Update - Thursday, May 14

The Scorpion Knight

The Scorpion Knight

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

Damn, they just raped Warriors Endurance for PvP.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

so umm yeah... back to d2 us west ladder...

wetwillyhip

wetwillyhip

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

USA, Southern California, Orange County

Tyrian Elements [TyE]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apollo Smile View Post
Bookmarking this thread before I head out. No doubt there will be some hilarious QQ to read when I get back.
i love it apollo!! hahaha good stuff, maybe i should too.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Scorpion Knight View Post
Damn, they just raped Warriors Endurance for PvP.
aegis got it without the lube, or a reach around...

Lyphen

Lyphen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Hey Linsey Murdock. See you reading this - just want you to know, I'm incredibly dissapointed, and can't believe this was what we get after waiting an extra month.

It's really, really sad that I was excited to see what would come from this. My poor ritualist.


Thanks for nothing, guys.

Sifow Chan

Sifow Chan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

P/

Once again no Paragon updates. Can't believe we've been waiting for this crap update. Anet, get your act together. Yea gw2 is important but dont you think keeping us around until it comes out is more important. Stop ignoring Paras and Rits.

Bug John

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

WTB more spike crap and hexway crap

oh, and were are the bloodspam nerf and the wells buff ?

crappy update, once again


PS : seems like heart of shadow is bugged... rofl

Copenhagen Master

Copenhagen Master

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

El Centro CA

Lazy Imperius Legionis (LaZy)

W/P

LOL this game is getting too boring anyways updates they put on now aren't even worth the wait anymore

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yichi View Post
so umm yeah... back to d2 us west ladder...
Should wait until 1.13 comes out. Probably be better than this farce we get here.

Inichigo osani

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Yep, another letdown, 3 months for this? Again a thoughtless update, not many improvements. How has this game survived so long with these "genius's" at the helm? Anet is probably sitting around flipping paper footballs at each other now, laughing there asses off,high-fiving, etc, etc, etc....

belladonna shylock

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Me/

I liked the fact that some big skills got toned down and there weren't really any buffs. Too often skills get buffed. It was nice to see a change.

Enix

Enix

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

I am in a transitional period.

GRE

wow... just wow... this is pretty disapointing.

Elemental Lord is still sucky for PvE considering the recharge. Nice try, but recharge needs to be 10 seconds to make it better than Aura or to cover attunements.

That PnH nurf should have been only for PvP - now it is unusable in hex heavy PvE areas.

The rest of this update seems rediculously scatterbrained. Making IW 5 energy doesnt change the fact that it sucks... come on.

fail

Seef II

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

Lingering Curse insubstantially nerfed, bandaid fixes to kappa mesmers, at least WE is going to go away. And the buffed PvE skills, apart from elemental lord, still suck. Meh.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

ok so yeah Heart of Shadow still broke. nice fix there...

edit: nvm. guildie reporting its fixed.

I Is Special

I Is Special

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

NJ

To Gain Extra Mobility We Play [NUDE]

W/

OMG NEW BUILD

I KNEW THEY FORGOT TO PUT SOME SKILLS IN THE UPDATE.

/falsehope

englitdaudelin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

East Coast

Soldier's Union [SU]

N/Me

interesting. Will the smack to Aegis and PnH, and to the necro skills, make paragons--or at least some of their skills--at all useful again?

The alterations to ranger skills are...dunno. Hunter's shot and Melandru's get a nice look, but I'm not sure the change is that warranted...

This update, however, rather strongly suggests that ANet is content with the ShadowForm and Cryway button mashing PvE play.

Aaaaaand my rit remains ill-considered. One NERF?

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

there's the HoS fix.

Professor K

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

Mo/A

Round 2...

FIGHT!

Bof

Bof

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2009

SOHK

D/

Damn they forgot to put the cherry on top of the mountain of wrong skill nerfs with the change:

Ursan- Went back to how it was when EOTN came out.

Back then

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2009

I actually like some of these changes. The SOH pve buff is pretty good, I will be running with this on my monk now.

Chieftain Heavyhand

Chieftain Heavyhand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

wpg

Linsey

Thanks for the work you guys are putting into the game, take the words form the qq crew with a grain of salt.

You can't please all the people all the time, and on Guru you have even less of a chance.

laurana half elf

laurana half elf

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Houston Tx

iQuit [thegame]

Mo/W

What thered engine gored engine gored engine gored engine go did they do to aegis????

Are you serious??

Roar roar roar
angry angry

GMJStrongbad

GMJStrongbad

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

In the United States

R/Mo

Assassin
Heart of Shadow: okay
Shadow Fang: much needed
Viper's Defense: okay

Elementalist
Mirror of Ice: No more Kappas : /
Steam: meh

Mesmer
Illusionary Weaponry: lol wtf? decreasing the energy cost doesnt change the fact that this skill still sucks

Monk
Castigation Signet: meh, pointless imo
Peace and Harmony: was a needed nerf, but probably still useable
Word of Healing: uh oh, people actually have to use this skill the way it was supposed to be used, rewards those who have been using it below 50% for the most part

Necromancer
Foul Feast: good nerf, needed badly
Lingering Curse: not sure on this one, the biggest issue was the AoE of it, it'll probably still see use

Ranger
Hunter's Shot: complete garbage now
Melandru's Shot: meh, okay nerf
Keen Arrow: not sure how to call this one, if the conditional was THAT gamebreaking, could still see some use, could not, who knows

Ritualist
Protective Was Kaolai:...as if this skill wasn't nerfed enough, what was the point of nerfing it again?


