Update 11/19/09

Sharkinu

Sharkinu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Romania

Smells Like Bear Spirit [Norn]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by discipleofpain View Post
i didn't log on for a few weeks i am denied access to some new UW content?
No you just wont get the 5k an 100 ToT bag after killing Dhuum.

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick Thene View Post
Excuse my pessimism (you must all be used to it by now, surely?), I've been looking forward to this quest, but I can't but fell that the fight with Dhuum will be one of two things:

1. Incredibly hard, meaning that once you get up to him after completeing all of UW (bleh) he absolutely buttslams you out of there, or...
2. Incredibly easy, to prevent the above from happening.

I'm hoping for the best, but I think I'll play the waiting game just a wee bit longer, to see my fears either put to rest or confirmed.
Have you seen the skills he allegedly uses? I have a feeling it's going to be the former.

Judgement of Dhuum
Reaping of Dhuum
Touch of Dhuum

Fanita

Fanita

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2008

W/P

dont you guys understand? they are making it impossible to finish UW and get the end chest. dhumms skills are so ridiculously insane no group can beat him. this is just making the completion of UW impossible. thats their plan. they figure if you can finish it then so many people wont be bent over beating it in 30 minutes

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

bleh, interesting. soon as i go to toa, need 20 achievements, lmao.

Joe Fierce

Joe Fierce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Disconnect the fascination

LF High End PvE Guild that's not filled with elitists.

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Opinionator View Post
Once again..they are reinforcing uwsc. There should be some kind of stipulation that requires at least 5 different classes in the party or something to that effect. It's really a load of bull that so few people will actually get to be able to do this after all the halloween hype about it.

Here's all you are going to see for UW now:

"LFG Exp. Vale/Mts./Chamber/Pits/(etc.) Full UW+Dhuum!!"

Emphasis on Exp.
If you think that, skeletons of dhuum say hallo to uwsc, it has been this way for some time, lolololol.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

Feh. Looks like I won't be seeing Dhuum any time soon, what with the fact that I've never done UW and my main isn't a profession that people exactly jump to include in groups.

BlueXIV

BlueXIV

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

CA

N/

Pfff grab a friend and H/H it. Should be manageable on HM (tho you might have some trouble with new wastes and 4H), and quite easy on NM

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

Well when someone gets to Dhumm I would like to hear what the battle is like and what he drops, if anything.

Jensy

Jensy

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan View Post
Well when someone gets to Dhumm I would like to hear what the battle is like and what he drops, if anything.
Yeeeep. Gonna be lazy and wait for more info, lol. We don't make a habit of doing UW clears in my guild, and I have done it but most of us have never have... so it'll be an adventure. Of course, it'll blow if you get through with that and Dhumm is all "LOL NOOB" within the first 5 mins and you get punted back to ToA right off :P

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jensy View Post
Yeeeep. Gonna be lazy and wait for more info, lol. We don't make a habit of doing UW clears in my guild, and I have done it but most of us have never have... so it'll be an adventure. Of course, it'll blow if you get through with that and Dhumm is all "LOL NOOB" within the first 5 mins and you get punted back to ToA right off :P
Given it till tomorrow someone will have info on it by tomorrow

dr love

dr love

...is in denial

Join Date: Sep 2006

Hyperion

starcraft 2

P/Me

we beat it. its pretty epic crazy.

you have to beat underworld HM per usual. but there is no chest. you have to go to the hall of judgement and fight dhuum. he summons bone minions which do no damage against SF (hehe), but are like warriors on crack. if you die once you go to forgotten vale and come back as a weird spirit with different skills. you have to protect the reapers as they put dhuum to rest and then kill dhuum. we were all on vent screaming at each other, and still don't completely understand what happened. but once he's done, there's a chest, with new drops. some of our guys got some sweeeeeeeet stuff (luckers!)

some other things:
dhuum has a few crazy skills/spells. he has a 200 or so dmg scythe attack. a nasty hex. a summon minions spell. and a large aoe fire spell.

for those interested in how to beat uw, we used the mobway tactics. not the fastest, but we'd rather be safe than sorry.

start of boss http://img17.imageshack.us/i/gw098w.jpg/
us gettin smacked http://img688.imageshack.us/i/gw099.jpg/
dhuum defeated http://img200.imageshack.us/i/gw102b.jpg/
chest http://img694.imageshack.us/i/gw103.jpg/
new scythe http://img4.imageshack.us/i/gw106v.jpg/
anima lucker! mini smite http://img8.imageshack.us/i/gw105l.jpg/

skills when u die:
http://img36.imageshack.us/i/gw224.jpg/
http://img33.imageshack.us/i/gw223c.jpg/
http://img42.imageshack.us/i/gw222.jpg/
http://img33.imageshack.us/i/gw221.jpg/
http://img33.imageshack.us/i/gw220f.jpg/

