i think thats appauling tbh.
so he broke the rules, he should be banned, but not in the middle of a MAT final.
its like, ok, we're gonna punish you AND your guildies.
aint right, they just love to piss people off lately.
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The question is: How serious was the violation that it warranted a ban? Did an entire team sporting the names like Hitler, Charles Manson, Bundy, Al Quaeda, etc..troll people left & right, or something to that degree? Or did they have a vulgar Guild Name like Inside Gaile Grey's Va... [again]? Because things like that ARE show-stoppers. But none of this was the case, then I'm raising the BS flag on it!
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I was in a GvG match way back in 2005, (when my guild did that sort of thing), and some of our opponents' names were really, really sick and disgusting. One of those names I'll never forget, it was so bad. And the language that they used was perfectly vile. They sucked at GvG and we whipped 'em in under 5 minutes, but it would have been nice if Dhuum was around to do his thing. We reported them the old fashioned way and they were never heard from again. The moral of the story: If you don't want to get your account banned, DON'T VIOLATE THE EULA. |
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Thats almost saying a bank robber who is in actuallity a big time football player playing in a final asking "hey can you arrest me after this match I dont want to be embaressed when xx amount of people are watching me".
You break with the rules you pay the consquences, not whenever its convenient for the perpetrator, simples. Pol |
The main problem with the ban is that it decided the game. In any kind of sport, referees are there to guide the progress of the match, not to determine it, which is why star players are usually less prone to being called for fouls or ejected. This situation proved the exact opposite.
Also, any usage the match may have had as some kind of example is invalidated by it being taken off observer.
Also, any usage the match may have had as some kind of example is invalidated by it being taken off observer.
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i think thats appauling tbh.
so he broke the rules, he should be banned, but not in the middle of a MAT final. its like, ok, we're gonna punish you AND your guildies. aint right, they just love to piss people off lately. |
I personally think nobody should be banned in a PvP match at all.
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Penalize the player, don't penalize the team. Ban him before or after the match so they can either get a replacement or it doesn't matter. Don't punish his guild by taking away their snare ele in the middle of the mAT final.
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That is their own fault for letting someone like that on their team. Thus, they have to pay the consequences for allowing that player to break the rules which they all agreed upon. That is completely fair and just.
That's like saying I can break all the rules I want during the game, even if it does give me an advantage over everyone. But you are not allowed to ban me till the game is over cause it is unfair to my team that I can't continue to keep breaking the rules.
You break the rules, you pay the price. Simple as that. There is no "I'm special cause I'm in a tournament so I can do whatever I want and they are not allowed to penalize me till after it is all over".
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The main problem with the ban is that it decided the game. In any kind of sport, referees are there to guide the progress of the match, not to determine it, which is why star players are usually less prone to being called for fouls or ejected. This situation proved the exact opposite.
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Everyone on that team was a willing participant to that player. They all agreed upon the same rules as he did, and if they didn't speak up or say anything, then they were condoning what that player was doing as a team.
That is their own fault for letting someone like that on their team. Thus, they have to pay the consequences for allowing that player to break the rules which they all agreed upon. That is completely fair and just. That's like saying I can break all the rules I want during the game, even if it does give me an advantage over everyone. But you are not allowed to ban me till the game is over cause it is unfair to my team that I can't continue to keep breaking the rules. You break the rules, you pay the price. Simple as that. There is no "I'm special cause I'm in a tournament so I can do whatever I want and they are not allowed to penalize me till after it is all over". |
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in Soccer you have to play with 10 men not 11 if someone is red carded and sent off. this is exactly the same thing. heck, anet even named the boss "Enadiz"(Zidane backwards) after a French player who was sent off for "Headbutting"(yes, the skill Headbutt is named after this incident) a player on the other team during the World Cup Final no less! The French then had to play with 10 men vs. 11 and they lost. I think it's safe to say that if it can happen in the World Cup which happens to be a notch or two up the importance ladder from a GW MaT, then the same thing can happen and should in GW.
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It's as if the severity of the offense doesn't matter at all. You conveniently forgot to note that Zidane was provoked into headbutting Materazzi when the latter insulted the former's sister - which is very close to the offense that happened today.
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Comparing a World Cup final to a MaT final is sort of ludicrous though.
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In actuality Zidane later stated that he tottaly regreted letting Materazzi get to him and felt a great deal of guilt of letting his team mates down. If the player in the MaT final had any sort of moral compass he would feel the same way. He let his teamates and let himself down, he paid the price and so did his team in the end, I feel sorry for his team more then anything.
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If you think the comparison is ludicrous, feel free to point out why and/or provide a better one.
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I would expect Wut to feel quite a bit of regret for ruining his guild's Saturday, too. That's not the point though.
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However a World Cup final for the winning team is not just a win for there team as you know its for there nation its once in a lifetime opportunity, not to mention the effect it has on the nation that wins it, theres a whole universe of a difference from this point and onwards.
After all in the grand scheme of things a MaT final is just a game, sure the players take it seriously and if there competitive why shouldent they? The bottom line is its not a world changer unlike when a team wins the World Cup final for themselves and for there nation.
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I would expect Wut to feel quite a bit of regret for ruining his guild's Saturday, too. That's not the point though.
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World cup final country A vs. country B, during the match an official from country A interrupts the match claiming that country B's players are cheating by taking banned drugs. Referee stops the match, gets everyone in country B to take a drug test, finds the claim invalid and resumes the match.
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Of course nobody is saying the player who broke the rules shouldn't be banned, they're saying that the ban can wait until after the game finishes. Same like drug tests. Nobody pulls a player off the pitch during a game to do a drug test, jeez.

