Guild Wars 2-HoM, What to take from GW1, and what not to take.
galbat0rixx
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Ariovist Lynxkind
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Originally Posted by galbat0rixx
- We should have the HoM as a purely sentimental display, some people will of course argue that this is no reward for our commitment to Guild Wars, but I personally think we should have no advantage over new players, so I think that putting any of our HoM to practical use would be a mistake, as it is not a mark of how what we have achieved in GW2, but it's predecessor.
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Note on the PvP: they said they are keeping an Arenas thing and HA going, just based out of LA instead of the now flooded Battle Isles. They are also introducing large scale world v world as well
Karate Jesus
Bonus weapons with max stats that look similar to GW1 weapons that can't be traded.
Bonus headpieces or other ornamental armor that has no real armor value (like festival hats).
Bonus miniatures that can't be traded or cape emblems or something
Things that looks cool and award thousands of hours of work, yet aren't gamebreaking would be nice.
Bonus headpieces or other ornamental armor that has no real armor value (like festival hats).
Bonus miniatures that can't be traded or cape emblems or something
Things that looks cool and award thousands of hours of work, yet aren't gamebreaking would be nice.
clear
I would just like to see Guild Wars 2 come out...
I don't really care about the HoM untill I know what my dedications are going to get me.
I don't really care about the HoM untill I know what my dedications are going to get me.
Highlander Of Alba
I do not think they will offer anything that gives you any advantage over a
player that has not purchsed GW1.
I agree with that as where would it stop asking for more.
E.G then someone who has mutiple accounts should they not benifit ect, ect ,
Any speculation as thats all it is really my view keep as it is
where you see your achivements thats all.
player that has not purchsed GW1.
I agree with that as where would it stop asking for more.
E.G then someone who has mutiple accounts should they not benifit ect, ect ,
Any speculation as thats all it is really my view keep as it is
where you see your achivements thats all.
MelechRic
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Originally Posted by clear
I would just like to see Guild Wars 2 come out...
I don't really care about the HoM untill I know what my dedications are going to get me. |
It would be nice to have some HoM stuff come through, but I'm more interested in the feel of GW2. I'll be happy if there are little nods to GW1 in it from the devs. That has me way more interested then some sort of fashion show to point out that I played GW1 for 5 years.
Trader of Secrets
Yeah, really this HoM thing better be worth the time worth while. With all the time people put in, something
cool must come out.
cool must come out.
Charlie Dayman
I wouldn't mind seeing unique miniatures, weapons or armor that have been automatically customized after linking accounts.
UnChosen
I would prefer some sort of convenience item that wouldn't give battle advantage. Ex. Everlasting Merchant Summoning Stone
Gennadios
Listen, I'm all for keeping the game balanced, but the insane k's of hours players put in should count for more than sentimentality.
Especially taking into account that the glimmer of hope for GW2 is a large part of what's been keeping GW1 going for the past few years.
I want bonus armor and weaponry. What I *don't* want is s***** /bonus armor and weaponry, the kind that one can get with a console command and soon becomes so commonplace that it means nothing.
I want to be forced to craft this stuff, even if it's customized and un-tradeable, and the crafting to require high-end mats, whatever they may be, so that when you equip the item, you had to work for it in GW2 as well as GW1 instead of just riding on the recognition of a bygone era.
Especially taking into account that the glimmer of hope for GW2 is a large part of what's been keeping GW1 going for the past few years.
I want bonus armor and weaponry. What I *don't* want is s***** /bonus armor and weaponry, the kind that one can get with a console command and soon becomes so commonplace that it means nothing.
I want to be forced to craft this stuff, even if it's customized and un-tradeable, and the crafting to require high-end mats, whatever they may be, so that when you equip the item, you had to work for it in GW2 as well as GW1 instead of just riding on the recognition of a bygone era.
Hyaon
I agree with Gennadios, vet gw1 players should get something unique for..sticking with anet for 5+ years? thats bloody dedication if you ask me 
PuppyEater
Its seems unlikely that they will give us anything "usable", we'll probably get costume-like items and maybe title or auras...
Chronos the Defiler
I would prefer some aesthetic things or other non-game breaking things, but still have them unique and feel like a "reward"...
But also I think these rewards should be given near the END of the game, so you get that fresh feeling, be on level with new players and claim them way later in the game so you still need to work for them even though they are just passed from the first game.
