SF Argument
Targren
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Originally Posted by kanuks
Quote: Also, calling the casual players "Random morons"... I didn't. I called PUGs "Random Morons." As I said, "casual" players are not hanging out in elite areas.
Quote: You think you are good because you use SF? You think only the best players can use it? You think that because of that, SF should not be nerfed, since only the "top super elite players" are able to use SF correctly? You're so wrong. Even a newbie can run it. Except I never said any of those things. I see you've moved on to strawman arguments. I never claimed I was a "super elite player" or even "good." I think I'm doing fairly well, having completed 9/16 of the "accomplishment" titles on my main (which is a ranger and does not have access to SF). Well enough that the game is still fun for me, at least.
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That has yet to be demonstrated. Not one of them, to date, succeeds logically, substantiated by fact rather than preference.
Don't act like you are superior to other players because you abuse of a broken skill.
I never claimed to be a superior player. I pointed out flawed logic. The two are entirely unrelated issues, that you seem to be taking personally. Quote:
You're certainly fixated, aren't you? The point was that you were wrong, you have no business speaking for the developers, especially when you DIRECTLY contradict what they themselves have said.
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Quote: 3 : Sorry but your attitude makes it look like you feel superior than the random morons known as casual players. According to you, they aren't supposed to hang in elite areas, heh. You're the one who called casual players "random morons."
I called pugs "Random Morons." That is based entirely on experience, and it is an experience shared by many. Just look at the old 7-heroes thread.
Quote: 4 : Thanks for proving my point. DOA was indeed an ursan fest and it got nerfed. What the hell is UW if not a SF fest? I really don't get how the Ursan's nerf can support your point as you try to claim but fail terribly. I will explain it more simply (because you will doubtless use your "English is not my primary language" dodge to explain your illiteracy on this point, despite the fact that you were able to read everything else I wrote.)
GIVEN: DoA was an ursan fest.
GIVEN: While DoA was an ursan fest, it was crowded, and there was always a pug to be had (if you met requirements).
CHANGE: Ursan was nerfed.
RESULT: No more PUGs in DoA.
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5 : And I will laugh at you crying about your favourite skill being nerfed, that way we will both have a good laugh.
Those bastards are going to nerf Broad Head Arrow?! Quote:
No you are. Which players do you think have the most needs of forming a pug? Thats right, casual players. You called pugs "random morons" but fail to admit that 90% of the pugs are casual players. Admit that you are wrong instead trying to justify the idiocy that you said. You talk about me putting words in your mouth and then you say I am the one that called casual players moron. What a nice use of double standards.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Targren I will explain it more simply (because you will doubtless use your "English is not my primary language" dodge to explain your illiteracy on this point, despite the fact that you were able to read everything else I wrote.) Again, personnal insults. Running out of arguments perhaps?
Quote: Originally Posted by Targren GIVEN: DoA was an ursan fest.
GIVEN: While DoA was an ursan fest, it was crowded, and there was always a pug to be had (if you met requirements).
CHANGE: Ursan was nerfed.
RESULT: No more PUGs in DoA. The difference is blatant but you fail to see it :
Ursan doa = pugs everywhere. easy to get a game but everyone using 2 monks + 6 ursans so that goes against the GW philosophy.
UWSC with SF = No one can find a pug but that's still groups consisting of 7 SFers. That goes even more against the GW philosophy.
Your entire argument is based over the fact that even if SF is nerfed, forming a pug will still be very difficult (You ignore the fact that it would still be easier than it is right now). But you fail to admit that SF is a broken skill, the most broken in the game on top of that. Ursan was broken and got hit by the nerf bat, SF is broken and should be nerfed. You know it but you don't want to admit it.
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