GW Gear Stat Ranges by Req. (formerly "Low Req Weapons - Stats and Gallery!")
Pleikki
Yeah ive seen 7-18 and 6-19 axes in pre
Raven Wing
Just got a white req3 10-16 spear in mehtani keys.
Nagaroth
Yawgmoth
@Nagaroth
Thanks for your contribution. Just one question - do you remember if those (sword and hammer) have dropped AFTER Nightfall release? Or you don't remember where you got them from?
Thanks for your contribution. Just one question - do you remember if those (sword and hammer) have dropped AFTER Nightfall release? Or you don't remember where you got them from?
Vizi
idk about Twin Hammer
but he told me that he has dropped the Storm Artifact these last weeks.
I guess it's same for the hammer.
but he told me that he has dropped the Storm Artifact these last weeks.
I guess it's same for the hammer.
Nagaroth
The twin hammer and the storm are after nightfall release
And for the others, i'll ask to my friend !
Edit : the sunqua blade is before nightfall
And for the others, i'll ask to my friend !
Edit : the sunqua blade is before nightfall
Ultimadiorifiamma
Yawgmoth
Really nice staff, beats everything we had so far by a large margin. Do you remember what dropped it?
I think we won't get better base stats for a req.6 staff, even if they are theoretically possible (maybe they are maybe not, can't really say).
Next thing to look for is if 10-19 dmg is possible on a req.6 staff with any hsr/ene - 10-19 isn't even very rare on req.6 Wands and it may even not be the max, but I haven't recorded seeing it on a staff yet. (however I didn't care about low stat staves before this thread existed so ignored them for all the years)
I think we won't get better base stats for a req.6 staff, even if they are theoretically possible (maybe they are maybe not, can't really say).
Next thing to look for is if 10-19 dmg is possible on a req.6 staff with any hsr/ene - 10-19 isn't even very rare on req.6 Wands and it may even not be the max, but I haven't recorded seeing it on a staff yet. (however I didn't care about low stat staves before this thread existed so ignored them for all the years)
Bright Star Shine
I've seen a q7 Death magic wand (blue, inscr) drop in NM DoA it was 11-21, thought it was max, but found out it wasn't, so merched it. no screeny, i know, but just saying.
Red Fireball
here some other low reqs, e.g. a 10-19 q6 staff
nagroth: that crude shield is awesome!
*edit: they are post-nf-release (just to confirm)
nagroth: that crude shield is awesome!
*edit: they are post-nf-release (just to confirm)
Masacru Ak
Friend of Mine got this axe lige 4-5 months ago , the Divine scroll i still have it , never sold it because im not sure if is worth somthing and how much is worth . Shields low req i have Q6/Ar14 BLUE Insc Tactics Reinfoeced buckler nad the secon one Q6/AR14 Blue Insc Strength Defender .
Luke D
I noticed on the first page that Yawg had
Staff HSR/ENE/DMG
R5 16/8/9-15
R6 17/9/10-18
R7 16/10/11-20
R8 19/9/11-20
As the max for currently droppable staves. I just got a req 8 18/10/11-21 purple inscribed staff farming vaettir. I will add a screenshot assigned and identified if requested.
I'm pretty sure (although no screenshot so I might be wrong) I got a req 8 inspiration (also purple) 20/10/11-21 staff from the same foes once, but I merched it because I didn't think it would be worth the time to sell (although now it looks like it might have been!).
Staff HSR/ENE/DMG
R5 16/8/9-15
R6 17/9/10-18
R7 16/10/11-20
R8 19/9/11-20
As the max for currently droppable staves. I just got a req 8 18/10/11-21 purple inscribed staff farming vaettir. I will add a screenshot assigned and identified if requested.
I'm pretty sure (although no screenshot so I might be wrong) I got a req 8 inspiration (also purple) 20/10/11-21 staff from the same foes once, but I merched it because I didn't think it would be worth the time to sell (although now it looks like it might have been!).
Ariena Najea
Since I'm settled back at college, I have time to go back and update over the next couple of days! PM me if you want your shinies in the gallery and did not specify.
