Update 11/19/09

Sharkinu

Sharkinu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Romania

Smells Like Bear Spirit [Norn]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordiego View Post
Can we get a screenie of the new scythe skin, plz?
Right here

Joe Fierce

Joe Fierce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Disconnect the fascination

LF High End PvE Guild that's not filled with elitists.

R/

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by optymind View Post
how will dervs and rangers finish uw?
Guild team..?

If guildies won't take anything besides the current PvE meta then they're a waste of space.

snowman relic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2009

your just a meatsheild to me

N/Mo

ive seen a couple threads about all the UW new rewards ie dhuum smite crawler minis and dhuums soul reaper. but i really think it would better help the community if all the new rewards were posted on this thread. thank you for your co-operation ((sorry for spelling))

EDIT: pics and discriptions would be appreciated

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

If people can't be bothered to search though a few threads then they don't deserve to see the new items. Period.

Erasculio

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by dbulger View Post
Does someone know the name of the spirit form you become when you die with 60% DP?

Erasculio

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

I remember Linsey saying that she'd love to do more deity zones, or somethink the like. I wonder whether this is the tradeoff between their willingness and their (limited) means.

EDIT: the ghost skills seem OP and clearly designed for the challenge.

Lillium

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2009

REIN

Me/

Dervs can always take a guild Dervway http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_General_Dervway

Rangers have been getting PuG's all night for splinter barrage.

Also, nerfing SF into oblivion is entirely unnecessary. IMO they're entirely unlikely to do what seems to be expected here because they'll most likely loose more players over it than is worth making a few people happy.
SF could be a lot worse - you're either locked into A/E or have to buy (and usually waste) tons of consets just to keep it up. The damage is incredibly sub par, even with the silly gimmicks. Personally, I don't want to think about doing DoA or Urgoz without one SF tank, warriors are fail tanks as a class design and dervs are not much better.
And as has been said, nerf SF into unusability and some other stupid gimmick build will come along just as easily.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Um... so if a player dies, they return as a ghost with a new skillbar in Forgotten Vale, as long as they didn't have 60% DP?

What happens to heroes when they die?

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

Well, that's cool, I guess....

I hope another UWSC comes along, I really hate how the UW quests are designed.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale View Post
Just a question. Has anyone beaten Mallyx HM with balanced, no cons sets and no pve skills?
Yes. Prior to EotN that's what was used in DoA, all the time.

If you weren't in one of the four professions of 'balanced' you were SOL and JWF. Because balanced is a euphemism for Cookie Cutter in this game's community.

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by own age myname View Post
I hope another UWSC comes along, I really hate how the UW quests are designed.
I'm in total agreement with this. Been around the block quite a few times in a variety of setups to beat the UW both before and after they added the Underworld Chest. I passed on SC's and really can't be bothered to clear for the umpteenth time to get a crack at this boss. Just my opinion of course but it would have been nice to avoid slogging through all these quests when a more elegant solution to his implementation was probably available. That's not to say I'm "work" averse just that I hate being forced to grind over stale old content to get to the new stuff. My suggestion would have been to give the Steward quest a more direct route leaving the full clear option on the table as a repeat if you want it.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

A revised speed clear team is continuing to power through UW, and is also beating your new boss. Also, no skill balance.

You continue to let me down, ANet.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
A revised speed clear team is continuing to power through UW, and is also beating your new boss. Also, no skill balance.

You continue to let me down, ANet.
Well, at least we got 2 new mini's for the OCD people to collect.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna View Post
Well, at least we got 2 new mini's for the OCD people to collect.
That's not even in the vicinity of a good trade-off, you know.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Cool, we can fight Dhuum now, inb4 shitty gimmicky bu-
Ooooh noooooo, it's already too late, what do you know.
Maybe it's time to really balance the game?
Also, I find it kind of ironic that the first new scythe dropped for a sf sin.
HEAUEHEUHAEUHAEUHEA

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Miniature_Smite_Crawler
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Miniature_Dhuum
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dhuum%27s_Soul_Reaper

Just check the wiki. The articles will be updated eventually.

