Another drop for the list Luny.
9-13 Damage no requ. inscribable Hammer
Came from an Istani Chest while farming for Nicks items in Mehtani Keys.
GW Gear Stat Ranges by Req. (formerly "Low Req Weapons - Stats and Gallery!")
Rushin Roulette
LicensedLuny
Update log:
List updated up to and including post 269, page 14, Dec. 14, 2010.
List updated up to and including post 281, page 15, Dec. 20, 2010.
List updated up to and including post 281, page 15, Dec. 20, 2010.
- Req. 0 Sword:
- Inscribable Sources: 6-9 (claim by Davros Uitar)
- Inscribable Sources: 7-10 (pic from ubikuo)
- Req. 0 Hammer:
- Inscribable Sources: 7-11 (pic from Showtime)
- Inscribable Sources: 9-13 (pic from Gondrakif)
Sorry Rushin Roulette, but Gondrakif had posted one two days before. I hadn't updated the OP list yet.
- Req. 6 Bow:
- Inscribable Sources: 13-23 (pic from LicensedLuny)
- Inscribable Sources: 13-24 (pic from Bright Star Shine)
- Req. 4 Daggers:
- Inscribable Sources: 5-10 (pic from Red Fireball)
- Inscribable Sources: 6-11 (pic from End)
- Req. 7 Scythe:
- Inscribable Sources:
- 10-35 (pic from Dzjudz)
- 9-36 (pic from fallenangel)
- 9-37 (pic from LicensedLuny)
- Inscribable Sources:
- Req. 2 Scythe:
- Inscribable Sources: 7-15 (claim by Dzjudz)
- Inscribable Sources: 9-18 (pic from Ultimadiorifiamma)
- Req. 6 Wand:
- Inscribable Sources:
- Inscribable Sources: 10-18 (pic from Ultimadiorifiamma)
LifeInfusion
req6 bow, I don't know if it is of use to you. Got it while helping someone with Charr broiled plans. I merched it since it is a shortbow.
Istan:
Also, my personal log from 2 years ago: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:...on/Istan_drops
Bright Star Shine
I quickly read through your log over there, and no, q7 max inscr foci don't exist.. They do exist non-inscr and there are only a few known.. q8 max foci drop a lot though (go do DoASC and you'll see at least 1-2 drop every run, blue or white, and blue's got the chance of havign isncr slot)
LicensedLuny
I've seen AMAZING things offered for sale in Kamadan, too. Invariably, the seller either refuses to show it in trade or shows something which does not match what he was advertising. Most recently, someone was offering to sell an r8 max inscribable hammer. I asked to see it, all ready to take a record-breaking picture for this thread. It wasn't inscribable. There are still quite a few people in game who honestly don't seem to know the difference between inscribable and inherent gear ... and some who misunderstand "max," too. Not everyone reads wikis and/or Guru. That's another reason I like having picture examples here whenever possible.
So far on this thread we're only looking for the maximum stats for each req. I've thought about trying to add minimum stats by req., too. I'm not sure if there are enough people interested in such a thing, though. Since we're on the subject anyway ...
Question to the folks helping with this thread - Would you be interested in and willing to help find the other end of the spectrum for drops here, too? We've been tracking only the highest damage, armor and/or energy for a given req. and, theoretically, finding the game code's upper limits. Should we track the lowest damage, armor, and/or energy, too, and look for the lower limits? Does anyone care?
It would require changing the thread title and reformatting the OP a fair bit. I'm willing to try setting that up if there's significant interest and willingness to find the other limit.
So far on this thread we're only looking for the maximum stats for each req. I've thought about trying to add minimum stats by req., too. I'm not sure if there are enough people interested in such a thing, though. Since we're on the subject anyway ...
Question to the folks helping with this thread - Would you be interested in and willing to help find the other end of the spectrum for drops here, too? We've been tracking only the highest damage, armor and/or energy for a given req. and, theoretically, finding the game code's upper limits. Should we track the lowest damage, armor, and/or energy, too, and look for the lower limits? Does anyone care?
It would require changing the thread title and reformatting the OP a fair bit. I'm willing to try setting that up if there's significant interest and willingness to find the other limit.
Jumping Is Uselss
I was cleaning up my mules when I rediscovered my old magmas shield that I got in Hell's Precipice back in '06.
LifeInfusion
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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
I quickly read through your log over there, and no, q7 max inscr foci don't exist.. They do exist non-inscr and there are only a few known.. q8 max foci drop a lot though (go do DoASC and you'll see at least 1-2 drop every run, blue or white, and blue's got the chance of havign isncr slot)
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Everything on that page was found by me though. And there isn't any reason I would lie about it because if it was extraordinary I would be using it or selling it on guru.