Pleikki
Pleikki
Yawgmoth
Nice new stuff posted here!
@Bright Star Shine: 11-21 req.7 drop seems unbelievable - I'd have to see to believe, although DoA speedclears are one of the best places to look out for such items - lots of items, they don't get picked up, watch the white/blue trash on the ground, they have exactly the level we want for finding best possible base stats for req.7 and req.8!
@Red Fireball: Thanks for that low req staff screenshot, awesome, 14% HSR on a no req staff and a confirmation of 10-19 on a req.6 staff
@Luke D:
I'm sure the values I've posted for staves base stats are far off the possible maximums - it's extremelly hard to get all 3 values on a low level staff at their maximums AND it's still not proven if that's even possible - if the stats are generated independantly or if they're somehow interconnected.
For example a req.8 18/10/11-21 staff may be the best we have at the moment, but 19%HSR is surely possible on a req.8, so we should look out for a better one...
...and even a 20% might be an extremelly narrow possibility.
@Pleikki: Thanks for that screenshot, 6-27 Req.8 Axe was something I obviously expected to be possible and likely seen before, just haven't recorded seeing one drop post-nerf. (Theoretically it shouldn't be more rare than a 15-22 req.8 sword). At least we got it now here confirmed for everyone.
@Bright Star Shine: 11-21 req.7 drop seems unbelievable - I'd have to see to believe, although DoA speedclears are one of the best places to look out for such items - lots of items, they don't get picked up, watch the white/blue trash on the ground, they have exactly the level we want for finding best possible base stats for req.7 and req.8!
@Red Fireball: Thanks for that low req staff screenshot, awesome, 14% HSR on a no req staff and a confirmation of 10-19 on a req.6 staff
@Luke D:
I'm sure the values I've posted for staves base stats are far off the possible maximums - it's extremelly hard to get all 3 values on a low level staff at their maximums AND it's still not proven if that's even possible - if the stats are generated independantly or if they're somehow interconnected.
For example a req.8 18/10/11-21 staff may be the best we have at the moment, but 19%HSR is surely possible on a req.8, so we should look out for a better one...
...and even a 20% might be an extremelly narrow possibility.
@Pleikki: Thanks for that screenshot, 6-27 Req.8 Axe was something I obviously expected to be possible and likely seen before, just haven't recorded seeing one drop post-nerf. (Theoretically it shouldn't be more rare than a 15-22 req.8 sword). At least we got it now here confirmed for everyone.
sixdartbart
Yawgmoth
Ofcourse I've meant dropping now, because of this:
(probably the only one ever, but 11-21 were known to drop in the old days)
(probably the only one ever, but 11-21 were known to drop in the old days)
obastable
Had this drop in Dalada Uplands today.
R5 wand, 10-17
Hope it helps your research!
R5 wand, 10-17
Hope it helps your research!
guildwnerd
found this axe today while feather farming.
idk if it helps your research but i'll put it here anyways
idk if it helps your research but i'll put it here anyways
Raven Wing
Found this req5 wand. I know they exist higher than 9-14 but this one got a maxed inherent.
LicensedLuny
EDITED entire post after cleaning out my SS folder ... and then again after taking lots of recent shots ...
Most of this dropped in NM Glint's Challenge in Oct. 2010. The oldest drop pictured is from June 2010. So these are all "recent" drops.
Sorry if there are already the same or better recorded. I tried to look through the thread, but I have trouble keeping track of everything. I figure it's better to post the picture in case you need it than risk missing out on an example.
Cheers!
EDIT ...
I took the following shots of things that dropped on Oct. 18 while cruising about NM Crystal Desert maps and missions. So they're all recent and inherent examples. They're probably not max. possible, but they're pictures to use until we get better!
sword r7 13-18
axe r6 6-21
hammer r8 17-30
wand r8 10-20
... and then I noticed this when sorting through a mule's inventory. I don't remember when/where/how I got it, but it's obviously postnerf since it's a spear with an insc. slot.
spear r6 13-22
... I'll update the big list two posts below to include these.
