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Originally Posted by Phelann View Post
Obviously timelines change, but this is needlessly maddening and frankly leaves a feeling of abandonment...but being completely ignored doesn't feel like we are being valued as the people that made the original game successful...Whats worse, its hard to believe that anyone at anet cares if I care.
I hate to kind of agree with this point.
I really want to believe that most of Anet's focus is going towards GW2, but with the lack of, well, anything about it, it's a tough thing to keep believing.
And I really, really hate to bring up this point since it's being beaten to death already, but the problems with the XTH are starting to make me believe that they aren't focusing on the current game either.
...So what does that leave, exactly?

Brett Kuntz

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Originally Posted by king swift View Post
I think I'm more interested in Diablo 3. On blizzard's diablo website, it has gameplay videos and it seems appealing. Guild Wars needs some GAMEPLAY and fans will be excited.
Haha why do you still post here? For months, every post you claim how you are no longer going to buy GW2 because there is no info for it, and you always claim you'll be buying Blizzards games because they have screenshots and videos. Nobody believes your lies, we all know you'll be buying GW2 the first hour it's available at a store in your area. ArenaNET could purposely not release any info on GW2 right up to the moment it's released, just to spite you, and you would still buy it the first chance you got.

GW2 has been in development less than 2 years, and you expect screenshots and gameplay videos? Diablo 3 has been in development for close to 4 years now, and there's less than 1 to go. Of course they have videos of it, the game is about to come out so they are advertising and hyping it.

Phelann

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Originally Posted by Kuntz View Post
In 7 weeks is PAX, they will probably have something very nice for us.
I completely forgot about PAX's existence. time to hold out some hope~

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Originally Posted by Kuntz View Post
Haha why do you still post here? For months, every post you claim how you are no longer going to buy GW2 because there is no info for it, and you always claim you'll be buying Blizzards games because they have screenshots and videos. Nobody believes your lies, we all know you'll be buying GW2 the first hour it's available at a store in your area. ArenaNET could purposely not release any info on GW2 right up to the moment it's released, just to spite you, and you would still buy it the first chance you got.

GW2 has been in development less than 2 years, and you expect screenshots and gameplay videos? Diablo 3 has been in development for close to 4 years now, and there's less than 1 to go. Of course they have videos of it, the game is about to come out so they are advertising and hyping it.
I am pretty sure its been more than 4 years. Plus look at Star Craft when was it released. 1998? its a decade and a bit IF they started then and there.. Regardless fans new its gonna come out and yet the trailer was announced only in 2007 so its about 8 years of complete and utter silence... Blizzard backside lickers forget about that alot of times =)

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Well, I think same as O.P, only that I'm not sure it means they can't give us a tiny bit of info. to dwell on... Like, just tell us some lore, or some stuff which you know WILL be in the other games anyway, just tell us something! Duke Nukem Forever had shown more lifesigns than GW2, and thats kinda bad...

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Originally Posted by Yoom Omer View Post
Well, I think same as O.P, only that I'm not sure it means they can't give us a tiny bit of info. to dwell on... Like, just tell us some lore, or some stuff which you know WILL be in the other games anyway, just tell us something! Duke Nukem Forever had shown more lifesigns than GW2, and thats kinda bad...
Ludicrous.

So, if they showed some screenies and gameplay videos everyone would STFU about Guild Wars 2 being dead? Doubtful.

The very fact that Duke Nukem Forever supposedly had screenies and videos, and was still fake, just shows how stupid this comment is!

Quit comparing Duke Nukem to Guild Wars 2. Duke Nukem Forever was announced in April, 1997. Over 12 years ago. The last game made by 3D Realms (DNF developer) was Shadow Warrior, released May 13, 1997. Yeah, I never heard of it either. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Warrior

So, yeah, when NCSoft sues ArenaNet for failing to deliver, when they fire Guild Wars co-founder and Guild Wars 2 Executive Director Mike O'Brien, when GW2 has been in development for 12 years.... then you can start making comparisons.

Until then, people like you are just trying to stir up controversy where there is none.