But also I think these rewards should be given near the END of the game, so you get that fresh feeling, be on level with new players and claim them way later in the game so you still need to work for them even though they are just passed from the first game.
rick1027
my thought on the hom should be unique costumes minis maybe a bonus weapon that doesnt have any better stats and unique skin then what you can get in the game anyways. thats all im asking not anything that gives me a benefit over other players just stuff to show hey im a bit different cause i dedicated a lot of time in guild wars. the costume could be like what we got now we still need armor but just show to others and the bonus weapons can be like what you get if you bought the gwen preview or goty nothing spevcial but a different look
October Jade
I'm hoping that we get a message saying, "The Eye eventually fell to the Charr, and they destroyed the HoM. But surely you had fun playing GW1, which is after all a game." Play because you enjoy it, not because you demand some kind of compensation in an entirely different venue.
sixdartbart
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Originally Posted by October Jade
I'm hoping that we get a message saying, "The Eye eventually fell to the Charr, and they destroyed the HoM. But surely you had fun playing GW1, which is after all a game." Play because you enjoy it, not because you demand some kind of compensation in an entirely different venue.
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HAHAHAHA
Martin Alvito
I think they should be as nice as possible and non-transferable. As far as I am concerned, the people that dedicated mini Kanaxais should be able to have mini Kanaxais follow them around in GW2. But those pets should not be transferable.
I wouldn't mind seeing other things like fame emotes, zrank, armor skins and hero armors transfer either. The more different ways to signal that you're old school, the better.
No one will care about that stuff (except maybe the minis) six months into GW2 anyway if there are cool new things and emotes for players to acquire. We all recognize the problems with GW's reward systems.
I wouldn't mind seeing other things like fame emotes, zrank, armor skins and hero armors transfer either. The more different ways to signal that you're old school, the better.
No one will care about that stuff (except maybe the minis) six months into GW2 anyway if there are cool new things and emotes for players to acquire. We all recognize the problems with GW's reward systems.
Ninja Ninja
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Originally Posted by galbat0rixx
EDIT: I myself think that the rewards for being a part of GW1 should be as minimal as possible, I disagree with good looking armor and also disagree with un-tradeable but maxed weapons, as I think everything should be available to everyone no matter if they played Guild Wars or not. I also think that armors to be crafted exclusively for old GW players is a no-no, imo, this should be a completely new game with almos no influence from GW1. I see people's point when they say they would feel as though they had wasted their time on GW1, but really I think that being "committed" is a slightly weak argument, you enjoyed the game no? It's not as though you've been through hell to get your GW1 achievements (well, drunkard title seems pretty bad but still....). All in all I am in favour of a new game where your GW1 achievements mean shizz all in GW2, except when you have a personal moment in your HoM. If it were up to me: no mini's, no weapons, no armors, no nothing except for some pretty statues in your HoM. I'm braced for the storm coming from those committed players.
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People who have worked getting titles etc for years should get really nice rewards for there hard work.
No offense but I think the only reason you don't want good looking rewards for HoM stuff is because you don't have any.
Graveheart
Well hate to rain on the parade of dreaming about what people will get from hom on gw 2,but there is just a tiny little tricky detail.
How many of you remember your nc account?
Because i dont think that linking will be as simple as we want it.
How many of you remember your nc account?
Because i dont think that linking will be as simple as we want it.
The Scorpion Knight
They should give is some in-town benefit. Like being able to run faster in cities if you have Legendary Cartographer or something of that sort. Not really sure what way to use the other titles though.
Bob Slydell
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Originally Posted by Graveheart
Well hate to rain on the parade of dreaming about what people will get from hom on gw 2,but there is just a tiny little tricky detail.
How many of you remember your nc account? Because i dont think that linking will be as simple as we want it. |
Zenzai
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Originally Posted by Graveheart
Well hate to rain on the parade of dreaming about what people will get from hom on gw 2,but there is just a tiny little tricky detail.
How many of you remember your nc account? Because i dont think that linking will be as simple as we want it. |
MisterB
They could just allow account linking in account options. Input your log in for your GW1 account in the GW2 client, GW2 client connects to GW1 server, retrieves HoM info, done. There's no need to involve the NCSoft site. I really hope they keep it simple. I don't plan to link accounts in the NCMA until and unless I am satisfied with NCSoft's security.
jazilla
@OP: Your post strays a lot from the title. If you had left it to suggestions of what would people like to see rather than bashing things like zkeys that are in no way related to the HoM sans the beetle statue, I would have no qualms.
Onto your topic:
I would like to see my account have access to Destroyer/Tormented Weapons and a few sets of armor and some mini's. They have already stated that getting to your HoM isn't right after character creation, so it's not like we are getting max weapons at level one. They have also said that it is nothing more than cosmetic items. I don't really see getting access to armor for all the hard work I have put into GW1 as an advantage IF other players that never played GW1 have access to the same level of armor at the same point that I get my armor from my HoM. Same goes for weapons and really, pets offer no bonus.