EDIT - Feb. 12, 2012 - fixing thumb links to direct instead of photobucket album
Most of this dropped in NM Glint's Challenge in Oct. 2010. The oldest drop pictured is from June 2010. So these are all "recent" drops.
- Focus
- Noninsc. focus (Jeweled Chakram) r8 en+12 (dropped in NM ToPK Sept. 2010)
- Wand
- Insc. wand (crimson claw scepter) r8 10-19 clearly not max b/c of below
- Insc. wand (cane) r7 10-19
- Insc. wand (channeling rod) r4 9-15 damage
- Staff
- Insc. staff (hypnotic) r7 16/9/10-19
- Insc. staff (clairvoyant) r6 16/9/9-17 (likely not max possible based on other posts here)
- Insc. staff (eerie) r5 16/8/10-16
- Shield - None of this is news, but here are example pics if needed.
- Insc r8 ar 16 (had this for a while, but clearly post-nerf)
- "noninsc" shield (shadow) r8 ar16 (A Shadow Mesmer dropped this for me during Slaves of Menzies quest in FoW, NM, on Oct. 15, 2010.)
- Insc r7 ar15 (had this for a while, but clearly post-nerf)
- Insc r6 ar 14 (had this for a while, but clearly post-nerf)
- Insc. shield (skull) r4 ar12
- Insc r0 ar 8 (sold this one about a year ago, but clearly post-nerf)
- Daggers
- Insc. daggers (crude) r8 7-16
- Insc. daggers (stilletos) r5 6-13
- Insc. daggers (arrowblade) r0 4-7
- Spears
- Insc. spear (banded) r8 13-25
- Insc. spear (lesser guardian) r7 13-24
- insc. spear (solemn) r6 11-21
- insc. spear (crenellated) r5 10-17
- Insc. spear (windblade) r3 8-12
- Insc. spear (crenellated) r0 3-5
- Scythes
- Insc. scythe (briarwood) r7 9-34
- Insc. scythe (embossed) r6 9-27 (clearly not max, but I didn't realize until the picture was finished.)
- Insc. scythe (suntouched) r5 9-27
- Insc. scythe (crenellated) r6 10-26 (Is that max for 10 damage start?)
- Insc. scythe (briarwood) r4 9-24
- Insc. scythe (hooked) r1 8-17
- Insc. scythe (suntouched) r0 4-7
- Bows
- insc bow (shortbow) r6 13-23
- insc bow (maplewood longbow) r5 11-19
- insc bow (shortbow) r2 10-15
- Swords
- insc. sword (gilded edge) r4 11-15
- Insc. sword (scimitar) r2 8-10
- Hammers
- insc. hammer (copper crusher) r7 16-28
- Noninsc. hammer (war) r4 14-22
- Insc. hammer (spiked) r2 10-15
Sorry if there are already the same or better recorded. I tried to look through the thread, but I have trouble keeping track of everything. I figure it's better to post the picture in case you need it than risk missing out on an example.
Cheers!
EDIT ...
I took the following shots of things that dropped on Oct. 18 while cruising about NM Crystal Desert maps and missions. So they're all recent and inherent examples. They're probably not max. possible, but they're pictures to use until we get better!
sword r7 13-18
axe r6 6-21
hammer r8 17-30
wand r8 10-20
... and then I noticed this when sorting through a mule's inventory. I don't remember when/where/how I got it, but it's obviously postnerf since it's a spear with an insc. slot.
spear r6 13-22
... I'll update the big list two posts below to include these.
EDIT - Feb. 12, 2012 - fixing thumb links to direct instead of photobucket album
Robot Devil
I got this recently
Ben Greenwood
Got this a few months ago.
As well as a Gold Insc r7 11e Aureate Lamp
Also 2 nice insc no-reqs Spear and Scythe.
As well as a Gold Insc r7 11e Aureate Lamp
Also 2 nice insc no-reqs Spear and Scythe.
Dzjudz
Dzjudz
Thanks for updating the list!
