GW Gear Stat Ranges by Req. (formerly "Low Req Weapons - Stats and Gallery!")
Icecream
Just found this
Yawgmoth
While I do my own research independantly, I don't need to screenshot items, I just put down the stats, making screenshots only in rare cases when an item exceeds my expectations, or just impresses me in some way, but just happened to come by a scythe you don't have here:
I'm 100% sure there's NO difference, there's just ONE item generation algorithm in GW, it just uses different parameters when generating specific parts of an item (for example different parameters determine if it should generate inherent mods or inscription, or which set of possible mods to select from). Item's base stats and requirements are dependant only on one parameter - the item's level.
If the item has no attribute (no req) or it's a staff coming from before the update (no matter the req), the mods that read an attribute from it will display as "item's attribute" instead, those mods do nothing - they're just blanks on that item.
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Originally Posted by End
Do people actually expect there to be a difference in numbers between inherent or insc sources? or is it just there to be through (damn I can't spell late at night).
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Originally Posted by jimbo32
So since there isn't any "item's attribute", I'm guessing the wrap likely does nothing?
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LicensedLuny
Ok, first, I've got a picture of an r8 insc. bow 14-26 until we get the 14-27 picture. This dropped last night in NM DoA.
EDIT - Oops, had the insc. one already! And I merched the inherent one I got thinking it was that one we had an example pic of already.
EDIT - Dec. 15, 2010 - It seems I've hit a cap or glitch with guru attachments, so I'm editing all my posts here with photobucket-hosted versions of these pics instead
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Now, to reply to the last few posts as needed ...
Thanks for the pics! I agree, it's marvelously weird! I'm not sure it really belongs in the main list, though, as that's not proof that, say, a gold one could drop.
No, I don't expect a difference. Yawgmoth is sure there's no difference, and I certainly believe he's got the experience to back up his certainty. I simply figured why not keep the list with room for inherent and inscribable reports - in the end, we'll have pictures to prove there's no difference!
Yes, very rare!
But without it ID'ed, I can't tell if that's an inherent or inscribable "Tower Shield" 
Raven Wing left us a nice pic of inherent source r0 8ar shield later on, so no worries this time. But in the future, please ID them for the screenshots? Or just remember to tell us where it dropped when you post it?
I know the Koi came from Factions. Where did the Ball Hammer drop?
"Not labeled correctly" ... what do you mean? I've got your r0 hammer listed as an "inscribable source" r0 - was it from inherent source areas?
And yeah, it is ... but not as big a pita as reading through the thread each time I found something I thought might be a new record. That's what finally drove me to compile an up-to-date list. And you're welcome!
FWIW, I hope anyone feels free to double-check the OP and let me know if they see any problems (broken links, missed reports, mis-listings, typos, etc.) I'm nowhere near so good at this that I'd never make a mistake. I do try to spot errors, but the way that OP gets updated I'm sure it would be easy to miss some.
Ok, next I'll work on rolling all the recent reports into the OP.
Thanks for all the submissions folks! Keep 'em coming!
EDIT - Oops, had the insc. one already! And I merched the inherent one I got thinking it was that one we had an example pic of already.
EDIT - Dec. 15, 2010 - It seems I've hit a cap or glitch with guru attachments, so I'm editing all my posts here with photobucket-hosted versions of these pics instead
EDIT - Feb. 12, 2012 - fixing thumb links to direct instead of photobucket album
Now, to reply to the last few posts as needed ...
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Originally Posted by bsoltan
I don't know if the following counts (as it isn't a drop) but I'm sure it was a reward from a quest in Prophecies, being one for 'weird weapons' I kept it around but it has a 10-14 req3.
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Originally Posted by End
One quick question that I suppose can go in here...since it's what this threads about kinda...
Do people actually expect there to be a difference in numbers between inherent or insc sources? or is it just there to be through (damn I can't spell late at night). On a side note to back up that claim there xD I know these are uber rare |
Yes, very rare!
But without it ID'ed, I can't tell if that's an inherent or inscribable "Tower Shield" Raven Wing left us a nice pic of inherent source r0 8ar shield later on, so no worries this time. But in the future, please ID them for the screenshots? Or just remember to tell us where it dropped when you post it?Quote:
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Originally Posted by Showtime
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Not that it really matters but those r0 inherent and inscriptable hammers are not labeled correctly.. Compiling info is a pita. Thx for doing it. 
