Preliminary Skill Update Notes - 23 April 2010

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedb...pdate_previews

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

I fear the Wind Riders...

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

Those Wind Riders were pretty weak and their interrupts recharge poorly, so you could just cast filler stuff and then you'd be set.

My old illusion build that I still have saved will appreciate the Frustration and Wandering Eye changes.

Not much about energy management.

Shadowkiller Seth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Die Nordmannen

R/W

im so happy that im done with the vanquishing..

Shriketalon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Mesmer skills that are mesmery and still powerful?
Understanding of fundamental problems and a willingness to change them?
Future attention on Dervish and Paragon?

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

The only thing that bothers me.....these seem like they will all be abused by other classes more so than benefiting mesmers. Hopefully they will realize this and put a "clause" in there if u will.

Barrage

Barrage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

A/

Buffs......For....Mesmers?..................

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
The only thing that bothers me.....these seem like they will all be abused by other classes more so than benefiting mesmers. Hopefully they will realize this and put a "clause" in there if u will.
50% failure chance unless Fast Casting 5 or more.

Trub

Trub

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

Buff(s) for Fast casting, purple slinging, dancing interupters.
kewl..

S00per Dave

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2008

Minnesota

Heroes of Titans Realm

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowkiller Seth View Post
im so happy that im done with the vanquishing..
I second this thought...

Mintha Syl

Mintha Syl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2010

This. Is. Big.
Sounds promising!

Zenzai

Zenzai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

N/E

Wow. Talk about scary. Get your Hex Eater and Purge Signets ready.

.HunTer

.HunTer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

W/E

lol Migraine
That thing will be so OP

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

I can play my pretty mesmer nao, yay!

Charlie Dayman

Charlie Dayman

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

Trifecta Luminati [TRI]

W/

Sounds neat, I think I might finally give mesmer a go.

Trader of Secrets

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Well now theres a debuff on HM creatures.

miriforst

miriforst

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2009

Avalons Wraiths

R/Rt

Hardest enemies in gw of all time now?

imagine... max degen.... all spells interrupted.... slow skill activation.... clumsines.... yeah FTW!

this is gona be awesome fun to try these skills out! (haha gg backbreaker spammers, getting a new rival in, WHAT?? A MESMER??)

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

I agree that I think lessening some of the casting times on some of the longer to cast skills could be an issue if there isn't a clause as stated above. Really like how things are shaping up though!

madriel222

madriel222

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2008

Denver, Colorado

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/A

The new Psychic Instability just screams win...

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

GHAHHGHGHGHHGAHHGHAHGHAGA

Psychic Instability = for every 10 seconds, enemies are knocked down for 4. Woah. Also Stolen Speed is nice on a Hero, to make sure every enemy is hexed and give your allies Fast Casting. Now Mesmer will boost party DPS too...

Migraine = woah. Slow downs everything PLUS it's a Dazed but harder to remove.

Ninja Ninja

Ninja Ninja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/

I got a feeling there will be balance issues..

Gennadios

Gennadios

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2009

N/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja View Post
I got a feeling there will be balance issues..
Quote:
As we’re designing and testing changes, we’re looking very specifically at enabling roles (typically with a blend of damage mitigation and damage dealing) and play styles. We’re aiming to add and some powerful and appealing options for the Mesmer in PvE without introducing excessive power creep
Considering half these updates looked like a description for a PvE skill, yeah.

Now, would anyone like to take bets on which remaining decent Paragon skill will be sucker-punched in this update?

My money's on Defensive Anthem.

miskav

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

GG spirit spamming in UW now. lol

aspi

aspi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

eeew

N/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by miskav View Post
GG spirit spamming in UW now. lol
Well still got pretty far today. But indeed the mindblades killed me.

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

Panic looks like so much win. It's like Cry of Frustration every time the target uses a skill lol.

Migraine is like an uber hex-form of daze lol

Psychic Instability.. well, not much to be said there.

The most interesting piece of info other then all this though is the fact that they are in fact looking at dervishes and paragons, and oddly enough smiting monks.

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

Apparently excessive power creep is fine if you're using an already powerful profession. Nerfs for the weak, buffs for the godly.

Xsiriss

Xsiriss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

Commence Mes Heroway. Only problem now is what combo's to try out first.

Greedy Gus

Greedy Gus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Striking Distance

Most of those need to be pve-only, as they've already had to be nerfed in pvp (or still need to be).

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by aspi View Post
Well still got pretty far today. But indeed the mindblades killed me.
Update hasn't happened yet.

I'm loving the new versions of panic and physic instability, mesmers might actually start to see high-end areas now without relying on Cop or another proffession gimmick. Teams are also going to have to start bringing a lot more hex cleaners to prevent from wiping, which is another plus.

I love the notes for accumulated pain:
Quote:
Accumulated Pain – lower energy cost; recharge is short; now deals decent damage
GJ Anet, I'm impressed by what I see so far.

Grj

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gennadios View Post
Considering half these updates looked like a description for a PvE skill, yeah.

Now, would anyone like to take bets on which remaining decent Paragon skill will be sucker-punched in this update?

My money's on Defensive Anthem.
Anet are causing the power creep with this "balancing" they've taken too.

Now the other professions left behind said power creep will need to be buffed to stay on the same level.

End

End

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by aspi View Post
Well still got pretty far today. But indeed the mindblades killed me.
ummm....you do relise the update hasn't gone through yet right?


on a side note....yeah power creep moar?

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xsiriss View Post
Commence Mes Heroway. Only problem now is what combo's to try out first.
Definitely Panic + Frustration could be very interesting.

Stolen Speed most definitely

Psychic Distraction could be interesting for areas with a high concentration of one-class mobs. just interrupt like crazy and you've pretty much cut out their damage output.

Migraine looks amazing on it's own, but imagine Migraine along with Panic and Frustration.

Wandering eye was already a decent damage option, but now, whooey.

AOD_EaSyKiLL

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Angels of Death

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by miriforst View Post
Still stopped by SF.

Panic is still useless unless they lower the ENG cost.

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by upier View Post
High damage option that other teamates can synergize with =/= insta-kill interrupts

Dark-NighT

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

"Panic – new behavior: “For 1…8…10 seconds, target foe and all nearby foes are hexed with Panic. When a hexed foe successfully uses a skill, all other nearby foes are interrupted.”

My mesmer thanks anet, i am going to have SO much fun with that.

Ninja Ninja

Ninja Ninja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by upier View Post
Isn't upier on the test crew he probably had inside info.

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/

So who's ready for Frustrationway? Punishing Shot + Warmonger's/Wailing Weapon + Disrupting Accuracy should result in near instant death, at least if each of those counts as a separate interrupt on a single attack for Frustration.

-Makai-

-Makai-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

WA

DH

Rt/

Vanquish Maguuma and Asuran Lands...like...now.

Anyways, good to see Mesmers getting some love, though a lot of these changes seem a bit extreme. Also, Fast Casting better be linked to these skills somehow.

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond View Post
So who's ready for Frustrationway?
While Frustration does sound really good and has bit of synergy, it'll likely be closer to Fragility in that it's great, but not something you'd make a team build out of.

Ninja Ninja

Ninja Ninja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by upier View Post
Sweet baby Jesus no, I didn't even apply for it.
Weird seeing the person who makes the changes is not the one getting paid to do it.