Here's a picture for you:
Here's a picture for you:
Showtime
r6 Accursed Icon Blue Inscribable
Energy +11
Req 6 Curses
Use it when my war or ranger wants to mop lol.
r7 Voltaic Wand Blue Inscribable
Eart Dmg 10-18
Req 7 Energy Storage
r7 Crenalated Sword Gold Inscribable
Dmg 12-17
Has energy inscription.
I had some others... everyone said just merch like a r8 inscribable fire wand for my low level elem. Gotta find it for damage.. def not max.
Edit:
Blue Dragons Breath Wand r8 fire
Fire dmg 10-19
inscribable
Blue Flame artifact r7 fire
Energy +11
Inscribable
Energy +11
Req 6 Curses
Use it when my war or ranger wants to mop lol.
r7 Voltaic Wand Blue Inscribable
Eart Dmg 10-18
Req 7 Energy Storage
r7 Crenalated Sword Gold Inscribable
Dmg 12-17
Has energy inscription.
I had some others... everyone said just merch like a r8 inscribable fire wand for my low level elem. Gotta find it for damage.. def not max.
Edit:
Blue Dragons Breath Wand r8 fire
Fire dmg 10-19
inscribable
Blue Flame artifact r7 fire
Energy +11
Inscribable
LicensedLuny
I just noticed this on a PC thread ...In case it gets wiped, it's a screenshot of the info tag of a purple "Crenellated Spear" with an inscription slot. It's r0 8-12
...
I am finally DONE cleaning out all of my screenshots!!! cleaaaaaaannnnnnn! I found one more useful shot for this thread.
r3 inherent, postnerf focus with 8 energy
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I am finally DONE cleaning out all of my screenshots!!! cleaaaaaaannnnnnn! I found one more useful shot for this thread.
r3 inherent, postnerf focus with 8 energy
following spirit
Im sure i took a screenie of the R7 14-25 celestial bow ill look tonight and post so it can be a confirmed value
_Todeshand_
Got this at Vizunah Square NM today. Actually just white crap, but pretty close to max for a req7 Staff. You can need screens like that?
E: Now that I think of it I'm quite sure I also once had a white req8 11-21 bo-staff droping at Halcyon Job. Merch'ed it though. Same will happen to that whitey staffy boy
E: Now that I think of it I'm quite sure I also once had a white req8 11-21 bo-staff droping at Halcyon Job. Merch'ed it though. Same will happen to that whitey staffy boy
Yawgmoth
How nice to see this thread alive again!
So much new stuff here I won't be able to comment on all right now.
I haven't been playing much in the last months so no new stuff, but will still check this thread and update my personal data for research from the reliable screenshots.
@LicensedLuny - thanks for getting all the info together. But one thing I don't see a point of is separation of inherent and inscribable sources - the only thing that matters is whether the item is confirmed to have dropped after the nerf or it may be coming from before it.
You have missed my Q7 staff from first page - 16/10/11-20
I found my screenshot of it:
It was pretty shocking but it dropped from a HM Locked chest (I couldn't believe then but now I know exactly why it was possible)
brb with more
So much new stuff here I won't be able to comment on all right now.
I haven't been playing much in the last months so no new stuff, but will still check this thread and update my personal data for research from the reliable screenshots.
@LicensedLuny - thanks for getting all the info together. But one thing I don't see a point of is separation of inherent and inscribable sources - the only thing that matters is whether the item is confirmed to have dropped after the nerf or it may be coming from before it.
You have missed my Q7 staff from first page - 16/10/11-20
I found my screenshot of it:
It was pretty shocking but it dropped from a HM Locked chest (I couldn't believe then but now I know exactly why it was possible)
brb with more
gw_poster
gold: q5 tac / AL 13 WOODEN buckler uninsc -5/19%, 20% vs dazed...dropped from birdies on cantha noob island >1 yr ago (these birds drop cool low-level stuff quite often)
gold: q5 11-17 uninsc plagueborn recurve bow 15^50...cantha noob land >1 yr ago
blue: 0 req/ 8 AL inscrib sharktooth shield - can't remember where i got it
if you care, i can post screens
Edit: wooden not ornate buckler
gold: q5 11-17 uninsc plagueborn recurve bow 15^50...cantha noob land >1 yr ago
blue: 0 req/ 8 AL inscrib sharktooth shield - can't remember where i got it
if you care, i can post screens
Edit: wooden not ornate buckler
jimbo32
Luny's got me confused. I was under the impression that swords, axes, hammers, bows and daggers were still available (though rare) as q8 max drops. There certainly seems to be quite a few of them around.
