I'm sure that many deserved their ban , but some were unfairly banned . So whoever wants to prove A-net their account has never had bot on it is free to e-mail them . I also have a question : I have NEVER used bots in GW , but does that message mean my acc is finished and I can't get it back , EVER ?
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Lolwut1337
To Chicken To Die
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
It's funny to see the sheeple who can't think for themselves and question authority rush out.
And honestly, is a definitive yes or no that freaking hard to give, really, it's been how many years that this question has been posed? |
Your answer is in the rules of this game that has been there for years.
You lost your case on your first post pls get over it.
Lithril Ashwalker
HAHA
little short story, i reported some noob for selling a runescape account and spamming gold site in LA a week ago. i get a whisper from him saying i should try botting. knowingly enough hed get banned anyway, i went to the area signed up for elite membership and told Anet in an email what i was doing. sent the link to the bot to anet and that websites log in and pass for me(my log in to the elite area) just in case they'd want to do surveillance, then told the website what i did in BIG CAPS LETTERS. 2 hours later i get a message form the site saying your blanketyblankblank.com elite membership has been permanently banned for unsupportable conduct for future members(good i hope so) checked my email next day getting a thank you note from anet support team for helping making guild wars a better game play experience.
guessing they extracted the files from the bot or something and used it against peeps who used that type of bot xD that and new members of anet .
this goes to show the sacrifice id go through for all of you guys personally. that elite membership wasn't free
"aint i a stinkah?"
little short story, i reported some noob for selling a runescape account and spamming gold site in LA a week ago. i get a whisper from him saying i should try botting. knowingly enough hed get banned anyway, i went to the area signed up for elite membership and told Anet in an email what i was doing. sent the link to the bot to anet and that websites log in and pass for me(my log in to the elite area) just in case they'd want to do surveillance, then told the website what i did in BIG CAPS LETTERS. 2 hours later i get a message form the site saying your blanketyblankblank.com elite membership has been permanently banned for unsupportable conduct for future members(good i hope so) checked my email next day getting a thank you note from anet support team for helping making guild wars a better game play experience.
guessing they extracted the files from the bot or something and used it against peeps who used that type of bot xD that and new members of anet .
this goes to show the sacrifice id go through for all of you guys personally. that elite membership wasn't free
"aint i a stinkah?"
To Chicken To Die
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Originally Posted by Lolwut1337
I'm sure that many deserved their ban , but some were unfairly banned . So whoever wants to prove A-net their account has never had bot on it is free to e-mail them . I also have a question : I have NEVER used bots in GW , but does that message mean my acc is finished and I can't get it back , EVER ?
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Oggy
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Originally Posted by Bob Slydell
There is one texture address out of over a few hundred thousand that relates to the map's fog. It was discovered and usable for users of TM boo hoo big deal, but the drunkard bot... j just give it up already. Were comparing a tool that plays with any textures you want for fun sake and one that automates game play. There is no contest.
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snaek
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Originally Posted by Kumu Honua
The Drunkard bot is like Marijuana. Many people don't care you use it, but you can still get arrested for it.
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Lithril Ashwalker
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Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die
You should already have noticed that this question is pointless on this forum and should send a e-mail to support and wait till you get a answer
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pwned...
Bob Slydell
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Originally Posted by Lolwut1337
I'm sure that many deserved their ban , but some were unfairly banned . So whoever wants to prove A-net their account has never had bot on it is free to e-mail them . I also have a question : I have NEVER used bots in GW , but does that message mean my acc is finished and I can't get it back , EVER ?
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Originally Posted by Oggy
Are you saying that Texmod doesn't give a huge advantage to those attempting to do the cartographer title?
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Joe Fierce
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Originally Posted by Bob Slydell
There is one texture address out of over a few hundred thousand that relates to the map's fog. It was discovered and usable for users of TM boo hoo big deal, but the drunkard bot... j just give it up already. Were comparing a tool that plays with any textures you want for fun sake and one that automates game play. There is no contest.
