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Originally Posted by Raven Wing
... thanks for reviving this thread, I think its interesting 
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You're welcome! (to you and everyone else I've heard that from!)
I think it's interesting, too! I'm very sorry for any loss of interest or participation due to the OP being out of date. I was away from GW for months, and if I'm not playing GW regularly then I lose track of Guru, too. No offense intended.
The whole reason I have the OP of this thread is that I was willing and able to update it when Ari (who first posted it) was not. The mods around here have magic-ninja-hax tricks they can do with threads and posts which can result in the original post changing owner. I first updated the list in the OP as a reply post to this thread. With Ari's permission, one of the mods was able to merge my reply post and the OP to make it look like it does now and leave me as owner instead of Ari (which lets me edit it.)
So,
in the event I go missing again and someone else wants to take over updating and knows enough bbCode (or can figure it out from editing an existing list)
then SPEAK UP!
Red Fireball and I were chatting in game the other day, and he told me he'd be interested to help keep it updated if I wasn't going to anymore. So that's one candidate. For the time being, I expect to be able to work on it. If I'm not able to in the future then it's fine with me if someone else wants to.
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Since I'm at it, I'll leave notes here about my update process in case anyone ever wants it.
If you take over the OP, then you get final say on process and format. I'm leaving this here in case a new OP owner wants to keep it the way I have it now. I like the list as easy to check quickly when I'm going through drops in game as possible; that's why I set it up with so much formatting.
If you're working on a new version and want to keep some or all of the existing OP content and format, start a reply quoting the OP (the QUOTE button in the lower right corner of the post.) Remove the [QUOTE=LicensedLuny;5162589] bit at the very beginning and the [/QUOTE] from the very end. Now you have a copy of the OP with all existing text and formatting code to work from.
Important Note - copying a link
(in most Windows browsers, right click the link and choose something like "Copy link" from the menu) to any post from the "#<post number>" link at the upper right corner gives you this kind of format URL.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5592349&postcount=385
That type of link directs to a page showing ONLY that particular post. I find pages that show the normal whole thread and simply have it auto-scroll to the post in question are much easier as a reader/browser. So to get such a link, simply change the "showpost" part of the copied URL to "showthread" instead, like so ...
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5592349&postcount=385
I try to keep all the links to specific posts in the OP in the second style. It's pretty easy when editing. When you think you're all done with the OP update, simply search for the string
showpost and change any you see to
showthread instead before you save the changes.
So, my steps ...
- Open two browser windows with the original post (one for reference and one for editing) and another browser window to the most recent update reply (where the change log from last time lives.) In one of the two OP windows, go into advanced edit mode on that post.
- Post a reply as a placeholder for the change log.
- Change the first line to have the URL of the placeholder you just posted, the post and page numbers, and the current date. It's the first line at the top and looks like this ...
[CENTER][I]List updated up to and including [url="http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5586884&postcount=383"]post 383, page 20, Oct. 26, 2011.[/url][/I]
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- Read any replies since the last update. Check any item posted in a new reply against the record in the existing OP. Any new records (or pictures to replace claims) get updated in the OP.
- Updating an entry in the OP, you'll see lines like this ...
[*]Inherent Sources: [b]15-22[/b] [i]([url="http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5351784&postcount=302"]pic from LicensedLuny[/url])[/i]
Between the [b][/b] tags is the basic damage, etc. of the item. You change that as needed. Next change the URL in the quotes in the [url="..."]pic from user[/url] to the URL of the post with the new record (and remember to switch showpost to showthread as mentioned above.) Finally change the username to the new record's poster.
- Once the OP is updated, it's time to put the change log in the reply you posted as a place holder. There's an edit history accessible from your post by the URL near the bottom left corner of your post that looks something like this.
Last edited by LicensedLuny; Oct 26, 2011 at 03:13 AM.. Reason: updates, as needed ...
That "Last edited by" will be a link if it's your own post (or you have mod rights.) Click it. Now compare the new version you just finished to the last version. The differences will be highlighted.
- I build the change log by pasting lines from that version comparison report into the placeholder post I left at the beginning of this process. I have to add or adjust a few [list][/list] and [*] tags to make it look the way it does in my versions. For the most part, it's simply copy/pasting though.
Be careful with cases where there's more than one record. Staffs are the most common example, but sometimes martial weapons might have one record for highest lowend damage and another record for highest maxend damage in their range.
An example of what I mean shows up in r7 scythes. There's a 10-35 and a 9-37. For such cases, list all the records with at least one stat maxed in a sub-list. If the sub-list isn't already in place in the OP list, then you can build one by adding a new set of [list][/list] tags around the entries that share the record in question.
vB isn't case-sensitive about the tags, so [list][/list] works the same as [LIST][/LIST] if you'd rather type the formatting tags by hand.
I swear it's nowhere near as complicated to update as it might seem at first. Once you get the hang of it/practice a little, it's really easy!