I hate to be a party breaker here, but having been around for a long time, off and on, I know very well the treatment of mesmers in PvE (or lack of it). Why should I believe that these changes will make a mesmer playable on a level Ritualist is now, for example? As far as I'm concerned, these are all cosmetic changes, "look what mesmer can do now!", and in practice it's going to be underpowered still.
Well, with new Fast Casting and these skills redesigned, I just need to know one thing:
Will my mesmer need to continue with Assassin's Promise build designed to spam Ebon Assassin's, or will this skill balance give me *mesmer* build that is at least equally good to AP spammer one?
If not, don't waste your time and resources on this joke of skill balance, thanks. I understand the feel-good role of mesmers in PvE, where other classes no matter how underpowered they are, can always say: "But at least I'm not as bad as that mesmer!"
Mesmer Speculation
The Josip
S00per Dave
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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc
this is gonna make mesmer mobs in PvE a bitch to deal with >_< *sigh*
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maxxfury
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Originally Posted by The Josip
I hate to be a party breaker here, but having been around for a long time, off and on, I know very well the treatment of mesmers in PvE (or lack of it). Why should I believe that these changes will make a mesmer playable on a level Ritualist is now, for example? As far as I'm concerned, these are all cosmetic changes, "look what mesmer can do now!", and in practice it's going to be underpowered still.
Well, with new Fast Casting and these skills redesigned, I just need to know one thing: Will my mesmer need to continue with Assassin's Promise build designed to spam Ebon Assassin's, or will this skill balance give me *mesmer* build that is at least equally good to AP spammer one? If not, don't waste your time and resources on this joke of skill balance, thanks. I understand the feel-good role of mesmers in PvE, where other classes no matter how underpowered they are, can always say: "But at least I'm not as bad as that mesmer!" |
but at this stage, id be happy with just some more skills to take on tier 2* builds..to break the monotony lol
i dont need for pugs to see me as a valid party option.personally the people i team with usually dont give a crap, cos guildies do that :P
gonna see what the end result of the skill changes brings before i decide if they were a waste of time or not.
*for me at least in my ranks..
Tier 1 been ap sin spam & fd
tier 2 vor, clums spam
tier 3 lol
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Originally Posted by S00per Dave
Maybe they're looking, or have looked, at the mobs' builds and reworking them? Call it wishful thinking...
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drunknzelda
I'm still rooting for an Elementalist update aswell, since Energy Storage is kind of crappy, same goes for an ele's damage output in HM (if taking an Ele-only build of course, no skills from other professions).
MithranArkanere
I speculate that anybody that hasn't vanquished areas with Roaring Ethers or Wind Riders will sh*bleep*t bricks if they try to after the update.
Lopezus
It seems that Anet is taking whole lot of work to keep mesmers in exact place they are now, instead making pvp/pve split and buff many mesmers skills, especially elites, that are rewriting FC and balancing mesmers skills around it, so my guess is, that mesmers will be still redundant in comparison to necros while loosing flexibility in the process, something that was a little bit satysfying and enjoyable when playing mesmers with conscious that other profession do things better. The net result will be: mesmers will still suck but when you slap the same bar od mesmers skills on mesmer and on necro, this time mesmer will come on top.
lishi
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Originally Posted by The Josip
I hate to be a party breaker here, but having been around for a long time, off and on, I know very well the treatment of mesmers in PvE (or lack of it). Why should I believe that these changes will make a mesmer playable on a level Ritualist is now, for example? As far as I'm concerned, these are all cosmetic changes, "look what mesmer can do now!", and in practice it's going to be underpowered still.
Well, with new Fast Casting and these skills redesigned, I just need to know one thing: Will my mesmer need to continue with Assassin's Promise build designed to spam Ebon Assassin's, or will this skill balance give me *mesmer* build that is at least equally good to AP spammer one? If not, don't waste your time and resources on this joke of skill balance, thanks. I understand the feel-good role of mesmers in PvE, where other classes no matter how underpowered they are, can always say: "But at least I'm not as bad as that mesmer!" |
Amy Awien
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Originally Posted by lishi
There aren't many build better then a AP caller with a discord team, for any class.
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Karate Jesus
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Originally Posted by lishi
There aren't many build better then a AP caller with a discord team, for any class.
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4-5 of them have been used with Esurge to do speed clears, but the downtime is just terrible, unless you're arcane echo'ing and arcane mimicry'ing.
They're going a bit overboard with the buffs, but some of the changes are very very nice.
lishi
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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus
Often a balanced team is more effective (hence why Speed Clears don't use Discordway); however, in the past Mesmers have had few options for following the PvE curve - damage.
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I noticed also that once the minion machine have gone in motion you really need only 4 guys to kill the trivial group, allowing your team to split if you are doing dual discord..
-Makai-
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
I speculate that anybody that hasn't vanquished areas with Roaring Ethers or Wind Riders will sh*bleep*t bricks if they try to after the update.
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By the by, are there any Mesmer super-groups in Factions? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Sankt Hallvard
I speculate that the mesmer update has a 60% chance of happening before this christmas.
Cuilan
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Originally Posted by Sante_Kelm
By the by, are there any Mesmer super-groups in Factions? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
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The mesmer henchmen will also be buffed. Just saying.
Also going to be a dervish update...
belshazaarswrath
Even if they don't turn Mesmers into rape machines some kind of buff is better than nothing. I'm excited personally.
stretchs
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Originally Posted by Sante_Kelm
I vanquished Joko's Domain the other night with this train of thought. CoF + short recharge is going to be extremely annoying. If Joko's wasn't the toughest non-elite area in the game already, it's certainly going to be in a couple weeks(?).
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As for the Mes possible updates, my guess, overbuff, then 2-3 nerfs to get them back in line, by christmas
Shadowspawn X
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Originally Posted by lishi
There aren't many build better then a AP caller with a discord team, for any class.
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