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Texmod cuts out great amounts of time required to get the title and automatically points out the spots you need.
Both are automation.
Drunkard bot changes the demand on alcohol.
Texmod changes the demand on map checking and mapping assisting services.
lololololololololol.
Both can essentially be deemed as harmful yet to defend one and snub the other because you used one, yet another person who cannot argue sans bias.
jch_8705
soooo since most nerfs and buffs were prob made because of farming bots and what not does that mean anet will go back on some of the more hardcore runs?
Martin Alvito
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Originally Posted by Lolwut1337
I'm sure that many deserved their ban , but some were unfairly banned . So whoever wants to prove A-net their account has never had bot on it is free to e-mail them . I also have a question : I have NEVER used bots in GW , but does that message mean my acc is finished and I can't get it back , EVER ?
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But that's all you can do. We can't do a thing for you here.
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soooo since most nerfs and buffs were prob made because of farming bots and what not does that mean anet will go back on some of the more hardcore runs?
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Not saying that it was impossible to bot farm with 8 accounts. Just saying that it wasn't widespread and the nerfs weren't aimed at solving that problem.
Jeydra
Just wondering but what is "The Holy Avenger" listed in the article?
kaylaaka
in the Eula wouldnt Ventrillo or Teamspeak be deemed illegal since it provides an advantage?
Lolwut1337
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Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die
You should already have noticed that this question is pointless on this forum and should send a e-mail to support and wait till you get a answer
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snaek
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Originally Posted by Oggy
Are you saying that Texmod doesn't give a huge advantage to those attempting to do the cartographer title?
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edit: or not.
Sidheyuna Aetheris
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Originally Posted by Bob Slydell
Everyone here who even has to ask about cheating is a likely cheater. Sad. It's people like yourselves who are ruining PC gaming for the casual folk.
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We can all sit here and argue back and forth til the servers go offline, but neither my nor your opinion is the one that matters in this situation...it's the person with their finger hovering over the "To Ban" or "Not To Ban" buttons whose really matters right now.
Greed[Exs]
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Originally Posted by Lolwut1337
I hope we get to discuss this with the support team , because , believe me it's not nice to see words like "terminated" or "permanent" in a warning screen when you haven't done anything .
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Countess Marie
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Originally Posted by Lolwut1337
I hope we get to discuss this with the support team , because , believe me it's not nice to see words like "terminated" or "permanent" in a warning screen when you haven't done anything .
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-CM
BladeDVD
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
Okay, but agreed or disagree that a ruler/judge that actually takes the nature of offense into consideration is better?
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Things like Texmod don't play the game for people. You still have to go clear the area with your character for the cartographer title.
Bob Slydell
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
Drunkard automatically takes time for you.
Texmod cuts out great amounts of time required to get the title and automatically points out the spots you need. Both are automation. Drunkard bot changes the demand on alcohol. Texmod changes the demand on map checking and mapping assisting services. lololololololololol. Both can essentially be deemed as harmful yet to defend one and snub the other because you used one, yet another person who cannot argue sans bias. |
Lolwut1337
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Originally Posted by Countess Marie
I didn't do anything, either, but I'm still playing. Maybe you need to look deeper. Mistakes like that don't happen. There is SOMETHING that triggered it. It's not like they had a big list of names to banned and accidentally clicked yours.
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Greed[Exs]
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Originally Posted by Countess Marie
I didn't do anything, either, but I'm still playing. Maybe you need to look deeper. Mistakes like that don't happen. There is SOMETHING that triggered it. It's not like they had a big list of names to banned and accidentally clicked yours.
