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Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

20 Nov 2009 at 17:34 - 201

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

I'm busy laughing at people offering 250e+ on the new mini..

Never buy something newly released unless you plan on keeping it.

which one? mini smite or mini dhuum?

mini dhuum should be as hard to get or harder to get as mini ghostly, but seeing as people have ALREADY gotten it, doesnt seem that way

should be as rare as mini polar bear drop from wintersday chest or at least nearly as rare

.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

20 Nov 2009 at 17:45 - 202

Mobway is a panacea for bad players, it's not a speedclear. Elite-less critscythes traveling together like a balanced team, dealing 2/3rds damage just because your monks are bad and/or you can't find an imba? OK.

If 600/Smite can figure this out, then we're talking.

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

20 Nov 2009 at 17:49 - 203

So, ANet had a good look at SF and decided that the rewards for this particularly hard way of playing the game simply weren't good enough for the skill and investment players were making to run SF.

This new update to add more nice rewards to the underworld should go some way to address this problem. Sould SF sins continue to struggle in the game then I am sure more will be done to help the plight of this group of players.

Tramp

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

20 Nov 2009 at 17:54 - 204

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fay Vert

So, ANet had a good look at SF and decided that the rewards for this particularly hard way of playing the game simply weren't good enough for the skill and investment players were making to run SF.

This new update to add more nice rewards to the underworld should go some way to address this problem. Should SF sins continue to struggle in the game then I am sure more will be done to help the plight of this group of players.

Lol. The understated sarcasm deserves a +1 from me. So true...

Vazze

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

20 Nov 2009 at 18:01 - 205

Am I the only one who finds it amusing that the update supposed to " nerf " perma in the uw was completed by a ( and as much as I see from this thread, that is the only team so far?) F u l l SF team? lol?

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

20 Nov 2009 at 18:13 - 206

there were 2 monks in the team ;-)

Kha

Sins FTW!

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Angel Sharks [AS]

20 Nov 2009 at 18:20 - 207

It's cool that they put Dhuum in the game for lore reasons. Other than that, putting him at the end of clearing UW is dull and I don't really have any desire to fight him. Oh well, no ugly scythe for me *cry cry*

Maybe they'll add Menzies at the end of FoW in a few months when they need another way to keep the game alive...

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

20 Nov 2009 at 18:27 - 208

So you need a full team and have to enter in HM to access this quest? And then you need to complete all the other quests to get to it? For me and others with little time on our hands this is a big o punch to the nuts.

WTB Run 20- ? k need to AFK for a few minutes.

Believe me the Sin runs will be coming.

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

20 Nov 2009 at 18:32 - 209

[QUOTE=Painbringer;4948807]So you need a full team and have to enter in HM to access this quest? /QUOTE]

Don't even think of the quest. Its normal UWSC but when you beat Dhuum you can talk to the ice king to get your 100 tot reward. Only diff between people with the quest and those without is you can tak to king for a reward.

Jensy

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

N/Mo

20 Nov 2009 at 18:33 - 210

You don't have to do this in HM.

You just need to do all of the quests in either mode.

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

20 Nov 2009 at 18:38 - 211

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jensy

You don't have to do this in HM.

You just need to do all of the quests in either mode.

You don't even need to have done the other quests. Just needed to talk to steward if you want the reward.

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

20 Nov 2009 at 18:52 - 212

Although many people assumed this was leading up to a UWSC nerf and/or a SF nerf, nothing was ever said that those would be dealt with. Anet has said they were looking into it, and that it was on their 'to do list', but they never said when or how they would do it. Am I happy they gave UW some new stuff? Absolutely. Am I happy they made Speed Clear the preferred method to do it? Not one bit.

I'm still expecting a nerf to Shadow Form, but I don't expect it this year, or even to be done well. Most likely it will be nerfed after Wintersday and cause more problems than it is supposed to fix.

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

20 Nov 2009 at 18:53 - 213

Has anyone else noticed the announcement of the update on the login screen? An interesting development, particularly after the communication failures over the Halloween quests.

AlsPals

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Sellin hot stock tips for pro[fit]

Me/E

20 Nov 2009 at 18:54 - 214

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Although many people assumed this was leading up to a UWSC nerf and/or a SF nerf, nothing was ever said that those would be dealt with. Anet has said they were looking into it, and that it was on their 'to do list', but they never said when or how they would do it. Am I happy they gave UW some new stuff? Absolutely. Am I happy they made Speed Clear the preferred method to do it? Not one bit.

