Noticed the third dialog option at the NPC? Noticed how the ArenaNet explanation of costumes is using the word "currently"?
Today you can buy them, another time they might be free, they can be attached to anything really from chests to Zaishen coins. Every time somebody will be angry, but one thing should be sure: you can't sell them if you started giving them out for free from the beginning. But if they started out as paid dlc, then we are far more willing to accept mixed forms of distribution.
In a nutshell, this is minipet v2.0 after minipets have grown somewhat old.
New In-Game Store Item - Limited Edition Wintersday Costume Pack
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Minami
It's very clear here:
"Each costume costs $6.99 (€5.99/£3.99) singly, but for a limited time (until January 17, 2010) we're offering both costumes for $9.99 (€8.99/£5.99)."
http://www.guildwars.com/gameplay/lo...tems/costumes/
"Each costume costs $6.99 (€5.99/£3.99) singly, but for a limited time (until January 17, 2010) we're offering both costumes for $9.99 (€8.99/£5.99)."
http://www.guildwars.com/gameplay/lo...tems/costumes/
Neo Nugget
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It's very clear here:
"Each costume costs $6.99 (€5.99/£3.99) singly, but for a limited time (until January 17, 2010) we're offering both costumes for $9.99 (€8.99/£5.99)." http://www.guildwars.com/gameplay/lo...tems/costumes/ |
Minami
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Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
Ah, so they're always going to be available at $6.99 each, but it's the pack that's only for a limited time. The way I was reading it made it sound like they the costumes themselves were only available for a few weeks.
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They might also do some kind of sale who knows when on the individual costumes that would make them cost less than the pack right now.
I'm still debating whether to buy them or not. I really like them both, they'd fit my necro perfectly.
If there will be a Margonite costume someday, that's insta-buy for me though.
infymys
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In a nutshell, this is minipet v2.0 after minipets have grown somewhat old.
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EternalTempest
NCSoft wants to make more money with GuildWars, yet Guildwars is designed for Skill > Grind, so I can see why NCSoft/Anet be adding cosmetic things you can buy in the store.
Targren
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you can't sell them if you started giving them out for free from the beginning. But if they started out as paid dlc, then we are far more willing to accept mixed forms of distribution.
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Originally Posted by infymys
Grenth costume without the headpiece looks like a ripoff of Darth Revan.
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Originally Posted by EternalTempest
NCSoft wants to make more money with GuildWars, yet Guildwars is designed for Skill > Grind, so I can see why NCSoft/Anet be adding cosmetic things you can buy in the store.
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mrvrod
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Originally Posted by EternalTempest
NCSoft wants to make more money with GuildWars, yet Guildwars is designed for Skill > Grind, so I can see why NCSoft/Anet be adding cosmetic things you can buy in the store.
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Clobimon
still don't like the hub-bub referring to skill > time. That was always more or completely directed at the pvp side of the game. In which case it pretty much holds true. At any rate, looking at all parts of the game, there isn't that great of an advantage in GW if you've played 10,000 hours over someone that's only played 300 hours. Think of possible real advantages that could exist to equal time > skill... Anyway, I excuse myself from that.
Regarding costumes again. Think about this - They changed the UI to include costume slots. Do we all truly believe that they did that for just two costumes (per gender)? I really wouldn't be surprised if additionals aren't added at some point. This is also to say that it's possible that upcoming events could be costumes in lieu of hats. Maybe these first two sets will eventually become the sets or some of the sets that can only be attained through purchase while some are available as event items. It is possible.
Regarding costumes again. Think about this - They changed the UI to include costume slots. Do we all truly believe that they did that for just two costumes (per gender)? I really wouldn't be surprised if additionals aren't added at some point. This is also to say that it's possible that upcoming events could be costumes in lieu of hats. Maybe these first two sets will eventually become the sets or some of the sets that can only be attained through purchase while some are available as event items. It is possible.
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by Gift3d
horrible, thoughtless, arrogant, unsupported statement. but unlike you i'm gonna tell you WHY you're 100% wrong.
if i don't like the way the game is going, i'm going to express my opinion about it, whether you or anybody else likes it or not. but see, the thing is, i'm gonna give valid reasons behind my opinion because that's what a discussion is about. that's what you do on forums, you discuss things. and discussions aren't reserved for endless praise and smiley faces, they're for shouting your voice and discussing ideas and opinions, whether good or bad. forums 101 you can thank me later. not playing a game because you don't like one feature in it is just about the most senseless and irrational thing i think i've ever heard, just think about what you're saying for ONE second and you'd save yourself lots of embarrassment. |
Don't like it, don't buy it.
Don't like the way the game is going, don't play it.
Self explanatory really I thought.
As for the the little troll attempt, you're well off the mark there. I just post what I think. Nothing more, nothing less. Disagree if you wish, as that's your given right. Try to assume less though, it'll save you from looking the fool.