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And yeah, it is ... but not as big a pita as reading through the thread each time I found something I thought might be a new record. That's what finally drove me to compile an up-to-date list. And you're welcome!
FWIW, I hope anyone feels free to double-check the OP and let me know if they see any problems (broken links, missed reports, mis-listings, typos, etc.) I'm nowhere near so good at this that I'd never make a mistake. I do try to spot errors, but the way that OP gets updated I'm sure it would be easy to miss some.
Ok, next I'll work on rolling all the recent reports into the OP.
Thanks for all the submissions folks! Keep 'em coming!
Pleikki
Raven Wing
Im making trips to certain places where I believe there can be good drops to fill out the lower positions in the lists. Then if there is a promising drop i check the list and then drag u map down so it shows in the screenie besides the drop on ground. For most of them it doesnt matter if they are ID or not.Or would you like me to change that?
BTW I guess some trips in snowman dungeon nm would yield more stuff to put in
BTW I guess some trips in snowman dungeon nm would yield more stuff to put in
N E D M
hi gang
just got blue inscription slot 6-27 req8 crescent axe while vanq in the alkali pan.
will post pic tomorrow morn when i get back to my real pc (posting from work now, lol)
edit : here it is
just got blue inscription slot 6-27 req8 crescent axe while vanq in the alkali pan.
will post pic tomorrow morn when i get back to my real pc (posting from work now, lol)
edit : here it is
LicensedLuny
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Originally Posted by Raven Wing
Im making trips to certain places where I believe there can be good drops to fill out the lower positions in the lists. Then if there is a promising drop i check the list and then drag u map down so it shows in the screenie besides the drop on ground. For most of them it doesnt matter if they are ID or not.Or would you like me to change that?
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I don't suspect anyone is intentionally faking these reports, but I do know how easy it can be to misremember a number or make a typo, etc. That's why, ideally, I'd like to get example pictures of the item tags for every record. If we get claims of something without a picture, I list the best record by claim and the best record by picture until we get a picture to match both.
I'm not likely to stand firm on "screenshot or it didn't happen," unless someone is claiming something really extrodinary ... like max r7 dropping today, or an r2 12 ar shield.
I've got reports listed in the OP as "claims" or "pics" just to help folks with quick-reference see if they need to bother taking a pic and uploading it here when they get a high stat for low req drop.
LicensedLuny
Nice, thanks! Is that sword also from inherent areas? I'm assuming it is.
Here's a pic of an inherent r7 10-19 wand I got earlier.
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Here's a pic of an inherent r7 10-19 wand I got earlier.
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BuD
Got this today farmin Sensali in Jaya Bluffs, saw on first post "claim of r4 5-9 daggers". Can be marked as proven?
Raven Wing
I cleared Deldrimor Bowl and got a few low wnd items, and then got some more while farming coins for Nicky. So these 5 items are inherent sources.
LicensedLuny
Ok, a couple drops from last night.
The staff dropped in NM Iron Mines of Moladune; the daggers in HM Rhea's Crater.
The daggers are r8 7-15 until we get the 7-16 picture.
The staff is r7 16/9/10-18.
I'm not listing the staff in OP, as it doesn't break any records. However, I thought Yawg and others might like to see it for comparison with the other r7 staff reports. It looks like there is no hard link between HSR, En, and Dmg on staff stats. So now, for r7 Staffs, we've seen at least ...
* 16/10/11-20 (pic from Yawgmoth)
* 17/8/9-17 (pic from LicensedLuny)
* 16/9/10-18 from this pic.
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* 16/9/11-19 as inscribable.
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The staff dropped in NM Iron Mines of Moladune; the daggers in HM Rhea's Crater.
The daggers are r8 7-15 until we get the 7-16 picture.
The staff is r7 16/9/10-18.
I'm not listing the staff in OP, as it doesn't break any records. However, I thought Yawg and others might like to see it for comparison with the other r7 staff reports. It looks like there is no hard link between HSR, En, and Dmg on staff stats. So now, for r7 Staffs, we've seen at least ...