I'm still expecting a nerf to Shadow Form, but I don't expect it this year, or even to be done well. Most likely it will be nerfed after Wintersday and cause more problems than it is supposed to fix.

Yea, the system is furbared. Why do in 4 hours what you can do 4 times in an hour or less?

beanerman_99

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the clouds

[Sage]

E/

20 Nov 2009 at 19:55 - 215

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fay Vert

So, ANet had a good look at SF and decided that the rewards for this particularly hard way of playing the game simply weren't good enough for the skill and investment players were making to run SF.

This new update to add more nice rewards to the underworld should go some way to address this problem. Sould SF sins continue to struggle in the game then I am sure more will be done to help the plight of this group of players.

Awesome! I came to say something similar. So Shadow Form was causing such a problem that instead of just getting rid of it or even nerfing it some they now make the rewards for using Shadow Form Sins even greater? lol Seriously?

Am I missing something here? What the Freak are you guys at Anet thinking? Seriously...I think this behavior needs some sort of official Anet explanation. I have always had faith that Anet does the right thing when it comes to running Guild Wars, but this just makes me shake my head and wonder about how Guild Wars 2 will end up.

headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

20 Nov 2009 at 20:03 - 216

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlsPals

Yea, the system is furbared. Why do in 4 hours what you can do 4 times in an hour or less?

Monster skills for gimmick builds, update de go go!!

KingXelas

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2008

Doom Legend

D/Mo

20 Nov 2009 at 20:09 - 217

I cant' just open the game it finish download then crashes. Arghhh. It was just after this update.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

20 Nov 2009 at 20:37 - 218

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painbringer

So you need a full team and have to enter in HM to access this quest? And then you need to complete all the other quests to get to it? For me and others with little time on our hands this is a big o punch to the nuts.

WTB Run 20- ? k need to AFK for a few minutes.

Believe me the Sin runs will be coming.

No they won't. UWSC kinda need every player to actually do something.

And... wah wah "it takes effort and time to do an elite area." If you can't find 3 hours in one weekend to play a game... bull.

Edit: @ Mirfrost: Your thread was deleted because the Dhurram skills that were listed on the wiki had been found in the Guild Wars .dat file over 3 weeks ago. Your title about "Dhumm coming soon" wasn't true per se... it was just a lucky guess that he came the next day. We already knew he was coming. We had already known those skills, your thread proved nothing and was slightly misleading. Thus it was removed.

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

20 Nov 2009 at 20:52 - 219

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

No they won't. UWSC kinda need every player to actually do something.

And... wah wah "it takes effort and time to do an elite area." If you can't find 3 hours in one weekend to play a game... bull.

I have two little mesmers at home one is a level 2 and the other is a level 5 and they are the best intrupters in the game. I am lucky to get a 2 window to play at a time. Not tring to QQ too much but was really hoping for more of a solo quest. My computer does not mind if I walk away in mid play but a team of humans may get a little pissed.

(And Malice they have a smite crawler going for 230E in the highend already)

Jebus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium

Legion of Sacred Light [LSL]

W/

20 Nov 2009 at 21:18 - 220

Uhh, so another quest I'll never be able to finish on my warrior

Mort Mythoryk

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

Houston, Tx

Wracked With Indecision [iffy]

N/

20 Nov 2009 at 21:22 - 221

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painbringer

My computer does not mind if I walk away in mid play but a team of humans may get a little pissed.

Then why play a cooperative MMO? Play Dragon Age or Oblivion.

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

20 Nov 2009 at 21:23 - 222

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jebus

Uhh, so another quest I'll never be able to finish on my warrior

I share you pain.
I took the quest on my Warrior pain too.

I still need a confirmation if Dhuum can be knocked down. Maybe this isn't as hard as we all think as a hammer warrior could just stun lock him

niek2004

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Afk in Gh.

Old N Dirty[ym] Good Tactics[Good]

P/Rt

20 Nov 2009 at 21:25 - 223

If this is the "content update" I will be seriously dissapointed.

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

20 Nov 2009 at 21:26 - 224

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kain Fz

I still need a confirmation if Dhuum can be knocked down. Maybe this isn't as hard as we all think as a hammer warrior could just stun lock him

If you bring Earthbind any foe can be KD'd. (including shiro etc)

Noghi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/

20 Nov 2009 at 21:42 - 225

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mort Mythoryk

Then why play a cooperative MMO? Play Dragon Age or Oblivion.

