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Xenomortis

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18 Oct 2010 at 22:37 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by samberum

Our final category proves to be another big positive—50.7% of people say that they “love it,” while 14.4% are between that and “OK,” which comes in at 23.1%. Only 5.7% “hate it like burning,” while the final 6.1% were seemingly indifferent.

I have to ask; was this result really surprising?
And do you honestly think that just because a majority want something you should use that as your justification for giving it to them, particularly when PvEers are concerned. I'm talking more generally here, not just about the issue at hand, but you've set a rather disconcerting precedent here I think.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

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Holland

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18 Oct 2010 at 22:38 - 42

a dream come true
i cant wait... i can (barely) wait
i'd do zaishen quests and wanteds some more
also i'd like to try rotscale on HM and oola's lab, both NM and HM

then vq proph (and continue my explore there) and after that i'll have to make more plans, i think cantha vbq for kurzick faction, as i want an elite kurz armor for my mesmer (with the pink dyes

)

after i heard this ingame, i was so happy, i couldnt breathe for a moment
also, after i did fow with Ling (you know him as runner here), i saw it wasnt that hard with 2 discord teams (2 of us and 6 heroes) and now thx to him, i'd like to practice there
first kill some enemies, then do the quests

Anet, thx a huge lot, now if i can get my paysafecard to work i buy another char slot, and make another char which can enjoy 7 heroes

i hope nothing will be in the way to do this, and nice to see everything is going much better than certain times (not gonna recall them)

once its here, i'll enjoy this game so much, that i'll forget i got a wii with games on it

freedom + GW, thats a lot of love for 1 game
thanks again

EDIT:
oh and 5.7% dont like it? i think those are leaving gw after they filled their HoM and got highest titles like GWAMM and done 50/50 on the calculator

vamp08

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

PA, USA

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18 Oct 2010 at 22:40 - 43

The entire Prophecies & Factions campaign(s); as I have yet to do either on my Dervish.

Then hopefully Sorrow's and DoA. God this is gonna rock!

stouda01

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Czech Republic-Prague

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18 Oct 2010 at 22:43 - 44

i knew this John Stumme guy would turn out to be great replace for Linsay Murdock, thumbs up John!

ChrisCo

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

[ToR]

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18 Oct 2010 at 22:43 - 45

YES YES YES !!!!! Sooooooo happy now =D

First thing is for sure FoW

... poor henchies are never gonna be used again, oh well im over it.

Asyntyche

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UK

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18 Oct 2010 at 22:45 - 46

Embark Beach sounds great, a much better way of organizing PUGs and allowing those who want to play with others a good chance of finding a group.

As for me, I play rarely and at odd times, so being able to use 7 heroes will be great for finally getting to try out the EotN dungeons and WiK quests

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

18 Oct 2010 at 22:46 - 47

For those bitter folks claiming that full hero parties are easy mode, keep in mind heroes are no replacement for real players, they are replacements for henchmen. A hero is no match for a real player.

Bad players will still continue to be bad, it just allows greater options for those who want to customize their party, and more importantly not be stuck with below level henchmen.

vader

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

P/W

18 Oct 2010 at 22:50 - 48

The big question is ... when is this update coming?

eekzor

Frost Gate Guardian

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Mo/E

18 Oct 2010 at 22:52 - 49

*thumbs up*

Better late than never, but sooner wouldn't hurt.

MrKGado

Frost Gate Guardian

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USA

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18 Oct 2010 at 22:54 - 50

My guess is not until the second part of WiK is released when they introduce the beginnings of the Canthan chapter.
But who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and they have been working on it for a little while now.

**crosses fingers**

mrmango

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Southern California

Charter Vanguard [CV]

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18 Oct 2010 at 22:55 - 51

I need the Urgoz statue so it'll make that slightly easier to do.

HawkofStorms

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18 Oct 2010 at 23:01 - 52

Would you like to have 50 ectos for free?