It been 2 years people. Nothing surprising about a company not giving out screenshots of their game after 2 years in development. The only thing ArenaNet did wrong was imply there was going to be betas in the end of 2008.... obviously a mistake they are not going to repeat by making foolhardy comments on release dates or fuel speculation by releasing screenshots.

As for lore, there is going to be a series of books filling in the gaps between Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2.... but I'm sure people will complain about that as well.

NeHoMaR

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I agree with the zero information about GW2, I prefer focus more in GW1 info, updates, because that is the GW I am playing, not GW2.

I want GW2 to be a superior and high quality game, so if they need 2 more years, is good for me.

gremlin

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If GW2 is coming in 6 months they should be telling us loads
12 months away we could expect them to tell us something new soon.
More than 12 months away saying anything is pointless.

They are caught in a trap because they were ending one game early and had to tell us not to worry GW2 was on the way.
Whatever they do or say it will be deemed wrong.

The only right thing way to do it was to give GW1 a couple more additions while working on GW2.
It seems they didn't have the resources to do that

I am a pretty slow player not having finished NF or Eye yet so I have plenty of play left.

Lishy

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Hi, i herdz we didn't get much infoz on star fox wii orz pikmin wii eiver even though they're in development durrrrrrrrrrrr

Difference is that GW playerbase is too stubborn -_-

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I went with no 2 the little I know the better as I playing something that better resemble GW2.To Ghost Omer listen to Kuntz and how you aren't on TGH atm?

It better include more elements from other traditional MMOs as well or it will turn out the same as GW.

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It's their game, their decision, their time and money. They can do what they like. And will.

YunSooJin

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The devs know people will not boycott their game just because there was less information out about it.

Basically, they know you are a sucker, they either have you or they don't, and they can treat you like shit as much as they like, because in the end it won't matter.

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Originally Posted by Phelann View Post
I completely forgot about PAX's existence. time to hold out some hope~
Regina posted in another thread about the things that NCSoft would be bringing to PAX. There was no mention whatsoever of GW2. I wouldn't hold out too much hope.

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Originally Posted by pamelf View Post
Regina posted in another thread about the things that NCSoft would be bringing to PAX. There was no mention whatsoever of GW2. I wouldn't hold out too much hope.
Where did she say this? Only mention of PAX I recall from Regina was a response in the GW2 concept art thread where she said someone in the thread is very astute - which was right after someone mentioned possibly that GW2 info could be at the PAX. Well, two people I believe - after that statement I brought up the "big splash" statement and that it could be at PAX.

So where did Regina list things off of what will be at PAX?

Edit:
A quick search of Regina's posts and I found this:
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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra View Post
Martin will be at GC in Cologne, and a few others from ArenaNet, but the focus for NCsoft as a whole will be Aion.

And yes ArenaNet will be at PAX. (And so will Aion and City of Heroes). :-)
And of course, I found your response to posts later:
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Originally Posted by pamelf View Post
From Regina's statement I think we can safely assume No.
Just to tell you, Regina said nothing about what Anet will bring. So GW2 info can be there. I'd assume your assumption was poorly thought out - no offense intended, but Regina's statement does not say whether GW2 will be mentioned there or not. Especially since it was said (somewhere, can't recall where) that GW2 info will be released "later this year" - best time would be at PAX.

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes View Post
but Regina's statement does not say whether GW2 will be mentioned there or not. Especially since it was said (somewhere, can't recall where) that GW2 info will be released "later this year" - best time would be at PAX.
I've come to expect the least from Anet since sustained management has gone to crap since they began work on GW2. The whole reason people are clamoring for info is because GW1 is sorely neglected. We know that GW1 is only getting half assed (as was the whole EOTN in my opinion) BECAUSE of GW2 production. I think we're all ok about that reason, but when we can't see the result of all this diverted effort that has left players in the shithouse?
They have a cop-out for GW1, but we cant see proof of the cop-out.

Taking the fact that updates are increasingly delayed and buggy... Regina's "later this year" statement will mean Dec. 31st, 2009 (this year). And thats assuming they won't pull the same bs as last year. BETA END OF 2008 ANYONE?

