Update - Thursday, February 25, 2010
DeVerseBakker
Thank you for this update Arenanet I really love it. It's sad seeing 600/SMITE go but atleast we can still tank with 600. Which is good and good riddance for SF being gone.. Counting the minutes till a new SC is born though.. won't be as fast but it shouldn't take that long till it's here
Shayne Hawke
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Originally Posted by vandevere
All I hope is that, with all the farming nerfs, that Anet ups the reward for taking the time to do those elite area...
Even though I never actually used all those farm builds, I could kinda see the point. I mean, if all you're gonna get at the end is a gem, and maybe a shoddy gold item, why not Speed clear? If you're going to enforce longer times by bombing speed clear builds, at least Make the added time and effort worth it!!! Ahem...  |
Arkantos
To everyone who called others stupid/dumb/elitist assholes/whatever for saying SF was going to get nerfed:
I hate (by hate I mean love) to say it, but we told you so.
I hate (by hate I mean love) to say it, but we told you so.
Painbringer
rit lord is back
And mr youtube box burner... use some gas or something 6 min dang that's slow
And mr youtube box burner... use some gas or something 6 min dang that's slow
Winterclaw
Okay on the changes:
Sassis - IDC about the SF change either way. Moving SA was probably a good thing.
Dervish - Meh
Mesmers - Needed PvE buffing a little, I'm not bothered by the PB change.
Monks - Meh
Necros - needed nerfing not tweaking/slight buffing.
Paragons - Meh
Rangers - Meh
Ritualists - not bad the changes are ok
Warrior - Tactics has improved a little and I might use it a little to try things out (I really like the improvement to Thrill of Victory and the shout changes make the soldier's skills usable again), however I'm still probably not going to use hammers much in PvE.
Sassis - IDC about the SF change either way. Moving SA was probably a good thing.
Dervish - Meh
Mesmers - Needed PvE buffing a little, I'm not bothered by the PB change.
Monks - Meh
Necros - needed nerfing not tweaking/slight buffing.
Paragons - Meh
Rangers - Meh
Ritualists - not bad the changes are ok
Warrior - Tactics has improved a little and I might use it a little to try things out (I really like the improvement to Thrill of Victory and the shout changes make the soldier's skills usable again), however I'm still probably not going to use hammers much in PvE.
Kook~NBK~
Buh-bye SF.
Either there's a PvP reason for this, or it's a token PvE Mesmer hate nerf. (Or Both, which is my guess.)
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Banane-O-Man
Well my monk and sin has no more use now rofl. Back to rit and warrior.
I like the hammer update, since I'm primarily a hammer and axe user.
I like the hammer update, since I'm primarily a hammer and axe user.
Frozen Ele
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Originally Posted by Winterclaw
Okay on the changes:
Sassis - IDC about the SF change either way. Moving SA was probably a good thing. Dervish - Meh Mesmers - Needed PvE buffing a little, I'm not bothered by the PB change. Monks - Meh Necros - needed nerfing not tweaking/slight buffing. Paragons - Meh Rangers - Meh Ritualists - not bad the changes are ok Warrior - Tactics has improved a little and I might use it a little to try things out (I really like the improvement to Thrill of Victory and the shout changes make the soldier's skills usable again), however I'm still probably not going to use hammers much in PvE. |
Winterclaw
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Originally Posted by Frozen Ele
Leaving out eles are we?
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Els - meh
fenix
My warrior is going to OWN now. Time to brush off the cobwebs on my hammer collection 
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Originally Posted by Death By An Arrow
the video of the guy burning the box...
that is a little too extreme... yet i feel like he was inspired by the Best Freakout Ever kid. |
Dark Paladin X
Attention everyone! Raptor Farming, Nicholas the Traveler farming, and Boss Farming in HM is now officially impossible.
You can no longer farm:
Good luck trying to find good weapons for your heroes or trying new builds.
Oh yeah, and since Sins are useless outside of perma SF (that prevents both spells and attacks prior to the nerf) and PvP, I'm officially "retiring" my sin.
You can no longer farm:
- Woe Spreader (for your discordway heroes, luckily I manage to get the number of woe spreaders i needed prior to the nerf)
- Raptors
- Scar Eater
- Jayne Forestlight
- Tomton Spiriteater
- Shreader Sharptongue
- Korshek the Immolated
- Eshim Mindclouder
- Birneh Skybringer
- Chor the Bladed
- ecto farming (although that was nerfed earlier with the Skeletons of Dhumm)
- Shakor Firespear
- Jishol Darksong
- (rare) material farming (particularly feathers)
- elite tomes
- any items for Nicholas the Traveler
Good luck trying to find good weapons for your heroes or trying new builds.
Oh yeah, and since Sins are useless outside of perma SF (that prevents both spells and attacks prior to the nerf) and PvP, I'm officially "retiring" my sin.
Gennadios
I love the update notes. Players have been bitches about constant reapplication of Cracked Armor since Agressive Refrain was nerfed.
Only now did they finally hear all the players "raising concerns>"
Only now did they finally hear all the players "raising concerns>"
Banane-O-Man
Can someone tell me how much the ectos are at the rare mat trader now?