Yes/No

That's about how I interpreted this question. Game balance shouldn't be decided by the whims of the masses. Hell, "we" wanted shadow form farming and speed runs. Don't listen to us A.net. We are idiots.

Skyy High

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Join Date: May 2006

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18 Oct 2010 at 23:01 - 53

Honestly, I'm more excited about Embark Beach than the 7 hero parties....but I'm still very excited about that. As for specific mission that I'll do with 7 heroes, well, there's always stuff like BLA and Eternal Grove. The rest of my excitement comes from just being able to screw around with an entire team build.

Blog's still not working though.

As for "don't listen to the masses"...feh. This isn't a "let's make everyone rich" update that'll severely destabilize the economy, not even close (not even compared to Ursanway or SF, let alone 50 free ectos). Good players are already doing basically everything with H/H, and bad players still won't be able to succeed. All I see here is giving us something that will increase the lifetime and enjoyment of the game more than any other "simple" (read: non-content) update could hope to. As such, it's a smart idea at this time, with GW2 around the corner and massive numbers of old and new players flooding the game.

a-kyle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

A/R

18 Oct 2010 at 23:02 - 54

this is so dumb we should not get up to 7 heros. it should go down to two

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

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18 Oct 2010 at 23:03 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowerpoke

For those bitter folks claiming that full hero parties are easy mode, keep in mind heroes are no replacement for real players, they are replacements for henchmen. A hero is no match for a real player.

Bad players will still continue to be bad, it just allows greater options for those who want to customize their party, and more importantly not be stuck with below level henchmen.

i so agree. if people hate the more heros then dont use them. lord knows i hate mox and the sin heros so i dont use them. this will allow me to do stuff i always wanted to do without having to wait for help. but people will still have to have help with elite areas and other things. as the poster said,bad players will still be bad. and lazy people will still hire runners.

Deviant Angel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

On a boat!

Homeless.

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18 Oct 2010 at 23:11 - 56

Just because a lot of people want something, it doesn't make it a good idea.

So which do you guys think we will get first? A ton of nerfs because people figured out how to clear elite areas in 30 mins with a full hero group or the dervish update?

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

18 Oct 2010 at 23:12 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Would you like to have 50 ectos for free?

Yes/No

That's about how I interpreted this question. Game balance shouldn't be decided by the whims of the masses. Hell, "we" wanted shadow form farming and speed runs. Don't listen to us A.net. We are idiots.

Have to say I agree with this post. I don't see how it can really make things worse at this point however. Players who prefer the AI aren't going to group either way unless the content demands it and those who don't most likely still will.

Acumen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2009

The Undead Ravens

18 Oct 2010 at 23:16 - 58

I can record Kanaxai's, Mallyx's, Urgoz's, etc armor ratings! Better start buying major vigors now...4 more for each character.

Black Metal

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Join Date: Jan 2009

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18 Oct 2010 at 23:24 - 59

FoW can be completed with 2 accts easy enough. But I'm excited to try UW, and finally clear out this 'Waiting Game' quest.

DoA should be fun but hopefully there will be some sort of party formation option.

Star_Jewel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2010

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18 Oct 2010 at 23:24 - 60

Embark Beach seems like the perfect solution to the inevitable "OMG, 7 heroes killed PUGs!" complaints.

I'm actually more excited about that than the 7 heroes, which really won't alter my gameplay too much, other than letting me finally figure out the Underworld for myself.

Sirius Bsns

Banned

Join Date: May 2010

PonG

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18 Oct 2010 at 23:25 - 61

Pretty much anything that previous would be near impossible with henchies in the mix and that needed actual real players to do. It's for the better because otherwise players would have to find real people to play certain missions, and with so much elitism going around, people hardly want to play together anymore despite the game nearing it death as it gets even older and approaches GW2. The game's only hope is to have full on hero accessibility.