Onto your topic:
I would like to see my account have access to Destroyer/Tormented Weapons and a few sets of armor and some mini's. They have already stated that getting to your HoM isn't right after character creation, so it's not like we are getting max weapons at level one. They have also said that it is nothing more than cosmetic items. I don't really see getting access to armor for all the hard work I have put into GW1 as an advantage IF other players that never played GW1 have access to the same level of armor at the same point that I get my armor from my HoM. Same goes for weapons and really, pets offer no bonus.
October Jade
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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja
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People who have worked getting titles etc for years should get really nice rewards for there hard work. No offense but I think the only reason you don't want good looking rewards for HoM stuff is because you don't have any. |
You already got your rewards. Did you somehow forget about all the titles, minipets, and prestige weapons in this game?
It's absolutely ridiculous to expect that your "work" should continue to provide benefits after moving on to a completely different game. GW2 is not just an extension of GW. Nothing you have done will matter anymore. Get over yourselves.
ANet already made their vague promises on the matter, so there will be something, but it doesn't matter what they decide to give. Players like these won't ever be satisfied.
Mr. Undisclosed
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Originally Posted by jazilla
They have also said that it is nothing more than cosmetic items. I don't really see getting access to armor for all the hard work I have put into GW1 as an advantage IF other players that never played GW1 have access to the same level of armor at the same point that I get my armor from my HoM. Same goes for weapons and really, pets offer no bonus. |
I'd like to see armor sets unlocked later in the game, divine aura-like stuff and maybe /bonus weapons (although they'd probably suck like the current /bonus weapons)
Puddin Cheeks
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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja
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People who have worked getting titles etc for years should get really nice rewards for there hard work. No offense but I think the only reason you don't want good looking rewards for HoM stuff is because you don't have any. |
by the time GW2 launches, there will be more GWAMMers than not, so it won't matter anyway. The rewards will be crap if any and everyone will have them, end of story QQ now and get it over with.
Zehnchu
Well it's something I would rather not see, but oh well. But then too with all the hacked accounts scam mails and Ncsoft security I am learning more towards not linking.
Agar
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Originally Posted by October Jade
/facepalm
You already got your rewards. Did you somehow forget about all the titles, minipets, and prestige weapons in this game? It's absolutely ridiculous to expect that your "work" should continue to provide benefits after moving on to a completely different game. GW2 is not just an extension of GW. Nothing you have done will matter anymore. Get over yourselves. ANet already made their vague promises on the matter, so there will be something, but it doesn't matter what they decide to give. Players like these won't ever be satisfied. |
Another great idea a guy said was to add a point system. Each achievement/armor/pet etc you add to HoM you get rewarded with points that you can spend for rewards. That way you can get the rewards by doing what you like most so you wont be forced to do pve/pvp just to get what you like.
godis
It will probably be a title or something. " Ancestor of heroes"
I think I can live with that.
I think I can live with that.
Nerel
I'm thinking an unlocked armor set featuring a T-shirt bearing the following scrawled message "My ancestor's survived the searing, saved the world and defeated a God... and all I got was this lousy T-shirt!"
Artisan Archer
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Originally Posted by October Jade
It's absolutely ridiculous to expect that your "work" should continue to provide benefits after moving on to a completely different game. GW2 is not just an extension of GW. Nothing you have done will matter anymore. Get over yourselves.
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Also, /facepalm this, /facepalm that = retarded.
Kurald Galain
If i could choose what i'd like as rewards from my HoM I'd go with the following :
From the armor monument: Choose an armor as a costume you can wear in GW2 - changeable ...
From the Honor monument: Choose a title you can display.
From the Weapon monument : Dunno don't really like either type of skin you can display there so .... Ideally it'd be nice if they'd do it so i could put my most used weapons in a seperate box in the HoM so my grand grand children can find em.
From the Minipet monument: Be able to choose a minipet you can have following you around.
From the Fellowship Monument: Not sure there either ... can't think of anything cosmetic from there.
And now my realistic opinion on the HoM rewards. I doubt it'll be anything overly fancy or something extraordinary. And i have to say i don't really care all that much about the rewards from there. As long as they aren't giving anyone an advantage and are purely cosmetic i'm fine with (almost) anything.
From the armor monument: Choose an armor as a costume you can wear in GW2 - changeable ...
From the Honor monument: Choose a title you can display.
From the Weapon monument : Dunno don't really like either type of skin you can display there so .... Ideally it'd be nice if they'd do it so i could put my most used weapons in a seperate box in the HoM so my grand grand children can find em.
From the Minipet monument: Be able to choose a minipet you can have following you around.
From the Fellowship Monument: Not sure there either ... can't think of anything cosmetic from there.
And now my realistic opinion on the HoM rewards. I doubt it'll be anything overly fancy or something extraordinary. And i have to say i don't really care all that much about the rewards from there. As long as they aren't giving anyone an advantage and are purely cosmetic i'm fine with (almost) anything.