Happy holidays.
mrvrod
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Originally Posted by Clobimon
Regarding costumes again. Think about this - They changed the UI to include costume slots. Do we all truly believe that they did that for just two costumes (per gender)? I really wouldn't be surprised if additionals aren't added at some point. This is also to say that it's possible that upcoming events could be costumes in lieu of hats. Maybe these first two sets will eventually become the sets or some of the sets that can only be attained through purchase while some are available as event items. It is possible.
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Of course this could all be wishful thinking on my part. I mean, they landed me on the dock pretty quick, so maybe they'll be like "Hey! Sell 'em all!"
w00t!
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Originally Posted by mrvrod
skill over grind?! Maybe in the beginning, but now it's "HM and Titles and Rep-Skills, Oh MY!"
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The closest is probably PvE skills, but you can still reach reasonable levels through normal game play (since they changed PvE scaling a while back).
Shadowhaze
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Originally Posted by infymys
Grenth costume without the headpiece looks like a ripoff of Darth Revan.
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Abedeus
I wonder how much time they wasted on this instead of a skill balance.
mrvrod
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Originally Posted by Abedeus
I wonder how much time they wasted on this instead of a skill balance.
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Has anyone else noticed that the dye colors of the costumes do not match what is shown on the character selection screen? White shows up as black, pink as green, red as a dark blue. I'm no artist, are these like inverse or complimentary colors or something?
Ravious
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Originally Posted by mrvrod
Try as they might, the artists couldn't craft a skill balance.
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shoyon456
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Originally Posted by mrvrod
Try as they might, the artists couldn't craft a skill balance.
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My problem rests in the direction of GW and microtransactions and how they continually put their resources into this instead of the skill balance which will be 2 months past their "schedule" once we finally get it.
carbajac
I bought it, seemed fair to support the game that I've been playing for so long. Bought an extra slot too, seemed worth it.
Jecht Scye
Dear ArenaNet,
Your ridiculous price for armor that should (and would have been in the past) be free is laughable. You will not receive ten dollars from me and if Guild Wars 2 shows signs of the same bull-<fecal matter>, you will not receive that money from me either. Recently, you've posted the Guild Wars trilogy for $15.00 USD at Best Buy (source). Is this costume price an implication that this set of pixels is equal to the worth of two campaigns in their entirety? A bold decision. Luckily, I'm sure some of the fist biters of this community will oblige you and purchase the exorbitantly overpriced content.
Your friend,
Jecht Scye
Your ridiculous price for armor that should (and would have been in the past) be free is laughable. You will not receive ten dollars from me and if Guild Wars 2 shows signs of the same bull-<fecal matter>, you will not receive that money from me either. Recently, you've posted the Guild Wars trilogy for $15.00 USD at Best Buy (source). Is this costume price an implication that this set of pixels is equal to the worth of two campaigns in their entirety? A bold decision. Luckily, I'm sure some of the fist biters of this community will oblige you and purchase the exorbitantly overpriced content.
Your friend,
Jecht Scye
mrvrod
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Originally Posted by Jecht Scye
Dear ArenaNet,
Your ridiculous price for armor that should (and would have been in the past) be free is laughable. You will not receive ten dollars from me and if Guild Wars 2 shows signs of the same bull-<fecal matter>, you will not receive that money from me either. Recently, you've posted the Guild Wars trilogy for $15.00 USD at Best Buy (source). Is this costume price an implication that this set of pixels is equal to the worth of two campaigns in their entirety? A bold decision. Luckily, I'm sure some of the fist biters of this community will oblige you and purchase the exorbitantly overpriced content. Your friend, Jecht Scye |
Crystal Lake
Well, no complaints from me. I bought the set for my nephew; he will love it. 
I don't have a problem with the extras things that cost money as these things don't affect the actual game play, they are just for fun. Extra storage, character changes are all things players were asking for and they got it, but you don't need it, so what's the problem really?
I don't have a problem with the extras things that cost money as these things don't affect the actual game play, they are just for fun. Extra storage, character changes are all things players were asking for and they got it, but you don't need it, so what's the problem really?
Rocky Raccoon
Those who don't like it don't buy, it's that simple.
Skyy High
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That is not the issue here. The issue here is that ANet prefers to release "costumes" for almost the same price campaigns are now and they are not working on any campaign/real content for their money.
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Originally Posted by Jecht
Your ridiculous price for armor that should (and would have been in the past) be free is laughable. You will not receive ten dollars from me and if Guild Wars 2 shows signs of the same bull-<fecal matter>, you will not receive that money from me either. Recently, you've posted the Guild Wars trilogy for $15.00 USD at Best Buy (source). Is this costume price an implication that this set of pixels is equal to the worth of two campaigns in their entirety? A bold decision. Luckily, I'm sure some of the fist biters of this community will oblige you and purchase the exorbitantly overpriced content.
