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Frost Gate Guardian

Angels of Death

Mo/

Joined Nov 2006

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:28 AM • #101

LOL

How about the new SF, off the top of my head, haven't tested

55 assassin/monk

5 damage reduction per enchant?

DP+SF+PS +another Assassin Enchant (10 damage reduction)

BlueXIV

Wilds Pathfinder

N/

Joined Mar 2006

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:31 AM • #102

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOD_EaSyKiLL

LOL

How about the new SF, off the top of my head, haven't tested

55 assassin/monk

5 damage reduction per enchant?

DP+SF+PS +another Assassin Enchant (10 damage reduction)

bonespike

and @End, ups, maybe I should go edit my post... :|

Banane-O-Man

Krytan Explorer

A/

Joined Jul 2006

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:34 AM • #103

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOD_EaSyKiLL

LOL

How about the new SF, off the top of my head, haven't tested

55 assassin/monk

5 damage reduction per enchant?

DP+SF+PS +another Assassin Enchant (10 damage reduction)

Great idea! Would be better with a SS necro though, sin could dagger chains to deal damage and daze monks in fow :O

Dark Paladin X

Krytan Explorer

A/

Joined Apr 2007

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:38 AM • #104

Okay, all I want was a good farming build that can protect me from interrupts and spells and the ruined it.

Now then, sins are now just 100% useless in PvE now. I mean, NOTHING can farm raptors AND get good loot at the same time (and no, W/N 100 blades doesn't count due to the fact that you get crappy drops when compared to permasin build).

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Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Joined Aug 2007

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:39 AM • #105

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banane-O-Man

FoW 600/smite won't be possible anymore

What. I'm talking about using 600/smite for Vanquishing. Y'know, that really boring activity that 600/smite made fun, particularly for monks, whose normal role in a party interacts badly with hero/hench AI?

Arkantos

The Greatest

W/

Joined Feb 2006

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:39 AM • #106

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

Now then, sins are now just 100% useless in PvE now. I mean, NOTHING can farm raptors AND get good loot at the same time (and no, W/N 100 blades doesn't count due to the fact that you get crappy drops when compared to permasin build).

You can keep thinking that, pal.

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Dark Saviour

Academy Page

Saviours of the Innocent

R/

Joined May 2009

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:40 AM • #107

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

Okay, all I want was a good farming build that can protect me from interrupts and spells and the ruined it.

Now then, sins are now just 100% useless in PvE now. I mean, NOTHING can farm raptors AND get good loot at the same time (and no, W/N 100 blades doesn't count due to the fact that you get crappy drops when compared to permasin build).

Not exactly the best, but mistform sliver says hi.

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Forge Runner

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

Joined Jan 2008

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:41 AM • #108

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

Okay, all I want was a good farming build that can protect me from interrupts and spells and the ruined it.

Now then, sins are now just 100% useless in PvE now. I mean, NOTHING can farm raptors AND get good loot at the same time (and no, W/N 100 blades doesn't count due to the fact that you get crappy drops when compared to permasin build).

thats ok I get my epic leet drops outside of shing jea monastery in normal mode...I swear killing lvl 1's gives you the leetest drops ever...

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Sir Tieger

Academy Page

Jade Reapers [JD]

W/

Joined Apr 2007

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:42 AM • #109

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

Now then, sins are now just 100% useless in PvE now. I mean, NOTHING can farm raptors AND get good loot at the same time (and no, W/N 100 blades doesn't count due to the fact that you get crappy drops when compared to permasin build).

My Warrior farming a stack of event drops in about 80mins begs to differ.

-Makai-

Jungle Guide

DH

Rt/

Joined May 2007

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:42 AM • #110

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

Attention everyone! Raptor Farming, Nicholas the Traveler farming, and Boss Farming in HM is now officially impossible.

You can no longer farm:

Woe Spreader (for your discordway heroes, luckily I manage to get the number of woe spreaders i needed prior to the nerf)
Raptors
Scar Eater
Jayne Forestlight
Tomton Spiriteater
Shreader Sharptongue
Korshek the Immolated
Eshim Mindclouder
Birneh Skybringer
Chor the Bladed
ecto farming (although that was nerfed earlier with the Skeletons of Dhumm)
Shakor Firespear
Jishol Darksong
(rare) material farming (particularly feathers)
elite tomes
any items for Nicholas the Traveler

Good luck trying to find good weapons for your heroes or trying new builds.

Oh yeah, and since Sins are useless outside of perma SF (that prevents both spells and attacks prior to the nerf) and PvP, I'm officially "retiring" my sin.

Moebius Blossom, anyone?

