XTH Points

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

I've also been experiencing high amounts of lag and massive lag spikes, but I didn't take into consideration that it could be due to the Xunlai issue. In which case, this is even more of a reason to get this issue resolved. I really hope they do better with the points next time.

johnny tutone

johnny tutone

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

california

Remnant Of Juggernauts[ROJ

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Little Viking View Post
7 accounts. only 1 got points so far.
So I sent a support e-mail with the account names of the rest. I couldnt very well send the access keys to the others. Why you ask? Because for the life of me I dont know what keys go with which accounts. Plus I have 1 Factions and 2 EOTN boxes here with access keys that were given to guild members as contest rewards. I have no clue as to which ones of these codes go to where. At the time of installing the codes to my games I had no idea I would need to KNOW WHICH GOES WHERE. I bet is safe to assume that there are others just like me, a lot of accounts and no idea which codes go with which account.
Im just hoping the account log in name will be enough info to go on, but i doubt it.
I do like the idea of just giving everyone that voted (and still have yet to receive their points) xx amount of points and call it a day and move on.
ive got the same problem four accounts and a drawer full of access codes lol.. they only asked for our basic account info in thier new "flawless" xth... soo that should be way more than enough

Empress Amarox

Empress Amarox

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2008

Above you.

Mo/W

3 of my accounts got reward points, two of those were wrong (if not all), the rest didn't get any. Sent a support ticket.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nymph of Meliai View Post
It seems to me that all of our Europeans players in the guild have not received any points. Some of the American players have got their's.
THIS may be the key - I got my rps only on my main account which is considered american by the game, but my other accounts which are all euro got nothing.

pinguinius

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post
THIS may be the key - I got my rps only on my main account which is considered american by the game, but my other accounts which are all euro got nothing.
No, my American account didn't get anything.

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

both my accts are american, both got zero

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

^^ All accounts in question for me and my friends are American, only 2 got points.

Hammer Drawn

Hammer Drawn

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

6 accounts - nothing. Ill give it a few more days before I join the ticketing community All American btw.

obsidian ectoplasm

obsidian ectoplasm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

4 accs

only 1 with RP

do we just wait some more time or send a ticket in?

Thamior Shamus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2009

Pshyco Ninjas [oGod]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post
THIS may be the key - I got my rps only on my main account which is considered american by the game, but my other accounts which are all euro got nothing.
the nationality of your acc isn't effecting who got there's. it's all just random.

2 accs, no RPs. ANet should really consider just giving people x amount of RPs then fix the XTH with out the GW community complaining each step of the way.

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

Guess what. It's tomorrow.

Guess what. Ain't shit happened.

Complete and utter failure.

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

3 accounts, all American, only one got 80 points. The other two didn't get any.

Diana Belevere

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

So...Has anyone actually received a non-robotic response from support yet?

esthetic

esthetic

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2008

Fantasy Island

[Qtie]

R/Mo

I remember back in the day when I would get flamed by the guru community and banned by the Mods for complaining about not getting my tourney reward pts when everyone else got theirs ^^.

Thamior Shamus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2009

Pshyco Ninjas [oGod]

R/

Has anyone recieved any points after contacting support?

Aerial Assault

Aerial Assault

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

IGN: Ingame Notoriety

IGN: Ingame Notoriety

What I've got so far:


Quote:
Response (GM Phields) 06/19/2009 09:07 PM
Hello,

As you are aware, the distribution of May Xunlai Tournament Points took place on June 18th. Unfortunately, a problem developed during the distribution. Many players received their points, but some players appear to have received the incorrect number of points, and others did not receive any points at all, even though they did make predictions.

The dev team is currently reviewing the situation in order to determine the best means to correct the problem. The team will be need a few days to settle on and implement a resolution. In the meantime, we greatly appreciate your patience as we address the issue.