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Anet won't say anything until at least the end of September when Aion goes live, but I am not expecting anything until December or January. NCSoft making a large profit is a positive for Anet, so they will allow the Aion hype to run its course before they will even imply anything about GW2.

Nerel

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Originally Posted by YunSooJin View Post
The devs know people will not boycott their game just because there was less information out about it.

Basically, they know you are a sucker, they either have you or they don't, and they can treat you like shit as much as they like, because in the end it won't matter.
I don't think they're worried about people boycotting the game, because very few geeks are that hardcore in their umbrage at gaming companies... but the risk that they do face, is that people will grow bored of the wait, give up hope of the game being released any time soon, and, not being kept 'hanging on' by tidbits of information about the game, they'll move on, they'll find other games to play, and they might not come back to the franchise if they get 'hooked' into another MMO or MMO-like game...

Brett Kuntz

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Originally Posted by Nerel View Post
I don't think they're worried about people boycotting the game, because very few geeks are that hardcore in their umbrage at gaming companies... but the risk that they do face, is that people will grow bored of the wait, give up hope of the game being released any time soon, and, not being kept 'hanging on' by tidbits of information about the game, they'll move on, they'll find other games to play, and they might not come back to the franchise if they get 'hooked' into another MMO or MMO-like game...
Trust me, everyone will be playing GW2, other MMO's wont stand a chance against it.

Lishy

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Aion??? ^^^

Hey, it's the perfect candidate to get people addicted before release of gw2.

Nerel

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Well, given the number of players that lost interest during GW1's lifetime, while the game was still active (that is, while expansions were still being released), I'm sure that some people, somewhere, might not make the move to GW2, as they're already lost to WoW, WAR, any of the slew of free MMOs (and the large number of premium MMOs transitioning to the free model). But yes, I hope you are right, and ArenaNet is successful with GW2.

I don't doubt that the retention rate for people who are still commenting on Guild Wars in forums such as this will be quite high indeed.

Archaic

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I'm content to wait. ANet can take all the time they want, and if you don't like it, I think you should lump it or leave it.


When GW2 comes out, I will buy it, and play it. Until then, I'll stay with GW1.

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Happy to wait.

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I herd GW2 loses against Aoin and Diablo3.

GW2 is vaporware.

Bryant Again

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Originally Posted by Xanthe Dashka View Post
I herd GW2 loses against Aoin and Diablo3.

GW2 is vaporware.
-Aion releases soon, GW2 much later
-*Everyone* is going to lose against Diablo 3, it's frickin' D3!

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again View Post
-Aion releases soon, GW2 much later
-*Everyone* is going to lose against Diablo 3, it's frickin' D3!
Also SC2 not to mention any other future FPS on the horizon. I really don't think Aion is really going to capture much of the NA market tbh, once people play it, find out it's plagued by bots, kill stealing and gank fest Castle Siege World PvP as an end game. It all depends, but I see Gw2 most likely coming the Spring of 2011. Too many other games like Global Agenda, Stars Wars, Champions Online and DC Universe Online all slated for later this year or just after.

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If you want to see the clear difference between how it should be done and what anet do, just look at http://www.swtor.com.
That game was announced less than a year ago, and while it has no release date, its expected to be 2010 at the earliest.

These days, game development span years, but that doesn't mean a complete lack of information for the fans during the process. Regular flow of information is part of a games marketing, to get it out there, show how its progressing, get people interested in it.

Although you cant exactly accuse NCSoft of ever properly marketing and promoting Guild Wars, it seems to rely on fan site and word of mouth rather than any kind of advertising presence.