Time to take out the good old triple chop axe build
Time to take out the good old triple chop axe build
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Oh yeah, and since Sins are useless outside of perma SF (that prevents both spells and attacks prior to the nerf) and PvP, I'm officially "retiring" my sin.
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Oh, wait..
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Dark Paladin X
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Yeah, assassins can't deal massive single target/AoE damage in PvE or anything.
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I don't have a PvE warrior, but I do have a PvP warrior that is meant for AB. Should I stick with swords, or go with hammers?
Shayne Hawke
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
You can no longer farm:
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Additionally, a number of the things you named on there are probably only limited to Assassins, and that's if you're absolutely not thinking out of the box about any other way you could possibly do it. For example, my Ranger build for farming Raptors is totally untouched by this update.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Yeah, sins are pretty much useless now.
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.HunTer
lol
boring video (._.')
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Btw...I will laugh so much if I see those assassins with names like
X Xx Perma Sin X X
XxX The Perma Xx Xx
Yes,they do exist (not the exact same name,but names with XxX's and "Perma" exist)
boring video (._.')
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Btw...I will laugh so much if I see those assassins with names like
X Xx Perma Sin X X
XxX The Perma Xx Xx
Yes,they do exist
(not the exact same name,but names with XxX's and "Perma" exist)
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Attention everyone! Raptor Farming, Nicholas the Traveler farming, and Boss Farming in HM is now officially impossible.
You can no longer farm:
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any bolded need to be removed...and if your speaking past just sin farming all I can say is lol...
side note: to lazy to go through the list...but....http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Guide:Boss...V_Necromancers can probably cover all the other greens (wait wait wait...people actually use greens?????I feel sorry for them)
makafri
love it thanks arena net, for giving us a more healthy game, at least until a new superbuilds comes to the surface
moriz
wow, did they just buff my shove sin?
Dark Paladin X
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Originally Posted by End
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:A/D_...Blossom_Farmer
any bolded need to be removed...and if your speaking past just sin farming all I can say is lol... |
Basically, you failed.
Ugh
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Originally Posted by Targren
Not with HaO it doesn't.
But I might agree with you if it didn't take pets 4 seconds to change targets. BM has some intriguing elites (one more now), but you can only use 1 and the non-elites combined with pet AI and low speed still make it uninspiring. |
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
To everyone who called others stupid/dumb/elitist assholes/whatever for saying SF was going to get nerfed:
I hate (by hate I mean love) to say it, but we told you so. |
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Originally Posted by .HunTer
Btw...I will laugh so much if I see those assassins with names like
X Xx Perma Sin X X XxX The Perma Xx Xx Yes,they do exist (not the exact same name,but names with XxX's and "Perma" exist) |
mlandry
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Didn't see Woe Spreader in the list (the boss that drops the staves that I normally give to Discordway heroes).
Basically, you failed. |
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Didn't see Woe Spreader in the list (the boss that drops the staves that I normally give to Discordway heroes).
Basically, you failed. |
btw if you really really need it...it can still be easily farmed...just not with your precious assassin...
Dzjudz
Dark Paladin, W/N and E/Me raptor farmers are faster than any A/any raptor farm and are untouched, but ok
The Drunkard
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Attention everyone! Raptor Farming, Nicholas the Traveler farming, and Boss Farming in HM is now officially impossible.
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edit: Arkantos, I love your new sig
Tullzinski
Finally no more SF threads. So what is the next thing everyone will bitch about that needs to get nerfed?
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by The Drunkard
No, they are still possible; they just can't be done by permaform anymore. Raptors can still be done with eles and wars, traveler can be done by rits, and boss farming is still possible with 55 builds.
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PS: Earth shaker animation is pretty badass.
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Originally Posted by Tullzinski
Finally no more SF threads. So what is the next thing everyone will bitch about that needs to get nerfed?
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and yeah es animation is pretty bad ass ain't it?
Dzjudz
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Originally Posted by Tullzinski
Finally no more SF threads.
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Master Ketsu
wait....these are Pve AND pvp buffs?
Because if I am reading this right, some of that stuff can't be good for PvP.
I can already see holy wrath and mark of fury being exploited in some new lame gimmick build.
Because if I am reading this right, some of that stuff can't be good for PvP.
I can already see holy wrath and mark of fury being exploited in some new lame gimmick build.
Shrike942
I'm glad to see shadow form go, but i'm gonna miss 600/smite....
Dark Paladin X
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Pretty sure he's just complaining for the sake of complaining.
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Oh yeah, the 55 build you posted can't protect you from interrupts.
Rampage
So, where are all the perma shitters now? Quite frankly I find it hilarious that SCers bash the shit out of anyone who speaks ill of SF, but when it gets nerfed they're nowhere to be found.
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
I'm not complaining, I'm just telling ya the truth.
Oh yeah, the 55 build you posted can't protect you from interrupts. |
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
I'm not complaining, I'm just telling ya the truth.
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IronSheik
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Good luck trying to find good weapons for your heroes or trying new builds. . |
MpG
how about a pve mesmer buff... ?