Regards,
GM Phields
The Guild Wars Team

Nanood

Nanood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Supermans Crystal Palace

Legion Of The Dark Sun

Well i shall wait for a few days. I'm sure they will have a general announcement when things get back to working. Waited all this time another few days won't kill us.

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerial Assault View Post
What I've got so far:
i got the same responds back. >> and here i thought it was a special respond. lol now i know better. i to hope they get it fixed soon.

Misa

Misa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right next to the armor crafter.

Mo/

It's the weekend.... they probably won't fix it until next week :P

Show Some Skin

Show Some Skin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2009

Dead.

[Game]

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerial Assault View Post
What I've got so far:

Same thing i got. To be honest im so tired of this epic failness.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerial Assault View Post
What I've got so far:
Here is the thing I am wondering - if everyone is getting the generic response, do the ones of us that still haven't bugged them STILL need to bug them, because the fix will be applied just to the ones that bitched OR will this be a general fix and everyone, regardless of bitching, will receive the benefits?

Basically, if you just play the game - you can NOT know that something is wrong and what to do next. If it's going to be a fix based on who bitches - at least the loading screen should be updated urging the players to contact support regarding this issue.

lilDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Treehouse #1

W/

4 accounts, got 30 points on one.
Mixture of AM and EU.
Haven't logged with Support yet, waiting for a few days to pass.

They should stop TESTING stuff in LIVE and QA / TEST it properly beforehand. This has become really retarded.
If we continually screwed up like this in our company, we would have been RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed a long time ago with no clients left. Pretty much what has happened to GW , I guess.

Emunator

Emunator

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

DVDF

Mo/E

I love reading through all the comments in here.
Well i didnt bitch to A-Net i just told them nicely wich accounts didnt get there points.
And now i just wait because like a lot of people most of them are probably enyoing the weekend, while others of them are working there asses of for whatever reason.

I think this problem will be resolved after this weekend, so people give A-Net some room to breath.

Aljasha

Aljasha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

every month, the same problems occur to the xth. why did anet release a broken system in the first place?

Nemesis Xero

Nemesis Xero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

Belgium

tdwc

R/

I'm just going to wait a few days, support is probably already swamped with thousands and thousands of complaints so I'm just hoping they fix it for everyone without me having to bug them too.

Smurf Minions

Smurf Minions

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Somewhere you can't see

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemesis Xero View Post
I'm just going to wait a few days, support is probably already swamped with thousands and thousands of complaints so I'm just hoping they fix it for everyone without me having to bug them too.
complaints about free stuff lol, they should just close the XTH thing so people realize that they shouldn't have Q.Q'd bout it. Come on, there are a lot of other ways to get some money in-game...

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Emunator View Post
I love reading through all the comments in here.
Well i didnt bitch to A-Net i just told them nicely wich accounts didnt get there points.
And now i just wait because like a lot of people most of them are probably enyoing the weekend, while others of them are working there asses of for whatever reason.

I think this problem will be resolved after this weekend, so people give A-Net some room to breath.
Your optimisticism towards Anet shows that you're new to the game, the community, and the company. Welcome. Enjoy your stay while it last.

That, or you're just another BFB club member.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smurf Minions View Post
complaints about free stuff lol, they should just close the XTH thing so people realize that they shouldn't have Q.Q'd bout it. Come on, there are a lot of other ways to get some money in-game...
Go ahead. I dare them to do just that. This so-called "free stuff" is part of the game I PAID real money for. Besides, they created this whole thing in the first place to keep the game alive (CPR, if you want a medical term).

So if they want to admit their failure (would be the first time as they never admit to any of them in the past) and cancel the whole system, be my guest.

Smurf Minions

Smurf Minions

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Somewhere you can't see

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma View Post
Your optimisticism towards Anet shows that you're new to the game, the community, and the company. Welcome. Enjoy your stay while it last.

That, or you're just another BFB club member.