Because it is fun and what sold it for me was that I could play with people or by myself

Mr.H.Mishima

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Summit of Human Evolution

W/

20 Nov 2009 at 21:44 - 226

Can't be KD'd normally and conditions don't affect him either. Hexes stick though. H/H'd with a friend, we were a sliver away from him being rebound on our first try at him. He was a Rit with 2 rit heroes and a RoJ, and I run a W (NOT HB) and a Discord team.

Inferno Link

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

E/R

20 Nov 2009 at 21:50 - 227

Does anyone know if this quest will go away or will stay? I've just recently started up GW so sorry if this has been answered or seems dumb.

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

20 Nov 2009 at 22:10 - 228

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inferno Link

Does anyone know if this quest will go away or will stay? I've just recently started up GW so sorry if this has been answered or seems dumb.

The "quest" is the halloween quest which once taken can't be taken again.

Dhuum is here to stay.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

20 Nov 2009 at 22:25 - 229

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mort Mythoryk

Then why play a cooperative MMO? Play Dragon Age or Oblivion.

Because Guild Wars has always been designed as a game that can be played with AI. Look at the back cover of your Prophecies box if you don't believe me.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

20 Nov 2009 at 22:46 - 230

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Because Guild Wars has always been designed as a game that can be played with AI

Nitpicking but henchmen didn't exist until rather late in proph's development... and AIs were never allowed in UW until heroes.

Nightfall was when the dev team really decided that GW should be a single player game.

Joe Fierce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Disconnect the fascination

LF High End PvE Guild that's not filled with elitists.

R/

20 Nov 2009 at 22:51 - 231

Incredibly broken way to clear uw and dhuum that even people with focus problems can do now posted in the farming section, enjoy.

Earth

Always Outnumbered

Join Date: Jul 2006

20 Nov 2009 at 22:54 - 232

Can someone tell me what this Ghastly Summoning Stone summons? With a screenshot if possible.

Thanks.

Joe Fierce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Disconnect the fascination

LF High End PvE Guild that's not filled with elitists.

R/

20 Nov 2009 at 22:56 - 233

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earth

Can someone tell me what this Ghastly Summoning Stone summons? With a screenshot if possible.

Thanks.

Banished dream rider.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

20 Nov 2009 at 22:57 - 234

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxBat

Nitpicking but henchmen didn't exist until rather late in proph's development... and AIs were never allowed in UW until heroes.

Cool story, bro. You might have noticed I said it has always been designed as a game that can be played with AI, not that that particular feature was in at the very start of development.

You might have, but apparently you didn't.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

20 Nov 2009 at 23:09 - 235

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Cool story, bro. You might have noticed I said it has always been designed as a game that can be played with AI, not that that particular feature was in at the very start of development.

The point was they hadn't planned on henchmen. Explorable areas were solo-only, you couldn't even party in them.

Anduin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge

W/

20 Nov 2009 at 23:21 - 236

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxBat

The point was they hadn't planned on henchmen. Explorable areas were solo-only, you couldn't even party in them.

... That just added to the argument about this not being a multiplayer game.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

20 Nov 2009 at 23:25 - 237

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxBat

The point was they hadn't planned on henchmen. Explorable areas were solo-only, you couldn't even party in them.

But they did plan on henchmen, or they wouldn't have been in at release.

You make the mistake of taking a game's first few concepts and thinking that's the entire design process.

Chocobo1

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

New Zealand

CoA

N/

20 Nov 2009 at 23:59 - 238

I want that scythe, other than that I really don't care. Still, no skill balanced means no point logging in anyway, so I guess thats going to be two months from now.

bryann380

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Mo/

21 Nov 2009 at 00:00 - 239

I have to do all the normal Underworld quests to complete the Waiting Game quest??

.....who came up with that stupid idea? Festival quests are supposed to be easy and fun. This ruins it. [goes to delete WG quest from log]

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

21 Nov 2009 at 00:19 - 240

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryann380

I have to do all the normal Underworld quests to complete the Waiting Game quest??

.....who came up with that stupid idea? Festival quests are supposed to be easy and fun. This ruins it. [goes to delete WG quest from log]

You mean that fun little quest that rewards 5k worth of gold?

I mean, come on. I'll say it again, it was OBVIOUS that that was going to be a hard quest, likely involving the defeat of Dhumm.