Tramp

Tramp

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

darnit, i was hoping for a dhumm quest like the other 4 halloween ones where maybe you get to fight him solo using some halloween special skills and it is slightly challenging but doable and fun. Then there also be another new dhumm at the end of a complete uw clear where he kicks the party's butt that is there permanently that might drop some nice stuff. i guess i wont be ever seeing him after all. oh well...

Killerminds

Killerminds

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

For 5...21 seconds I CAN take damage

Union Of Light Form Users

W/

ooooooh show us! show us!

superraptors

superraptors

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2008

W/

dhuum is a nasty necro boss with 3 elite skills and hits twice as hard as an aatxe

not to mention he has a skill similar to soulrending shriek called soul rip where he removes all enchants and gains back 100hp per ench

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tramp View Post
darnit, i was hoping for a dhumm quest like the other 4 halloween ones where maybe you get to fight him solo using some halloween special skills and it is slightly challenging but doable and fun. Then there also be another new dhumm at the end of a complete uw clear where he kicks the party's butt that is there permanently that might drop some nice stuff.
Same here - I thought there was a reason there were some empty skills on the Transmogrifier bar, and they would be added for a 1v1 or something for the quest - then have an even more pissed off version at the end of UW.

Grats dbulger, btw.

Aba

Aba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vancouver,Canada

ROFL..
Just made it throuigh most of UW
just to watch monk not heal frozenwind.
back I go again............

Coolpb

Coolpb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2008

Bergen Hot Springs

We Farm Your [ECTOs]

A/

What happened to the pictures? Coming?

BladeDVD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Hawaii

Clan Of Elders

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dbulger View Post
we beat it. its pretty epic crazy.

you have to beat underworld HM per usual. but there is no chest. you have to go to the hall of judgement and fight dhuum. he summons bone minions which do no damage against SF (hehe), but are like warriors on crack. if you die once you go to forgotten vale and come back as a weird spirit with different skills (more to come). you have to protect the reapers as they put dhuum to rest and then kill dhuum. we were all on vent screaming at each other, and still don't completely understand what happened. but once he's done, there's a chest, with new drops. some of our guys got some sweeeeeeeet stuff (luckers!)

start of boss http://img17.imageshack.us/i/gw098w.jpg/
us gettin smacked http://img688.imageshack.us/i/gw099.jpg/
dhuum defeated http://img200.imageshack.us/i/gw102b.jpg/
chest http://img694.imageshack.us/i/gw103.jpg/
new scythe http://img4.imageshack.us/i/gw106v.jpg/
anima lucker! mini smite http://img8.imageshack.us/i/gw105l.jpg/
Awesome! Thanks for the pics and grats on the successful clear!!!

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Dhuum is cool and all, but it looks like we're back we started.
Is HM actually a requirement to fight Grenth?

UW is so darn hard costly with its Aatxes and no rez shrine.
I understand people might make the "life is not fair" argument, so I'll leave my statement at this:
When you have to buy a shitload of consumables and keep your whole party under protective spirit constantly when you play balanced, something is wrong.
Dhuum just promotes the use of another dumb gimmick with tanks. Be it Obsidian Flesh, Shadow Form, or whatever.

I wish that were changed :|

AlsPals

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Sellin hot stock tips for pro[fit]

Me/E

Rofl. Even more incentive to UWSC. Time to buy Dragon Age cause this ship has sunk.(Nice SS though, dbulger. Them Smites are gonna be $$$ soon.)

lorenna

lorenna

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Ireland

[bAd]

Mo/

i just saw the mini smite in town i was like wtf when did they add that? so they do drop from the chest?

Azure Requiem

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

Rt/

oh wow a scythe that actually looks good <.<

guessing its a green based on what i think the name is "dhuum's soul reaper" if so then as good as it looks static stats kill my interest.

wonder what other new stuff got added.

BladeDVD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Hawaii

Clan Of Elders

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lorenna View Post
i just saw the mini smite in town i was like wtf when did they add that? so they do drop from the chest?
Based on dbulger's screenshots, that seems like a fair assumption.

Joe Fierce

Joe Fierce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Disconnect the fascination

LF High End PvE Guild that's not filled with elitists.