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Comparing these to a campaign is even sillier than people comparing a skill slot or storage slot to a campaign, and that by itself was a pretty silly argument.
Aleta
I love appearance armor and all that fluff. I'd really hope to see alot of it 
I got hacked but like when in RL we were robbed - life goes on.
So I'm going to take a chance when I get home and go into the store
and hope I get only costumes and not a nasty bug. If I lose and get hacked then it will be over and uninstall is next.
I used to have so much faith in NC Soft so maybe just maybe it will be ok
I got hacked but like when in RL we were robbed - life goes on.
So I'm going to take a chance when I get home and go into the store
and hope I get only costumes and not a nasty bug. If I lose and get hacked then it will be over and uninstall is next. I used to have so much faith in NC Soft so maybe just maybe it will be ok
w00t!
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P.S. Thank you for the free ability to wear a festival hat and still keep on all of my armor.
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Targren
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Originally Posted by Burst Cancel
Listen up, you shit-faced morons.
All of you flaming tardnuggets complaining about the costume pack (and microtrans in general) should be thankful. People who buy these things are subsidizing your gaming experience, and unlike many other "free" MMOs, the things you can buy for GW don't actually affect in-game performance. These microtransactions allow you to play for free on someone else's dime, so seriously, shut the hell up already. |
*The ability to wear hats and not lose headgear bonuses. This is good, sure. Hardly worth it, though, for 2 years of waiting.
*One new zone so that we can pretend GW is actually pokemon
*A few NPCs that serve to, basically, try and tell us to go do everything we've already done. AGAIN.
*A weekly reward for farming, even though "Anet didn't intend the game to be farmed" according to the constant whining of nitwits on this forum.
*Lame changes and mobs added to a useless-except-for-farming "elite" area to appease the aforementioned nitwits.
*More not-so-micro-transaction junk.
So yeah, I'll trade all of those in for Anet to lose the "pay real money for fake crap" business model (And I refuse to call it "microtransaction" until the transactions are actually @#$! "micro").
So, stop fanboying so hard and (to coin a phrase), "shut the hell up already"
[0]Admittedly, there are some exceptions, but they are still exceptions. The median is still far below "passable"
Chasing Squirrels
I would pay money for something like the bonus mission pack again but not this
I have not played WoW in like 2 years but I bet you that they are still constantly getting updates and expansions. How many people are working on GW I am not sure but I heard it was as low as 3.
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Originally Posted by Voltaic Ectoplasm
That doesn't make sence..... at all.... They have let us play free for almost 5 years.. and they would like the odd 6 pounds just for a little something.....
Look at WoW look at how much money they draw in per month its like scamming :P So stop Q.Qing and thank urselves lucky that GW is F2P Blizzard reel in probably tripple *Maybe even more* the ammount Plaync do.. |
Turbo Ginsu
The thing that irritates me, is the amount of "dedicated" GW players that rant about how they paid 50 dollars for the campaigns and Gw:EN, and then go on to whine about a measly $10..
I question your "dedication".
In Australia, GW Goty cost me $89-. Factions cost me $89-. Nightfall cost me $100-, GW:EN, another $50. Oh did I mention I had to buy em all for the wife too?
$656au total. Then there was the 3 extra toon slots each, and 3 more storage panes each..
Why whine so hard about $10? FFS, they unlocked your festival headgear to use anywhere, anytime, in an even better way than I had envisaged. Stop whining! That alone, as I said before, is PURE gold!
GG on this one(again) aNet!
I question your "dedication".
In Australia, GW Goty cost me $89-. Factions cost me $89-. Nightfall cost me $100-, GW:EN, another $50. Oh did I mention I had to buy em all for the wife too?
$656au total. Then there was the 3 extra toon slots each, and 3 more storage panes each..
Why whine so hard about $10? FFS, they unlocked your festival headgear to use anywhere, anytime, in an even better way than I had envisaged. Stop whining! That alone, as I said before, is PURE gold!
GG on this one(again) aNet!
Hyaon
One thing I want to know thats not in faq, is it possible to buy the key from the gw shop for a friend as I read the competition creators stating they'll give keys to the winners.
Jecht Scye
Gee, It would appear as though I touched a nerve.
I fail to see where this has anything to do with the costume content. Are you asking me if I think "makeovers" and "character slots" should be worth as much? Character slots, yes - as they add quite a bit of additional playing experience to the game and allow me to experience PvE as a profession that I otherwise would not have been able to. It adds hours of playing time. Makeovers/Namechanges, no - I should not have to pay that much for a simple database change. Also, it's not silly to compare these things to campaigns at all - two campaigns not only have more content in a quantifiable manner, but also a qualitative manner.
