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Originally Posted by MisterB
The difference between a new player who is inexperienced and wants to join a group in UW and the kind of player the OP is talking about is the players the OP is talking about are liars or idiots.
Lying about your build and experience just wastes everyone's time and the entry fee the party has to pay to admit you to UW. Someone who lies about their experience stands a very good chance of causing a wipe because they can't ask what they are supposed to do, and can easily cause a wipe doing the wrong thing.
Idiots who don't listen also cause wipes by taking the wrong quest too early or leeroying into Aatxe and dragging them back into the party.
Both cases can easily be solved by acquiring knowledge of the area, foes, and quests, and communicating your inexperience to the group and asking for direction. Groups that aren't doing speed clears or what not shouldn't have a problem accommodating a request from a new player who is willing to listen.
A new player willing to listen and communicate is a far greater player for the party than what the OP is talking about.
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The problem with this is that there are no teams willing to take a newbie and teach them. They want experienced pros and if you haven't cleared UW at least a couple hundred times then expect a swift kick from the team and a lot of cussing. That's why players like the noob in the OP lie.
Think of it from his perspective. Newbie Wammo fresh into Kryta asks to join an UW team. Says he can tank. A team accepts him and asks for build. He pings his wonderful mending/HB build that got him thru Ascalon alive and is cussed out and kicked.
He asks his guild what's a good UW build and they ping him a decent build. He spends a week acquiring the skills and tries again. He joins another team, pings his nice build and says he's looking forward to going to UW for the first time. He's cussed out again and kicked.
He joins yet another team. Says he's new to UW and wants to try out his new build. Team leader says NO NOOBS!!!! KICK!.
This time he joins the OP's team. They ask if he's experienced and he lies. He knows he'll be kicked if he doesn't. Can ya blame him?
The community in this game is very unforgiving. No one is willing to teach a new player how to do anything. I agree with the concept that you need to learn with hero's and henchies instead of making a human team fail, but for some areas, that isn't an option. I can enter UW or FOW with 3 heroes and if I'm a good player, I can make some progress, but I can't clear.
It's the responsibility of the team leader to make sure his team is prepared before you enter. If you want only pros then make it clear that you only want pros and check builds and knowledge beforehand. Ask questions. However also consider running sometimes with less knowledgable folks. Accept 1 or 2 "newbies" on the team. Ask them for their honest level of experience and tell them they won't be kicked if their honest and willing to learn. If they don't have a decent build then tell them they can't go but that you're willing to take them next week if they can get proper skills and equipment. Explain as you go and make sure they understand their function on the team. Most people are willing to learn.
Maybe if more people were willing to show newbies an elite area, these places wouldn't be so dead.