Mireles

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2009

W/Me

18 Oct 2010 at 23:26 - 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

Eh..

Guess this had to be done due to GW2 being around the corner. Still, playing with people is far more entertaining.

This is true... but we already hindered that quality by adding heroes in the first place.. thus making people less competent than you are obsolete... i guess we might as well go all the way.

Karate Jesus

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18 Oct 2010 at 23:27 - 63

Holy shit, Anet is listening to us.

Of course, we've yet to see John add even a single thing to this game as head developer, so I'm going to camp out in the "seeing is believing" area for right now.

I have no reason to doubt him (and I'm not saying I do), but we really haven't been given a reason to trust him yet either.

EDIT: Also, did anyone screencap/c+p the blog before it went down? I didn't see it and I'm assuming it had more than 1 question on it.

hitsuji182

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18 Oct 2010 at 23:31 - 64

Quote:

EDIT: Also, did anyone screencap/c+p the blog before it went down? I didn't see it and I'm assuming it had more than 1 question on it.

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/...5&postcount=26

Shadowphoenix

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18 Oct 2010 at 23:32 - 65

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deviant Angel

Just because a lot of people want something, it doesn't make it a good idea.

So which do you guys think we will get first? A ton of nerfs because people figured out how to clear elite areas in 30 mins with a full hero group or the dervish update?

*sigh* OK I will put my bet and it will be both xD

Eragon Zarroc

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Madness Incarnate

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18 Oct 2010 at 23:34 - 66

craziness!!! embark beach sounds sweet

MArcSinus

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18 Oct 2010 at 23:34 - 67

Discord/Sabway combined with spiritway, an ER prot and a Panic mesmer.. sounds like auto win to me.

I love this news, can't wait for the update.

Macktar Wang

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

18 Oct 2010 at 23:36 - 68

Since no one is active in my guild or my friends list anymore, running with 7 heroes makes me pretty happy. I'll wait until they actually implement it before I get too excited though. It will definitely help me get my hard mode titles with a lot less stress.

Inde

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18 Oct 2010 at 23:43 - 69

We've put the full text in the OP until the blog can come back up again.

Karate Jesus

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18 Oct 2010 at 23:48 - 70

Woah, let me get this straight.

He's promising...

New Canthan Content
GvG changes/better PvP rewards (and maybe better PvE rewards? Didn't seem him expressly say that)
Halloween "surprises"
Embark Beach (awesome idea after the HoM rewards got announced)
Full Hero Parties plus the new hero that he's already talked about
AND new Mad King jokes?

This guy has some serious cojones. Let's hope he's got the fortitude to pull it off.

EDIT: AND the Dervish skill update.

Xenomortis

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18 Oct 2010 at 23:49 - 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

AND new Mad King jokes?

This is definitely the most important. Please prioritise properly.

NuclearSlug

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18 Oct 2010 at 23:52 - 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDog91

I plan on doing Underworld.
But only if my heros have at least 50 stones each.

Classic!

12 chars

Sytherek

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

Florida, USA

R/E

18 Oct 2010 at 23:56 - 73

It bugs the living crap out of me when people say that full hero groups are an automatic "win" button.

Eight humans with 3 PvE skills each are VASTLY superior to a full hero party. I know, because I run the Zaishen missions/bonuses with PUG humans AND H/H, depending on character and the availability of humans. When the humans are competent (which is often), they are ALWAYS faster and more effective than H/Hing it. Given a choice, I'll always go with humans.

The problem is, the population DOESN'T GIVE ME the choice of running with people on my schedule. So giving me 7 heroes is fantastic, because it lets me play the game when I want to, how I want to. What's wrong with that?

Why does anyone CARE if the game suddenly gets simpler for some folk? Why is it a "problem" if people copy PvX builds?

I don't use PvX; it's much more fun to try out my own builds, experimenting. Give me seven heroes, and I'll have a great time trying out weird group dynamics.