CE Devilman
insc slot to.
Bright Star Shine
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Originally Posted by LicensedLuny
Question to the folks helping with this thread - Would you be interested in and willing to help find the other end of the spectrum for drops here, too? We've been tracking only the highest damage, armor and/or energy for a given req. and, theoretically, finding the game code's upper limits. Should we track the lowest damage, armor, and/or energy, too, and look for the lower limits? Does anyone care?
It would require changing the thread title and reformatting the OP a fair bit. I'm willing to try setting that up if there's significant interest and willingness to find the other limit. |
Btw, on the q7 inscr swords, i'm pretty sure i've seen a 14-21 drop in DoA, but could be mistaking.. Don't take this as a claim, I'll try to find one
my new mission xD
Red Fireball
got a q7 18/10/11-20 fire staff today (in Prophecies) - sry for german screen, unfortunately had merched, when I realised, sry.
LicensedLuny
Update log:
Nothing else which has been posted sets a new record from what was already listed in the OP.
As for the min. stats by req., there doesn't really seem to be sufficient interest to justify setting this up to track those minimum limits. :/ I appreciate the offer to help with it, though, Bright!
Cheers & Happy New Year to all!
List updated up to and including post 281, page 15, Dec. 20, 2010.
List updated up to and including post 291, page 15, Jan. 2, 2011.
List updated up to and including post 291, page 15, Jan. 2, 2011.
- Req. 7 Staff:
- Inherent Sources:
- 16/10/11-20 (pic from Yawgmoth)
- 18/9/10-18 (pic from calou)
- Inherent Sources: 18/10/11-20 (pic from Red Fireball)
- Inherent Sources:
Nothing else which has been posted sets a new record from what was already listed in the OP.
As for the min. stats by req., there doesn't really seem to be sufficient interest to justify setting this up to track those minimum limits. :/ I appreciate the offer to help with it, though, Bright!
Cheers & Happy New Year to all!
Bright Star Shine
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Originally Posted by LicensedLuny
As for the min. stats by req., there doesn't really seem to be sufficient interest to justify setting this up to track those minimum limits. :/ I appreciate the offer to help with it, though, Bright!
Cheers & Happy New Year to all! |
I think most people can't be bothered because there is absolutely no reason in knowing. It WOULD help us understand game mechanics and drops better, but it's a lot of work to be done, and most people don't care..Happy new year to you too Luny^^
Yawgmoth
As for searching for minimum possible stats for each req, there's practically no use for that information even for someone trying to better understand the GW drop generation system (I have collected some that kind of data too but they weren't anywhere as useful in formulating any theories as other sets of data on way-off max drops).
Also they would really need a separate thread just because they'd create incredible amount of useless posts and a make this thread a complete mess. People would post items FAAAAR higher than the possible minimums as most don't realise how low the stats can actually be.
Hint: The worst stats for given req's are really MUCH worse than almost everyone thinks they are! In fact you can find weapons with same or even lower stats than best for zero req that will have a req as high as 6!
Charr in Presearing can drop as high as req8's and I think even req.9 (not 100% sure on this) and you can be sure they will be the absolute worst possible req8/9's.
It however gets more interesting with the highest req's - the lowest req.12s will be actually really high and lowest req.13s are really exceptionally hard to find - req13 almost doesn't appear outside of purples/golds and those are max or 1-off when req13 (except purple staves which just work differently)
Awesome staff there! Great shame you didn't screenshot it while still assigned to you as we won't get stats this high anytime soon or maybe never more at all.
Also they would really need a separate thread just because they'd create incredible amount of useless posts and a make this thread a complete mess. People would post items FAAAAR higher than the possible minimums as most don't realise how low the stats can actually be.
Hint: The worst stats for given req's are really MUCH worse than almost everyone thinks they are! In fact you can find weapons with same or even lower stats than best for zero req that will have a req as high as 6!
Charr in Presearing can drop as high as req8's and I think even req.9 (not 100% sure on this) and you can be sure they will be the absolute worst possible req8/9's.
It however gets more interesting with the highest req's - the lowest req.12s will be actually really high and lowest req.13s are really exceptionally hard to find - req13 almost doesn't appear outside of purples/golds and those are max or 1-off when req13 (except purple staves which just work differently)
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Originally Posted by Red Fireball
got a q7 18/10/11-20 fire staff today (in Prophecies) - sry for german screen, unfortunately had merched, when I realised, sry.