PvP
Monk
Strength of Honor: bye bye smiters
Aegis: rofl, this is a joke right?

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Nine weeks for this? ANet, I am disappoint.

Lagg

Lagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

I'm not advocating OpenGuildWars — still, leaving us guessing till the actual moment of release should become a thing of the past. Especially when it comes to game mechanics that are in obvious need of a fix (plenty have been mentioned in this thread).

An organised dialogue needs to come into existence between the community and the developers balancing the game.



But not all the time.

In the end, the skill updates I like the most happen when ArenaNet dares to be creative. The recent change to Hundred Blades is an excellent example of that.

Finding the golden mean is the hardest part.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Wow they really nerfed the chit out of STEAM also. That stacked with glyph of Immolation has been my bread and butter for a longggggggg time now. Now it's worthless as a damage spell. I sent many a warrior and sin and ranger to their grave with that combo. Guess they cried so much wah wah wha QQ QQ QQ Anet finally nerfed it.

And now why would anyone use Mirror of Ice when Echoed SHATTERSTONE will do 500x more damage in an inkling of the time?? At a solid 60 seconds it was a viable ELITE, but, now? lol I'll use Shatterstone with echo instead. Stomp me some rangers and sins and warriors I will. Oh I hear yah but I'll have resolve skill don't worry interupters! lol

Danax

Danax

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Ontario

R/Mo

AS IF we needed more nerfs to limit the way we play the game, btw can you atleast like, idk, nerf a paragon skill to make this update seem like a classic?

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chieftain Heavyhand View Post
Thanks for the work you guys are putting into the game, take the words form the qq crew with a grain of salt.

You can't please all the people all the time, and on Guru you have even less of a chance.
What work? I don't see anything on the list I couldn't have drunkely blurted out after knocking back a few dozen shots of vodka. It's barebones and doesn't really solve any big problems, just likely to cause a few.

turbo234

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

WI

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chieftain Heavyhand View Post
Linsey

Thanks for the work you guys are putting into the game, take the words form the qq crew with a grain of salt.

You can't please all the people all the time, and on Guru you have even less of a chance.
You don't think it's odd that even people who don't comment on skill updates are complaining? This is leaving many disappointed because of the time they had and what we recieved. It basically looks like they worked on the skills at the last minute because they were so caught up with their whole 4th year update.

Master Mxyzptlk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Obey My Command [sudo]

Me/

Aegis: the changes aside, it is now a completely different skill in PvE and PvP? thats annoying.

IW: What was the point? I mean, its nice, but what did you think that was going to accomplish? I'm really confused on that one. I wan't to legitimately know what the goal was with that one. Reminds me of Chaos Storm. Take a crappy skill, lower the energy cost, make it an easier to use crappy skill, that people only use for the cool animation.

Random Scrubinator

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Linsey

I know that a few PvE players don't really care about balance, and please ignore them

Anet still can redeem themselves by giving a non-profession skill that vanquishes an area of all monsters when used, just to give the PvP population a laugh

I mean no ill will to you, but I just wanted to style my post in a similar manner as the above poster's post

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

well months of complaining about spawning power got us a 5 second buff to summon spirits..

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Talk:Aegis_(PvP)

Stranger The Ranger

Stranger The Ranger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Those Netherlands

Dynasty Warriors [DW]

R/

No matter how bad the update may be, Monk nerfs always make me smile

tasha

tasha

Auctions Mod

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

Mystic Spiral [MYST]

I'm personally not too upset about the monk changes, it'll be nice to see the bar significantly change after such a long time running the same basic skills for months. Disappointed with ranger changes though - was it really that big of a deal?

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

Cool, another reason not to play my rit in PvE :/.

MY rit needs a buff. Spawning power is USELESS!

Looks like Cripshot and Shock Axe are meta again.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

The WoH nerf I actually agree with.
PnH as you will still see this ran with the nerf to aegis.
Vipers defense might actually buff the mo/a template, but prob not.
PwK needed a nerf, not sure that this will actually help maters much
FF needed what it got
Lingering curse's biggest problem is the aoe, moreso than the amount decreased in healing
Aegis got smiter's booned for PvP as did SoH
random ranger nerfs
IW still sucks
Fc water mesmers got the shaft...

overall 3/10 only because you buffed dishonorable and added a merchant to gtob

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

I'm hoping the merchant counted for at least 2.5 of those 3 points.

DeBron

DeBron

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

MD

Good thing pets got a buff! I actually have a reason to visit the otherwise useless menagerie now.

Lexar

Lexar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Organised Spam

W/

Honestly I don't care about the skills in this update. I'm mostly surprised nothing was done about RoJ.