Supreme Commander

Supreme Commander

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

[ToT]

R/

This whole discussion is pointless. PvE was ruined after introducing skills like Shadow Form, PvE skills, cons etc... Anet's not gonna change anything.

Yes it's pretty stupid but I guess anet wants to be stupid ><

Razon

Razon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2008

Mo/

I also heard that the chest drops a new Ghastly Summoning Stone.

Alfrond

Alfrond

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

The United States

Boston Guild [BG]

Mo/Me

The new UW content looks great. Can't wait to try it. Good job Anet.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

lol, how much are min dhuums going for atm, lololol.

semper.FI

semper.FI

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

A/

pc/d 2 dhuum sellers both going for 1100+e

Coolpb

Coolpb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2008

Bergen Hot Springs

We Farm Your [ECTOs]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna View Post
Would be nice not to have to wait if the person who had it dropped simply posted on here.

WTB Stats!

Minami

Minami

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jul 2008

Dallas, TX. USA

Not in any guild at the moment

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by semper.FI View Post
pc/d 2 dhuum sellers both going for 1100+e
That's pathetic

Tramp

Tramp

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minami Kaori View Post
That's pathetic
Meh, they can ask what they want. Doesnt mean they are gonna get it. And the person who posted the pc at 1100e just so happens to have one for sale on the high end threads, LOL. (No conflict of interest there, lol.) If there are several for sale already the price is gonna drop fast. Fortunately it sounds like it will be more affordable like the traveler gifts minis (under 100e) and not a polar bear, imo.

Minami

Minami

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jul 2008

Dallas, TX. USA

Not in any guild at the moment

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tramp View Post
Meh, they can ask what they want. Doesnt mean they are gonna get it. If there are several for sale already the price is gonna drop fast. Sounds like it will be more affordable like the traveler gifts minis and not a polar bear.
Yeah I know
I'm not in any hurry to buy one :P
Just find it incredible that people try to sell them for that high. Anyone with a brain will look up where those minis come from first, and then they'll know that it's not uber-rare like the MPB or the contest award minis.

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by dbulger View Post
we beat it. its pretty epic crazy.

you have to beat underworld HM per usual. but there is no chest. you have to go to the hall of judgement and fight dhuum. he summons bone minions which do no damage against SF (hehe), but are like warriors on crack. if you die once you go to forgotten vale and come back as a weird spirit with different skills. you have to protect the reapers as they put dhuum to rest and then kill dhuum. we were all on vent screaming at each other, and still don't completely understand what happened. but once he's done, there's a chest, with new drops. some of our guys got some sweeeeeeeet stuff (luckers!)

some other things:
dhuum has a few crazy skills/spells. he has a 200 or so dmg scythe attack. a nasty hex. a summon minions spell. and a large aoe fire spell.

for those interested in how to beat uw, we used the mobway tactics. not the fastest, but we'd rather be safe than sorry.

start of boss http://img17.imageshack.us/i/gw098w.jpg/
us gettin smacked http://img688.imageshack.us/i/gw099.jpg/
dhuum defeated http://img200.imageshack.us/i/gw102b.jpg/
chest http://img694.imageshack.us/i/gw103.jpg/
new scythe http://img4.imageshack.us/i/gw106v.jpg/
anima lucker! mini smite http://img8.imageshack.us/i/gw105l.jpg/

skills when u die:
http://img36.imageshack.us/i/gw224.jpg/
http://img33.imageshack.us/i/gw223c.jpg/
http://img42.imageshack.us/i/gw222.jpg/
http://img33.imageshack.us/i/gw221.jpg/
http://img33.imageshack.us/i/gw220f.jpg/
grats looks awesome.. especially the smite mini =] I was going to stay up but my buddy never showed.. we'll get around to beating it this weekend hopefully

gj.. that looks like anet actually put in some work

Miss Puddles

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

So do you have to defeat Dhuum for the UW chest to spawn? Or is it a second chest spawn?

mistokibbles

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coolpb View Post
Would be nice not to have to wait if the person who had it dropped simply posted on here.