As it is, decision made, and it was a good one. No one is stopping you from doing things the "hard" way; no one is telling anyone to stop grouping with people. And having full hero parties will not stop me from PuGging.

Del

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19 Oct 2010 at 00:01 - 74

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doomfodder

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19 Oct 2010 at 00:03 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

For Embark Beach, this is probably going to be big. Like, big big. Since the potential audience is pretty much anyone who wants to play the game at all, I see this as pulling in a huge crowd from traders, and potentially overthrowing Spamadan as the mecca of markets. Knowing where everyone is for doing missions, vanquishing, and even some quests is extremely useful. It's almost like a global Party Search, but not quite. This solution is much simpler in some senses.

Couldn't possibly AGREE more! PLEASE disable trade chat in Embark Reach B4 it's released.

ANY other town should be used for trades to pre-empt the inevitable SPAM that requires everyone to turn off trade chat when they enter the town...

I've been pleading for something like Embark Reach since HM 1st came out. TYVM ANET!!!

Lord Dagon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2009

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The Imperial Guards of Istan[TIGE]

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19 Oct 2010 at 00:05 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

Woah, let me get this straight.

He's promising...

New Canthan Content
GvG changes/better PvP rewards (and maybe better PvE rewards? Didn't seem him expressly say that)
Halloween "surprises"
Embark Beach (awesome idea after the HoM rewards got announced)
Full Hero Parties plus the new hero that he's already talked about
AND new Mad King jokes?

This guys has some serious cojones. Let's hope he's got the fortitude to pull it off.

preety much. lets hope he doesnt screw up or ppl are going to get REALLY pissed. just saying ill be one of the ppl throwing moltovs at his house xD.

but yea lets hope he gets this done . Embarkment beach sounds awsome, and i cant wait to get 7 heros so i can finaly VQ NF xD.

Mireles

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2009

W/Me

19 Oct 2010 at 00:08 - 77

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sytherek

Eight humans with 3 PvE skills each are VASTLY superior to a full hero party.

That all depends on what 8 humans you are talking about.

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

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19 Oct 2010 at 00:12 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

Woah, let me get this straight.

He's promising...

New Canthan Content
GvG changes/better PvP rewards (and maybe better PvE rewards? Didn't seem him expressly say that)
Halloween "surprises"
Embark Beach (awesome idea after the HoM rewards got announced)
Full Hero Parties plus the new hero that he's already talked about
AND new Mad King jokes?

This guy has some serious cojones. Let's hope he's got the fortitude to pull it off.

And a Dervish Skill update. I'm kind of surprised. I'm really looking forward to all of the above. That is; if it happens.

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

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19 Oct 2010 at 00:14 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobi Madera

preety much. lets hope he doesnt screw up or ppl are going to get REALLY pissed. just saying ill be one of the ppl throwing moltovs at his house xD.

but yea lets hope he gets this done . Embarkment beach sounds awsome, and i cant wait to get 7 heros so i can finaly VQ NF xD.

You have to admit, though, even if he doesn't get this done he's still got some huge huevos rancheros just for talking about all of it.

I mean, Linsey made some big posts about upcoming changes (and some didn't go so well), but I don't think she ever made an announcement this jam packed with such a tight schedule on it. I mean, a lot of this he's said will be here around Halloween, and that's a pretty bold statement considering that he's never added anything to the game as the team lead.

Honestly, whether he does this stuff now or not, this guy is still my hero. He has the chance to completely revitalize the game or cause a shitstorm the likes of which have never been seen in GW.

I can picture him kicking back with a cigar in his office watching his computer screen in either scenario, and for me, that's just gold.

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

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19 Oct 2010 at 00:24 - 80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Star_Jewel

Embark Beach seems like the perfect solution to the inevitable "OMG, 7 heroes killed PUGs!" complaints.

How is making every outpost in the entire game obsolete a perfect solution? And what problem is this guy attempting to solve anyway?