Bryant Again

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Originally Posted by Ec]-[oMaN View Post
Also SC2 not to mention any other future FPS on the horizon. I really don't think Aion is really going to capture much of the NA market tbh, once people play it, find out it's plagued by bots, kill stealing and gank fest Castle Siege World PvP as an end game. It all depends, but I see Gw2 most likely coming the Spring of 2011. Too many other games like Global Agenda, Stars Wars, Champions Online and DC Universe Online all slated for later this year or just after.
It's a Korean MMO, and they usually don't have much of an appeal outside of where it was developed. What it does have going for it are shiny yet not terribly overkilling graphics. The RvR also having an NPC faction sounds like a good idea since having only two sides can have a few repurcussions as witnessed in Warhammer. But still I'm not terribly interested in it. You can't judge MMO's by first impressions, and that's pretty much the only thing all of the people I know talking about it have.

Largely, I'm just a bit ticked when someone's like "GW's gonna be doomed against D3!". And yes, that's true. But what game isn't going to be "doomed" against anything Blizzard releases?

ANet does have an edge, though, and that's in GW1 being pretty successful with a large amount of positive reviews.

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Originally Posted by jackers1234 View Post
This.

Although i do understand the reason for it, it annoys me a little bit that we get no new info at all on GW2, just cos they are scared that people wont buy aion.

to be perfectly honest, that makes me worry about the faith they have in their own games, lol.
You mean like Tablu Rasa, may haps???

dusanyu

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a Game like this takes a while to make chill out, relax it is going to arrive. Find something to do until then, preferably something that does not involve QQing.

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a Game like this takes a while to make chill out, relax it is going to arrive. Find something to do until then, preferably something that does not involve QQing.
The point of this thread isn't "zomg why izn't dis game out yet durr"

Its, why if the NCSoft timeline is correct about at least a 2010 release at the earliest, haven't we seen more than a pretty logo someone could make in a day and a lot of vague lore.

We have no screenshots, no in-game footage, no class info, no HoM rewards, no specific storyline info (except for the general lore stuff), no info on how long they will continue the game and whether it will be in chapters or expansions (although I recall reading they were leaning towards expansions), no info on what effect jumping/etc... will have on skills, whether there will be mounts, and on and on and on...

Essentially we have a pretty logo and alot of half-assed lore. Both of which I'm sure could have been made in a day if everyone agreed on it and didn't spend time arguing.

SerenitySilverstar

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Oh FTFOS - not ANOTHER of these threads.

It. Will. Happen. When. It. Happens.

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Originally Posted by shoyon456 View Post
The point of this thread isn't "zomg why izn't dis game out yet durr"

Its, why if the NCSoft timeline is correct about at least a 2010 release at the earliest, haven't we seen more than a pretty logo someone could make in a day and a lot of vague lore.

We have no screenshots, no in-game footage, no class info, no HoM rewards, no specific storyline info (except for the general lore stuff), no info on how long they will continue the game and whether it will be in chapters or expansions (although I recall reading they were leaning towards expansions), no info on what effect jumping/etc... will have on skills, whether there will be mounts, and on and on and on...

Essentially we have a pretty logo and alot of half-assed lore. Both of which I'm sure could have been made in a day if everyone agreed on it and didn't spend time arguing.

Thank you for proving my point just chill.

you will get these things as they are ready peeing ones pants is not going to make the info come any faster it is just going to give you wet pants.

shoyon456

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Originally Posted by dusanyu View Post
Thank you for proving my point just chill.

you will get these things as they are ready peeing ones pants is not going to make the info come any faster it is just going to give you wet pants.
Good job on making yourself seem right, and the truth is, you ARE correct.

The problem is, you provide no reason for the lack of info. I think it's been established that games with at least a year till release should start slowly beginning to hype. The Old Republic was one good example. No it does not at all matter when it comes, but I think it's reasonable to be a complete skeptic, seeing as how the "beta at the end of 2008" never came true. Its now halfway through 2009, and we still have not seen a screenshot or any in-game footage.

The lack of in-game footage or screenshots might be understandable if there was definite information about parts of GW2 that would concern GW1 players.

I'm just questioning what they're doing with GW2 because I have found GW1 to be enjoyable. I think they have let players down in the subsequent management of gw1 since the transition, and it would go a long ways toward restoring player faith to show the players why support has declined and whether or not they can still create a good game with great support. GW2 is only a legitamate cop-out for GW1 if they show us something definite about it. Otherwise it just sounds like "the dog ate my homework teach."