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Red Fireball
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
Awesome staff there! Great shame you didn't screenshot it while still assigned to you as we won't get stats this high anytime soon or maybe never more at all.
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also german tho, sry
and for presearing drops: yes, q9 is definitely possible there.
furthermore I got the theory, that for a certain req x the lowest DMG is maximum of x-6, means go 6 reqs down and check for max DMG there.
Don´t have any proof for this theory tho^^
novawhiz
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Originally Posted by Jumping Is Uselss
I was cleaning up my mules when I rediscovered my old magmas shield that I got in Hell's Precipice back in '06.
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The Mountain
Not much of an addition, but you can update the number from insc sources.
Yawgmoth
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Originally Posted by Red Fireball
Oh I did, cause I thought this was quite nice!
also german tho, sry and for presearing drops: yes, q9 is definitely possible there. furthermore I got the theory, that for a certain req x the lowest DMG is maximum of x-6, means go 6 reqs down and check for max DMG there. Don´t have any proof for this theory tho^^ |
And your theory of x-6 req is a pretty good approximation of what the lowest dmg ranges for given reqs are. It's not perfect but more accurate than x-5 or x-7 and so practically there won't be a better simple theory for that. Just have to add that for the req1-6 the minimum stats are the same or very close to the same.
Bright Star Shine
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Not much of an addition, but you can update the number from insc sources.
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Only difference, mine dropped in HM^^ Had to black out a lot of names though
Bright Star Shine
Extra, found this too, in DoA just now, it's an addition to the staff I posted earlier, only this one is max in the sense that a blue staff couldn't be higher.. Ironically it's the exact same skin^^
I know it isn't an addition to the list, but thought it was worth posting
I know it isn't an addition to the list, but thought it was worth posting
The Mountain
r4 staff 16/8/9-16 -- from Tyria (jungle)
+1 to the current HSR
+1 to the current HSR
fallenangel
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LicensedLuny
Ok, so a few hours ago I was in UW NM (inherent source area) with some friends, and a Grasping Darkness dropped me a 15-22 r8 Fiery Dragon Sword with no damage mod.
I noticed the r8 as I was picking it up and didn't get a screenshot of it on the ground, "assigned to" me.
I did however quickly swear about it in team chat and took a picture of my inventory right after I picked it up.
You have my word that I did not already have that sword around and brought it along just to stage the shot (although I realized when blacking out the IGNs in that screenshot that I should've also had my equipment pack open to show there was no second FDS lurking in there - sorry.)
So there's the inherent source area r8 15-22 post NF drop. Given that we already know r8 15-22 inscribable swords can drop and we suspect there's no difference in the max possible and were just waiting for a postNF pic of an inherent-area drop, I hope this is sufficient proof.
Here is a link to the full screenshot I took with names blacked out.
WARNING - that's a pretty big image file.
You can see in the chat log where the grasping dropped it, where I picked it up, and then where I was kicking myself for it. You can see in the party window that we have a Paragon and heroes on the team. You can see in my inventory there are also post NF items like lockpicks, merch stones, and a black moa chick. My skill bar also has several NF/EotN skills. So at least you can be sure I took the screenshot post NF.
And before anyone makes a comment about the bar I was running ... a) I already know I'm a noob, and b) after trying it, I don't like how it works in there at all.
EDIT - @Bright - but if I blacked it out you wouldn't see the NF and EotN skills. And it's a shame to waste any legit opportunity to debunk any mistaken rumors about me being "pro." Amazingly enough, some people on the internet are still under the impression I know what I'm doing!
EDIT - Feb. 12, 2012 - fixing thumb links to direct instead of photobucket album
I noticed the r8 as I was picking it up and didn't get a screenshot of it on the ground, "assigned to" me.
I did however quickly swear about it in team chat and took a picture of my inventory right after I picked it up.You have my word that I did not already have that sword around and brought it along just to stage the shot (although I realized when blacking out the IGNs in that screenshot that I should've also had my equipment pack open to show there was no second FDS lurking in there - sorry.)
So there's the inherent source area r8 15-22 post NF drop. Given that we already know r8 15-22 inscribable swords can drop and we suspect there's no difference in the max possible and were just waiting for a postNF pic of an inherent-area drop, I hope this is sufficient proof.
Here is a link to the full screenshot I took with names blacked out.
WARNING - that's a pretty big image file.You can see in the chat log where the grasping dropped it, where I picked it up, and then where I was kicking myself for it. You can see in the party window that we have a Paragon and heroes on the team. You can see in my inventory there are also post NF items like lockpicks, merch stones, and a black moa chick. My skill bar also has several NF/EotN skills. So at least you can be sure I took the screenshot post NF.
