included as part of this month's balance. Pretty much ALL of the current major farming runs/spots are at risk of being nerfed (and most likely will be, sooner or later). I'm sure all the PvE players would love to know if SF is on its (immediate) way out and they should get their fill ASAP or not. PvP could be in line for a major shakeup or it could see 1 or 2 skills changed and ANet could say, "carry on with your day". Which is it? If you don't want to spill the beans specifically, well, are we to expect a major set of balances or minor, overall?
Apollo Smile
Apollo Smile
Wilds Pathfinder
#108
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Originally Posted by Sweet Mystery View Post
Meh I wait for the day when Anet ban people for flaming them when they announce something. Anet do their job and get unwarrented grief from people.

Those sorts of people should just go play WoW or something. An update is coming, be glad for it, or they may just stop doing them thinking "why should we?"
The WoW forums are just as bad at bitching whenever an update is announced!
cataphract
cataphract
Forge Runner
#109
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Originally Posted by I Ithorian I View Post
We were actually having a chat in alliance the other day about anets current stance on PvP ...
You mean other than anet giving PvP quests insanely high rewards and an exploit that allows you to do them over and over and over?
Mr. G
Mr. G
Desert Nomad
#110
Let's be fair, this skill balance wasnt ever going to not be about PvE vs PvP.

With the recent PvE update pushing back the PvP one, the PvP'ers are looking for some "compensation". I just don't see why, sure it must suck to get the update pushed back, but it's not like they disabled al forms of PvP untill it is.

I'm sure PvE'rs would like it if they stopped balancing skills and worked on balancing PvE.

At this point its easier to let Anet do their job and go with the flow. I think of updates like weekend events, if it doesnt interest/affect me just wait for the next one.
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Xanthe Dashka
Frost Gate Guardian
#111
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Originally Posted by Foe View Post
wow calm down, this update is going to be huge. Here's a link of some devs discussing their future plans for gws and what to expect from future updates.

newguildwars
So it's true!

They realised that milking GW is only possible by adding a hairdresser for our barbie players and a menagerie for our pokemonfans.

FAIL!


BALANCE UPDATE PLEASE!
Tullzinski
Tullzinski
Jungle Guide
#112
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Originally Posted by Apollo Smile View Post
The WoW forums are just as bad at bitching whenever an update is announced!

Must have been a royal bitchfest with the last update.
Nereyda Shoaal
Nereyda Shoaal
Frost Gate Guardian
#113
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Originally Posted by NARCHY View Post
What you dont understand is that this update is vital for a good pvp. What are you interested in ? DoA ? right, imagine they close DoA during 2 months, u cant access it unless u got lucky but it only happens 1 time per week. Then you will understand pvpers. Got it? They need this update TO BE ABLE TO PLAY the game they like.

So plz, dont call us idiots, u look even more pathetic than the whinners.
VITAL?!
Eating and sleeping are vital not your update
Update is not here? TOUGH. Come back next week
Unless you are sad little person without any responsibilities in RL
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The Little Viking
Krytan Explorer
#114
I couldnt care less about the skill balance. If it never happened i wouldnt cry. Thanks for the info on the other stuff.
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Xanthe Dashka
Frost Gate Guardian
#115
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Originally Posted by The Little Viking View Post
I couldnt care less about the skill balance. If it never happened i wouldnt cry. Thanks for the info on the other stuff.
100% Pure PvE player who likes killing mobs that have almost no AI.

Be happy, some über PvE-only skills are about to get buffed!
ousbique
ousbique
Academy Page
#116
May i ask a question Miss Buenaobra ?
Why do you let the competitive side of this game dying ?

Please, answer me, i'm really looking for the interest of this strategy.
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fowlero
Jungle Guide
#117
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Originally Posted by cataphract View Post
You mean other than anet giving PvP quests insanely high rewards and an exploit that allows you to do them over and over and over?
You do realise nearly all pvp players don't actually play pvp for the rewards? If anything asides from actually enjoying the game it's too get better rank and possibly some still care about the titles.

We play for the enjoyment of playing, and at the moment (and for a fairly long while) the game has not been fun due to the retarded meta which has barely been attended to at all. The reason people are so negative about the balance is because previous experience tells the pvp community that it's unlikely to fix anything.

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Originally Posted by Nereida Shoal
VITAL?!
Eating and sleeping are vital not your update
Update is not here? TOUGH. Come back next week
Unless you are sad little person without any responsibilities in RL
You've taken his words completely out of context. He said the balance is vital for good pvp again, which is true. Putting it relative to eating/sleeping is retarded.

The come back next week remark, the more and more they do this the less and less people will come back next week. Which for any business is a bad idea.
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The Little Viking
Krytan Explorer
#118
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Originally Posted by Xanthe Dashka View Post
100% Pure PvE player who likes killing mobs that have almost no AI.

Be happy, some über PvE-only skills are about to get buffed!
Yes I do like PvE sometimes along with the REST that is offered in this game. As for PvE only skills, I could care less about those either.. I never use them. No challenge with them on a skills bar. As for "skill Balance" why not learn to use what is offered and not cry because its not how YOU think it should be?
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belladonna shylock
Wilds Pathfinder
#119
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Originally Posted by The Little Viking View Post
Yes I do like PvE sometimes along with the REST that is offered in this game. As for PvE only skills, I could care less about those either.. I never use them. No challenge with them on a skills bar. As for "skill Balance" why not learn to use what is offered and not cry because its not how YOU think it should be?
Because that would require adaptation. A skill change lowers the bar for those who can't adapt. It puts everyone on the same level of skill for a few...minutes. So, those who can't adapt should be crying for Anet to change skills, asap!
Orange Milk
Orange Milk
Desert Nomad
#120
I would LOVE to say that I feel the reason for the delay is that, given the recent bugs and update failures(Name change customized weapons/armor failure), they are still testing the updated overpowered skills to make sure there are no bugs.

However, I am rather certain that the reason for the delay is the simple fact that someone missplaced the darts that they use to select random skills to buff and they have yet to find them or purchase new ones.

I expect a HUGE update full of "WTF?!?! were they thinking" skill buffs that they will not balance for 6 months at least, if ever.