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Smarty
Re drunk bot.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...Jan_-_Mar_2009
In short, using the drunkard bot is a bannable offence according to Gaile and the GMs.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...Jan_-_Mar_2009
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And I had just said I'd never go back to Blizzard... → moved from User Talk:Gaile Gray For several months I had been working on my drunkard title...had maxed several titles prior to that, and was told in Kamadan to download an auto click program to make the timing easier...I was told that it's not a bot, and ANet looked at it like Texmod. I spent the next three days auto clicking my drunkard title after asking around and being told that that's how most people get maxed. After that someone said that you can max your Luxon and Kurz titles by entering missions...just auto click the enter mission and go afk. Came home last night with an error code =045 and a perm suspension, so I sent a request to see if I could be given a steep warning and never go that route again. A few minutes ago, I got a canned email stating that there was nothing that could be done, thanks for writing. Your Guild Wars Account has been closed for using an illegal third party program. We want you to know that we use great care when analyzing accounts prior to termination. We are both diligent and conservative in determining which accounts are using these programs, and we only take action after we are able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that such use has occurred. For additional information on the User Agreement and Rules of Conduct, please visit the below links: http://www.guildwars.com/support/leg...sofconduct.php http://www.guildwars.com/support/leg...-agreement.php Regards, GMLemoncobra The Guild Wars Support Team I use the auto click program and my keyboard for several things and didn't realize it was going to get me banned...well...after three years of game play and this sudden of action while I watch people break the eula agreements in Kamadan constantly...I'm starting to wonder if I should just go back to Diablo and wait for Diablo 3 release? Be warned, ANet doesn't accept sorry...I didn't think it was considered a bot as an excuse. You'll get banned and everything you've worked for in the last three years will be wasted. Actually it's sad...this was the first time I went with ANet/NCSoft...because of the canned phrase email and not even being given a chance...I'm thinking about moving on. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:65.50.21.87 (talk). [Other people's replies removed by me for brevity's sake - check the wiki link provided above the quote if you're that interested.] A few comments: The response you received from Support was written and sent by a real person, not a bot. I work with LemonCobra, and he's a good and diligent associate who carefully reviews tickets before responding. While the phrasing may be formal, it is so by necessity, to make it perfectly clear what our stance is on this matter. Didn't know you couldn't use an automated system? Did you consult the wiki? Did you consider the ArenaNet pages, asking a staff member, submitting a query to the Support Team (we receive a few a week about this), or reviewing any number of forum posts, wiki posts, even Dev Updates about the matter? @ Vili: The difference between TexMod and other programs is that TextMod does not intersect with the game server and does not give advantage to a player using it. A player that cuts the "work" out of "working on a title" is being given an advantage. To state the obvious, it's downright cheating! I'm not sure if this applies to what you did, but entering parts of the game as a party member -- with or opposing other players -- and then going AFK is considered leeching. Leeching is against the rules of fair play, against the Rules of Conduct and the Event/Tournament/PvP Rules, and normal, decent standards of sportsmanship. You're not only taking advantage of a cheat for your own gain, you're putting your party members at a disadvantage and adversely impacting the play experience of others. On the "Everyone does it" comment. Nope, not true. I'm 8,000+ into Drunkard, and I clicked every single jug, bottle, flask, or stein. And I would warrant that a large number of people with the title did that, as well. Those who didn't simply did not earn the title. On the "other people cheat" comment: Yes, they do. But we don't stop taking action because we cannot action everyone, any more than the police stop giving tickets because they can't catch all those who speed, drive recklessly, or break other laws of the road. If you see breaches of the User Agreement report them and they will be researched and dealt with, as appropriate. But using "you didn't action the naughty name" as justification to cheat is monumental illogic. Basically, what's the point of getting a title if you don't -- you know -- actually get the title? What sort of "accomplishment" did you achieve, in cheating your way to a meaningless title? I am responding to this because I see a very real support issue here. I see the Support Team being criticized for doing the right thing, for taking good, reasonable, prudent action on the account of someone who was repeatedly exploiting the game. I see the team being called to task for doing their job, for enforcing a policy that we, as a company, and all legitimate players endorse. Your problem is decidedly not with the Support Team, for they most assuredly did the right thing. -- Gaile 00:42, 4 March 2009 (UTC) |
Oggy
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byteme!