So, assuming I was mistaken, what items are still available as max req8's? Just swords, shields, and focii?
So, assuming I was mistaken, what items are still available as max req8's? Just swords, shields, and focii?
LicensedLuny
Ok, so first, attached (at the bottom of this rather long post) are some shots of things that just dropped in the past 24 hrs during a NM Warband of Brothers run.
insc. r7 hammer 17-30
insc. r5 hammer 11-17 based on other pics we have, this is nowhere near max ... sorry for including it.
insc. r7 staff 16/9/11-19
EDIT - Dec. 15, 2010 - It seems I've hit a cap or glitch with guru attachments, so I'm editing all my posts here with photobucket-hosted versions of these pics instead
EDIT - Feb. 12, 2012 - fixing thumb links to direct instead of photobucket album
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Must not let it die! The more people hunting best stats for this stuff, the better!
I think it's safe to say you have the record for most reports by far. So any and all screenshot examples you can show us are awesome! I can't promise to do so for an indefinite length of time, but I'll try to keep my earlier post updated with new replies as long as I can (or post a new one and keep it updated if Ari copies mine into the OP at some point.)
Ok, a couple reasons for that ...
1) I wasn't sure if it's confirmed, agreed, understood by majority, etc. that new insc. and new inherent sources are guaranteed to have the same base max possible stats. If that's the case, I'm fine with it! It's simply not one of the things I know for sure (like the way I know for sure 15-22 insc. swords are possible even though we have no screenshot on this thread.)
2) I've had a little bit of experience building summary tables like the one I put together up there. I find it's much easier in the long run to build them from scratch with more info/options than less. Going back and editing things out of the lists is a lot easier than going back and editing things in.
Oops, sorry! Thanks for catching the omission and letting me know. I'll update list with that pic!
EDIT ... Ok, I still don't see it on the first page, but no worries since we have it here now. I went to put it on the list, but I can't tell if it's insc. or inh. source drop??? Until we all agree or confirm or whatever that there's no difference, I don't know which r7 staff line to list that on!
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Imo, screenshots are way better than claims! There's no need if we already have shots of an item with the same or better stats. I can't update the OP myself, but check this post where I'm keeping an updated list. Ideally, we'll get ss proof of everything listed on the table eventually.
You mention things dropping ">1 yr ago" So, they dropped before or after the initial release of Nightfall??? That's the cutoff we use for pre vs. postnerf drops.
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If I could still have a sig, I would use this quote!
GOOD QUESTION! I'd like to know, too! I thought they were all still theoretically possible as max r8 drops from inherent source areas, and only swords, shields and foci were possible as max r8 from inscribable source areas.
wtb Yawgmoth's explanation! I'd even link it in my "useful info" thread that died somewhere in this ventari's discussion section when it first opened.
insc. r7 hammer 17-30
insc. r5 hammer 11-17 based on other pics we have, this is nowhere near max ... sorry for including it.
insc. r7 staff 16/9/11-19
EDIT - Dec. 15, 2010 - It seems I've hit a cap or glitch with guru attachments, so I'm editing all my posts here with photobucket-hosted versions of these pics instead
EDIT - Feb. 12, 2012 - fixing thumb links to direct instead of photobucket album
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Must not let it die! The more people hunting best stats for this stuff, the better!
I think it's safe to say you have the record for most reports by far. So any and all screenshot examples you can show us are awesome! I can't promise to do so for an indefinite length of time, but I'll try to keep my earlier post updated with new replies as long as I can (or post a new one and keep it updated if Ari copies mine into the OP at some point.)
