Update - Thursday, February 25, 2010
Dark Paladin X
Okay people, just tell me how am I suppose to give my necro heroes staves for the Discordway build. I mean something that can farm Woe Spreader (the only staff that I can think off for my necro heroes).
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Okay people, just tell me how am I suppose to give my necro heroes staves for the Discordway build. I mean something that can farm Woe Spreader (the only staff that I can think off for my necro heroes).
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now just in case you can't tell...he's the one named "Sessk" ok...now then...shoo shoo
timbo_3101
Does anyone have an opinion or on whether UW/4h completion possible in HM anymore without perma?
Please confirm this is no longer possible.
(Have done UW full-clear with 7-player team including duo Rt, but this was in NM, with consets, and prior to SoS nerf, and probably with some luck.)
Please confirm this is no longer possible.
(Have done UW full-clear with 7-player team including duo Rt, but this was in NM, with consets, and prior to SoS nerf, and probably with some luck.)
Shayne Hawke
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Okay people, just tell me how am I suppose to give my necro heroes staves for the Discordway build. I mean something that can farm Woe Spreader (the only staff that I can think off for my necro heroes).
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Dzjudz
Go kill the damn Woe Spreader boss until he drops the friggin staff. Not that hard, there's hardly anything on the way. It's not like you need 200 of those staves am I right? Can you drop that stupid Woe Spreader argument already?
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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
You could just not give your Discord heroes anything, since they don't really need powerful weapons to make the build strong.
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wetwillyhip
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
I'm not complaining, I'm just telling ya the truth.
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Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Okay people, just tell me how am I suppose to give my necro heroes staves for the Discordway build. I mean something that can farm Woe Spreader (the only staff that I can think off for my necro heroes).
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This, for starters. You could also farm for another green, buy another green, buy a random death magic weapon for like 2k, or get a collector weapon. Farming isn't the only way to acquire weapons in this game.
Neo Atomisk
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Okay people, just tell me how am I suppose to give my necro heroes staves for the Discordway build. I mean something that can farm Woe Spreader (the only staff that I can think off for my necro heroes).
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type: wtb death magic staff (any kind), whisp offer
w00t!
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
No, you aren't. If you think permasins were the only builds that could farm raptors, nicholas items, and bosses, you're certainly very, very wrong.
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October Jade
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Originally Posted by timbo_3101
Does anyone have an opinion or on whether UW/4h completion possible in HM anymore without perma?
Please confirm this is no longer possible. |
Zahr Dalsk
Speaking of Ritualists, I've got a feeling 600 rt/smite is going to more the build of choice now, what with Holy Wrath gone and the 600 needing more damage.
Deviant Angel
What's with the QQing about the woe spreader? My necros have been perfectly happy and effective with the hourglass staff. 
Trub
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Originally Posted by October Jade
What would you like, a Youtube clip of someone's party wiping? It's insane to ask for proof that something cannot be done, especially immediately after a skill update. Go try it your damn self and then share the results.
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BlueXIV
I have no idea why everyone thinks permaforming is dead o_o. It's now a 5e solo maintainable skill (without deadly paradox or GoS) with an essence, and it doesn't even reduce your health upon ending. You can most likely do 4h the exact same way, except with stoneflesh instead of BUH. In fact, you could probably do most of UW exactly the same way, except a bit slower because of the 26 damage limit. I won't leak any details yet, but it shouldn't be too hard to do the same run, with some modifications on chambers and wastes for UW, and on the terras for FoW. DoA will same as usual as well <_<, maybe a bit slower.
It'll certainly be a bit harder than before, but seeing how pugs were doing dayway again only a couple months post Dhuum, with a reasonable success chance, I highly doubt anything really killed SCs.
Oh and obby flesh is still quite usable.
It'll certainly be a bit harder than before, but seeing how pugs were doing dayway again only a couple months post Dhuum, with a reasonable success chance, I highly doubt anything really killed SCs.
Oh and obby flesh is still quite usable.
Charlie Dayman
As a primary hammer user, I approve of the new Earthshaker animation.
Banane-O-Man
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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
Speaking of Ritualists, I've got a feeling 600 rt/smite is going to more the build of choice now, what with Holy Wrath gone and the 600 needing more damage.
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For farming ectos you can use w/d or w/me, which one is faster?