And before anyone makes a comment about the bar I was running ... a) I already know I'm a noob, and b) after trying it, I don't like how it works in there at all.
EDIT - @Bright - but if I blacked it out you wouldn't see the NF and EotN skills. And it's a shame to waste any legit opportunity to debunk any mistaken rumors about me being "pro." Amazingly enough, some people on the internet are still under the impression I know what I'm doing!
EDIT - Feb. 12, 2012 - fixing thumb links to direct instead of photobucket album
Bright Star Shine
Wow dude, that's pretty badass :P
If you ask me, most of the q8 max swords drop in the high-end areas.. (DoA got me one, and millions of 15-21 ones..) So if you're looking for q8 max dmg gold swords, I'd say Urgoz and the Deep are the place to be...
Oh and dude, that bar is indeed pretty awful xD You could've at least blacked it out xD
If you ask me, most of the q8 max swords drop in the high-end areas.. (DoA got me one, and millions of 15-21 ones..) So if you're looking for q8 max dmg gold swords, I'd say Urgoz and the Deep are the place to be...
Oh and dude, that bar is indeed pretty awful xD You could've at least blacked it out xD
chakra gorn
Here is one I found while farming this weeks trav item in Ettins Back in nm
LicensedLuny
Update log:
List updated up to and including post 291, page 15, Jan. 2, 2011.
List updated up to and including post 305, page 16, Jan. 7, 2011.
List updated up to and including post 305, page 16, Jan. 7, 2011.
- Req. 8 Sword:
- Inherent Sources: 15-21 (pic from Pleikki)
- Inherent Sources: 15-22 (pic from LicensedLuny)
- Req. 6 Axe:
- Inscribable Sources: 6-22 (pic from Masacru Ak)
- Inscribable Sources: 6-23 (pic from The Mountain)
- Req. 5 Hammer:
- Inscribable Sources: 15-26 (pic from LicensedLuny)
- Inscribable Sources: 16-28 (pic from fallenangel)
- Req. 4 Staff:
- Inherent Sources: 15/8/9-16 (pic from superraptors)
- Inherent Sources: 16/8/9-16 (pic from The Mountain)
The Mountain
Here's another one for ya.
fallenangel
Yo bro, here's more.
Intrinsic
Req4 Insc Axe
Reformed
Dropped in Rhea's Crater.
Bright Star Shine
r2 inscr axe, during random retarded build day 6-12 dropped for teammate, he got a screen he said though
LicensedLuny
List updated up to and including post 305, page 16, Jan. 7, 2011.
List updated up to and including post 312, page 16, Jan. 14, 2011.
List updated up to and including post 312, page 16, Jan. 14, 2011.
- Req. 6 Sword:
- Inscribable Sources: 13-18 (pic from TheGizzy)
- Inscribable Sources: 13-19 (pic from The Mountain)
- Req. 4 Axe:
- Inscribable Sources:
- Inscribable Sources: 5-14 (pic from Intrinsic)
- Req. 2 Axe:
- Inscribable Sources:
- Inscribable Sources: 6-12 (claim by Bright Star Shine)
- Req. 6 Spear:
- Inscribable Sources: 13-22 (pic from LicensedLuny)
- Inscribable Sources: 13-23 (pic from fallenangel)
Ling
Dropped for me in the secret snowman lair today
Bright Star Shine
Pleikki
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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
Yes, so close it can't get any closer
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Now if someone wud get like 11-22 10energy 18hsr one example
Oldish
Not sure if u guys are looking for that kind of stuff but heres one I dropped more than 3 years ago.
And purple magmas.
And purple magmas.
Bright Star Shine
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wouldnt be so sure! in *THEORY* it maybe cud be possible get 100% max r8
Now if someone wud get like 11-22 10energy 18hsr one example |
And @ Oldish, we already have those^^ But thanks anyway :P
And Pleikki, I watch EVERY SINGLE drop that I, or anyone else gets when doing DoA, the reason why I get so many q7/15 shields lol, noone watches their drops, and I'm all too happy to jew em after the run, but I've never seen a q8 11-22 staff, white, blue or purple.. i've seen many q8 11-21.. Just as I've seen shittons of q8 15-21 swords, and a couple q8 15-22 (once got a q8 15-22 FDS but it was uniscr, you should've heard me cursing -.-) And the amount of runs I do, plus the amount of drops that drop there, imo, something should've already popped up..
Elena Dragonfire
Ok, this shield dropped from Haiju Lagoon (inherent area) after NF.
Hope it helps
Hope it helps