Subsidizing my gaming experience? Purchasing these lame items could hurt my experience. Why, you ask? More micro-transactions (like this one) accounts for 1/3rd to 1/5th of an entire campaign price when it's new. If this trend is continued in the future, what is ArenaNet's incentive to continue making new Chapters priced at $50.00 when they can receive 1/5th of that by making a couple costumes? I was more than content to continue to fork over money for a Nightfall-sized campaign every six months instead.
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It's the same price as a skill slot or a storage panel. It's also less than the makeover packs. Are you really saying that any of those is "bigger" than a campaign? No, of course not; campaigns are cheap because the game has been out forever and no one would buy it at $40 per game anymore, and these things are $10 because they're cosmetic little trinkets and they're obviously worth it to some people.
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Originally Posted by Burst Cancel
Listen up, you shit-faced morons.
All of you flaming tardnuggets complaining about the costume pack (and microtrans in general) should be thankful. People who buy these things are subsidizing your gaming experience, and unlike many other "free" MMOs, the things you can buy for GW don't actually affect in-game performance. These microtransactions allow you to play for free on someone else's dime, so seriously, shut the hell up already. |
Kerwyn Nasilan
Oh the grenth one does indeed look badass, but I will not be paying 10$ not a fan of the micro transactions ANet, not really.
Daesu
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Purchasing these lame items could hurt my experience. Why, you ask? More micro-transactions (like this one) accounts for 1/3rd to 1/5th of an entire campaign price when it's new. If this trend is continued in the future, what is ArenaNet's incentive to continue making new Chapters priced at $50.00 when they can receive 1/5th of that by making a couple costumes?
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The good thing about micro transactions is, they are entirely optional. You can still play the game without buying them. Subscriptions are not.
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If I am NCSoft, I will see which business model from the different studios would earn more revenue and make decisions from there. Note that is the current reality in the gaming world.
Shadowmere
No matter how you price something like this people are going to whine it's too expensive. And while I agree that the costumes are a tad on the expensive side for something purely cosmetic, I must say I have no regrets buying em.
Forgive me for continuing to support the company that brought us this game that's had many enjoying it for four years running.
Forgive me for continuing to support the company that brought us this game that's had many enjoying it for four years running.
Rushin Roulette
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"Cost pennies to produce"? No... We had several artists working long hours to create and implement these costumes, not to mention the other team members who were involved in making this happen. We actually do pay our staff.
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Hyaon
Strikes me as odd, that it's xmas and can't buy these keys as gifts for friends to add..*hint hint anet*
Kaleban
Since when did $10, or 1/5th the price of a FULL PC game become defined as a "micro-transaction??"
I wasn under the impression that "micro" meant small, not "just enough to start a huge flame war on GWGuru..."
I've seen micro-transactions with other games, notably Oblivion, and it must be said that most of those required MUCH more texture work and programming than two costumes based on the generic male and female character models.
Truth be told, the prices on most of the "micro transactions" in NCSoft's store are anything BUT "micro" not to mention the risk of losing your entire account and the micro stuff you buy due to the massive security holes in their system.
I wasn under the impression that "micro" meant small, not "just enough to start a huge flame war on GWGuru..."
I've seen micro-transactions with other games, notably Oblivion, and it must be said that most of those required MUCH more texture work and programming than two costumes based on the generic male and female character models.
Truth be told, the prices on most of the "micro transactions" in NCSoft's store are anything BUT "micro" not to mention the risk of losing your entire account and the micro stuff you buy due to the massive security holes in their system.
revelation
The option to use our old and new masks only for appearance and keep armor and stats really cheered me up! I wish that it was available earlier while I was still playing this game more often, but it's still nice.
As stated on guildwars.com, masks can't be used in PvP, but you can use old masks without armor in PvP. So, I will have to use old masks in Snowball Arena to have holiday look?
As stated on guildwars.com, masks can't be used in PvP, but you can use old masks without armor in PvP. So, I will have to use old masks in Snowball Arena to have holiday look?
Sjeng
If they had priced both together like €0,99 / $1,49 I bet all players would have bought the complete set, and Anet would have made more money then they will now.
And THAT would have been a legit "microtransaction".
This is waaaay too expensive, but *sigh* I want em badly :P
I'm just afraid they'll add too much costumes @ €5,99 each from now on. I'll hate that.
And THAT would have been a legit "microtransaction".
This is waaaay too expensive, but *sigh* I want em badly :P
I'm just afraid they'll add too much costumes @ €5,99 each from now on. I'll hate that.
Jecht Scye
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That is very little money for too much work. Aion can earn about twice that every six months from each player. And they can do that with just adding some new content here and there rather than having to churn out a full campaign every six months.
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If the price where more like what Sjeng proposes, I would be less concerned about the matter, and simply would not buy it.