UW R/RT or RT/R solo build

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

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It seems to me that spirit spamming is going to become the norm for almost all farming, i started messing about with my ritualist and it's great fun but i have noticed more and more there seems to be a boom in ritualist's being made :P

So far though i have not really found any place that is not farmable with my rit? or a couple of spirit spammers...

Sir Cusfreak

Sir Cusfreak

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

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So far though i have not really found any place that is not farmable with my rit? or a couple of spirit spammers... yep. there's not any.

shhhhhhhhh.


no, I'm kidding, I'm sure there are some zones. What just comes to mind: I doubt you can solo-farm RoT, Slavers, or Vloxen with this, just because of mob size and heavy enemy rez, but I cant say for sure because I havent tried. (Havent bothered taking mine through the desolation or very far into eotn yet.) but just about everywhere else, as far as I know, is spiritfood.

Golgotha

Golgotha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

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It seems to me that spirit spamming is going to become the norm for almost all farming, i started messing about with my ritualist and it's great fun but i have noticed more and more there seems to be a boom in ritualist's being made :P

So far though i have not really found any place that is not farmable with my rit? or a couple of spirit spammers... Had trouble with areas with heavy assassins/warriors, especially ones with knockdown (Jotun in EotN) awhile ago. But then again I hadn't really tried any build variation to combat them. Haven't been using my ritualist much recently (working on other chars).

schmoky

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

is this way of farming still possible in uw ?

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

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is this way of farming still possible in uw ? Very possible,Spirit Spammers have an easy ride even with skelies,they normally die within 2 waves of attacks with painfull bond on them.

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

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this sure is a fun build. been away 4 afew months and a friend at thanksgiving told me to check this build out.

very easy to use and learn.

thanks to the OP and whoever put all the skills together. ya i know sprint spamming is not new =)

Fedetic

Fedetic

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2010

The Netherlands

FoE

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Sorry for bringing this topic up, but I have a question.

I don't have Nighfall so I can't get Vampirism.. (I only have factions & EOTN)

What skill should be able to replace it? Thnx in advance

Yuna Matsumarui

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2009

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Fedetic said:
Sorry for bringing this topic up, but I have a question.

I don't have Nighfall so I can't get Vampirism.. (I only have factions & EOTN)

What skill should be able to replace it? Thnx in advance don't want to disappoint you, but Vampirism is one of the key skills in the bar. with a sunspear rank of 7+ it is your strongest skill in your bar, it survives alot more than bloodsong etc. though if you'd really want to try without vampirism,

your best bet would probably be
Gaze of Fury (crap, nightfall skill)
uhm..

then I'd go with destruction, then, put your spirits up like this.
|------------------------------|
|_________enemy__________|
|____Bloodsong__( Vampirism )_|
|________Destruction_________|
|___________________________|
|___________________________|
|___________________________|
|____Signet of Spirits Pain______|
|________Shadowsong_________|
|-------------------------------|

then hope the don't go for the
destruction spirit, as its dmg decreases if it gets killed early (it gotta die for the damage to take place, but still try to delay that moment)

however, without vampirism you lose your self heal (don't overlook this, it can easily net you a +8-9 regen) and a attack that triggers painful bond less.

you could also go with
agony, but that spirit just sucks.

what you also could do is go with
binding chains

cast it on one of the foes (an Aatxe) so that one is snared (slowed down) by doing so, he stays back while the other aatxe will move at your spirits @ 100% speed, so all spirits will target him (because the other one isn't in your aggro yet) then your spirits kill 1 aatxe, after which the 2nd comes which your spirits can kill (even without vampirism)

Fedetic

Fedetic

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2010

The Netherlands

FoE

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Ok thnks! I'll try with destruction spirit and/or binding chains

(Really need to buy NF, maybe I'll buy it together with GotY)

ranger of the wind

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2010

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I wanna try this build (I've never really done much high end farming), but i don't have EotN, which means no Spiritleech Aura, is that a detrimental part to the build? Is there something that can replace it? thanks

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

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Spiritleech Aura helps you kill the smites, but you can kill them without it.

edit: Jan. 28 update buffed Reversal of Fortune to work against life steal. That's going to slow this build versus the Smites somewhat.

Claud

Claud

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Montreal

Zealots of the Ancient Order

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I was wondering what works the best for clearing all of UW. I know that I'll be using SoS, AoU, SLA, Bloodsong, Vamp and Shadowsong but I'm not sure what to use for the other 2 slots. I'm planning on doing this with my rit so what kinds of runes/insignias should I use so that Energy won't be a problem at all. The choices I was thinking for the 2 open slots were: BoC, Spirit Light, SS, Painful Bond and Pain.

Can anyone help me out?

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Try reading this thread!