* 16/10/11-20 (pic from Yawgmoth)
* 17/8/9-17 (pic from LicensedLuny)
* 16/9/10-18 from this pic.
and
* 16/9/11-19 as inscribable.
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following spirit
screenshot stopped working on my Zboard keyset now so i cant do any "assigned" screenshots, hopefully it'll be ok to check and screenshot after each run once ive swapped keysets over.If thats ok? i'll start posting again any items i find.
LicensedLuny
Bummer, sorry! I don't mind if the screenshots come after they've been picked up and id'ed, no. Unless it's something really unbelievable (like, say, a max r7 axe drop) I doubt anyone will take issue with such shots. Please do be careful to let us know where it dropped, so we know if it's inherent or inscribable source.
following spirit
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Unless it's something really unbelievable (like, say, a max r7 axe drop) .
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Rushin Roulette
This dropped today from farming the Copper coins for Nick (Factions noob island during the Siege at Tsumei Village). Its one off from the OP in terms of wanding maximum damage from the claim, but more importantly it shows a single mod (50% of the max possible stats).
I guess you can use that as a place holder until the claim is backed up by someone posting a pic of a 7-11 damage r0 Wand .
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Also found this r2 Axe from the same run. Its the same damage as listed in your PO, but it has a damage modifier if your also looking at the damage modifiers on each level;
I guess you can use that as a place holder until the claim is backed up by someone posting a pic of a 7-11 damage r0 Wand
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Also found this r2 Axe from the same run. Its the same damage as listed in your PO, but it has a damage modifier if your also looking at the damage modifiers on each level;
obastable
Some loot from farming Traveler items yesterday - all inherent source (Factions).
Details in case pics don't load:
Staff - HSR 12%/+5e/7-10 r1
Cane - 7-11 r3
Hammer - 13-19 r3
Daggers - 6-13 r5
Details in case pics don't load:
Staff - HSR 12%/+5e/7-10 r1
Cane - 7-11 r3
Hammer - 13-19 r3
Daggers - 6-13 r5
Raven Wing
Found req3wand farming nicky and then a req4 bow in Tangle Root.
jaddi
just got this from Glints Challenge
Butterfly Sword 12-17 r5
Enethyl Nagiwe
Hey guys hopes this helps a bit
Dropped like this i think (not sure bout the +30hp mod, but i've never used it so my guess
i only kept it for that, but as i'm saying not sure)
Dropped in Prophesies a couple of months ago while farming Tengu for feathers
Dropped like this i think (not sure bout the +30hp mod, but i've never used it so my guess
i only kept it for that, but as i'm saying not sure)
Dropped in Prophesies a couple of months ago while farming Tengu for feathers
following spirit
bow Inherent Sources: 14-27 (claim by Yawgmoth)
I had a r8 14-27 white stormbow drop in UW, i'll add screen shot later
I had a r8 14-27 white stormbow drop in UW, i'll add screen shot later
fallenangel
Heya, found 2 more for you.
Yawgmoth
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bow Inherent Sources: 14-27 (claim by Yawgmoth)
I had a r8 14-27 white stormbow drop in UW, i'll add screen shot later |
posting because screenshots are important here.
I also see the OP has very low stats for req.7 sword. I have reported a 14-20 req.7 back on the first page, if the info is not enough, I have recorded more: It was a gold drop from a level 17 mob in Prophecies, merch value 26g while still unident (stats after id not recorded but unimportant). Dropped this year.
LicensedLuny
Ok, OP has been updated.
Thanks! When I was first trying to sort through this and get a list compiled in a reply (before they used mod-power-magic to make me the OP,) there were quite a few posts where I simply couldn't be sure if people were claiming pre/post NF drops and/or inherent or inscription. I just left those out, hoping once we had more details in the compiled list folks would help us out by including such specifics. So there are probably still some claims or pics from the first couple pages of this thread which I've never listed for lack of knowing quite where to list them.
I know you're sure there's no difference between inherent and inscribable stuff. It's not that I don't believe you - not at all! I simply don't see the reason to miss this opportunity to prove the theory with screenshots, that's all.
So, thanks to everyone for the reports!!! (especially thanks to Yawg ... as I can tell the way I'm doing this and my stress of screenshots bugs you at least a little bit. I'm glad it's not so annoying that you refuse to contribute!)