Trub

Jungle Guide

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

Joined Mar 2006

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:43 AM • #111

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlsPals

I really hope an SC will come back to the forefront and get posted. This way, we will FINALLY either see this house of cards fall, or someone will realize Elite areas are tedious to the point where only exploitation is recommended. 4 hours trips or an ecto and junk rares is not worth fighting for.

lawl..Farmageddon!

OT:
Skill changes are a fact of gaming life guys, roll with the punches...we ALL have a favorite skill that was 'nerfed' at one point or another.
It isn't the end of the game.
There are some amazing young people out there now in GW-land, theory- crafting new, and more powerful builds to mess with.
Admit it...Permas (godmode) was wrong to be in the game as long as it was.
Remember the Ursan fail....and be happy.

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MpG

Ascalonian Squire

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Joined Aug 2009

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:45 AM • #112

RIP Elite Areas.

Speedclears were not only about records, they were also about fun.
The other important factors were time and outcome.
In pre-perma days uw clears used to take 3h+ (that was without druum and skeles).
Using two overpowered SF sins, the avegare DoA completion time with a good team was 50 min - 1:20h.
Due to personal life I doubt many people will be able to spend non-stop 5 or 6 hours in front of a computer.
Oh and who will bother to waste 2-3h to get 2 ectos ?

Anyway the "speedclear" term can't be used anymore.

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Forge Runner

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

Joined Jan 2008

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:47 AM • #113

Quote:

Originally Posted by MpG

RIP Elite Areas.

Speedclears were not only about records, they were also about fun.
The other important factors were time and outcome.
In pre-perma days uw clears used to take 3h+ (that was without druum and skeles).
Using two overpowered SF sins, the avegare DoA completion time with a good team was 50 min - 1:20h.
Due to personal life I doubt many people will be able to spend non-stop 5 or 6 hours in front of a computer.
Oh and who will bother to waste 2-3h to get 2 ectos ?

Anyway the "speedclear" term can't be used anymore.

Zomg ELITE areas not being able to be done by everyone in a matter of minutes? ohnoes....

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Joined Feb 2006

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:49 AM • #114

Quote:

Originally Posted by MpG

Anyway the "speedclear" term can't be used anymore.

Thank goodness. :]

Interesting stuff. Definitely have to try out the Hammer stuff tomorrow.

Arkantos

The Greatest

W/

Joined Feb 2006

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:49 AM • #115

Quote:

Originally Posted by MpG

In pre-perma days uw clears used to take 3h+ for bad players (that was without dhuum and skeles).

I had to fix that one statement for you.

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Shriketalon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Joined May 2007

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:54 AM • #116

Quote:

Originally Posted by MpG

Speedclears were not only about records, they were also about fun.

I believe the TF2 Heavy said it best.

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AOD_EaSyKiLL

Frost Gate Guardian

Angels of Death

Mo/

Joined Nov 2006

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:55 AM • #117

SF damage reduction comes before PS.

But a 600 Sin looks possible too, maybe pair with an SS necro, instead of smiter.

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MpG

Ascalonian Squire

E/

Joined Aug 2009

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:55 AM • #118

Quote:

Originally Posted by End

Zomg ELITE areas not being able to be done by everyone in a matter of minutes? ohnoes....

For some people the only fun left in this game was completing end-game areas.
why? Finishing all PvE storyline takes a month, PvP is no longer what it used to be.
gg anet, day by day gw will become more extinct.

Additonaly the diffecence between the rich and the poor will become bigger since most farming builds are gone.

sthpaw

Frost Gate Guardian

Overclockers Australia [OCAU]

W/

Joined Oct 2007

Feb 26, 2010 at 4:56 AM • #119

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlsPals

I really hope an SC will come back to the forefront and get posted. This way, we will FINALLY either see this house of cards fall, or someone will realize Elite areas are tedious to the point where only exploitation is recommended. 4 hours trips or an ecto and junk rares is not worth fighting for.

people keep saying that, but i really hope that will not happen an Elite area should be an Elite area where it should not be cleared in under 1hr with a average joe team people should just learn to play properly.

End

Forge Runner

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

Joined Jan 2008

Feb 26, 2010 at 5:00 AM • #120

Quote:

Originally Posted by MpG

For some people the only fun left in this game was completing end-game areas.
why? Finishing all PvE storyline takes a month, PvP is no longer what it used to be.
gg anet, day by day gw will become more extinct.

Additonaly the diffecence between the rich and the poor will become bigger since most farming builds are gone.

Then complete them :P if not then /uninstall...please...

on that note I need to wake up in a few hours so I am off to bed...enjoy....