Quote:
@LicensedLuny - thanks for getting all the info together. But one thing I don't see a point of is separation of inherent and inscribable sources - the only thing that matters is whether the item is confirmed to have dropped after the nerf or it may be coming from before it. |
1) I wasn't sure if it's confirmed, agreed, understood by majority, etc. that new insc. and new inherent sources are guaranteed to have the same base max possible stats. If that's the case, I'm fine with it! It's simply not one of the things I know for sure (like the way I know for sure 15-22 insc. swords are possible even though we have no screenshot on this thread.)
2) I've had a little bit of experience building summary tables like the one I put together up there. I find it's much easier in the long run to build them from scratch with more info/options than less. Going back and editing things out of the lists is a lot easier than going back and editing things in.
Quote:
You have missed my Q7 staff from first page - 16/10/11-20 I found my screenshot of it: It was pretty shocking but it dropped from a HM Locked chest (I couldn't believe then but now I know exactly why it was possible) brb with more |
EDIT ... Ok, I still don't see it on the first page, but no worries since we have it here now. I went to put it on the list, but I can't tell if it's insc. or inh. source drop??? Until we all agree or confirm or whatever that there's no difference, I don't know which r7 staff line to list that on!
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Imo, screenshots are way better than claims! There's no need if we already have shots of an item with the same or better stats. I can't update the OP myself, but check this post where I'm keeping an updated list. Ideally, we'll get ss proof of everything listed on the table eventually.
You mention things dropping ">1 yr ago" So, they dropped before or after the initial release of Nightfall??? That's the cutoff we use for pre vs. postnerf drops.
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If I could still have a sig, I would use this quote!
Quote:
I was under the impression that swords, axes, hammers, bows and daggers were still available (though rare) as q8 max drops. There certainly seems to be quite a few of them around. So, assuming I was mistaken, what items are still available as max req8's? Just swords, shields, and focii? |
wtb Yawgmoth's explanation! I'd even link it in my "useful info" thread that died somewhere in this ventari's discussion section when it first opened.
Pleikki
Quote:
Luny's got me confused. I was under the impression that swords, axes, hammers, bows and daggers were still available (though rare) as q8 max drops. There certainly seems to be quite a few of them around.
So, assuming I was mistaken, what items are still available as max req8's? Just swords, shields, and focii? |
We tried discuss it before here
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/c...t10440385.html
And for Sofar there hasnt been rly confirmed drops.. .. So guess they wont drop until theyre confirmed. Ive been personally trying like mad find some gold/purple canthan sword/Shield with no succees, Found Only dozens and dozens offhands. and white shields.
_Todeshand_
Aaaaaw, I guess Yawg pawned my ugly staff by +1Energy then
For the req8s: only Swords, Shields and Offhands seem to drop anymore since Nightfall release. I roughly understand why, but I know that Yawg can explain this way better than me (You still owe me that charts on req7 Axe edge etc. )
For the req8s: only Swords, Shields and Offhands seem to drop anymore since Nightfall release. I roughly understand why, but I know that Yawg can explain this way better than me (You still owe me that charts on req7 Axe edge etc. )
Showtime
Cockatrice staff r5 communing white
dmg 9-16 (1 more than one list on the 1st page)
HSR 15%
r8 dom celestial gold
dmg 10-20
+10 energy
HSR 18%
Are you going to update findings?
Good way for you to get people interested and maybe help some people's collections, btw.
dmg 9-16 (1 more than one list on the 1st page)
HSR 15%
r8 dom celestial gold
dmg 10-20
+10 energy
HSR 18%
Are you going to update findings?
Good way for you to get people interested and maybe help some people's collections, btw.
following spirit
hope this works screenie of
R4 +9e icon
and the celestial bow
also had a stormbow (blue) with the same drop last night
Well thats a fail lol gotta work out how to increase its size
well the attachment works better
Icon dropped in Proph, maguuma area
R4 +9e icon
and the celestial bow
also had a stormbow (blue) with the same drop last night
Well thats a fail lol gotta work out how to increase its size
well the attachment works better
Icon dropped in Proph, maguuma area
Dzjudz
^ That's actually R4 +9e, not R5 .