Go ahead. I dare them to do just that. This so-called "free stuff" is part of the game I PAID real money for. Besides, they created this whole thing in the first place to keep the game alive (CPR, if you want a medical term).

So if they want to admit their failure (would be the first time as they never admit to any of them in the past) and cancel the whole system, be my guest.
You didn't pay for any free updates they did (such as the XTH). Technically its not even an in-game feature. They could also have chosen for no-updates at all and then there was no XTH and no sorrow's furnace etc.

Dionysus22851

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnny tutone View Post
soo im sorry i feel that i am owed a service that i took the time to predict on
I feel that you have a lot of growing up to do kid. This isn't mommy and daddy where you just throw a little temper tantrum and get your way. This is how the real world works. There's problems, delays, and nothing is fair.

Let's say when you move out on your own; your lights go out for an hour. When you get your electric bill are you gonna throw a fit and demand a discount for that hour? You know what would happen? You'd get laughed at and disconnected...

Same goes for everyone who's pitching a fit over this. Chances are most of you are kids still living at home; the kind that sat down in the store and screamed for an hour when mommy wouldn't get you that candy bar.

You'll either change, or you'll be miserable the rest of your life.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smurf Minions View Post
You didn't pay for any free updates they did (such as the XTH). Technically its not even an in-game feature. They could also have chosen for no-updates at all and then there was no XTH and no sorrow's furnace etc.
Why do you think Anet made this feature available in the first place?

Kindness?

How naive.

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma View Post
Why do you think Anet made this feature available in the first place?

Kindness?

How naive.
I think that at least half the people that use two or more accounts in XTH have bought them JUST for the points.

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dionysus22851 View Post
I feel that you have a lot of growing up to do kid. This isn't mommy and daddy where you just throw a little temper tantrum and get your way. This is how the real world works. There's problems, delays, and nothing is fair.

Let's say when you move out on your own; your lights go out for an hour. When you get your electric bill are you gonna throw a fit and demand a discount for that hour? You know what would happen? You'd get laughed at and disconnected...

Same goes for everyone who's pitching a fit over this. Chances are most of you are kids still living at home; the kind that sat down in the store and screamed for an hour when mommy wouldn't get you that candy bar.

You'll either change, or you'll be miserable the rest of your life.
funny i had that happen to me but with cable. i called asked nicely and got discounted for time i did not recieve. same when it happend to our phones and power. so asking nicely does help in rl and game. ^^

PlasticBlue

PlasticBlue

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Middelburg

The Sneezing Dragons

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus View Post
I think that at least half the people that use two or more accounts in XTH have bought them JUST for the points.
and storage ^^



Quote:
Originally Posted by Aljasha View Post
every month, the same problems occur to the xth. why did anet release a broken system in the first place?
It is not the same problem, it's another problem.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra View Post
The back end for XTH is extremely complicated. It was a system built into a game that wasn't originally built to support it. Because of this, unpredictability in the code happens. On the outside it looks like the same issue, because people don't get points. On the back end, the bugs that happen are often not the same as previously seen. So, we do sincerely apologize for this, and we're discussing the issues extensively.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Smurf Minions View Post
You didn't pay for any free updates they did (such as the XTH). Technically its not even an in-game feature. They could also have chosen for no-updates at all and then there was no XTH and no sorrow's furnace etc.
Yes they could, but they didn't. They are also allowed to remove the content if they wish, without prior notification.

But why would they want to do that?
How would they attract new players, and keep the older players happy, without new content?
XTH may cause problems, but they are working on it, and it made them a lot of extra money so far, with everyone buying extra accounts.

Also, we did pay for free updates, because Anet decided to give them out "free" and if you buy the game now, the updates are part of it, they make up the games you have.
If they wanted money for them, they would have asked for it (see make-over, storage and name change) and it would be an "option".

I think we should give Anet some slack. They work their asses off for us and all they get in return is: "it's gone wrong again, will you ever be able to do it right?" instead of "nice update, thank you for all the work you put into it".