Keep 'em coming folks!
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
I also see the OP has very low stats for req.7 sword. I have reported a 14-20 req.7 back on the first page, if the info is not enough, I have recorded more: It was a gold drop from a level 17 mob in Prophecies, merch value 26g while still unident (stats after id not recorded but unimportant). Dropped this year.
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I know you're sure there's no difference between inherent and inscribable stuff. It's not that I don't believe you - not at all! I simply don't see the reason to miss this opportunity to prove the theory with screenshots, that's all.
So, thanks to everyone for the reports!!! (especially thanks to Yawg ... as I can tell the way I'm doing this and my stress of screenshots bugs you at least a little bit.
I'm glad it's not so annoying that you refuse to contribute!)Keep 'em coming folks!
Red Fireball
seems I didn´t post max req0 hammer yet, so I´ll do that now! Also added some other req0 screens. (hammer dropped ~5months ago in northlands, bow ~3months ago same place, sword 2 weeks ago same place, purple bow bought from online player)
here a list of max for req0 weps inh source: presearing.com (2nd box from bottom)
can confirm all still droppable post-nerf, except from bow and staff: bow my max is 9-13, staff/wand: 7-11
here a list of max for req0 weps inh source: presearing.com (2nd box from bottom)
can confirm all still droppable post-nerf, except from bow and staff: bow my max is 9-13, staff/wand: 7-11
Luke D
I just got some no req 4-7 daggers while farming for Nick, so we can add them to the "Inherent Sources" section. 14 vs hexed woot! The pictures are the same daggers. I just did before/after identifying for fun.
And for those who are curious, they came from a chest. Retained that lockpick too (good thing).
And for those who are curious, they came from a chest. Retained that lockpick too (good thing).
LawQ
Came across this buyinunid's golds
LicensedLuny
Trying to keep these from filling up HDD as I wander about.
Some drops from Nov. 12, 2010, two while farming copper coins for Nick and one while completing zBounty from the other day.
r8 "inscribable" bow 14-27
(It dropped in Kourna from one of those plant paragon things.)
r0 inherent wand 7-11
r0 inherent focus +6
(I think both those came from Shing Jea Chests rather than foes, but I'm not postive. gogo easy lucky points!)
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I also got an r8 14-27 bow in NM Stygian Veil the other day which actually has an inscription slot, so that picture is here now, too.
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Some drops from Nov. 12, 2010, two while farming copper coins for Nick and one while completing zBounty from the other day.
r8 "inscribable" bow 14-27
(It dropped in Kourna from one of those plant paragon things.)
r0 inherent wand 7-11
r0 inherent focus +6
(I think both those came from Shing Jea Chests rather than foes, but I'm not postive. gogo easy lucky points!)
EDIT - Dec. 15, 2010 - It seems I've hit a cap or glitch with guru attachments, so I'm editing all my posts here with photobucket-hosted versions of these pics instead ...
I also got an r8 14-27 bow in NM Stygian Veil the other day which actually has an inscription slot, so that picture is here now, too.
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Yawgmoth
I think I've mentioned it before but will repeat: The 40g chests (Ascalon, Shing Jea, Istan) are by far the BEST source for highest no req items.
So if someone's going for the Lucky title, watch the drops, we need especially:
*Hammer (the PreSearing list has MANY errors, for example 8-12wand/staff can't have no req, and I remember reading about better Hammers found in Pre, but long ago and didn't save screenshots)
*Daggers (I expect a 4-8 might be possible, not sure though)
*Scythe (guesstimating a 6-19 or even 6-20 might be possible)
So if someone's going for the Lucky title, watch the drops, we need especially:
*Hammer (the PreSearing list has MANY errors, for example 8-12wand/staff can't have no req, and I remember reading about better Hammers found in Pre, but long ago and didn't save screenshots)
*Daggers (I expect a 4-8 might be possible, not sure though)
*Scythe (guesstimating a 6-19 or even 6-20 might be possible)
Jk Arrow
This past week I got this while heading to EotN from LA in NM.
Ben Greenwood
Just got today.
one higher then the current r2 hammer
one higher then the current r2 hammer
Jk Arrow
Also got this staff today outside Sunspear Hall NM.