EDIT: On "half-assed lore" I was referring to GW2. With eotn they did a complete 180 degree setup for GW2, and it wasn't too bad, but the transition to a typical mmo with the main antagonists being dragons and whatnot is seen in the GW2 lore. GW1 didn't follow this typical setup.

Bryant Again

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Your concern and frustration at ANet not releasing anything else is understandable, but it's pretty uncalled for to call their lore "half-assed". ANet's put a lot of care into their world, and that's part of the reason we've become so connected to GW1.

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Your concern and frustration at ANet not releasing anything else is understandable, but it's pretty uncalled for to call their lore "half-assed". ANet's put a lot of care into their world, and that's part of the reason we've become so connected to GW1.
And the amount of lore released thus far for GW2 is in anyway comparable to the wealth of knowledge released for Prophecies before it went retail? No, not yet it isn't.

I don't think 'half-assed' was fair, either, but it's not entirely without merit to the poster's point of the lore being too little, in quantity and detail.

Brett Kuntz

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@shoyon456: Releasing lore, screenshots, movies, and info in no way helps or increases sales. They don't need to keep fans interested with GW2 content because anyone who's a fan will buy GW2 regardless.

Content is typically made/finalized during the last year, which means GW2 has no real content right now, and they're just starting to create most of it. They probably have a lot of art assets, but nothing really "put together". A lot of companies string together what looks like a working level or sequence of events, but it's all just smoke & mirrors so they can release a gameplay movie. Think of any gameplay movie you watched in the past. Did the final product have that level or sequence? Did it play out like the movie depicted? Was it the first thing you did in the game, and almost feel as if it was only tacked-on just because they released an early gameplay movie of it?

Any gameplay movie made 6-12+ months before a game is released is basically just smoke & mirrors, a glorified magic act.

Konig Des Todes

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Originally Posted by Nerel View Post
And the amount of lore released thus far for GW2 is in anyway comparable to the wealth of knowledge released for Prophecies before it went retail? No, not yet it isn't.

I don't think 'half-assed' was fair, either, but it's not entirely without merit to the poster's point of the lore being too little, in quantity and detail.
And yet, looking at all the lore prior to release - heck just prior to beta - most, if not all, was changed in many ways. For instance, the stories - Saul's name was different, the name of Ascalon City was changed, the importance of guilds in the world was reduced later on, Devona and co. went from main heroes to side heroes, etc. etc.

We cannot compare the two amounts of lore yet because GW1 had more time to release lore before the release of the game compared to how much time GW2 has been in development and what lore was given. The lore we have for GW2 is just "filling the gaps between games" for the most part. For all we know, the Ancient Dragons won't be real enemies and they are just used as sentient "forces of nature" for the next game - neither good nor evil, and never confronted direct, but a constant obstacle for the game.

Lonesamurai

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Originally Posted by Kuntz View Post

Any gameplay movie made 6-12+ months before a game is released is basically just smoke & mirrors, a glorified magic act.
Kuntz says it allhere! as an old timermyself I STILL want dual wielding like Devona can in that prerelease video that was put out 6 months before Prophecies release...

and no! Assassins can't dual wield, they just have one two handed set, it just happens to be in two parts in each hand!

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again View Post
It's a Korean MMO, and they usually don't have much of an appeal outside of where it was developed. What it does have going for it are shiny yet not terribly overkilling graphics. The RvR also having an NPC faction sounds like a good idea since having only two sides can have a few repurcussions as witnessed in Warhammer. But still I'm not terribly interested in it. You can't judge MMO's by first impressions, and that's pretty much the only thing all of the people I know talking about it have.
Half of my previous guild stopped playing gw for AION even though it was in China/Korea only. I think more will follow when they release it in Europe.

Odinius

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I'm a bit frustrated yes, but that's probably my own fault.
Patience is one of the many virtues I don't have and I'm dying to see a glimpse of the game that's going to surpass the one I'm playing now.
Just hope we get some info soon before I explode :P