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Originally Posted by BlueXIV
I have no idea why everyone thinks permaforming is dead o_o. It's now a 5e solo maintainable skill (without deadly paradox or GoS) with an essence, and it doesn't even reduce your health upon ending. You can most likely do 4h the exact same way, except with stoneflesh instead of BUH. In fact, you could probably do most of UW exactly the same way, except a bit slower because of the 26 damage limit. I won't leak any details yet, but it shouldn't be too hard to do the same run, with some modifications on chambers and wastes for UW, and on the terras for FoW. DoA will same as usual as well <_<, maybe a bit slower.
It'll certainly be a bit harder than before, but seeing how pugs were doing dayway again only a couple months post Dhuum, with a reasonable success chance, I highly doubt anything really killed SCs. Oh and obby flesh is still quite usable. |
btw that guy down there in the active users named " A Poet Named Virgil" reminded me of Virgil
MagmaRed
Gasp.... people will have to learn how to play the game now! Anet should be ashamed of themselves. For not doing it sooner. Shadow Form actually looks like a nice skill to use with a team. Before, the use was limited to pretty much perma unless you wanted to die at the end, or make sure you were well clear. Now, it allows you to not tax your team, and stay safe while still doing some damage. Haven't tested it out, but it looks like a skill that will function well for people working with a balanced team.
Will have to break my Warrior out now too. Haven't used it in a long time, and that hammer is sounding nice.
Will have to break my Warrior out now too. Haven't used it in a long time, and that hammer is sounding nice.
AlsPals
I really hope an SC will come back to the forefront and get posted. This way, we will FINALLY either see this house of cards fall, or someone will realize Elite areas are tedious to the point where only exploitation is recommended. 4 hours trips or an ecto and junk rares is not worth fighting for.
AOD_EaSyKiLL
LOL
How about the new SF, off the top of my head, haven't tested
55 assassin/monk
5 damage reduction per enchant?
DP+SF+PS +another Assassin Enchant (10 damage reduction)
How about the new SF, off the top of my head, haven't tested
55 assassin/monk
5 damage reduction per enchant?
DP+SF+PS +another Assassin Enchant (10 damage reduction)
BlueXIV
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Originally Posted by AOD_EaSyKiLL
LOL
How about the new SF, off the top of my head, haven't tested 55 assassin/monk 5 damage reduction per enchant? DP+SF+PS +another Assassin Enchant (10 damage reduction) |
and @End, ups, maybe I should go edit my post... :|
Banane-O-Man
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Originally Posted by AOD_EaSyKiLL
LOL
How about the new SF, off the top of my head, haven't tested 55 assassin/monk 5 damage reduction per enchant? DP+SF+PS +another Assassin Enchant (10 damage reduction) |
Dark Paladin X
Okay, all I want was a good farming build that can protect me from interrupts and spells and the ruined it.
Now then, sins are now just 100% useless in PvE now. I mean, NOTHING can farm raptors AND get good loot at the same time (and no, W/N 100 blades doesn't count due to the fact that you get crappy drops when compared to permasin build).
Now then, sins are now just 100% useless in PvE now. I mean, NOTHING can farm raptors AND get good loot at the same time (and no, W/N 100 blades doesn't count due to the fact that you get crappy drops when compared to permasin build).
Zahr Dalsk
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Originally Posted by Banane-O-Man
FoW 600/smite won't be possible anymore
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Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Now then, sins are now just 100% useless in PvE now. I mean, NOTHING can farm raptors AND get good loot at the same time (and no, W/N 100 blades doesn't count due to the fact that you get crappy drops when compared to permasin build).
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Dark Saviour
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Okay, all I want was a good farming build that can protect me from interrupts and spells and the ruined it.
Now then, sins are now just 100% useless in PvE now. I mean, NOTHING can farm raptors AND get good loot at the same time (and no, W/N 100 blades doesn't count due to the fact that you get crappy drops when compared to permasin build). |
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Okay, all I want was a good farming build that can protect me from interrupts and spells and the ruined it.
Now then, sins are now just 100% useless in PvE now. I mean, NOTHING can farm raptors AND get good loot at the same time (and no, W/N 100 blades doesn't count due to the fact that you get crappy drops when compared to permasin build). |
Sir Tieger
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Now then, sins are now just 100% useless in PvE now. I mean, NOTHING can farm raptors AND get good loot at the same time (and no, W/N 100 blades doesn't count due to the fact that you get crappy drops when compared to permasin build).