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by PlasticBlue View Post
It is not the same problem, it's another problem.
So she says.



Quote:
Originally Posted by PlasticBlue View Post
Yes they could, but they didn't. They are also allowed to remove the content if they wish, without prior notification.

But why would they want to do that?
How would they attract new players, and keep the older players happy, without new content?
XTH may cause problems, but they are working on it, and it made them a lot of extra money so far, with everyone buying extra accounts.

Also, we did pay for free updates, because Anet decided to give them out "free" and if you buy the game now, the updates are part of it, they make up the games you have.
If they wanted money for them, they would have asked for it (see make-over, storage and name change) and it would be an "option".

I think we should give Anet some slack. They work their asses off for us and all they get in return is: "it's gone wrong again, will you ever be able to do it right?" instead of "nice update, thank you for all the work you put into it".
You seem to understand that this is not a freebie being given out out of kindness. But you somehow went on and said that we should THANK them? What's next? Should we declare Anet day and build a statue/temple in Anet's name too?

I'm confused.

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

So is it optional, or do we absolutely have to send a support ticket in?

PlasticBlue

PlasticBlue

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Middelburg

The Sneezing Dragons

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma View Post
So she says.
And I don't see why she should be lying about it...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma View Post
What's next? Should we declare Anet day and build a statue/temple in Anet's name too?
No, not at all.
But how would you feel, if you did something for someone, free of charge, wouldn't you like to hear a "thank you" from time to time? Instead of the QQ's after every update.

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by PlasticBlue View Post
And I don't see why she should be lying about it...




No, not at all.
But how would you feel, if you did something for someone, free of charge, wouldn't you like to hear a "thank you" from time to time? Instead of the QQ's after every update.
They shouldn't have screwed around with that. They screw around too much, and the last upgrade was worse than Windows Vista.

nkuvu

nkuvu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by PlasticBlue View Post
And I don't see why she should be lying about it...
It wouldn't be the first time that a Community Relations Manager was misinformed about an issue. I'm not claiming that this is or is not the case here, just saying it's not outside the realm of reasonable explanations.
Quote:
But how would you feel, if you did something for someone, free of charge, wouldn't you like to hear a "thank you" from time to time? Instead of the QQ's after every update.
I really like the new interface. But the revision seemed to introduce a significant number of bugs (i.e., a whole lot more people not getting their points than usual). The introduction of the bugs far outweighs the interface, in my opinion. I did already indicate my appreciation for the new interface in another thread, should I add that to every single post I make on topic of the XTH?

PlasticBlue

PlasticBlue

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Middelburg

The Sneezing Dragons

E/

Again, no you don't have to add it in every post, that's not what I'm saying. And no you don't have to say it after every update or what not.
There is a difference between QQ'ing and giving your opinion/likes/dislikes on an update.

"I don't like what they did with (insert update), it would have been better if they (insert other options)"

or

"You messed up again with (insert update), Anet, you suck"

are 2 totally different things.

It's quite normal things go wrong with updates, but at least they try to find a solution. They could just leave it as it is and don't give a damn about what you think, you already paid them anyway.

pinguinius

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dionysus22851 View Post
Let's say when you move out on your own; your lights go out for an hour. When you get your electric bill are you gonna throw a fit and demand a discount for that hour? You know what would happen? You'd get laughed at and disconnected...

Same goes for everyone who's pitching a fit over this. Chances are most of you are kids still living at home; the kind that sat down in the store and screamed for an hour when mommy wouldn't get you that candy bar.
Electric bills are based on consumption, they are not a subscription based service. So if it goes out, you aren't paying anything because you aren't consuming. Also, I don't know where you live, evidently a place where there are no consumer rights laws, but in America ripping people off is kinda frowned upon. Many people (not myself, but still) purchased additional accounts specifically for this feature which is not working.