Elder Raah

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

United Kingdom

SNOW

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I can't seem to kill the ataxxes in the chamber in NM! my spirits just die and i can't place new ones because of the recharge. I'm currently running E/Rt is this fine? got all the attributes in line with the pvx build etc just can't seem to kill them before spirits die Any tips? cheers.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Shadowsong should keep one blinded, and if it's at the back, the first should die before your spirits die. Have you checked your attributes are correct and are in NM? Also make sure you don't aggro more than one aatxe group at a time.

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

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I dropped Spirit Leach Aura, it's the only resto skill, by doing that I could use the points more effectivly in Communing/Channeling.

As Long as you maintain Armor of Unfelling the spirits are fine in NM.

With the freed up spot I added Disenchantment. Difficult on Energy (High energy set anyone?) so I don't use it everytime but VERY useful in killing the smites, they go down ALOT quicker because Divine Intervention and Sheild of Judgement get removed.

tbh, I have more fun doing this Duo, you can take more stuff like, like wonderlust, earthbind, agony and anguish. Anguish + Painful Bond is real nice like.

Droven

Droven

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

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I haven't tried it but replacing Spirit Leech Aura with Spirit Boon Strike seems reasonable now since the new update. I'm not sure if i should change Painful Bond with Lamentation though.

Yellow D. Flash

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

GW

does this still work for uw?

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Yes. SoS is a bit weaker, but it doesn't change the functionality of the farm at all.

Claud

Claud

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Montreal

Zealots of the Ancient Order

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I haven't tried it but replacing Spirit Leech Aura with Spirit Boon Strike seems reasonable now since the new update. I'm not sure if i should change Painful Bond with Lamentation though. I'd keep Spiritleech Aura over Spirit Boon Strike because it saves you energy and it allows ur spirits to do armor ignoring damage. As for Lamentation, I'd still keep Painful Bond over it as it will do more damage then Lamentation would.

FyrFytr998

FyrFytr998

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Connecticut USA

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Has anyone tried Smites recently? I went to the wastes and found it damn near impossible since they changed the functionality of some of their Protection spells to also counter life stealing.

Am I missing something other than running it duo with the Disenchantment spirit?

Mind you, this is just an FYI question, I already know the plains is the best bet for riches.

Another question, I run an UA hero which I keep off compass in case of a snafu. As long as it's off my compass it shouldn't affect my drops right?

Claud

Claud

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Montreal

Zealots of the Ancient Order

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Has anyone tried Smites recently? I went to the wastes and found it damn near impossible since they changed the functionality of some of their Protection spells to also counter life stealing.

Am I missing something other than running it duo with the Disenchantment spirit?

Mind you, this is just an FYI question, I already know the plains is the best bet for riches.

Another question, I run an UA hero which I keep off compass in case of a snafu. As long as it's off my compass it shouldn't affect my drops right? Smites are always a problem to kill with a spirit spammer as it can take a while to kill them. Disenchantment does help. Also, make sure ur not using shadowsong as they will heal each other with mend condition.

As for ur hero question, if hes off ur compass then no he won't affect ur drops, although he will most likely cause a problem for ur drops in the chamber since he can't be anywhere else which imo sucks because u can get 2 ectos from just the chamber if ur lucky.

FyrFytr998

FyrFytr998

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Connecticut USA

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As for ur hero question, if hes off ur compass then no he won't affect ur drops, although he will most likely cause a problem for ur drops in the chamber since he can't be anywhere else which imo sucks because u can get 2 ectos from just the chamber if ur lucky. Yeah, I figured as much, luckily I have been getting at least one ecto in the chamber. It's the plains I've been getting screwed on. Hopefully it'll pick up when I go through next time. Although it seems the new A/E plains build is the way to go currently, I still love the SoS build. I just wish Rt's could run around like multiple MM's and have the same build. So what if it's imba!!

Slausty

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Free 2 da U

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Has anyone tried Smites recently? I went to the wastes and found it damn near impossible since they changed the functionality of some of their Protection spells to also counter life stealing.

Am I missing something other than running it duo with the Disenchantment spirit?

Mind you, this is just an FYI question, I already know the plains is the best bet for riches.

Another question, I run an UA hero which I keep off compass in case of a snafu. As long as it's off my compass it shouldn't affect my drops right? Actually, they are really easy if you just spirit kite them. This also keeps your spirits hp up using lux/kurz summon spirit so that you only need to replace spirits when you have to not when you need to. Just keep a eye on the hp and run to another spot to kite. Only down side is if they targeted one smite that was almost dead they usually go to the next one so you are left with alot of low hp smites but otherwise it is pretty effective. Just takes a little more time.

Banane-O-Man

Banane-O-Man

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

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To get to planes do you fight your way there againts the obsidian behemoth or you have to run?

Wouldn't this be extremely good with a r/n toucher and a rt/r or r/rt spirit spammer?

spun ducky

spun ducky

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

WTB: q8 bows

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To get to planes do you fight your way there againts the obsidian behemoth or you have to run?