WTB Stats!
Heard the scythe is a gold

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

I can't believe people expected something other then having to beat all of UW to get to Dhurrm. I mean... it was ALWAYS apparent to me that he was going to be a final boss fight. After all, the Waiting Game had pretty ridiculous rewards otherwise.

Edit1: Not making the boss WTFPWN SF... sigh

Edit2: The minis seem to have a pretty good drop rate. Anybody trying to sell for 1100e... heck more power to em. They will probably we worth a 10th of that in a few weeks.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Puddles View Post
So do you have to defeat Dhuum for the UW chest to spawn? Or is it a second chest spawn?
LMAO! one chest spawn after defeating dhuum, otherwise it would be slightly pointless to have put him in if u can still get to an end chest by doing the same UW from before >_<

Miss Puddles

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc View Post
LMAO! one chest spawn after defeating dhuum, otherwise it would be slightly pointless to have put him in if u can still get to an end chest by doing the same UW from before >_<
Hey, you never know with these things!
It wouldn't be unreasonable to expect the same UW chest to spawn after doing the same quests, then have an additional boss fight with better possible rewards.

toocooltang

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2008

USA

ToA

W/

Well I think the attempt to update UW was very nice, I am sure lots of long hours and hard work went into ANET. Thanks.

Somethings that are disappointing though is that there is no way to save progress...IE like in DOA. The DOA quest is taken in town then you can go and complete each area one at a time if you really want to. Now UW is a all or nothing shot, you either get all the reapers up or you dont and start over. This will be very tough for balanced and new groups.

Ice wastes is pretty tough without running obby, SB or SF. You really need 3 tanks to complete the quest. I don't know what the point in this? I think the intent was to make it unsoloable. Reality is that you are designing the game around a skill now, thus shutting everyone else that chose not to run the latest meta.

If you really want to make UW a little bit harder for SF groups you should have updated the fingers of chaos skill and add those monsters as pop ups to the underworld in addition to the skeletons. Would have been much easier to do imo. http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fingers_of_chaos

miriforst

miriforst

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2009

Avalons Wraiths

R/Rt

lol funny

i posted a thread yesterday about dhum comming but people didnt seem to like that

and hes awesomely cool stuff!

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dhuum

happy uw everyone!

(ps anyone up for it anyway?)

instanceskiller

instanceskiller

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Myst

A/

Even though i like the fact that dhuum has finally been added even though i never expected him to be (so gj anet for that), i don't like the fact that 2 months have passed and still no skill updates which was supposed to be expected every 2 months. From what i recall skill updates was changed from 1 month to 2 months so that the team could make 'more ambitious' skill updates.
Skill updates have been one of the only reasons why i am still logging into guild wars so that i can make new builds and because i would really like to seem some buffs to some of my favorite classes.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms View Post
Edit1: Not making the boss WTFPWN SF... sigh
The problem isn't really that Dhuum doesn't do anything against SF users, because he kinda does, and players can be given a different skill set with which to truly defeat him anyways.

The problem is that getting to Dhuum is still abusable by SF, and 600/Smite to a degree, and if those players are still at least able to get to Dhuum, ANet has accomplished nothing.

Carboplatin

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A

guess it'll be a while till i see this boss.

their way of fixing UW was making it even harder for balanced group, or so it appears.

the 4H and ice waste first, now this. great.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

I'm busy laughing at people offering 250e+ on the new mini..

Never buy something newly released unless you plan on keeping it.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maybe I'll actually be able to get a group by tonight. ><

flapjack

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

Guild With No [NAM???]

N/Me

The scythe is a gold r9 that comes with strength and honor inscription. It can be modded etc.

Sorry but I don't typically read or post on Guru so I didn't know that the stats were in question.