People got banned for match manipulation too. Some of you who didn't bot may have some how gotten banned for manipulation maybe? Maybe perhaps one of your idiot guildmates/alliance members somehow dragged you into this mess when they manipulated a match you happen to be apart of without knowing?
To Chicken To Die
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Originally Posted by Sidheyuna Aetheris
HOWEVER, I still want to know their official stance on these things. Wanting to be informed of policy changes and/or exceptions to that policy doesn't mean you're "likely" to be cheating at all...we just want someone OFFICIAL to set the record straight.
We can all sit here and argue back and forth til the servers go offline, but neither my nor your opinion is the one that matters in this situation...it's the person with their finger hovering over the "To Ban" or "Not To Ban" buttons whose really matters right now. |
http://www.guildwars.com/
And here are you official statements:
http://www.guildwars.com/support/legal/
HF reading
Wynthyst
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Originally Posted by Jeydra
Just wondering but what is "The Holy Avenger" listed in the article?
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Jeydra
Weird, I put in "Holy Avenger" into Wiki search and couldn't find it. Thanks!
snaek
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Texmod cuts out great amounts of time required to get the title and automatically points out the spots you need.
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the key difference is that texmod helps you get a title, whereas drunkard bot gets it for you.
Oggy
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Originally Posted by snaek
key difference is that texmod helps you get a title, whereas drunkard bot gets it for you.
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Killed u man
Anything is bannable, regardless of Anet's Employees stances. Gaile made an official statement on something that couldn't get you banned, I got banned for it. The GM's and dev team themselves can't even agree as to where the line exactly lies.
Bottom line, do whatever you want whilst Anet randomly picks out people they ban. The sad truth.
Bottom line, do whatever you want whilst Anet randomly picks out people they ban. The sad truth.
Eragon Zarroc
i remember when they mass banned kurzick hfff botters and then unbanned em all and forgave em.
*cough*repeat?*cough*
lololol
*cough*repeat?*cough*
lololol
snaek
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Originally Posted by Oggy
Mmmk. Do Legendary Carto with and without texmod and post your times.
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snaek
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Originally Posted by Oggy
Still need to buy/farm the alcohol.
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To Chicken To Die
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Originally Posted by Oggy
Still need to buy/farm the alcohol.
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Don't try to polish a turd. Cus it will still be a turd!
The Scorpion Knight
Nicely done Arenanet.
Grj
Screaming and crying about being banned for using a bot when you claim you don't, contact support and find out the reason why first.
Scamming/leeching and language abuse violations are many of the reasons to warrant a ban.
Ohh I love the people trolling waiting for the black and white responce they want to justify to themselves the reasoning why they used a bot in the first place... aaahhh sweet denial
Scamming/leeching and language abuse violations are many of the reasons to warrant a ban.
Ohh I love the people trolling waiting for the black and white responce they want to justify to themselves the reasoning why they used a bot in the first place... aaahhh sweet denial
Ka Tet
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Originally Posted by Killed u man
Bottom line, do whatever you want whilst Anet randomly picks out people they ban. The sad truth.
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It feels so wrong to agree with Borat, but yea support is quite often capricious, arbitrary and unwilling to admit when wrong.
SerenitySilverstar
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Originally Posted by windtalker
So, in conclusion, you have lost people who cared about the game and people who "bought in" to the way you initially advertised the game. These people won't come back.
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It's Concern Trolling at it's finest.
Martin Alvito
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Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar
Cheaters are people who care only about themselves and/or making money.
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There are a fair number of victimless crimes motivated by sloth (eg: drunkbot) perpetrated by players. That doesn't make those players selfish or greedy. It makes them lazy.
Irrespective, it's against the ToS and by taking that road you put your account at risk.
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Originally Posted by majoho
Except everyone else aside from you and him knows what he did was against the rules, no matter how many times he brings it up it is clear that he was justly banned.
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