Ninja Ninja
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Originally Posted by galbat0rixx
I admit I am no great title achiever, I have never taken much interest in them and only have the NF completion title, although that said I am actually nearly R3 Zaishen (nothing to boast about I know) and Only have a few missions to get the Defender of Cantha and NF titles. In any case, you can have your titles if you want, they are what I would like to see in GW2 HoM, its the weapons and armor I don't. I don't have much variety when it comes to different armor sets: Asuran, Vabbian, Sunspear Elite, and Ancient - and have only dedicated a tormented shield and a destroyer shield. I just don't like the idea of getting any bonus', especially getting good looking armors only available to us GW1 players, I'm thinking about the new players here, it wouldn't be fair on them.
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Also people don't do titles to show them off they do it for the promise of a reward in gw2, there's really no point of having 30 titles transferred over to gw2 if all you do is show one title nobody knows about one at a time.
To be blunt honest you haven't played the game enough to give an opinion of merit on what people who have been playing the game for years have worked to achieve.
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Originally Posted by October Jade
/facepalm
You already got your rewards. Did you somehow forget about all the titles, minipets, and prestige weapons in this game? It's absolutely ridiculous to expect that your "work" should continue to provide benefits after moving on to a completely different game. GW2 is not just an extension of GW. Nothing you have done will matter anymore. Get over yourselves. ANet already made their vague promises on the matter, so there will be something, but it doesn't matter what they decide to give. Players like these won't ever be satisfied. |
The whole point of HoM is so stuff I've done will matter in gw2, don't hate because you don't have.
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Originally Posted by Puddin Cheeks
/ricochet facepalm
by the time GW2 launches, there will be more GWAMMers than not, so it won't matter anyway. The rewards will be crap if any and everyone will have them, end of story QQ now and get it over with. |
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Originally Posted by Agar
100% agree with you. We already discussed something like that in GW2guru. Most of the people agreed that the less rewards the better. In GW2 many many many new players that never played GW1 will join us so it will be annoying for them to see all the time people with hundreds of "special" items. Just filling your HoM should be enough to get all the rewards.
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To sum it up its easy for a new player who just bought the trilogy pack for $40 and think they have insta opinion on rewards meant for vet players who bought each game for $70+ ($100+ for collecters edition).
Zahr Dalsk
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Originally Posted by galbat0rixx
We should have the HoM as a purely sentimental display, some people will of course argue that this is no reward for our commitment to Guild Wars, but I personally think we should have no advantage over new players, so I think that putting any of our HoM to practical use would be a mistake, as it is not a mark of how what we have achieved in GW2, but it's predecessor.
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Gill Halendt
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Originally Posted by Nerel
I'm thinking an unlocked armor set featuring a T-shirt bearing the following scrawled message "My ancestor's survived the searing, saved the world and defeated a God... and all I got was this lousy T-shirt!"
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How about some fabulous miniature, so we can say it's more like a fabulous doorstop?
October Jade
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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja
To be blunt honest you haven't played the game enough to give an opinion of merit on what people who have been playing the game for years have worked to achieve.
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4thVariety
The prospect of rewards in GW2 might sweeten the deal for some of the absurd grinds people talk themselves into enduring right now, but they serve no purpose beyond that. "I get rewards in GW2 is nothing but a sore excuse based on something you do not know anything about". A figment of your imagination if you will.
Make no mistake, once you play GW2, you will want rewards for playing GW2. Those GW1 rewards will count for squat-douche. Why would anybody buy a game to exhibit his prowess in the predecessor. If you are there and want to compete, you have to compete there, not in some precursor that is then wiped from your mind anyway.
Make no mistake, once you play GW2, you will want rewards for playing GW2. Those GW1 rewards will count for squat-douche. Why would anybody buy a game to exhibit his prowess in the predecessor. If you are there and want to compete, you have to compete there, not in some precursor that is then wiped from your mind anyway.
Agar
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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja
I really don't care about the discussion you had with people on a forum because most people that spend all there days on forums never actually play the game. Again gw1 has its unique rewards like wintergreen weapons and many pre order weapons yet people seem to be living fine.
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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja
There welcome to try, really gwamm isn't everything there's also pvp titles and if it took people years to get those titles don't expect as many people to have it.
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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja
The reason gw2 was made was not for a completely new game where everyone is back to square one. They made it because they had so many ideas to add features to the game which couldn't be added because of the games graphical restrictions and how they could expand the game using the z axis.
The whole point of HoM is so stuff I've done will matter in gw2, don't hate because you don't have. |
ValaOfTheFens
I'd like my companion to be the ghost of a GW1 toon from my account. It wouldn't be any better than other people's companions but it would be a decent tribute to a toon I really like and have spent a great deal of time on. Though you'd be stuck with the toon you choose and each character you make would have that toon as their companion.