R/

So, to complete did you guys mob it up or do a split like uwsc days? I'm totally out of the loop as to how it's done now adays since they nerfed uwsc with the skeletons, I've just been doing balanced, lol.

lorenna

lorenna

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Ireland

[bAd]

Mo/

yeh i guess some1 in town was saying it but this comfirms it

Coolpb

Coolpb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2008

Bergen Hot Springs

We Farm Your [ECTOs]

A/

Ask your friend to Screen the New Scythe!

I'd love to see the stats!

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

My question is how people can beat a boss that applies death penalty and powerful ass warriors behind him :/

DJCoastal

DJCoastal

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Vancouver, BC, Canada

Mo/

I was wondering when they would come out with a miniature smite crawler...

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

I find it rather silly that the way to prevent UWSC is through a boss at the end...

... or am I missing something greater than that?

draxynnic

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain Fz View Post
Dhuum just promotes the use of another dumb gimmick with tanks. Be it Obsidian Flesh, Shadow Form, or whatever.
This was my thought on seeing that the confirmed team to beat Dhuum was basically composed of permasins and monks. Not to denigrate dbulger's accomplishment, but wasn't the whole point to break the dominance of shadowform and give other professions a go?

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

Soooo, not only is UWSC still viable, but they added a boss at the end and gave even more incentive to do it?
/doublefail

And yes, the scythe is pretty. Another pretty piece of **** that won't mean a darn thing once GW2 releases in 2011. And a minipet...how predictable. Why I continually have hope that Anet will suddenly reverse all their past decisions and move in the direction they initially began in is beyond me.

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by StormDragonZ View Post
I find it rather silly that the way to prevent UWSC is through a boss at the end...

... or am I missing something greater than that?
Actually, if you saw the screenshot, I think it's safe to assume that the team that provided proof of his defeat was a UWSC team.

AlsPals

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Sellin hot stock tips for pro[fit]

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by draxynnic View Post
This was my thought on seeing that the confirmed team to beat Dhuum was basically composed of permasins and monks. Not to denigrate dbulger's accomplishment, but wasn't the whole point to break the dominance of shadowform and give other professions a go?
Nope. Now UWSCers who manage to get it down have new 100k XXX items to rally them to get better at it. Anet just sold their car so they could get gas money.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Curse_of_Dhuum
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Judgment_of_Dhuum
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Touch_of_Dhuum
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Weight_of_Dhuum

Doesn't help his minions are so strong either..

Dhuum is 2 steps forward, yet 4 steps back.
/QQ about UW difficulty for normal teams

Before they fix uwsc, they need to fix UW in general. It's too easy to be kicked out and takes too long.

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

Sooooo Anet attempts to nerf UWSC by adding skeletons (changes 2-3 temps.) and adding a boss that takes a while to kill, while adding even more exclusives to the underworld?

Oh, I can't wait for Regina to try and explain this.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

What does Regina have to do with anything? I doubt she had design involvement in this.

Still, eventually a speedclear gimmick will blossom out of this and we will reap the rewards. Criticism aside, I like dhuum's skull arms

StormX

StormX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/Mo

I'm guessing that only Monks and Assas will ever get to beat Dhuum. So the rich farmers get richer and ... well that's kind of pointless ain't it.

/QQ

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Does that mean we need to wait another 2 months for a skill update?
Or is it 4 considering that in 2 months they'll be busy with Wintersday?
Or is it 6 considering that in 4 months they'll be busy with Cathan New Year?

Joe Fierce

Joe Fierce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Disconnect the fascination

LF High End PvE Guild that's not filled with elitists.

R/

I'm personally pretty pissed that essentially all they've done is made it harder for balanced and more required to do sc builds, that's just, bs.

I do both personally, sc and balanced, but, I don't think either side should be shunned from a zone.

Quote:
Originally Posted by StormX View Post
I'm guessing that only Monks and Assas will ever get to beat Dhuum. So the rich farmers get richer and ... well that's kind of pointless ain't it.

/QQ
Don't boohoo because "rich farmers will get richer" that's the point of farming, boohoo because of the blatant profession strat they just put in until someone figures out something new, oh wait, this is guild wars, path of least resistance and thought, no one WILL think of something new until forced too.

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain Fz View Post
What does Regina have to do with anything? I doubt she had design involvement in this.
She's the PR...eventually people are going to start wondering why anet still hasn't stopped uwscs like they promised.

edit: Seems they posted the update on the main page now, much appreciated for better communication.