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My Warrior farming a stack of event drops in about 80mins begs to differ.
-Makai-
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Attention everyone! Raptor Farming, Nicholas the Traveler farming, and Boss Farming in HM is now officially impossible.
You can no longer farm:
Good luck trying to find good weapons for your heroes or trying new builds. Oh yeah, and since Sins are useless outside of perma SF (that prevents both spells and attacks prior to the nerf) and PvP, I'm officially "retiring" my sin. |
Trub
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Originally Posted by AlsPals
I really hope an SC will come back to the forefront and get posted. This way, we will FINALLY either see this house of cards fall, or someone will realize Elite areas are tedious to the point where only exploitation is recommended. 4 hours trips or an ecto and junk rares is not worth fighting for.
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OT:
Skill changes are a fact of gaming life guys, roll with the punches...we ALL have a favorite skill that was 'nerfed' at one point or another.
It isn't the end of the game.
There are some amazing young people out there now in GW-land, theory- crafting new, and more powerful builds to mess with.
Admit it...Permas (godmode) was wrong to be in the game as long as it was.
Remember the Ursan fail....and be happy.
MpG
RIP Elite Areas.
Speedclears were not only about records, they were also about fun.
The other important factors were time and outcome.
In pre-perma days uw clears used to take 3h+ (that was without druum and skeles).
Using two overpowered SF sins, the avegare DoA completion time with a good team was 50 min - 1:20h.
Due to personal life I doubt many people will be able to spend non-stop 5 or 6 hours in front of a computer.
Oh and who will bother to waste 2-3h to get 2 ectos ?
Anyway the "speedclear" term can't be used anymore.
Speedclears were not only about records, they were also about fun.
The other important factors were time and outcome.
In pre-perma days uw clears used to take 3h+ (that was without druum and skeles).
Using two overpowered SF sins, the avegare DoA completion time with a good team was 50 min - 1:20h.
Due to personal life I doubt many people will be able to spend non-stop 5 or 6 hours in front of a computer.
Oh and who will bother to waste 2-3h to get 2 ectos ?
Anyway the "speedclear" term can't be used anymore.
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Originally Posted by MpG
RIP Elite Areas.
Speedclears were not only about records, they were also about fun. The other important factors were time and outcome. In pre-perma days uw clears used to take 3h+ (that was without druum and skeles). Using two overpowered SF sins, the avegare DoA completion time with a good team was 50 min - 1:20h. Due to personal life I doubt many people will be able to spend non-stop 5 or 6 hours in front of a computer. Oh and who will bother to waste 2-3h to get 2 ectos ? Anyway the "speedclear" term can't be used anymore. |
Stolen Souls
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Originally Posted by MpG
Anyway the "speedclear" term can't be used anymore.
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Interesting stuff. Definitely have to try out the Hammer stuff tomorrow.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by MpG
In pre-perma days uw clears used to take 3h+ for bad players (that was without dhuum and skeles).
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Shriketalon
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Originally Posted by MpG
Speedclears were not only about records, they were also about fun.
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AOD_EaSyKiLL
SF damage reduction comes before PS.
But a 600 Sin looks possible too, maybe pair with an SS necro, instead of smiter.
But a 600 Sin looks possible too, maybe pair with an SS necro, instead of smiter.
MpG
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Originally Posted by End
Zomg ELITE areas not being able to be done by everyone in a matter of minutes? ohnoes....
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why? Finishing all PvE storyline takes a month, PvP is no longer what it used to be.
gg anet, day by day gw will become more extinct.
Additonaly the diffecence between the rich and the poor will become bigger since most farming builds are gone.
sthpaw
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Originally Posted by AlsPals
I really hope an SC will come back to the forefront and get posted. This way, we will FINALLY either see this house of cards fall, or someone will realize Elite areas are tedious to the point where only exploitation is recommended. 4 hours trips or an ecto and junk rares is not worth fighting for.
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Originally Posted by MpG
For some people the only fun left in this game was completing end-game areas.
why? Finishing all PvE storyline takes a month, PvP is no longer what it used to be. gg anet, day by day gw will become more extinct. Additonaly the diffecence between the rich and the poor will become bigger since most farming builds are gone. |
on that note I need to wake up in a few hours so I am off to bed...enjoy....