Wouldn't this be extremely good with a r/n toucher and a rt/r or r/rt spirit spammer? I have actually done some guild runs where we ran a SoS channeling spirit spammer, a new and improved rit lord communing damage spammer, and a greater conflagration touch ranger tank. If the communing rit takes a heal you can clear all areas decent fast with a lot of ecto drops. The quests and dhuum would prove impossible though and even if you get to him it would take forever to kill him.

Atro

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

Join Date: Sep 2009

Where don't I live?

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im currently atm trying to kill smites, but it doesnt seem to be working,

is it still possible to kill smites after the nerf?

thanks

shanaya

shanaya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Scouts of Tyria

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I've cleared the Ice Wastes a few times with my SoS Rit in the last few days. Its slow and I'm beginning to think not really worth the time taken, but dealing with the smites is not a problem. I set up my 6 spirits, pull the smites with a longbow (trying to pull no more than 3 at a time), hit Armor of Unfeeling & Spiritleech Aura then back off. Then I use Summon Spirits, AoU, SLA, back off, Summon Spirits and so on until half the spirits are gone. Then its time to make a new wall of spirits.

Slausty

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Free 2 da U

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im currently atm trying to kill smites, but it doesnt seem to be working,

is it still possible to kill smites after the nerf?

thanks Yes, look at my previous post. It's still possible (after SoS tiny change) its just a litte bit slower. Make sure your Channeling is high and always have AOU up at all times and use SLA whenever its available. Also, it makes it much easier if you set up your spirits first wait till they are half way recharged before you pull.

Atro

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

Join Date: Sep 2009

Where don't I live?

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ok thanks guys

i cleared most of wastes

Necromas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Love the build, been trying it out with my primary rit in all kinds of areas, there's just one problem I've run into.

Sometimes it will just be impossible to pull the enemies safely if they have the high ground advantage and a skill that will destroy you if they get a single hit off on you. Also, enemies with high ground can attack the spirits without getting close enough for the spirits to fight back.

I guess you could work in a defensive skill using restoration magic to make it easier to survive taking a hit when pulling.

The alternative is to just lay your spirits as close as you dare and hope the enemies wander into them, or if it's a mixed group of enemies wait until they wander around such that the enemies that are the bigger threat are in the back of the group and not close enough to hit you when you pull.

Slausty

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Free 2 da U

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Love the build, been trying it out with my primary rit in all kinds of areas, there's just one problem I've run into.

Sometimes it will just be impossible to pull the enemies safely if they have the high ground advantage and a skill that will destroy you if they get a single hit off on you. Also, enemies with high ground can attack the spirits without getting close enough for the spirits to fight back.

I guess you could work in a defensive skill using restoration magic to make it easier to survive taking a hit when pulling.

The alternative is to just lay your spirits as close as you dare and hope the enemies wander into them, or if it's a mixed group of enemies wait until they wander around such that the enemies that are the bigger threat are in the back of the group and not close enough to hit you when you pull. Yeah, but if you use this build(s) enough you know ways around. Bring a longbow and summon spirits. Pull with bow wait till they target your spirits then spirit kite them to you. If they don't have a path down then their is no reason to farm them anyways.....no drops. Also, when i solo i usually bring one healz and drop shadowsong (outside of UW ofcourse). Every now and then your spirits won't hit them cause they are out of range or a bug but you can always reset your spirit wall!

Marth Reynolds

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

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Nice build ^^

is quite easy for some parts, but am fah assasins laugh at spirits with their flashing blades >..>

anyway try it out in Zenn Daijun if you want plagueborn items, and bring Consume Corpse or that other similair skill to skip togo following you :]

system.fan

system.fan

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2008

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anyway try it out in Zenn Daijun if you want plagueborn items, and bring Consume Corpse or that other similair skill to skip togo following you :] the builds / area's that were shown before are possible with any class...
zen daijun only for Necro or Rit/N... not sure if it's rly good then.
but ill try this later....

CE Devilman

CE Devilman

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

hell

Do U Trust Anet

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if you were born in Factions you can just ask the guard if you must enter

caufenkamp

caufenkamp

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

The Angelic Legion

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ok so i have spirit spammer now but since the update im los at what skills we should use. can someone give me a list or something so i can be up to date?

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

For solo farming, there hasn't really been a change since the spirits were originally buffed. For general use, things such as Soul Twisting and Ritual Lord are viable.

Snorph

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Riverside,Ca

Kings Of Heaven And Earth

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I have problems killing any Ele npc, like Terrorwebs. Any tips killing them?

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

I found Terrorwebs generally a bit fiddly. Spread your spirits out. Try and get them to MS you and then run back past your spirits. That way they'll at least have a chance at surviving. Sometimes they'll kill all your spirits before any of them die, but spirit recharges are decent enough that you can recast before they heal up.

Snorph

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Riverside,Ca

Kings Of Heaven And Earth

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Ya i'll try that. Thanks...