LicensedLuny
Ok, first, I found an r8 14-26 Spear and took a picture.
Second, I've been wondering about staffs. Does anyone know if purple or blue staffs dropped as loot (not counting collector/crafter versions) can have max 20/10/11-22 stats? It seems like all the purple and blue r9+ staffs I get these days are always well below max base stats. Other gear's max stats don't seem to be affected by text color, but I'm wondering if staffs are a different case. (Yawg must know. Hopefully, he'll tell us.)
EDIT - Thanks very much to fallenangel for the pic of an inscribable max purple staff and to Yawgmoth for the pic of an inherent max purple staff and the info on the max cap for blues and whites! Those answer my question perfectly, thank you!
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Given the concern over inaccuracies in the presearing tables, I'm not going to list those tables as claims in the OP here. I hope there are no hard feelings.
Cheers folks
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Second, I've been wondering about staffs. Does anyone know if purple or blue staffs dropped as loot (not counting collector/crafter versions) can have max 20/10/11-22 stats? It seems like all the purple and blue r9+ staffs I get these days are always well below max base stats. Other gear's max stats don't seem to be affected by text color, but I'm wondering if staffs are a different case. (Yawg must know. Hopefully, he'll tell us.)
EDIT - Thanks very much to fallenangel for the pic of an inscribable max purple staff and to Yawgmoth for the pic of an inherent max purple staff and the info on the max cap for blues and whites! Those answer my question perfectly, thank you!
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Given the concern over inaccuracies in the presearing tables, I'm not going to list those tables as claims in the OP here. I hope there are no hard feelings.
Cheers folks
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Ling
Dropped for me in Nebo Terrace during a WiK quest. Max damage is 1 higher then the one currently listed.
- Ling
Red Fireball
hey luny, tyvm for keeping this thread up to date, I really like the nice pics in here^^ I especially like the inscr. req0 items :-)
well just one thing: there is mentioned there was a sword req0 8-11, but the screenie shows it´s req2! max for req0 is 8-10, I posted some of these before yet (see post #184) - ty
well just one thing: there is mentioned there was a sword req0 8-11, but the screenie shows it´s req2! max for req0 is 8-10, I posted some of these before yet (see post #184) - ty
Davros Uitar
I have an r0 sword on my necro
Briar Blade
Damage 6-9
Inscriptable (plan on putting on a +5E - currently 11% Guided by Fate)
20% longer enchanting
It dropped about 2 months ago.
Briar Blade
Damage 6-9
Inscriptable (plan on putting on a +5E - currently 11% Guided by Fate)
20% longer enchanting
It dropped about 2 months ago.
apoggy
Req 2 Hammer inherant 10-15 dmg
Ascalon chest
Req 3 wand, inherant 9-14 dmg
Steel Chest
Ascalon chest
Req 3 wand, inherant 9-14 dmg
Steel Chest
LicensedLuny
Thanks for all the replies folks! OP is updated.
Thank you Red! Good catch! I have updated the OP accordingly. (The non-English screenshots are proving to be especially easy for me to misread. But I can still mess up with English shots, too!)
If anyone sees a problem, mistake, or omission with the OP, please speak up about it! It's always a good idea to double check me!
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hey luny, tyvm for keeping this thread up to date, I really like the nice pics in here^^ I especially like the inscr. req0 items :-)
well just one thing: there is mentioned there was a sword req0 8-11, but the screenie shows it´s req2! max for req0 is 8-10, I posted some of these before yet (see post #184) - ty |
But I can still mess up with English shots, too!)If anyone sees a problem, mistake, or omission with the OP, please speak up about it! It's always a good idea to double check me!
fallenangel
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Originally Posted by LicensedLuny
Second, I've been wondering about staffs. Does anyone know if purple or blue staffs dropped as loot (not counting collector/crafter versions) can have max 20/10/11-22 stats? It seems like all the purple and blue r9+ staffs I get these days are always well below max base stats. Other gear's max stats don't seem to be affected by text color, but I'm wondering if staffs are a different case. (Yawg must know. Hopefully, he'll tell us.)
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I think it's safe to say that you won't find it in a req 8 or lower, but req 9 upwards, definitely possible, at least for inscribable ones.